Do either of you have a Coates, Coate, Coats male, brother, uncle or cousin that might join our DNA project? We need all the help we can get on this family....:) Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Ken & Judy" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [COATES-L] Coates in Ireland Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 09:46:29 -0700 I have some Irish Coates, but very skimpy information. Catherine Coates married in Parish Church Kiltormer, Galway, Ireland about 1837 to James Butler. I have no record of who her parents are, nor even who her siblings are. However, when her children were baptised, the first three had Coates as Godparents: 1838: Bridget Butler, Godmother Brigida (Bridget) Coates 1840: Judith Julia Buter, Godfather Patrick Coates 1842: James Laurence Butler, Godmother Anna Coates Does this family of Coates look familiar to anyone researching Coates in Ireland? Kiltormer is in very eastern Galway. This family immigrated to USA in mid-1850s. Judy in Western USA -----Original Message----- From: Alice Cochrane [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [COATES-L] Margaret COATS, d/o Samuel, Upper Falls, Belfast, Ireland, c1810+ Hello, This is my first posting to this site as I would like to know if anyone is researching the Coats surname in Belfast area, Ireland, c1810+. I am specifically looking for Margaret COATS, d/o Samuel COATS, Upper Falls, Belfast area, Ireland. In 1829 she married James CRAWFORD. I also have the 1826 Tithe surname list for Lower Falls, Ballymurphy area of Belfast and found these Coats included: Wm. COATS; Jno. COATS; and Sam COATS. I would be delighted to hear from anyone with relevant information. Thanks for your time. Alice Cochrane, Alberta, Canada ==== COATES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) ==== COATES Mailing List ==== Find out where your Coate/s family fits. Join the Coats/Coates/Coate DNA Project, http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/coatsarchive/dna.htm

http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/coatsarchive/dna.htm I've just posted a new result that is claiming through Big John, it was a match with Marm's group...don't know the particulars on it yet... this creates a conflict here, which means there probably isn't enough documentation either way to tell... So that brings up back to we need more male Coate, Coates, Coats to join our project...so if you're on this list and have the Coats surname...please consider joining our DNA project... Char

I have some Irish Coates, but very skimpy information. Catherine Coates married in Parish Church Kiltormer, Galway, Ireland about 1837 to James Butler. I have no record of who her parents are, nor even who her siblings are. However, when her children were baptised, the first three had Coates as Godparents: 1838: Bridget Butler, Godmother Brigida (Bridget) Coates 1840: Judith Julia Buter, Godfather Patrick Coates 1842: James Laurence Butler, Godmother Anna Coates Does this family of Coates look familiar to anyone researching Coates in Ireland? Kiltormer is in very eastern Galway. This family immigrated to USA in mid-1850s. Judy in Western USA -----Original Message----- From: Alice Cochrane [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [COATES-L] Margaret COATS, d/o Samuel, Upper Falls, Belfast, Ireland, c1810+ Hello, This is my first posting to this site as I would like to know if anyone is researching the Coats surname in Belfast area, Ireland, c1810+. I am specifically looking for Margaret COATS, d/o Samuel COATS, Upper Falls, Belfast area, Ireland. In 1829 she married James CRAWFORD. I also have the 1826 Tithe surname list for Lower Falls, Ballymurphy area of Belfast and found these Coats included: Wm. COATS; Jno. COATS; and Sam COATS. I would be delighted to hear from anyone with relevant information. Thanks for your time. Alice Cochrane, Alberta, Canada ==== COATES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.)

