That is correct John....:) Although our William and Charles lived in Newberry and William died in Kershaw County, SC, they are a separate group of Coats out of Maryland...I suspect they are all brothers but again no records yet to prove they are brothers or cousins to each other...the info on our group has now gone into MD but we still don't know how Charles in MD was connected and that New England area is still very much under researched...although there has been much speculation on connections, documentation is still very much lacking in that New England area...which is very interesting since, that area has some really really good records...so Charles in MD could very well have come out of any of the surrounding areas...where records are not so forthcoming...In the SC group of brothers and/or cousins in our line, I suspect there is: William, Charles, John, Notley and James...also I do believe Notley may have been the executor on that deed of William's...Notley and Netty could very easily be a mistaken interp for that deed...Netty was thought to be Notley's wife but it makes more sense that Notley was an executor rather than Netty, so that also lends more *documentation* that William of Newberry/Kershaw was a brother to the rest...but like Curt says we still don't know what happened to WIlliam land in MD, no record as of yet has been found that he sold it, we also don't know about the wife's name of Mary in MD and Frances in SC....was she a Mary Frances or was Frances a second wife... Most of the analyses has been centered in SC but it will be records out of that area that will give us some better indications of all these...Frances' dad and my Dad both believed that Rev Will's dad was a James, although I do believe the documentation is good now that Rev Will's father was William of Kings Creek and his mother at least was Frances. I think it was Frances' father or Mrs. Rohwer who thought that James in Georgia was the James in our group and that part of his family went down into Jefferson County GA...I believe the Charles in Jefferson County GA was the Charles from Kelly's Creek in SC, no indication in the records as to what happened to his wife...but he and a James, who I believe was his son could have been James the brother, since I'm not sure what happened to him...James I think gets a land grant in GA about 1784, much later than when William and Charles first show up in SC in 1772/1773 There is also a John Coats, that had land excepted from a Deed to Thomas Coats in SC, this could very well mean he was a son of Thomas although he's not mentioned in any other records...the major problem in this area, is that so many earlier researchers have just assumed that all those of a like name in SC were the same person...and getting out of that old train of thought is not easy....:) So with so much speculation in the records, that makes the DNA results that much more important....:) Y'all have a wonderful Labor Day week end!! Char On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:08 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest > posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was > probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got > from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is > separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke > Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my > James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an > altogether separate group. > > When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map > splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the > Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian > Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been > 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My > guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or > Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for > the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when > I find them. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication tag - that insures they are a tribal citizen Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us

Steve, What can you tell us about John Coats, Sr.? Thanks, Linda Coate On 9/3/2009 7:55 PM, Steve Pearson wrote: > John, > > I used to think my John Coats of Miami Co., OH., who married Martha (Patsey) > Rudy was a Junior to a John Coats Senior, and I still think he may have been > a Jr., however the complete theory was that John Sr married a Susan Brock > supposed daughter of Elias and Ann (Hollingsworth) Brock and that his father > was Gentleman John Coats. I gave up on this theory due to a lack of > evidence that Gentleman John ever had a John that migrated to the Miami > Valley of OH. Also gave up the idea that a Susan Brock ever existed. I have > not seen a family group record of a Susan being a daughter of Elias and Ann > with supporting evidence other than this "theory". With that said, is it > possible this DNA study is reviving this theory of my Coats line once again? > What exactly is the story of this John who was a son of Gentleman John? Can > someone help me out here? I wish my Coats line could be tested but we have > not been able to locate a male Coats of this line that is willing to do so > as of yet. Linda knows my story well. > > Steve Pearson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Coats"<jwcoats@htc.net> > To:<Coates-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:08 AM > Subject: [COATES] Johns > > > >> Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest >> posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was >> probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got >> from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is >> separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke >> Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my >> James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an >> altogether separate group. >> >> When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map >> splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the >> Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian >> Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been >> 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My >> guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or >> Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for >> the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when >> I find them. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.75/2341 - Release Date: 09/02/09 05:50:00 > >

John, I used to think my John Coats of Miami Co., OH., who married Martha (Patsey) Rudy was a Junior to a John Coats Senior, and I still think he may have been a Jr., however the complete theory was that John Sr married a Susan Brock supposed daughter of Elias and Ann (Hollingsworth) Brock and that his father was Gentleman John Coats. I gave up on this theory due to a lack of evidence that Gentleman John ever had a John that migrated to the Miami Valley of OH. Also gave up the idea that a Susan Brock ever existed. I have not seen a family group record of a Susan being a daughter of Elias and Ann with supporting evidence other than this "theory". With that said, is it possible this DNA study is reviving this theory of my Coats line once again? What exactly is the story of this John who was a son of Gentleman John? Can someone help me out here? I wish my Coats line could be tested but we have not been able to locate a male Coats of this line that is willing to do so as of yet. Linda knows my story well. Steve Pearson ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Coats" <jwcoats@htc.net> To: <Coates-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: [COATES] Johns > Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest > posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was > probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got > from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is > separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke > Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my > James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an > altogether separate group. > > When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map > splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the > Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian > Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been > 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My > guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or > Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for > the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when > I find them. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Group, Sorry if I mislead or confused anyone with my latest posts. After looking at some old records, I see that John Sr. was probably the son of John Gentleman Coats. At least that's what I got from Linda Coate. If that is true, then the R1a1 group of Coatses is separate from all those who descended from Gentleman John and Marmaduke Coats. I didn't know John Sr. was a son of John Gent. That means my James Robert, Charlotte's Rev Will, and Buster's Major John were an altogether separate group. When I uploaded our R1a1 results to Nat Geo, they have us on the map splitting off from those who continued up North and West and became the Vikings. The map shows the M-17 group coming Southeast to the Russian Steppes and becoming the Kurgan Culture. Of course that would have been 10,000 years ago. Who knows where they left from to come to the US. My guess is they migrated westward and came from Scotland, England or Ireland. Best Regards, John W. Coats P.S. Linda, I'm still looking for the papers of Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill. I'll send them if and when I find them.

