We just had improved test results for the kit descended through Wright Coate, Big John's son and it is still an exact match to the other 5 people in the Big John - Marmaduke grouping at 25 points of DNA who believed they weere descended from Big John. He should be getting back more test results in the next week or so when I'll remake the charts and place them up at http://www.ancestrees.com/dna/family.html. This is one of our more difficult puzzles falling into place. Enjoy. Linda Coate