Thanks, Charlotte, for the update; I figured that things would slow down during the summer months(as they ususally do)and that I wouldn't miss a ton of new developments. (Although, I would gladly go off-line for a few months if it would produce a ton of new developments!<g>). Am hoping to get back to normal here soon. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: RE: [COATES-L] I'm back! > wow...yours did what mine did a couple of weeks ago...I'm going to have to > take my old hard drive down to get the data off of it that I had stored....I > usually save it to disk but there was several months worth of work still on > it... > > Words for the day: backup, backup, backup, backup... > > This is the only thing new I've got: > > http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/coatsarchive/maryland.htm > > And to add a bit to it ... there is both Couts and Courts in MD early > on...but whether or not Coarts is a merged version of both those, I don't > know yet...or the Coats in Chester County SC are Couts or Courts but because > SC spelled it Coats/Cotes that could indicate it has a Couts origin out of > MD...still looking...:) But it appears all versions of the name in Maryland > has been spelled Coates in the transcribed records...but many of the > original records I've seen thus far have Courts spelled that way rather than > Coates.... > > We really do need more male Coate, Coates, Coats and variations to join our > DNA project...Couts by the way, doesn't have a project started yet...so I've > been trying to see if they would join ours and then depending on the results > they could spin it off....the following lines still don't have a rep in the > project: > > Notley Coats > Barton Coats > Thomas Coates m Beulah Jacques > Joan Sisom's Coats sons > Moses and Susannah Coates out of Chester County PA > James and Mary Coats out of early GA in Wrightsborough I think it was... > > Any others?? > > So if you are a male Coate, Coates, Coats on this list...please consider > joining our DNA project...it really will help us to focus groups and > research... > > Remember also we have a donation fund at PayPal for DNA kits, so if you > don't have a male Coate, Coates, Coats consider donating to the fund, and if > you need a *scholarship* from the fund, let us know...I believe we currently > have enough funds for a 12 marker kit... > > And don't forget to let everyone know, when you find anything in your > research....:) > > Char >

Boy, Would that be great, especially when there is a Notley Couts up in Maryland and the name is indexed Coats. At 04:55 PM 8/29/2004, you wrote: >We have a Couts group interested in the DNA projects...not sure they'll >join ours or start their own...will keep you posted....:) > >Char > > > >==== COATES Mailing List ==== >Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: >http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar LINDA COATE, Columbus, Ohio [email protected] www.ancestrees.com

Well, in Maryland it's Coarts in SC it's Coats... In Charles County MD it's Courts transcribed from what I can tell as Coates in most records... Charles Coarts was in Frederick County MD some distance from Charles County, so there may not be a connection between these two family lines...also I've added some new info to the Maryland Timeline page in the Coats Archive...it doesn't appear that Charles Coats in Charles County MD had a son named Charles...I've not checked all of them and I don't think all of the kids have been account for in this group...so maybe they wondered into Frederick County MD...but there is also quite a group of Barton's in Charles County MD...also the either the Courts or Barton's have a VA connection as well....Bartholomew Courts/Coates' son was a Thomas Courts/Coates...that website at rootsweb, has this Charles County MD Courts and Barton families pretty well covered....and well documented... Also in Charles County MD there is an early William Couts....so the name may have gotten transformed over the years from Couts to Courts...but not sure...but that Couts may also have been the first of a line from the Shetland Islands....and they branched out from Charles County MD...the Courts seemed to have land in quite a few counties on both the East and West Coasts of MD...so being a rather small state, might not be as significant as say SC or TX or WY... Sooooo, still looking....:) Char

We have a Couts group interested in the DNA projects...not sure they'll join ours or start their own...will keep you posted....:) Char

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mrmarsha&id=I03592 Ton of documented Courts info out of MD... Char

http://www.crystalmountain-aromatics.com/genealogy/courts/jc1.htm Get a load of this....

This is another group we don't have a DNA test for: Lewis and Parthena Coates from TN I think Lewis Coates was also in VA early on... Char

