We have a new kit number up 134081 at http://www.ancestrees.com/dna/family.html! It looks somewhat similar to Robert Coates' group but with enough differences to not be a close match. Welcome new member! Further information on this line will be coming. If anyone knows more info on that kit's lineage, it would be most appreciated by the participant I'm sure. You can write me to have it forwarded to them. Thanks. I hope some of you can partake of the sale they are having for the holidays to increase your DNA points. I know I'd sure appreciate that in Marm's group! Linda Coate, Admin