Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an altogether separate group. When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when I find them.