These from Tom in MN....:) Thanks, Tom... Char ----Original Message Follows---- Subject: South Dakota Records Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:36:16 -0500 Lake Co SD records Last Name First Name Cemetery Coates Charles D. Graceland Coates Cora E. Graceland Coates Isabelle Graceland Coates James P. Graceland Coates John Jay Graceland Coates Martha Graceland Coates Melvin L. Graceland Coates Nathan Graceland Coates Nettie R. Graceland Coates Wilbert E. Graceland Coats Baby Lake Madison Coats Minnie L. Winfred Coats Winnie L. Winfred GRACELAND CEMETERY, MADISON, LAKE CO., SOUTH DAKOTA Coates Charles D. M 1858 16 Mar 1952 Coates Cora E. F 1888 13 Feb 1954 Coates Isabelle F 1858 11 Apr 1949 Coates James P. M 10 Jan 1895 23 Oct 1967 yes Ia Eng. WW I Coates John Jay M 1886 17 Nov 1949 Coates Martha F See: Martha Graham Coates Melvin L. M 1928 13 Jan 1946 Coates Nathan M 1900 21 Dec 1944 Coates Nettie R. F 1878 1934 Coates Wilbert E. M 1869 1934 NAME MERIDIAN T WP RANGE SECTION ACREAGE TYPE CASETYPE DOCID DATE COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 015 160 251101 PA 419615 07/06/1914 COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 027 160 251101 PA 729320 01/20/1920 COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 027 160 251101 PA 729320 06/25/1936 COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 028 200 251104 PA 928054 12/31/1923 COATES FRED 07 010 S 002 E 028 200 251104 PA 928054 06/25/1936 COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 009 40 251101 PA 446870 12/05/1914 COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 010 120 251101 PA 446870 12/05/1914 COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 003 120 251101 PA 780095 11/03/1920 COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 004 40 251104 PA 780096 11/03/1920 COATES GEORGE 07 010 S 002 E 010 80 251104 PA 780096 11/03/1920 COATES LOUISA 07 010 S 002 E 004 80 251104 PA 110812 05/02/1940 COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 015 80 251101 PA 423405 07/23/1914 COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 022 80 251101 PA 423405 07/23/1914 COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 022 40 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924 COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 023 40 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924 COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 026 120 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924 COATES WILLIAM 07 010 S 002 E 027 40 251104 PA 930700 01/28/1924 Index to 1910 Atlas, Union CO., SD This file is an index to the "Standard Atlas of Union County, SD" (1910) Compiled by Geo. A. Ogle & Co. The index was compiled by Joy R. Fisher, [email protected] from the original atlas. Copyright, 1996 Joy R. Fisher. This file may be freely copied for non-profit purposes. All other rights reserved. Last Name First Name Section Twp Name T R Page Other Info Coates Samuel 9 Civil Bend 89N 49W 47 Minnehaha Co. SD -- Federal Land Records -- Names "C" -"E" NAME MERIDIAN TWP RANGE SECTION ACREAGE TYPE CASETYPE DOCID DATE COATES ANNA E 05 103 N 052 W 008 160 272002 PA 7108 04/10/1884 COATES OSCAR P 05 103 N 052 W 009 160 251101 PA 6946 03/22/1888 COATS CASSIUS M 05 101 N 049 W 022 160 262201 PA 1521 07/10/1873 COATS CLARK G 05 102 N 049 W 028 160 251101 PA 1802 08/20/1878 COATS CLARK G 05 101 N 049 W 031 160 262201 PA 566 03/20/1872 1883 U. S. Military Pensioners, Dakota Territory Coates, Cassius Sioux Falls Minneh U.S. Military Personnel Who Died (Including Missing and Captured Declared Dead) as a result of the Vietnam conflict, 1957-1995 Listed Alphabetically by Name as of November 1997 Mil. Military - Home of Record - Date of Place of Date of BNR Name Grd. Service City or Town State Death* Death Birth Type of Casualty COATES HARRY JAY JR MAJ AIR FORCE YANKTON SD 04NOV69 S.VIETNAM 28SEP31 HOSTILE,KILLED Other Odd data Coates Tricia Ann George Coates & Colleen Larvia Infant May 31, 1972 Houston TX June 10, 1973 Chapel State Home Coates Wilfred Allen Fred & Mary Taylor Coates Adult October 26, 1909 Edgemont April 24, 1960 United Church Hot Springs COATES Georgia 1st 04 81 1871 1964 n COATES Giffen 1st 04 81 1894 1950 n COATES Josiah 1st 04 81 1839 1914 y COATES Kathryn 1st 02 88 2 1903 1987 COATES Leonard 1st 02 88 8 1897 1973 n COATES Ruby 1st 04 81 1887 1971 n