anyone recevied any info on my two people i am still stuck after all this time Linda anything new Stephanie Wright

oh, no, I thought you said you were related to the John sr...I did not recall the info you send sorry... just wondering if he was traced back to Newberry/Kershaw county SC...I'm still looking for info on the John Coats in our group, that may have gone via Logan County KY... To many Johns....:) Char On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:55 PM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > Coats Family History wrote: Charlotte; I sent you the digital > copies of the proof for this line about 3 years ago. It came from Gary > Coates of Whitehall, Ill., who told me that his dad took him to > Edgefield, SC to make copies of the records. He descended from James of > Edgefield who was the son of Gentleman John as proven by wills and > deeds. I think I threw this info away, because it wasn't my line. Gary > Coates was with the 11th Cav in Veitnam and I believe he may be > partially disabled. He works as a night janitor at the grade school and > uses their computer. He is also an itinerant preacher. I paid for his > DNA tests just to prove a point. I thought this was all settled. Some of > his info came from Ancestry.com, but there is no doubt about it, at > least in my mind. You can call info for the 217 area code to get his > number. Good luck. John > > Is this info posted somewhere about this John sr....I'd like to see > > it....can you send me some of the references etc?? > > > > Char > > > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Coats Family History < > > coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hmmm, what history is that??? Posted some where? > >> > >> Char > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Coats Family History wrote: John Coats wrote; Linda has an > extensive > >>> history of this one, due to Court records and I think he had sons in > the > >>> same years as Buster's first documented and my James Robert. Other than > >>> that, the behavior just seems to match some of my relatives and > >>> ancestors. I think his wife's name was Margaret or Katherine. > >>> > lol...which John Coats Sr...oh, sorry, there are just so many > >>> Johns...what > >>> > >>>> was his wife's name?? > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Linda Coate wrote: John Coats wrote: All I know is that I know I > >>>>> didn't descend from him. My latest theory is that James (Buster) > Coats > >>>>> and I both descended from John Coats Sr. whose wife divorced him at a > >>>>> later age. > >>>>> > Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>>> > >>> quotes > >>> > >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>>> > >>> quotes > >>> > >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> > >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> A shameless plug for my web activities: > >> > >> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication > tag - > >> that insures they are a tribal citizen > >> > >> Indian Arts and Craft Act: > >> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > >> > >> Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: > >> http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > >> http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ > >> > >> Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: > >> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > >> > >> Cherokee Artists Association > >> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > >> > >> Coats Archive: > >> http://www.coatsarchive.us > >> > >> Pages Through Time > >> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication tag - that insures they are a tribal citizen Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us

Coats Family History wrote: Charlotte; I sent you the digital copies of the proof for this line about 3 years ago. It came from Gary Coates of Whitehall, Ill., who told me that his dad took him to Edgefield, SC to make copies of the records. He descended from James of Edgefield who was the son of Gentleman John as proven by wills and deeds. I think I threw this info away, because it wasn't my line. Gary Coates was with the 11th Cav in Veitnam and I believe he may be partially disabled. He works as a night janitor at the grade school and uses their computer. He is also an itinerant preacher. I paid for his DNA tests just to prove a point. I thought this was all settled. Some of his info came from Ancestry.com, but there is no doubt about it, at least in my mind. You can call info for the 217 area code to get his number. Good luck. John > Is this info posted somewhere about this John sr....I'd like to see > it....can you send me some of the references etc?? > > Char > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Coats Family History < > coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Hmmm, what history is that??? Posted some where? >> >> Char >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: >> >> >>> Coats Family History wrote: John Coats wrote; Linda has an extensive >>> history of this one, due to Court records and I think he had sons in the >>> same years as Buster's first documented and my James Robert. Other than >>> that, the behavior just seems to match some of my relatives and >>> ancestors. I think his wife's name was Margaret or Katherine. >>> > lol...which John Coats Sr...oh, sorry, there are just so many >>> Johns...what >>> >>>> was his wife's name?? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Linda Coate wrote: John Coats wrote: All I know is that I know I >>>>> didn't descend from him. My latest theory is that James (Buster) Coats >>>>> and I both descended from John Coats Sr. whose wife divorced him at a >>>>> later age. >>>>> > Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> >>> quotes >>> >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> >>> quotes >>> >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> -- >> A shameless plug for my web activities: >> >> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication tag - >> that insures they are a tribal citizen >> >> Indian Arts and Craft Act: >> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >> >> Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: >> http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ >> >> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >> http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ >> >> Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: >> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >> >> Cherokee Artists Association >> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >> >> Coats Archive: >> http://www.coatsarchive.us >> >> Pages Through Time >> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Is this info posted somewhere about this John sr....I'd like to see it....can you send me some of the references etc?? Char On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Coats Family History < coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmmm, what history is that??? Posted some where? > > Char > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > >> Coats Family History wrote: John Coats wrote; Linda has an extensive >> history of this one, due to Court records and I think he had sons in the >> same years as Buster's first documented and my James Robert. Other than >> that, the behavior just seems to match some of my relatives and >> ancestors. I think his wife's name was Margaret or Katherine. >> > lol...which John Coats Sr...oh, sorry, there are just so many >> Johns...what >> > was his wife's name?? >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> Linda Coate wrote: John Coats wrote: All I know is that I know I >> >> didn't descend from him. My latest theory is that James (Buster) Coats >> >> and I both descended from John Coats Sr. whose wife divorced him at a >> >> later age. >> >> > Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from >> >> >> >>> Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> >> >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication tag - > that insures they are a tribal citizen > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: > http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ > > Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Coats Archive: > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > Pages Through Time > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >

Hmmm, what history is that??? Posted some where? Char On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > Coats Family History wrote: John Coats wrote; Linda has an extensive > history of this one, due to Court records and I think he had sons in the > same years as Buster's first documented and my James Robert. Other than > that, the behavior just seems to match some of my relatives and > ancestors. I think his wife's name was Margaret or Katherine. > > lol...which John Coats Sr...oh, sorry, there are just so many > Johns...what > > was his wife's name?? > > > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > > > > > >> Linda Coate wrote: John Coats wrote: All I know is that I know I > >> didn't descend from him. My latest theory is that James (Buster) Coats > >> and I both descended from John Coats Sr. whose wife divorced him at a > >> later age. > >> > Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from > >> > >>> Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> > >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >>> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication tag - that insures they are a tribal citizen Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us

Coats Family History wrote: John Coats wrote; Linda has an extensive history of this one, due to Court records and I think he had sons in the same years as Buster's first documented and my James Robert. Other than that, the behavior just seems to match some of my relatives and ancestors. I think his wife's name was Margaret or Katherine. > lol...which John Coats Sr...oh, sorry, there are just so many Johns...what > was his wife's name?? > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > > >> Linda Coate wrote: John Coats wrote: All I know is that I know I >> didn't descend from him. My latest theory is that James (Buster) Coats >> and I both descended from John Coats Sr. whose wife divorced him at a >> later age. >> > Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from >> >>> Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

lol...which John Coats Sr...oh, sorry, there are just so many Johns...what was his wife's name?? On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > Linda Coate wrote: John Coats wrote: All I know is that I know I > didn't descend from him. My latest theory is that James (Buster) Coats > and I both descended from John Coats Sr. whose wife divorced him at a > later age. > > Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from > > Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate

Linda Coate wrote: John Coats wrote: All I know is that I know I didn't descend from him. My latest theory is that James (Buster) Coats and I both descended from John Coats Sr. whose wife divorced him at a later age. > Does anyone on this lists susupect or know that they descend from > Gentleman John? Thanks, Linda Coate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Since many Coates families tie into this line (particularly those out of the Miami Co. OH area), I wanted to pass this along. Back in April 2009 the Jay Family Association (JFA) published an article to its membership pertaining to the following.... "DNA has now confirmed that Thomas JOY of Hingham, Massachusetts is not an immigrant ancestor to the JAY family in America." This article has now been moved and posted on the public section of the JFA website at www.jayfamily.org. There is a link in the menu at left that will take you directly to the article. If you have additional questions you may email me directly. In addition, the Jay family DNA project and other related family genealogy will be discussed at length at the annual Jay Family Reunion scheduled for October 16-17, 2009 in Troy, OH. The reunion is FREE to all interested...we have several cemetery trips and genealogy presentations slated. More info is available on the gathering at www.jayfamily.org. Come and meet your cousins and have a great time. You won't be disappointed. Vince King Immediate Past-President Jay Family Association entech.design@verizon.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I noticed an error below. The 2nd neat find we have in our new DNA evidence is that the William of HALIFAX CO., VA now has a cousin match. Sorry about that. :) Linda Coate, admin. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [COATES] Coollll Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:33:48 -0400 From: Linda Coate <lcoate@ancestrees.com> Reply-To: coates@rootsweb.com To: Coates-L@rootsweb.com We have new DNA test results in and up with some useful results. We have another member matching the Robert Coats, b. Yorkshire, Eng in 1627 and died in Lynn Massachusetts group. All 3 of these members have believed they are tracing their lines back to Robert Coats and all of them have matching DNA - so DNA evidence is supporting their theory. We also now have a a cousin grouping for William Coates of Lynn, Massachusetts so those of you who don't have matches yet, take heart! We also have a new Tennessee Coates group that has come into the radar too. These new results are up at http://www.ancestrees.com/dna/family.html. ENJOY! Linda Coate, admin. P.S. Take a minute to look at this page and see if your results and links are still exactly the way you want them. You are always welcome to submit new or updated information to go with your kit number. It can be a summary of your lineage (showing no living persons) and the main sources used per generation or it can be as simple as your email address. If you've proved your lineage further back, please always let me know that so we can relabel the kit's oldest ancestor and get those updated sources and generations in. Thanks much! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We have new DNA test results in and up with some useful results. We have another member matching the Robert Coats, b. Yorkshire, Eng in 1627 and died in Lynn Massachusetts group. All 3 of these members have believed they are tracing their lines back to Robert Coats and all of them have matching DNA - so DNA evidence is supporting their theory. We also now have a a cousin grouping for William Coates of Lynn, Massachusetts so those of you who don't have matches yet, take heart! We also have a new Tennessee Coates group that has come into the radar too. These new results are up at http://www.ancestrees.com/dna/family.html. ENJOY! Linda Coate, admin. P.S. Take a minute to look at this page and see if your results and links are still exactly the way you want them. You are always welcome to submit new or updated information to go with your kit number. It can be a summary of your lineage (showing no living persons) and the main sources used per generation or it can be as simple as your email address. If you've proved your lineage further back, please always let me know that so we can relabel the kit's oldest ancestor and get those updated sources and generations in. Thanks much!

That would be great. My address is Linda Coate, 5332 Ruth Amy Ave., Westerville, OH 43081 On 8/7/2009 1:52 AM, edmonstar@aol.com wrote: > hi? linda, i don't have my notes in front of me, but there are 15 well documented children of rev. william coats, including the original family bible pages that i have from my parents research in rev. will. handwriting, which is quite charming and loopy and really nice to read,? i have a great copy that i traced with pencil to enhance the detail, i will snail mail it to you if you want to send me your snail address by sending me a note, via my home email outside of the ring, to edmonstar@aol.com.? i think there is a john in there , i don't have my notes in front of me, i'll be back in `10 days.? cousin frances > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Coate<lcoate@ancestrees.com> > To: coates@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 3:56 pm > Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats > > > > > > > > > > > Frances, I don't have a son named John listed as Rev. William's son. > I'd love to know more about your father's notes on that. Thanks, > Linda Coate > On 8/6/2009 1:48 AM, edmonstar@aol.com wrote: > >> dear charlotte hi? i think you are thinking of the earlier william who >> > married frances.? i don't think we know anything about these daughters, ann and > priscilla ???? i would love some information on them since this seem to be a big > blank. ?? this rachael who married robert read, (sometimes spelled reed) is? > from rev. william coats born ab. 1754, married nancy coats, who had 8 daughters > and the rest sons, total 15 children.? rachael was born 1797.? anyway, i found > some old notes from you re: wondering about lee and claude coats.? i don't know > if you found about about them.? i have A LOT of information about them because > daisy bannerman coats, before she died gave my parents sooooooooooo much > information and lots and lots of pictures, some are not identified.? i'll get > those to you some day and see what you think.? anyway,? rev. william coats, son > John b. Coats 1800, son Thomas Henley Coats, had Lee Beauregard Coats who > married Daisy Bannerman (3rd wife) and they had Lee B! > ann! > >> erman Coats, and Claude Dixon coats, lee b. 1911, claude b. 1913.?? i have >> > pictures and lots more data to come.? anyway, that was an old question.??? i > have some old stuff in my fathers file with no names that i recognize, i'm going > to snail mail it.? if you have trouble with the handwriting, let me know, i know > my father's writing well, these are his notes.? also, a while ago, i asked you > about getting a copy of "my coats Family written 1989 by Neva Coats staples.? > and that there was microfilm available ?? or was that curt?? i would LOVE? to > get a realy hard copy of this if i could and i would be happy to pay for the > xerox costs if that is possible???? also, i'm looking for a wilson coats who was > born, according to an 1850 censusu of polk co, missouri in 1810.? i have his > children about 6 and they don't match anyone i recognize.? ?any ideas.? ???? > >> dear curt, you asked me some time ago re: grover coats and where he was a >> > policeman.? he was a policeman in san francisco until he retired from the force > and after that moved to beverly hills, cal.? i may have some more information in > my "binders" but maybe not.? i didn't remember anything about a divorce.? his > middle name was cleveland.? anyway, these are old notes.? i'm trying to catch > up.? also, in an old letter, you asked about where william preston coats, m. to > maud shreve was buried.? i'll look that up too if you still need it.? he is a > son of john russell coats and maude shreve is indeed listed as his wife.? so > that is it for now,? frances e.? