We have an updated version of the Coates DNA page up with all our latest results at http://www.ancestrees.com/dna/family.html. Their are quite a few improvements in the Marmaduke group, plus we have 2 more kits that have been ordered. If anyone in the group has verified an older ancestor than is listed, I can get that corrected fro you. Please let me know. If we keep up on that including sources for your new proof, it will significantly help us find our common ancestors in our cousin groups. Linda Coate