Greetings all, After having had my computer crash and burn(and losing all my addresses to boot), I have finally managed to get back to the Coates list. It has been a trial. Hope I haven't missed out on anything world-shaking, Charlotte, John, et al,; but if I have, am hoping someone will clue me in. Anyway, regards to all. Larry

wow...yours did what mine did a couple of weeks ago...I'm going to have to take my old hard drive down to get the data off of it that I had stored....I usually save it to disk but there was several months worth of work still on it... Words for the day: backup, backup, backup, backup... This is the only thing new I've got: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/coatsarchive/maryland.htm And to add a bit to it ... there is both Couts and Courts in MD early on...but whether or not Coarts is a merged version of both those, I don't know yet...or the Coats in Chester County SC are Couts or Courts but because SC spelled it Coats/Cotes that could indicate it has a Couts origin out of MD...still looking...:) But it appears all versions of the name in Maryland has been spelled Coates in the transcribed records...but many of the original records I've seen thus far have Courts spelled that way rather than Coates.... We really do need more male Coate, Coates, Coats and variations to join our DNA project...Couts by the way, doesn't have a project started yet...so I've been trying to see if they would join ours and then depending on the results they could spin it off....the following lines still don't have a rep in the project: Notley Coats Barton Coats Thomas Coates m Beulah Jacques Joan Sisom's Coats sons Moses and Susannah Coates out of Chester County PA James and Mary Coats out of early GA in Wrightsborough I think it was... Any others?? So if you are a male Coate, Coates, Coats on this list...please consider joining our DNA project...it really will help us to focus groups and research... Remember also we have a donation fund at PayPal for DNA kits, so if you don't have a male Coate, Coates, Coats consider donating to the fund, and if you need a *scholarship* from the fund, let us know...I believe we currently have enough funds for a 12 marker kit... And don't forget to let everyone know, when you find anything in your research....:) Char

Full lines here: http://www.sphosting.com/stark/genealog1.html They don't show any children...but could be they descend from the Morgan line and just don't have the Ann Coates Stark kids...looks like she died pretty young... Still Noooooooo sign of Priscilla Coats/Coates here sister... ******************************* 20. WILLIAM6 STARK (THOMAS5, JAMES4, JOHN3,JOHN2, JOHN1) was born May 20, 1753 in , Fairfax, VIrginia, and died November 4, 1826 in , Robertson, Tennessee. He married (1) ANN (STARK) COATES 1776 in , Newberry, South Carolina. She was born ABT 1757 in , Newberry, South Carolina?. He married (2) MARTHA (STARK) MORGAN July 21, 1789 in , Robertson, Tennessee. She was born May 4, 1770 in , Robertson, Tennessee, and died August 25, 1821 in , Robertson, Tennessee. More About WILLIAM STARK: Burial: Stark Cemetery, Robertson, Tennessee More About WILLIAM STARK and ANN COATES: Marriage: 1776, , Newberry, South Carolina More About WILLIAM STARK and MARTHA MORGAN: Marriage: July 21, 1789, , Robertson, Tennessee Children of WILLIAM STARK and MARTHA MORGAN are: i. WILLIAM7 STARK, b. February 18, 1790, , Robertson, Tennessee; d. August 1, 1864, , Robertson, Tennessee. ii. RACHEL STARK, b. ABT 1791, , Robertson, Tennessee; d. ABT 1884, , Robertson, Tennessee. iii. EPHRAIM STARK, b. 1793, , Robertson, Tennessee; d. Bet. 1837 - 1838, , Robertson, Tennessee. iv. JAMES STARK, b. ABT 1800.

