Hello, Coates listers: Before we get any further, I have to make a correction in my data for Jesse Coate, son of Marmaduke "Duke" Coate. I went back to my grandfather's death certificate. It lists his father as Jesse LOVELACE Coate, not LOVELESS. I don't know if it make any difference but to me it spells out; it could be either one--Loveless or Lovelace--almost interchangable, depending on who was saying the name and their vocal accents. EXAMPLE: A record keeper hears Coate and writes Coats down because he knew a Coats family elsewhere. Take care, happy 2001, and good hunting Etta Cooper _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com