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: edmonstar@aol.com >> To: coates@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 9:56 pm >> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> hi? i have stuff on all the children, i think there were only two who didn't >> make it to adulthood, i have it all downstairs, i'll go find it and email you >> back.? frances e. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Coats Family History<coats.genealogy@gmail.com> >> To: coates@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 7:10 am >> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Oh, Frances....:) hmmm, Rev Will only had let's see two daughters, Ann who >> married a William Stark(e), they also went to Logan County KY if I recall >> correctly and Priscilla, who we have no info on...what's the date of this >> will? >> >> Char >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM,<edmonstar@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> hi? i would love to know also.? my on going sifting through my parents >>> research is amazing.? i? just found ANOTHER four shopping bags full of >>> papers.? eeeek.? i found the will of robert read who married rachael coats, >>> dau of rev. William.? there was apparently a son who died before his father >>> did, because in the will, he mentions his grandson, Charles C. Read.? no >>> other children apparently.? little bits and pieces here and there.? frances >>> e. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Coats Family History<coats.genealogy@gmail.com> >>> To: coates@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:07 am >>> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Ben, I would likewise be most interested in what you have that connects >>> Frances' line (Rev William Coats wife Nancy or Charles Coats wife Sophia) >>> to >>> Thomas and Sarah Coats? >>> >>> Char >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ben Coate<bencoate@nccn.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have some of this line in my data base. From Thomas Coats& Sarah >>>> >>>> >>> Cramer >>> >>> >>>> to Charles Ninian Edmonston Sr& Vivian Coats. Would be interested in >>>> >>>> >>> any >>> >>> >>>> additional information that you care to share. >>>> >>>> Ben Coate >>>> bencoate@nccn.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: coates-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:coates-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>> >>>> >>> On >>> >>> >>>> Behalf Of John Coats >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:15 AM >>>> To: coates@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >>>> >>>> edmonstar@aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> hi? my mother was vivian coats, dau of james longstreet coats, of >>>>> >>>>> >>> felix >>> >>> >>>> coats, of wilson coats, of rev. william coats, etc., Charlotte's line.? i >>>> have some old notes from my father's original research of the newberry, >>>> south carolina coates, coate, coats.? the funny thing about that area was >>>> that there were about 5 john coates, or coats, sometimes the spelling was >>>> different on different documents, there was gentleman john, little john, >>>> big >>>> john, etc.? which they themselves used to distinguish themselves from >>>> >>>> >>> each >>> >>> >>>> other.? anyway, when i get some of this other mess sorted out, i will >>>> >>>> >>> send >>> >>> >>>> it to Charlotte.? my father did original research in the old archives and >>>> found, and hand copied (since there were not copiers) the wills and land >>>> purchases.? it is very confusing since i'm not very familiar with any >>>> coates/coats stuff prior to the father of rev. william coats.? anyway, >>>> >>>> >>> i'll >>> >>> >>>> keep everyone posted, frances edmonston >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Linda Coate<lcoate@ancestrees.com> >>>>> To: coates@rootsweb.com >>>>> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44 am >>>>> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cool. Was your mother a Coates? Linda >>>>> On 7/29/2009 5:53 PM, edmonstar@aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> hi? i did have that information, a summary, but not the entire >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> history.? >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> wow.? anyway, i'm working my way through the coats that i have, my >>>>> >>>>> >>> father >>> >>> >>>> had >>>> >>>> >>>>> soooooooo many notes, handwritten by my father, charles Ninian >>>>> >>>>> >>> Edmonston, >>> >>> >>>> many >>>> >>>> >>>>> duplicates.? anyway, whenever i get it all done, i'll be able to copy >>>>> >>>>> >>>> into >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> gedcom format and away we go!!? frances edmonston >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Coats Family History<coats.genealogy@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: coates@rootsweb.com; coate<coate@rootsweb.com>; >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Coats<coats@rootsweb.com>; >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Coats list yahoo<Coates_Coate_Coats@yahoogroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 6:03 am >>>>>> Subject: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, some new info...thought you all might be interested in...the story >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> that >>>> >>>> >>>>>> came down in my family was that Lem had died in New Mexico and was >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> killed >>>> by >>>> >>>> >>>>>> lightning...stories will be stories....:) >>>>>> >>>>>> Char >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Wayne and Sharon Johnson<johnsonwe@embarqmail.com> >>>>>> Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM >>>>>> Subject: Lemuel Coats >>>>>> To: coats.genealogy@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tuesday, July 28, 2009 >>>>>> >>>>>> Reference: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3148096&id=I115 >>> >>> >>>>>> 2nd Reference: http://www.callawegian.org/content28.