Hooray - Os to the rescue again! Thank you!! Now I know that there is only one Coates book offered that covers my group and I can get my order in before the sale deadline. It's great to belong to a list with so many generous and knowledgeable members (like Os), Susan osborn cresson wrote: >Yes, Susan, "Coates Family Memorials & Recollections; or Aunt Mary's >Patchwork" by >Mary Coates 171+34p. /1885 is about the line of Thomas and Buelah Jaques. > Mary was their 3 x great granddaughter. >Happy studies, >Os > > >==== COATES Mailing List ==== >Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: >http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar > > > >

http://genforum.genealogy.com/couts/messages/114.html Info on the Coutts of Shetland Island... This just gets murkier and murkier...:) Char

Yes, Susan, "Coates Family Memorials & Recollections; or Aunt Mary's Patchwork" by Mary Coates 171+34p. /1885 is about the line of Thomas and Buelah Jaques. Mary was their 3 x great granddaughter. Happy studies, Os

This is from FTDNA's newsletter: Case Studies in Genetic Genealogy ================================= In each issue of the Newsletter, we look at what Genetic Genealogy will do for your Family History research and present a case study. Case Study ========== I don't understand the tests. I have 5 exact matches then it says four of them have mutations. Recommendation ============== You took the 25 marker test. The results displayed on the Y DNA Match page first shows those whom you match at 12 Markers, and then 25 Markers. On the 12 marker test you matched 5 men at 12/12 and 3 more at a Genetic Distance of 1, or an 11/12 match. Since you share the same surname, you are quite likely related to all of them. You and some of the others also took the 25 marker test. On that test you had no 25/25 matches with any of the others. You had 3 matches at a Genetic Distance of 1, which would be a 24/25 match, and you had a Genetic Distance of 2 with 3 other men. Your results indicate that a mutation has occurred in your line, and you belong to a branch off that original line - a branch that presented specific mutations that characterizes it. ************* char's note: I'm sure this cleared everything up...:)

He's talking about Barton Coats and Notley Coats lines of SC....I really believe the Coats in SC are related to a Barton group somewhere....:) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rob Barton <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected], Terry Barton <[email protected]> Subject: BARTONs in Frederick County Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:15:45 -0400 I have been aware if this line for some time but know of no researcher working the line. The names of the children appear to match two known lineages, the most likely is the BARTON group in Dauphin County, PA (some in northern York) part of which is Doug CHURCH's line. The names Samuel & Isaac also appear in the line of Lewis BARTON, of Baltimore County. Part of his line appeared in Caswell County, NC (once part of Orange Co.) in the later part of the 18th century and were located in an area where a lot of folks went further south, into SC. Go to RootsWeb's Frederick Co. site and do a search for the BARTON surname in Frederick. I did a quick search and found several group sheets posted by someone that is not related but had the data. What is there may be of some use. http://www.mdgenweb.org/ Rob Barton

Thank you Os Cresson for yet again sharing your knowledge of the Coats/Coates family resources. I appreciate you taking the time to confirm what I suspected was the book's subject and saving me a few dollars on my book order (always grateful for saved $$). Susan note to list - I forgot to mention that the 4 books mentioning the Coates surname were - "Thomas Coates, Eng. to Pa, 1683, &; the Coates fam. in Phila City Dir, 1785-1901" 43p. "Coates Genealogy of Moses & Susanna Coates, who settled in Penn in 1717 & their descendants" by T. Coates 319p. / 1906 "Swedish Holsteins in America 1644 to 1892" by A. M. Holstein 305p./ 1892 "Coates Family Memorials & Recollections; or Aunt Mary's Patchwork" by Mary Coates 171+34p. / 1885 Is anyone on the list familiar with the last book (1885 by Mary Coates) and could let me know which Coates family it covers? I have found that although many of the earlier published books did not have the advantage of the internet they did have access to family members who could share their first hand knowledge of family history and documentation. Thanks, Susan osborn cresson wrote: >Susan, yes you are probably right about the Higginson Books offering >since the full title of the monograph about Thomas Coates and Beulah >Jacques (by Henry T. Coates, 1897) is "Thomas Coates who removed from >England to the Province of Pennsylvania, 1683". It is only 27 pages so >the extra pages are probably a copy of city directories as the listing >suggests. >Os Cresson > > >