Ok, I finally got it...lol... What happened was, I had linked the Coats Archive in a spot that said website and then left a place for a link...now recall we've been using FTDNA since we started this group a few years back and they have changed their website at least a couple of times on how you access info...what was suppose to go there was the link to the FTDNA public page...no wonder I couldn't find a link to it on any of those pages and couldn't figure out where to access it .... not to mention the number of emails I've gotten over time wanting to know how to get to it...not realizing the web site link FTDNA wanted to go there was the FTDNA public pages.... Anyway....I was able to correct the link they put there and had added me back as an administrator before they changed the password...so you may still see me as the admin but I have emailed them and asked them to take me off as an admin ...so you should see John's name back up there soon, I think... So any questions on the FTDNA site needs to go to him.... Char -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Visit the Family History Store at LuLu: http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Coats Archive http://www.coatsarchive.us