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Charlotte, >>>>>> >>>>>> As a matter of note, I just put up a story on the death of Lemuel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Coats >>>> >>>> >>>>>> and the Maddox Brothers in the shooting at Portland. These came to me >>>>>> through a friend who is a Maddox descendant. Thought that you might >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> be >>> >>> >>>>>> interested in these pieces of the puzzle. I couldn't help but wonder >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> if >>> >>> >>>> you >>>> >>>> >>>>>> might not have any additional information or possibly photos of the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> men >>> >>> >>>>>> involved? I know that it is too much to ask for; but if you don't >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ask, >>> >>> >>>>>> there is not a prayer of receiving. Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Wayne Johnson >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> >>>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> body of >>>> >>>> >>>>>> the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>>>> >>>>> >>>> body >>>> of >>>> >>>> >>>>> the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2270 - Release Date: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> 07/29/09 >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> 06:12:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >>>>> >>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>>>> >>>>> >>>> body >>>> of >>>> >>>> >>>>> the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >>>>> >>>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> >>>> >>> quotes >>> >>> >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>>> If Frances would just have a live male Coats descendent of Lemuel, who >>>>> >>>>> >>>> would take the DNA test, that would help to clear things up a bit. DNA is >>>> the only way we are eventually separate all these Johns. 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Yes, I thought there was an Alexander in the DNA project....:) The research I referenced before and the Marm group may already have it, is by a Mrs. K.S. Rohwer, titled *The Coate Families of Newberry South Carolina*, most of the documents we have from her research and most of her research references others, with some will and deed references...she also states that Charles died in SC and the Ann there later is his wife; but I don't think that is supported at least by the records we have...as I recall or her research states, she was a widow and there are no Estate Records for Charles in SC and he would have died at a time when they were keeping records...so that is why I believe they moved out of SC....but like all the rest that is speculation....she tries to sort out the John's but there are even more Johns there than she has....:) Char On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Linda Coate <lcoate@ancestrees.com> wrote: > We have an Alexander Coates, b. 1803 in the 1st group at the top of the > list. Is that who you meant? Linda > On 8/5/2009 10:06 AM, Coats Family History wrote: > > FYI...this is probably old research she's found of mine, 2001, hmmm, > looks > > more like it was from the list info...but thought I'd pass this along, > > ...hmmm, don't we have a DNA group for this John Alexander Coats? > > > > Char > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From:<EllnMarcus@aol.com> > > Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:22 PM > > Subject: Coats and Bennett family genealogy > > To: coats.genealogy@gmail.com > > > > > > Dear Charlotte, > > > > I found information online that you'd provided to John Coats back in 2001 > on > > RootsWeb. > > RootsWeb: COATES-L Re: [COATES-L] Fw: John Alexander > > Coats<http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/COATES/2001-09/1001643486 > > > > . Your old email was AbileneFlash@aol.com. That address no longer > works, > > but upon further investigation, I found what I hope is you at your new > email > > address. > > I've been looking for any children of William Bennett and Mary > Amundsen > > for years now, and your info led me to Wm Jennings BRYAN Bennett who > married > > Alta Lee Coats abt 1920 --thanks so much! Is there any chance you are in > > contact with Bennetts who know anything about the Bennett history? If > so, I > > would love to pick their brains--the family is very small. Bryan > > Bennett (b. 1896) was the son of William Bennett (birth date unknown) > > and Mary Jane Amundsen (b.1864). My great-grandfather was Sam Bennett > > (Bill's brother), and my great-grandmother was Louisa Amundsen (Mary > Jane's > > sister). Two brothers married two sisters. > > > > Here is a picture of Bryan's parents, Bill and Mary Bennett. My > grandmother > > told me her uncle Bill was a veterinarian in New Orleans; he died > young--in > > his late 30's. Mary must have died in her 40's, since on his WWI draft > > registration, Bryan names his uncle (my grandmother's father) Sam Bennett > of > > W. Monroe, LA as his closest relative. > > > > > > Thanks again for posting Alta Lee's and Bryan's children's names. I NEVER > > would have found them on my own. I put your Coats info on my tree on > > ancestry.com. I'll happily send you an official invite to my tree if > you'd > > like. I hope to hear from you...Ellen Marcus (originally from Texas, but > now > > in New York City) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.44/2283 - Release Date: > 08/05/09 05:57:00 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication tag - that insures they are a tribal citizen Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us

I don't know of any in my line that went to TX early on either...although like I say, William Coats and Patsy had a lot of kids who we've lost track of other than their names but that would be mid 1800s... So again...we need those Male Coats DNA tests....:) Char On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: > I wouldn't forward that e-mail to anyone. The John Alexander related to > our line was John Alexander Coats, son of James Robert Coats. He moved > to Texas sometime in the 1870's. They stopped for a while in Coryell > Co., just south of Waco, as this was, at the time, the edge of Indian > Territory. Then they moved on to Cottonwood, Callahan Co., Tx a little > later. He was a commissioner of Callahan Co., in the 1880s. Some > Griffins of Issaquena Co. Ms.also located there. I had the whole history > of this family, but unfortunately discarded some. John A. had a lot of > sons, a George Washington, and a Leonard. Leonard died sometime in the > late 1990's. Most are buried there at Cottonwood. This is a different > family than the one you are talking about. John W. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - look for the Cherokee Authentication tag - that insures they are a tribal citizen Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Freedmen vs Cherokee Nation: http://freedmenvscherokeenation.blogspot.com/ Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ Cherokee Basket Weaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us

