Ok, folks...this looks promising...the only William Coats in the Charleston area that this could possibly fit is the William Coats wife Mary, I think her father was a Daniel Green...recall we have a James Green Coats in Rev Will's line as well.... I've not checked any of this out yet...and 1788 seems a bit early for a marriage date...but I don't know anything about the William Coats and Mary, as I recall there was no will for a William and Mary in SC other than the William Coats and Mary on the Bush River...boy, does that put us back to square one or what... But I think Orangeburg was the county where the Polk Swamp was and seems to me that's where their land was, also seems there was either a James or John in that county as well... So will see what I can find... Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: Janet Burks <[email protected]> To: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> Subject: John Baker of Wilson Co, TN Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:33:43 -0600 Char, This is our theory so far. We hope this will help and hopefully lead you to more proof. We searched for any John Baker estate that was from $1,000-$2,000 in TN. Each of Nancy's heirs got $17.50 x say 14 children or heirs you have between $175 and $245 for Nancy's part of an estate that she received. If there were more heirs you can see the estate would be bigger than $245.00 at the least. Nancy is probably the daughter of John BAKER who died about 1844 in Wilson County, Tennessee. There are two Wilson County estates, the first John Baker died about 1819, his estate being worth less than $200 could not be the right man. The other John BAKER of Wilson County, Tennessee died about 1844, his administrator being William WRIGHT. The initial settlement of this estate in 1846 contained a balance of only $17.50 in the administrator's hands, with his services estimated at $100 not yet paid. Not included in the account at that time, were 5 Negroes whose value was estimated at about $2000. After their sale, and payment of other debts, there remained $1600 for distribution to heirs, which were not named. No further account or distribution of this estate was found. On 18 June 1850 Nancy BAKER's heirs received from $175-$245 each from the estate of John BAKER "of Tennessee." This timing fits when Nancy's heirs received the funds.This John BAKER estate was the only Tennessee John BAKER estate found that was of sufficient value (other than the John of Montgomery County whose heirs were identified in his will). This John BAKER was a Revolutionary War pensioner, stating he had been born in 1747 in Stafford County, Virginia, being age 96 when he applied on 20 April 1843 from Wilson County. From his application, about 18 months after the war he moved to South Carolina, about 60-70 miles from Charleston for about 3 years that would place him in South Carolina about 1785-1788. The end of that period (1788) would be about when Nancy BAKER was to have married William COATS. William COATS was from South Carolina. Get back with me when you can. Thanks so much, Janet At 11:07 PM 1/15/2005, you wrote: >Say, I guess there are a few Bakers there...:) > >Looks like there are two John Baker's one died early 1800s....the other >still living around 1830 or so...the John Baker who shows up in Nancy's >probate case in MO would have died around 1849, I'm guessing that since his >estate hadn't been distributed before her death, he must have died about >the same time she did... > >It appears you didn't find a will for a John Baker there in 1849 or there >abouts? > >This will surely drive me nuts!! > >Char > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Janet Burks <[email protected]> >To: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: Deeds-on Hickman Creek etc. >Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:54:11 -0600 > >Dear Char, > I am so sorry have not gotten back with you. Please forgive me. >Christmas was hectic. This was the first day I had to take down the >Christmas tree and decorations. My father in law has been in the >hospital. We didn't work much over Christmas on these TN Baker records. >I have a few more records for you and will try to send them this week. By >the looks of it we believe your Nancy's father is John and not Sylvester. >Trouble is there is more than one John. > > The HUMPHREY BAKER in Rutherford Co. is probably our Humphrey the son of >Rev.Robert Baker. We just proved him. He's in Williamson Co,TN as wel. >Hope this helps. >Janet This is what I've gleamed from the few Rutherford Co,Tn records >I've read: > >RUTHERFORD CO, TN > >1820 Rutherford Co, TN >p 93 Nathan Baker 021201-0200105 >p 78 Joshua Baker 320001-1101003 >p 92 John Baker 010301-0201104 >p 100 Jacob Baker 000100-1010 > >DPL >Deed index (film here is very dim and hard to read) >1804-1840 >Grantee John Baker - W.A. Sublett J p 213 > Nathan - Elizabeth J Fuller L p 208 >Daniel - James Sanders L p 429 >1820 Grantor: HUMPHREY BAKER - Daniel Winsell Bk O p 383 >Grantee John Baker - Thomas Sheete died Bk O p 1 >1826 Grantor JohnBaker -George Smith Q p 355 > John Baker - Charles Ballentine R p 324 >1830 John Baker - A M Johnson Bk S p 256 >1832 Grantee German Baker - Wm H. Bowman T p 181 >1838 Grantor Norman Baker & wf - Wm Caldwell X p 218 >Court of Pleas >Vol A 1804-1807 none >Vol B 1807-1808 >p 39 1807 July 6 John Hall & Martha Baker exec & executrix of last Will of >WILLIAM BAKER decd proven by witness >ROBERT BAKER >p 81 1807 Oct 6 Martha Baker exec of LWT of JOHN BAKER returned court >inventory est of JOHN BAKER decd >Vol C. 1808-1810 >Court case 4 oct 1808 due to demise of David Afflect vs CONRAD Baker - >plantiff atttory JOhn Ried not to procute further >Vol 1811-1812 >p 163 1811July 2 court Wm Edward vs JohnBaker plaintiff leave is granted >him to obtain commission to take deposition of RANEY BROWN in the State of >KENTUCKY by given thirty days notice. >p 186 1811 Oct 8 court Wm Edwards vs Benjamin & John Baker mot8ion of >defendants by their council leave is granted to amend original writ by >striking out the name Benjamin Baker on terms the plaintiff paying cost >accruing from the services of the write on sd Benjamin. >p 210 1811 OCt 9 Thomas STONE to George R Nash 1 lot of land town of >Jefferson. Deed-James Daughty & Eliza Daughety to Charles KAVANAUGH, John >BAKER John Winn, Wm T Leveatt, John Hoover, Joseph Burris for 1 acre >proven by Peter Winn witness >p 222 1812 Jan 6, Deed James and Eliz Daughaty to Charles Kavanaugh, >JOSHUA Baker, JOhn Winn, Wm Thweatt, John Hoover and Joseph Burns 1 ac of >land >Vol F 1812-1830 none Vol G 1813-1814 none >Vol H 1814-1815 >p 8 1814 ordered by court Sheriff of RCT bring into court the body of >SAMUEL BAKER now confined in the jail of this county. It is ordered by >court Saml Baker be remained tojail until Fri next >p 53 1815 Jan 15, sheriff bring into this court SAML Baker now confinded >in jail of this county >p 54 State vs SAMUEL Baker the defendants was committed to jail of this >county to be kept by them until sitting of the county court being this day >brought up at the bar. It was therefore moved by his council as no >prosecutor appearing that he be discharged….coart has no jurisdiction of >the offense. Charges against him are discharged. >Vol I 1815-1816 none, Vol K 1816-1817 none, >Vol L 1817-1818 >p 190 1817 Oct 20, James Robinson this day appointed constable for this >county who gave bond with Daniel Boatright >and JEHU Baker his securities and took oath of office. >p 244 1818 Mar 2, deed from Ezekiel J Fuller to NATHAN Baker for 45 ac ack >open court by Hezekiel Fuller >Vol N 1819- >p 6 1819 Mar 8, deed From Thos Shute to John(Jehu) Baker 100 ac, proven >by John Hoover witness >p 31 Baker & Brown vs George E Harris -plaintiff recover against >defendant the debt (57.00) and court cost >p 114 no date , Transfer of platt and survey fromThomas Moore to Alexander >Nisbett for 10 ac proven in court by ABRAM Baker and John Brashear >witnesses >p 177 Daniel Bane vs CONRAD Baker --case to be dismissed >Vol O 1819-1820 none > >Roll 73 > Wills, Inventories, Settlements 1820-1832 Vol V typed index --no Baker's >, Mathias Broyles p 26,116 > >Shreveport: >microfilm index to deeds Vol A-C 1804-1890 (dim film) >John Baker grantee - U.S. Sublett J p 213 >Nathan Baker grantee - Eliz J Fuller L p 208 >Wm Bryant grantee - Jon and Wm Davidson? L p 329 >Daniel Baker grantee - James Sanders? L p 429 >HUMPHREY BAKER - Daniel Wi?? O p 393 > > >At 10:14 PM 1/15/2005, you wrote: >>Janet there is a John Baker in Rutherford County TN….see link >> >><http://www.copies1918.com/rutherford-h.html>http://www.copies1918.com/rutherford-h.html >> >>I think I’ll do some nosing around in that county in the next few >>months….deeds and wills first… >> >>Char >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Janet Burks [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:00 PM >>To: Baker,Sylvester-Charlotte Coats >>Subject: Deeds-on Hickman Creek etc. >> >>Char, >>If you can add to this please do let me know. I don't have any of the >>Coats deeds abstracted. >>Rev. Robert Baker had sons Robert Jr b ca 1778, Jacob, Esau as far as we >>know at his point. Probably a Rev Thomas Hickman Baker who DNA matches >>us and maybe a Samuel and John??? >>Rev. Robert's father Humphrey had a wife named Anna. We also have the >>names Hiram, Malahan and Tabitha in our family. >>We've just started researching this area since finding our Rev. Robert was >>the same man on Hickmans Creek. >>Thanks, >>Janet >> >>Davidson Co,TN formed 1783 >>Robertson Co, TN formed 1796 >> >>SUMNER COUNTY, TENNESSEE (formed 1786 from Davidson Co, TN) >> Sumner County, Tennessee Deed Abstracts 1793-1805 >>pp. 28-29 14 June 1796 Azchariah GREEN to Thomas EGNEW tract on east side >>Drack's [Creek]. Wit. D. BEARD, Robt. BAKER >>(Beard's associated with our Baker's in Greene/Campbell Co TN) >> >>(I'm not sure this is Rev Robert?? I've got him in the 1797 tax roll of >>Madison Co, KY and he left after that. This may be a younger Robert??) >> >>p. 195 >>3 Mar. 1798 Thomas HAFLER, Gates Co., NC to John BAKER of Montgomery Co., >>TN, 320 acres, 1/2 of tract granted to William WALTON 27 Apr. 1793 on east >>said of creek that empties into Roaring River. >> >>p. 107 >>18 Aug. 1802 John BAKER of Robertson Co., TN to Thomas HOBDY, tract of >>east side Sulfer Lick Creek of Drake's Creek of Barren, being 514 acres >>part of a Military Warrant #2303 granted BAKER by patent in 1789. Wit.: >>John BAKER, Jr., James BRACKLIN. >>(John Jr probably a young son ?) >> >> >>SMITH COUNTY, TENNESSEE (formed 1799 from Sumner) >> Deeds 1800-1807 Smith County, Tennessee >>B:101 >>4 June 1802 Thomas HICKMAN of Davidson County to Henry MOORE of Smith >>County, land on the south side of the Cumberland adjoining Robert BAKER's >>320 acre survey on the headwaters of Hickman's Creek. >>Wit.: Chas. KAVANAUGH, Thos. FLOOD >>(Charles Kavanaugh from Madison Co,KY where Rev. Robert resided before >>coming to this area of TN.) >> >>B:102-103 >>5 April 1802 John BAKER of Robertson County to William NEEL of Smith >>County, land adjoining KAVANAUGH. >>Wit. Chas. KAVANAUGH, Robt. McCARTER, Edward GOOD >> >>B:115-116 >>20 June 1802 Charles KAVANAUGH of Smith County to William NEEL of the >>same, south side of Cumberland, part of tract purchased from Jno. BAKER. >> >>B:142-143 >>14 October 1802 Dan WILLIAMS of Madison County, KY to Andrew Johnson >>KAVENAUGH of Wilson County, TN. >>Wit.: Andrew GOFF, James SCOBEY, John BAKER >> >>Deeds 1807-1811 Smith County, Tennessee >>C:59-60 >>7 April 1807 Warrant 509 from NC, located 10 Sep. 1788 surveyed for >>Obadiah BAKER, assignee of Stephen TRUIT for 640 