Ok, I've gotten a new book called: Quaker in South Carolina, Wateree and Bush River, Cane Creek, Piney Grove and Charleston Meetings by Rev Silas Lucas on page 21 under Pine Tree Hill chapter - by the way, this little book is about the Camden early folks including the Quakers, of interest to some might be the map of Camden with plats on it as early as the 1740s...a Samuel Wyly shows up in Camden as early as 1761...at any rate on page 21 of the book: The Quaker sect, after planting their settlements, received few accessions, and were steadily disintegrated or merged by marriage into other denominations. Another cause of their decline, as expressed by Colonel Shannon, was the "advancing civilzation of slavery." Says O'Neall: "In the beginning Friends were slaveowners in South Carolina. They, however, soon set their faces against it, and in their peculiar language, they have borne their testimoney against the institutuion of slavery as irreligious. Such of their members as refused to emancipate their slaves, when emancipation was practicable in this state, they disowned. Samuel Kelly, who was the owner of a slave or slaves in 1762, when he came from Camden, refused to emanncipate his, on the ground that he had bought and paid for them; they were therefore his property; and that they were a great deal better off as his property. He was therefore disowned. His brother's children manumitted theirs." So be careful with blanket statements that Quakers did no own slaves.... -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://www.cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://stores.lulu.com/pagesthroughtime