The only kids that I don't have good records on are William Coats and Patsy's kids, those are the kids by his first wife and I belive at least one of them was named William as well...my Huff D. Coats was a son by his second wife William as was a John H. Coats who I believe I've found buried in Oklahoma and who might be the John H. Coats in the Indian records here...but not had time to do any further looking on him... Char On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Coats Family History < coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, Rev Will had a son named John, documented in Wilson, his brother's > bible record of the family and numerous documents in Callaway County both > land and estate records and we have a decendant of his on the list...:) > > Char > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Linda Coate <lcoate@ancestrees.com>wrote: > >> Frances, I don't have a son named John listed as Rev. William's son. >> I'd love to know more about your father's notes on that. Thanks, >> Linda Coate >> On 8/6/2009 1:48 AM, edmonstar@aol.com wrote: >> > dear charlotte hi? i think you are thinking of the earlier william who >> married frances.? i don't think we know anything about these daughters, ann >> and priscilla ???? i would love some information on them since this seem to >> be a big blank. ?? this rachael who married robert read, (sometimes spelled >> reed) is? from rev. william coats born ab. 1754, married nancy coats, who >> had 8 daughters and the rest sons, total 15 children.? rachael was born >> 1797.? anyway, i found some old notes from you re: wondering about lee and >> claude coats.? i don't know if you found about about them.? i have A LOT of >> information about them because daisy bannerman coats, before she died gave >> my parents sooooooooooo much information and lots and lots of pictures, some >> are not identified.? i'll get those to you some day and see what you think.? >> anyway,? rev. william coats, son John b. Coats 1800, son Thomas Henley >> Coats, had Lee Beauregard Coats who married Daisy Bannerman (3rd wife) and >> they had Lee B! >> ann! >> > erman Coats, and Claude Dixon coats, lee b. 1911, claude b. 1913.?? i >> have pictures and lots more data to come.? anyway, that was an old >> question.??? i have some old stuff in my fathers file with no names that i >> recognize, i'm going to snail mail it.? if you have trouble with the >> handwriting, let me know, i know my father's writing well, these are his >> notes.? also, a while ago, i asked you about getting a copy of "my coats >> Family written 1989 by Neva Coats staples.? and that there was microfilm >> available ?? or was that curt?? i would LOVE? to get a realy hard copy of >> this if i could and i would be happy to pay for the xerox costs if that is >> possible???? also, i'm looking for a wilson coats who was born, according to >> an 1850 censusu of polk co, missouri in 1810.? i have his children about 6 >> and they don't match anyone i recognize.? ?any ideas.? ???? >> > >> > dear curt, you asked me some time ago re: grover coats and where he was >> a policeman.? he was a policeman in san francisco until he retired from the >> force and after that moved to beverly hills, cal.? i may have some more >> information in my "binders" but maybe not.? i didn't remember anything about >> a divorce.? his middle name was cleveland.? anyway, these are old notes.? >> i'm trying to catch up.? also, in an old letter, you asked about where >> william preston coats, m. to maud shreve was buried.? i'll look that up too >> if you still need it.? he is a son of john russell coats and maude shreve is >> indeed listed as his wife.? so that is it for now,? frances e.? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: edmonstar@aol.com >> > To: coates@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 9:56 pm >> > Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > hi? i have stuff on all the children, i think there were only two who >> didn't >> > make it to adulthood, i have it all downstairs, i'll go find it and >> email you >> > back.? frances e. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Coats Family History<coats.genealogy@gmail.com> >> > To: coates@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 7:10 am >> > Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Oh, Frances....:) hmmm, Rev Will only had let's see two daughters, Ann >> who >> > married a William Stark(e), they also went to Logan County KY if I >> recall >> > correctly and Priscilla, who we have no info on...what's the date of >> this >> > will? >> > >> > Char >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM,<edmonstar@aol.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> hi? i would love to know also.? my on going sifting through my >> parents >> >> research is amazing.? i? just found ANOTHER four shopping bags full of >> >> papers.? eeeek.? i found the will of robert read who married rachael >> coats, >> >> dau of rev. William.? there was apparently a son who died before his >> father >> >> did, because in the will, he mentions his grandson, Charles C. Read.? >> no >> >> other children apparently.? little bits and pieces here and there.? >> frances >> >> e. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Coats Family History<coats.genealogy@gmail.com> >> >> To: coates@rootsweb.com >> >> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:07 am >> >> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Ben, I would likewise be most interested in what you have that >> connects >> >> Frances' line (Rev William Coats wife Nancy or Charles Coats wife >> Sophia) >> >> to >> >> Thomas and Sarah Coats? >> >> >> >> Char >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ben Coate<bencoate@nccn.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> I have some of this line in my data base. From Thomas Coats& Sarah >> >>> >> >> Cramer >> >> >> >>> to Charles Ninian Edmonston Sr& Vivian Coats. Would be interested in >> >>> >> >> any >> >> >> >>> additional information that you care to share. >> >>> >> >>> Ben Coate >> >>> bencoate@nccn.net >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: coates-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:coates-bounces@rootsweb.com >> ] >> >>> >> >> On >> >> >> >>> Behalf Of John Coats >> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:15 AM >> >>> To: coates@rootsweb.com >> >>> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> >>> >> >>> edmonstar@aol.com wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> hi? my mother was vivian coats, dau of james longstreet coats, of >> >>>> >> >> felix >> >> >> >>> coats, of wilson coats, of rev. william coats, etc., Charlotte's >> line.? i >> >>> have some old notes from my father's original research of the >> newberry, >> >>> south carolina coates, coate, coats.? the funny thing about that area >> was >> >>> that there were about 5 john coates, or coats, sometimes the spelling >> was >> >>> different on different documents, there was gentleman john, little >> john, >> >>> big >> >>> john, etc.? which they themselves used to distinguish themselves from >> >>> >> >> each >> >> >> >>> other.? anyway, when i get some of this other mess sorted out, i will >> >>> >> >> send >> >> >> >>> it to Charlotte.? my father did original research in the old archives >> and >> >>> found, and hand copied (since there were not copiers) the wills and >> land >> >>> purchases.? it is very confusing since i'm not very familiar with any >> >>> coates/coats stuff prior to the father of rev. william coats.? anyway, >> >>> >> >> i'll >> >> >> >>> keep everyone posted, frances edmonston >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: Linda Coate<lcoate@ancestrees.com> >> >>>> To: coates@rootsweb.com >> >>>> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 6:44 am >> >>>> Subject: Re: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Cool. Was your mother a Coates? Linda >> >>>> On 7/29/2009 5:53 PM, edmonstar@aol.com wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> hi? i did have that information, a summary, but not the entire >> >>>>> >> >>> history.? >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> wow.? anyway, i'm working my way through the coats that i have, my >> >>>> >> >> father >> >> >> >>> had >> >>> >> >>>> soooooooo many notes, handwritten by my father, charles Ninian >> >>>> >> >> Edmonston, >> >> >> >>> many >> >>> >> >>>> duplicates.? anyway, whenever i get it all done, i'll be able to copy >> >>>> >> >>> into >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> gedcom format and away we go!!? frances edmonston >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>> From: Coats Family History<coats.genealogy@gmail.com> >> >>>>> To: coates@rootsweb.com; coate<coate@rootsweb.com>; >> >>>>> >> >>> Coats<coats@rootsweb.com>; >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> Coats list yahoo<Coates_Coate_Coats@yahoogroups.com> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 6:03 am >> >>>>> Subject: [COATES] Fwd: Lemuel Coats >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Oh, some new info...thought you all might be interested in...the >> story >> >>>>> >> >>> that >> >>> >> >>>>> came down in my family was that Lem had died in New Mexico and was >> >>>>> >> >>> killed >> >>> by >> >>> >> >>>>> lightning...stories will be stories....:) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Char >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>>>> From: Wayne and Sharon Johnson<johnsonwe@embarqmail.com> >> >>>>> Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM >> >>>>> Subject: Lemuel Coats >> >>>>> To: coats.genealogy@gmail.com >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Tuesday, July 28, 2009 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Reference: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3148096&id=I115 >> >> >> >>>>> 2nd Reference: http://www.callawegian.org/content28.html >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Dear Charlotte, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> As a matter of note, I just put up a story on the death of >> Lemuel >> >>>>> >> >>> Coats >> >>> >> >>>>> and the Maddox Brothers in the shooting at Portland. These came to >> me >> >>>>> through a friend who is a Maddox descendant. Thought that you might >> >>>>> >> >> be >> >> >> >>>>> interested in these pieces of the puzzle. I couldn't help but >> wonder >> >>>>> >> >> if >> >> >> >>> you >> >>> >> >>>>> might not have any additional information or possibly photos of the >> >>>>> >> >> men >> >> >> >>>>> involved? I know that it is too much to ask for; but if you don't >> >>>>> >> >> ask, >> >> >> >>>>> there is not a prayer of receiving. Thanks. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sincerely yours, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Wayne Johnson >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>>> >> >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com >> >>> >> >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the >> >>>>> >> >>> body of >> >>> >> >>>>> the message >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>>> >> >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> >>>> >> >>> body >> >>> of >> >>> >> >>>> the message >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >>>>> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2270 - Release Date: >> >>>>> >> >>> 07/29/09 >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> 06:12:00 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> >> >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com >> >>> >> >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> >>>> >> >>> body >> >>> of >> >>> >> >>>> the message >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> >> >>> COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> >> >> quotes >> >> >> >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>>> If Frances would just have a live male Coats descendent of Lemuel, >> who >> >>>> >> >>> would take the DNA test, that would help to clear things up a bit. DNA >> is >> >>> the only way we are eventually separate all these Johns. 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