John, I used to think my John Coats of Miami Co., OH., who married Martha (Patsey) Rudy was a Junior to a John Coats Senior, and I still think he may have been a Jr., however the complete theory was that John Sr married a Susan Brock supposed daughter of Elias and Ann (Hollingsworth) Brock and that his father was Gentleman John Coats. I gave up on this theory due to a lack of evidence that Gentleman John ever had a John that migrated to the Miami Valley of OH. Also gave up the idea that a Susan Brock ever existed. I have not seen a family group record of a Susan being a daughter of Elias and Ann with supporting evidence other than this "theory". With that said, is it possible this DNA study is reviving this theory of my Coats line once again? What exactly is the story of this John who was a son of Gentleman John? Can someone help me out here? I wish my Coats line could be tested but we have not been able to locate a male Coats of this line that is willing to do so as of yet. Linda knows my story well. Steve Pearson ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Coats" <jwcoats@htc.net> To: <Coates-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: [COATES] Johns > Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest > posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was > probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got > from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is > separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke > Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my > James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an > altogether separate group. > > When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map > splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the > Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian > Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been > 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My > guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or > Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for > the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when > I find them. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Steve, What can you tell us about John Coats, Sr.? Thanks, Linda Coate On 9/3/2009 7:55 PM, Steve Pearson wrote: > John, > > I used to think my John Coats of Miami Co., OH., who married Martha (Patsey) > Rudy was a Junior to a John Coats Senior, and I still think he may have been > a Jr., however the complete theory was that John Sr married a Susan Brock > supposed daughter of Elias and Ann (Hollingsworth) Brock and that his father > was Gentleman John Coats. I gave up on this theory due to a lack of > evidence that Gentleman John ever had a John that migrated to the Miami > Valley of OH. Also gave up the idea that a Susan Brock ever existed. I have > not seen a family group record of a Susan being a daughter of Elias and Ann > with supporting evidence other than this "theory". With that said, is it > possible this DNA study is reviving this theory of my Coats line once again? > What exactly is the story of this John who was a son of Gentleman John? Can > someone help me out here? I wish my Coats line could be tested but we have > not been able to locate a male Coats of this line that is willing to do so > as of yet. Linda knows my story well. > > Steve Pearson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Coats"<jwcoats@htc.net> > To:<Coates-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:08 AM > Subject: [COATES] Johns > > > >> Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest >> posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was >> probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got >> from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is >> separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke >> Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my >> James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an >> altogether separate group. >> >> When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map >> splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the >> Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian >> Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been >> 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My >> guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or >> Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for >> the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when >> I find them. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.75/2341 - Release Date: 09/02/09 05:50:00 > >

John Coats wrote: Steve; John Henry told me you were having trouble. Linda sent me the story of John Coats Sr., saying he was the son of John Gent. She has the court records from the divorce proceedings. Looks like his son was Samuel. I think the DNA tests have cleared up a lot of misconception about the Coats line. I believe John Gent and Marmaduke were cousins, and probably were the Quakers. I believe our line is a totally different line, and may have been in NC instead of SC. Who know where they came from before that. If you could get someone to test, at least you could separate or connect with one of these. Good Luck, John > John, > > I used to think my John Coats of Miami Co., OH., who married Martha (Patsey) > Rudy was a Junior to a John Coats Senior, and I still think he may have been > a Jr., however the complete theory was that John Sr married a Susan Brock > supposed daughter of Elias and Ann (Hollingsworth) Brock and that his father > was Gentleman John Coats. I gave up on this theory due to a lack of > evidence that Gentleman John ever had a John that migrated to the Miami > Valley of OH. Also gave up the idea that a Susan Brock ever existed. I have > not seen a family group record of a Susan being a daughter of Elias and Ann > with supporting evidence other than this "theory". With that said, is it > possible this DNA study is reviving this theory of my Coats line once again? > What exactly is the story of this John who was a son of Gentleman John? Can > someone help me out here? I wish my Coats line could be tested but we have > not been able to locate a male Coats of this line that is willing to do so > as of yet. Linda knows my story well. > > Steve Pearson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Coats" <jwcoats@htc.net> > To: <Coates-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:08 AM > Subject: [COATES] Johns > > > >> Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest >> posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was >> probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got >> from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is >> separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke >> Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my >> James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an >> altogether separate group. >> >> When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map >> splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the >> Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian >> Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been >> 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My >> guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or >> Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for >> the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when >> I find them. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >