Problem is I just can't seem to locate that book that tells us exactly how they were all related in SC...<g>...but I'm working on it...I might see if SC has any Baptist or Quaker records on microfilm... I've started indexing Book C of the Newberry deeds...boy, the microfilm is really light...some of the deeds can't even be read from the microfilm...what a shame to see these records like this...I guess it's no wonder a lot of records never survived...but maybe we can at least make them more accessible... I also found Clement Davis deed, don't recall who he sold it to...but it shows Marm as the only adjoining land owner and says it was on Reedy Creek...it's another of those really light deeds, about the first 300 pages are really light...these are still late 1700 deeds in this book...I'll pull a lot of them i.e. if they have a Coats name in it *anywhere* and if they might tell us what happened to some of the land after the plats were surveyed etc... We really need to start on the SC Archive for audio versions of these microfilm...they're really hard on the eyes...<g>.. Char ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda J. Dudick Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:34 PM To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Little John Coats Charlotte, It's all your wonderful work that has allowed us to make some signficant gains on the Coates in the Carolinas..... so we thank you greatly! At 10:29 PM 1/2/2001 -0800, you wrote: >I think this is the or a Pemberton connection with the Coats I've seen in >the past...the LDS has a research file for Pemberton and Newbold and both >showed connections with the Coats and somehow they connected with the >Hoover line as well...I've seen the microfilm copies of these files...lots >of research, but like the rest of us they hit a brickwall in the Coats >line and just don't seem to try and carry it any further...although I >think both lines tired into Marmaduke and Ann Pool...probably using that >old Coats genealogy... > >But didn't that William that died in 1830 something in SC have a daughter >named Esther? I'm going through those records again...making some >annotations and seeing what I've missed or what might have meaning now >that didn't then...and see if I can place some of these deeds with some of >the other land records we have...i.e. Mottes and that Union County >Historical Society Plat map...it seems that Henry Coats on Goose Pon >Creek, sold 350 acres of land but in that later deed, it refered to 200 >acres originally surveyed or owned by Henry Coats...that likewise is a >perplexing situation...since his petition was also for 200 acres...so I'm >going to check that to make sure those are all the same or refer to the >same piece of land... > >Also I've seen on one of the GA lists were some of the Folks I think it >was in Columbia GA, had gone to Summner County TN...so I'm still thinking >some info out of GA might give us some additional clues on all this...I'm >just waiting on the letters from the Courts for permission to purchase the >microfilm... > >I've also ordered the Iredell and Guilford County NC land records and will >be ordering before the end of the week, the will records and probably some >estate records, i.e. accounts etc...for Iredell County, haven't gotten the >microfilm info on Guilford County NC yet... > >I'm also working on getting some more records out of PA...I might try some >of the early wills out of there...I don't think the land records revealed >anything new...but I did find a couple of Coats that were the Warrantee >but someone else was the Patentee...and of course it wasn't under the *C* >in the index so I've got to go through those and find that info again... > >It just takes time...<g>.... > >Char >----- Original Message ----- >From: Linda J. Dudick >Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 2:37 PM >To: * Charlotte >Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Little John Coats > >I just read my info on William, son of Little John, and he had moved to >the Mississippi territory by 1800... so he probably wouldn't have been in >the 1802/4 land records. Does anyone know who the Henry and William Coate >and Esther and Richard Pemberton are living in Newberry Co., SC in 1802/4? > >At 09:05 AM 1/2/2001 -0800, you wrote: >>No, the unfortunate part is that it doesn not say who the widow is...but >>there is also a plat in the Archive, I think it was in Benjamin Long's >>estate papers in the Quity Court records, that shows, Benjamin Long with >>land on the north side of the Saluda and just next to it Capt Henry >>Long's land... >> >>I'm wondering if that Esther Pemberton is Esther the daughter of William, >>the one that died in 1830 something...didn't he have a daughter named >>Esther...I recall Dorothy and a son William, but don't recall he had a >>son named Henry... >> >>Hmmm, yes, I assumed it was the Beaverdam near Little River.... >> >>Char >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Linda J. Dudick >>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:25 AM >>To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Little John Coats >> >>This 1802 or 4 Mortgage you talk about is very interesting. I haven't seen >>it.... Is there any indication who the "widow" is.... The William and >>Henry could easily be the known sons of Little John.... (not Big John who >>lives on Beaverdam Creek and who doesn't die until 1809).... Does anyone >>know who Esther and Richard Pemberton are??? so we can place this >>family. It could indicate a relationship between Big John Coates family >>and this Coates family so is definitely worth checking on the location of >>the property on Bigdam (as there were 3 Bigdam Creeks in Newberry Co.) and >>narrowing down who it refers too. >> >>At 11:48 PM 1/1/2001 -0800, you wrote: >> >Well, in the Archive also is the estate papers for Little John Coates and >> >Susannah his wife, Henry Coates was involved as well...and the papers call >> >him Little John Coates... >> > >> >But also in there is a Mortgage from William Coate, Henry Coate, Esther >> >Pemberton and Richard Pemberton to Joseph Toland in 1802 or 1804, I think >> >it is...anyway, they took out a mortgage on land on Beaverdam *where the >> >widow now lives*...sooooo, William, Henry and Mamduke are brothers? 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