Does anyone know who the John Coats was who was born between 1760-1770 living in Union Twp., Miami Co., Ohio in the 1830 census? His wife was born between 1750-1760. They had 2 males living with them of age 30-40, and 2 females, one of 10-15 and the other of 20-30. Linda Coate LINDA COATE, Columbus, Ohio [email protected] www.ancestrees.com

http://www.genealogybuff.com/ Nifty site...

CA - Coats birth records: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/search.php?last_name=Coats

A conversion from FTDNA to the National Geographic project is only $15.00, the SNP test at FTDNA is not required to join the NG project...that project will give you the or confirm your Haplogroup... Most interesting....:) And ladies, don't forget you can do the NG project as well....! This is your female line only, so each generation the surname changes... Char

This is part of a really fascinating article at: http://www.jogg.info/ This article also seems to imply that if the haplogroup is not the same, you do not have a common genetic ancestor? anyone else get that from this? Review Articles A Mosaic of People: The Jewish Story and a Reassessment of the DNA Evidence The Levites: The DNA of the Jewish Khazarian Priests The other Jewish priestly caste is known as the “Levites.” Like the Cohanim, Levites are recorded in the Hebrew Bible as direct descendants of Aaron, Israel’s first High Priest. In fact, the Cohanim are actually a special subsection of the Levites (Telushkin 1997, p. 125). In the second study published on the Cohanim, researchers reported that despite a priori expectations, Jews who identified themselves as Levites did not share a common set of markers with the Cohanim (Thomas et al. 1998). Unfortunately, the reporting that the Levites did not share a genetic signature from a common patrilineal ancestor with the Cohanim flew in the face of Jewish tradition. This led to some rather bizarre and disparaging explanations, like the following from Rabbi Yaakov Kleiman (1999) in Jewish Action: It is interesting to note that the tribe of Levi has a history of lack of quantity…After the Babylonian exile, the Levi’im (plural) failed to return en masse to Jerusalem, though urged by Ezra the Scribe to do so (They were therefore fined by losing their exclusive rights to maser.). Though statistically, the Levi’im should be more numerous than Cohanim, in synagogues today it is not unusual to have a minyan with a surplus of Cohanim, yet not one Levi. In point of fact, the Levites were shown to have a common set of genetic markers – just not the CMH. These markers were not even part of the same J1 haplogroup as found in the Cohanim. The majority of Levites shared a common haplotype, indicating a shared common ancestor among them, but this haplotype occurred within haplogroup R1a and, more specifically, within subgroup R1a1. Furthermore, this haplogroup was found only in the Ashkenazi Levites; it was not shared with the Sephardic Levite population in the same fashion as the CMH. Given the fact that the Ashkenazi Levites did not share R1a with their Sephardic counterparts, it appeared that this haplogroup had entered the Jewish population sometime during the Diaspora. In one of the first studies to closely examine the high levels of R1a among Levites, researchers found that R1al formed a “tight cluster” within the Ashkenazi Levites (Behar et al. 2003). This suggested to the researchers a very recent origin of this group from a single common ancestor (Behar et al. 2003).

http://www.jogg.info/ Journal of Genetic Genealogy

here's an interesting group....looks like no takers yet....wonder if their will be a Newberry County SC group....:) guess we could start one.... Anyone interested....? Group Join Join the Laurens County - SC Project Website: Description: For all male and female descendants of Laurens Co., SC lines. Surnames in Project:

Ok, I was right the first time...just go to your home page and that will tell you whether you need that snp test first...that's an additional $65.00....apparently I checked out two folks who had the Works done so it showed just the join link for the NG project... I'll get it right eventually....:) Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Charlotte Coats" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: [Coates_Coate_Coats] correction to NG project Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:36:33 -0700 Hmmm, I take back the snp part of the FTDNA testing to join the NG project... Apparently anyone with a 12 marker test can join the NG project for the $15.00 fee....there is a link on your home page to do this.... Anyone interested? Char

Hmmm, I take back the snp part of the FTDNA testing to join the NG project... Apparently anyone with a 12 marker test can join the NG project for the $15.00 fee....there is a link on your home page to do this.... Anyone interested? Char

Well, this is interesting use of joining two groups....:) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Charles <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [DNA] Joining two DNA projects with FamilyTreeDNA groups is now allowed Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:52:42 -0400 All: I received email from FamilyTreeDNA.com this afternoon addressed to my various projects that individuals can now join two projects/groups. I tried it out it works great. Now an individual can be in a surname project and an ethnic group or geographic project too .. such as my PA Deutsch Project. http://www.kerchner.com/kerchdna.htm http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm Kudos to the folks at FamilyTreeDNA for implementing this feature. Charles Kerchner http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm

