No, the unfortunate part is that it doesn not say who the widow is...but there is also a plat in the Archive, I think it was in Benjamin Long's estate papers in the Quity Court records, that shows, Benjamin Long with land on the north side of the Saluda and just next to it Capt Henry Long's land... I'm wondering if that Esther Pemberton is Esther the daughter of William, the one that died in 1830 something...didn't he have a daughter named Esther...I recall Dorothy and a son William, but don't recall he had a son named Henry... Hmmm, yes, I assumed it was the Beaverdam near Little River.... Char ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda J. Dudick Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:25 AM To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Little John Coats This 1802 or 4 Mortgage you talk about is very interesting. I haven't seen it.... Is there any indication who the "widow" is.... The William and Henry could easily be the known sons of Little John.... (not Big John who lives on Beaverdam Creek and who doesn't die until 1809).... Does anyone know who Esther and Richard Pemberton are??? so we can place this family. It could indicate a relationship between Big John Coates family and this Coates family so is definitely worth checking on the location of the property on Bigdam (as there were 3 Bigdam Creeks in Newberry Co.) and narrowing down who it refers too. At 11:48 PM 1/1/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Well, in the Archive also is the estate papers for Little John Coates and >Susannah his wife, Henry Coates was involved as well...and the papers call >him Little John Coates... > >But also in there is a Mortgage from William Coate, Henry Coate, Esther >Pemberton and Richard Pemberton to Joseph Toland in 1802 or 1804, I think >it is...anyway, they took out a mortgage on land on Beaverdam *where the >widow now lives*...sooooo, William, Henry and Mamduke are brothers? Or >who is this William and Henry? > >Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a >href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p> > > >==== COATES Mailing List ==== ==== COATES Mailing List ====<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>