acres in Sumner County on >>east side of Smith's Fork of Caney Creek >> >>C:230-231 >>17 Dec. 1808 >>John BAKER of Robertson County to John ALLEN of Smith County, part of 1000 >>acre grant to John BAKER as assignee of heirs of Wm. HARGROVE. >> >>(We need to research William Hargrove and see if John Baker married his >>daughter or what relationship he had to Hargrove. ) >> >> Deeds 1811-1814 Smith County, Tennessee >>D:133-134 >>21 Apr. 1812 Obediah BAKER of Clark County, GA to Sylvester BAKER of Smith >>County, power of attorney regarding 640 acres on Smith Fork of Caney Fork >>of Cumberland River. >> >>Deeds 1814-1816 Smith County, Tennessee >>E:79-80 >>14 July 1814 >>Sylvester BAKER of Smith County to Bethel ALLEN of same, tract on Smiths >>Fork. >> >>Deeds 1816-1819 Smith County, Tennessee >>F: 128 and 129 1817 Sylvester BAKER of Warren County. >> >>F:210 >>11 Sep. 1817 Bethel ALLEN of St. Charles County, MO territory to James >>READ of Smith County, tract on Smith's Fork , adjacent Obediah BAKER. >> >>Two days later: >> >>F:514 >>13 Sep. 1817 Robert BAKER of Smith County to Samuel BURKS of Wilson County >>in Smith and Wilson Counties on headwaters of Hickman Creek where BAKER >>now lives beginning at Buckeye on N.W. Corner; south to Branch; down >>Branch to Fork; up other Branch to Richard BELCHER; east to Sugar corner >>James POWELL; north 226 poles to beginning. >>Wit.: Pollis NEEL, William NEEL, Richard BELCHER, Robert B. WILLIAMS >>Proved Feb. 1819 by BELCHER and WILLIAMS >> >>I believe William Coats last deed was in Dec 1817? >> >>WILSON CO, TN (formed 1799 from Sumner) >> A:128 >>8 November 1800 John BAKER of Robertson County, TN to Matthew FIGURES of >>Wilson County for $640, 640 acres on the headwaters of Hickmans Creek in >>Wilson County beginning at a poplar and sugartree running S 226 poles to >>two beeches then W 452 poles to a stake then N 226 poles to a stake then E >>452 poles to beginning. >>Signed: /s/ Robert BAKER >>Wit.: Alex C. CARRUTH, Walter CARRUTH >> >>( Rev. Robert Baker and one JOHN BAKER both resided on the "headwaters" >>of Hickmans Creek in 1800. ) >> >>A:132 >>20 March 1801 Robert BAKER of Wilson County to Edmund POWELL, $150, 100 >>acres in Wilson County beginning at a sugar tree 226 poles from a noted >>white walnut corner near the mouth of the boiling fountain fork of >>Hickmans Creek then W 71 poles to a sugartree then N 226 poles to an ash >>sugar tree and dogwood, then S 226 poles to the beginning. >>Signed: Robert BAKER >>No witness >> >>A:181 >>15 March 1799 Thomas HICKMAN of [blank] County, TN to Robert BAKER of >>Davidson County for $320, 320 acres in Sumner County on the head waters of >>Hickmans Creek, a branch of the Caney Fork, joining Thomas HICKMAN's >>survey of 640 acres, beginning at a Buckeye running S 226 poles to a red >>oak then E 226 poles to a stake Charles KAVANAUGH's lines then N 226 poles >>to the beginning. >>Signed: Thomas HICKMAN >>Wit.: William TRIG, Humphry BAKER, William HENDERSON, Chas. KAVANAUGH >> >>(This is Humphrey Baker who married Sally Hyde in Davidson Co, marriages.) >> >>C:93 >>13 Nov. 1807 Robert BAKER of Smith County to Matthew CARTWRIGHT of Wilson >>County, for $68, a tract of land,"it being part of Robert BAKERs tract of >>land in the County of Wilson and State aforesaid and it being part of >>Robert BAKERs tract of land he now lived on" on headwaters Hickmans Creek, >>being the southwest corner of said BAKER's land beginning at a red oak the >>NW corner of Henry MOOREs now Peter CARTWRIGHTs land running E 50 poles to >>a stake on the bank of the creek then with the creek to the fork, up said >>for to said Robert BAKERs line to a sugar tree then S to the beginning. >>Signed: Robert BAKER >>Wit.: Lewis BICKERS, Petter? RAGLIN >> >> > >Always Remember: Without documentation, genealogy is mythology! > > Always Remember: Without documentation, genealogy is mythology!