I don't think we have any specific requirements to our group other than a Surname variation of Coate, Coates, Coats....and I believe those results from the NG project can go into the FTDNA project and visa versa... Again...ladies if you are interested in the DNA tests for your female lines, this is a good time to do that via the NG project... I have submitted my DNA for the NG project and also submitted John's from our group to the NG project...if you had the snp test the costs are only $15.00 to be included in the NG project...so I will let you know when I have more info...!! The NG project is a 5 year project, so you have some time to consider it....:) Again, if you've not seen that Journey of Man presentation by Dr. Spencer Wells, who is the project director, you are really missing something about our roots....:) He has unearthed some new data about human origins and I really think he will trace us back to Adam and Eve....:) I think the most interesting thing that caught my eye was: man was thought to have come from the Neandrathal Man (I've not spelled that correctly), but what Dr. Wells found was that the DNA from those he tested did not match the Neandrathal Man's DNA...there is no indication thus far that the Neadrathal Man's decendants survived, the line ends.....some are saying this indeed could be evidence of a great flood...recall Noah's Ark....well, Wells has found an aboriginal tribe in Africa and all those tested seem to trace back to this original tribe...and there seems to be three location variations from that original tribe, that tribe in other words, branched out in three different directions...now Noah had three sons as I recall....isn't that interesting....:) He has also traced this same tribe in Africa via India to the aboriginals in Austrailia...apparently to data no one really knew how they got to Austrailia...and Native Americans indeed came via the Bereing Straights of Alaska and on down into North America...they have matched the Navajo Tribes DNA to this same African Tribe....this indeed will be an amazing project... Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>,<[email protected]> Subject: New feature: Joining two DNA Projects Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:09:56 -0500 To Coats group manager, The widely requested feature to allow individuals to join two DNA Projects at the same time has been implemented as of this morning - 7/5/2005. The implementation allows for the following: a) individuals that do not belong to any project will now see a button in their personal pages which allows them to search for a project and join. The joining of a project follows the same rules that the group has in place, i.e. if the group has in place a "Join Request", the person will have to be approved before joining. b) individuals that already belong to a project will also see a button in their personal page allowing them to search for a second project and join. The joining of a second project follows the same rules that the group has in place, i.e. if the group has in place a "Join Request", the person will have to be approved before joining. c) the "Join" button will be seen in the personal page as long as the person still has the possibility of joining a second project. d) as before, the Group Administrator will be notified both on new members, and on "Join Requests". A new link "Allow Join" in the GAP shows up if 1) you have your group set to admit new members through a "Join Request" AND 2) you have requests to join your surname project from members that have already been tested and are pending approval. Once someone that has tested, whether from the Genographic Project or from Family Tree DNA, sends you a "Join Request", do not reply to that person with a "join link" since this may prompt the person to order a new test that is not needed. Instead, check your GAP for the "Allow Join" link, and you will see a list of pending approvals with 2 options: "Allowed", and "Not Allowed". If you check "Allowed", the person will immediately join your project and receive a notification. If you check "Not Allowed", a new window will show up with an e-mail form so that you can explain to the person why you are not allowing and what is the Group requirement to join the project. The link will disappear if there are no pending requests. e) You will also see an "X" icon in the Members page at the GAP. This icon allows you to remove a person from the Group. Please use it in a judicious way, as it will also require that you e-mail the person explaining why you are excluding him/her from the project. Finally, a word about allowing or not allowing people to join projects: I know that some of you have had different requirements for individuals to join a project. I've heard once an excellent speaker talk about "reciprocity" and how things work on a "give and take" way. He also said that it is much easier to get something from someone when you start by giving them something. I believe that your projects can be enhanced if you don't reject people outright. While keeping your "Join Requests" in place, you can now say to the person that you are allowing to Join, but that the project would work much better if the person meets your requirements. Let the person join. Follow-up with the person. Make the person see why your request would enhance the project, and give the person some time. Remember, the new features allow you to remove a person if after some time that person will not meet your project requirements. I am sure you will get more participants meeting your requirements if you give them the opportunity to do it without rejecting them from the outset. As always, thank you for your continued support! E-mail me any time! Max Blankfeld Vice-President, Operations and Marketing http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" [email protected] 713-868-1438 Need Original Records? Pages through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us Coate, Coates, Coats Digital Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us ONAB, California Chapter: http://www.coatsarchive.us/onabcc.htm ______________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient but do not wish to receive communications through this medium, please so advise the sender immediately.

Hello all, I suspect that my filing system is starting to overwhelm me; I know that somewhere I have a note about a member of William COATES' family in Rowan Co. marrying a Mr. ___HUNT. I can't seem to locate that info now, and I could really use those particulars. The young lady's name, I think, is what I had on file, but if her father's name is also known, I could use that, too. If John D. Coates is still monitoring this list, I suspect he will have the answer; if not, I would appreciate a note from anyone who has that information. Regards to all, Larry

Hello all, I thought I had some info on this Wm in one or both of these counties but can't seem to find it now; does anyone have any file info on a Wm in these areas and this time-frame? Thanks, Larry

At least I think it's realitively new....:) http://rootschat.com/ RootsChat for the British Isles and Ireland...

Hello all,I am trying to find information about my grandmothers family.I now know her fathers name was John Hagues and her mothers name was Emma nee Maw,her sister Martha Ann was born in1862 Grace in1873 her brother was James Frederick born in 1871.All were born in Cottingham E Yorks, if anyone knows anything about relatives of this family I would appreciate any information at all Many thanks June

Charlotte Coats wrote: > > http://www.copies1918.com/edgefield1.html > > There is a James Coats that died in Edgefield SC any one know anything > about him? > > Char > > > > ==== COATES Mailing List ==== > Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: > http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar > > > > Char; I think this would be James of Edgefield, who according to my > hypothesis would be one of the sons of John (Gentleman) Coats, of > Newberry. Proof of this is James selling his property, which he > inherited from John Gent, according to John Gent's will, to his > brother William. The property described in John Gent's will, and the > property James sold to William are one and the same. The Coates of > Illinois, who I sponsored for DNA testing, matches Marmaduke, and all > the others in that group on your site. I sent you copies of these > documents a year or so ago. Therefor, I believe that all the Coatses > in James and Marmaduke's group on your site are descendents of, or > closely related to John (Gentleman) Coats. John Coats

Hi Everybody, I hope someone has Juliana Coates born in late 1700's married to Jeremiah Burnett(also born in late 1700's) and living in Spartanburg SC in 1840 census with their young family.I have not been able to view this census, someone told me about it...I do not have ancestry.com, so would appreciate anyone who has time,..to please copy it off, for me? I hope someone knows her parents and siblings.Also do you know if he married (2) a Sarah____ and came to Alabama? Thanks so much. Regards, Stella

http://www.copies1918.com/edgefield1.html There is a James Coats that died in Edgefield SC any one know anything about him? Char

Dr. Spencer Wells is the project director or head gene guy...he narrates the film Journey of Man ----Original Message Follows---- From: Max Blankfeld <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [DNA] Spencer Wells about Jefferson's Haplogroup Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:26:00 -0500 List, Spencer Wells asked me to bring to you his following remarks related to Jefferson's Haplogroup: "As part of our genetic analyses for the film SEARCH FOR ADAM, we analyzed additional markers on Jefferson's Y-chromosome in an effort to determine why it is so unusual. If you recall the original Hemmings paper in Nature by Foster et al., the haplotype was 'rare', which is what enabled them to implicate Jefferson as the source rather than another European. At the time there were no matches among the 607 European men (Jefferson's father claimed Welsh ancestry) who had been genotyped for the same 11 microsatellites. Recent searches of more comprehensive databases have turned up related haplotypes belonging to haplogroups O, K and Q. We investigated the 12 microsatellites routinely typed by FTDNA, which did not add to the haplogroup resolution. SNP testing, however, revealed that Jefferson's Y is positive for M70, which places him in haplogroup K2. K2 is rare in northern Europe (only one K was found among 1772 British men surveyed by Capelli et al., but it wasn't typed for M70) but quite common in the Middle East and northeast Africa, where it reaches frequencies of 10% or more. Interestingly, another person typed in the film, the Ethiopian prince, is also K2, but many mutational steps removed from Jefferson. We are currently looking at potential source populations for Jefferson's K2 as part of a broader survey of Y-chromosome variation in the Middle East and North Africa, and expect to submit a publication by the end of the year. I'm sure that all of you will appreciate the amount of effort that has gone into launching The Genographic Project, and hope that you will understand that our publication schedule has been somewhat delayed as a result. Spencer Wells Mission Programs National Geographic Society" E-mail me any time! Max Blankfeld Vice-President, Operations and Marketing http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com "History Unearthed Daily" [email protected] 713-868-1438

Well, in my last email, I told you I had sent my mtDNA to National Geographic for their project...I got and sent it in last Friday...but didn't have a chance to view the DVD that came with it...wow! On the DVD is instructions for taking the swab...and... The National Geographic program *The Journey of Man*...I believe it was the same shown on their NG program...wow....Dr. Spencer Wells is the narrator....wow...he travelled all the way to Africa, India and Austrialia to get blood samples for this project.... His findings....we all came from one tribe out of Africa...they had a clicking language of sorts...mix words and clicks I'd say...you might have seen this in another NG program because I had heard of them before...he proves with the Y DNA marker that one branch of this family came from Africa around the Coast through India and into Austrialia...but to prove his theory further he went into India and found the marker that showed they had indeed gone that route... Another branch of this tribe in Africa went into let's see, the middle east, then into Russia...Kurestan...hmmm, I'll have to watch it again to make sure...then from there they went into Europe-France, from there to Sibera and indeed from Sibera into Alaska all during the Ice age...then from Alaska down through Canada to the US and he traced that original group to the Navajo Indians....and then on down into South America.... He has done this all with the Y DNA tests - that Y Chrom goes unchanged from generation to generation and each step of the way, he has found it in various groups through out the world, all coming back to the tribe in Africa!! In these Y tests he looked for specific markers that were present in tests from prior regions...in Austrialia he found the same marker in the aboriginals there as in the tribe in Africa... Amazing...just amazing...it was worth the kit to watch that program......:) So I encourage you, if you are female on this list to participate and if male - likewise - it will give you a deeper understanding of just where you came from.... And remember - we really are all cousins!! Char