Well, when I can't sleep at night it's because I'm trying to piece this family together...<g>... But I was thinking .... that area of KY where the William Coats signs the petition to the VA Assembly was VA prior to 1790... I'm thinking this William Coats is the same William Coats that shows up in Summer County or Davidson County TN with the Rev Pension Records married to Susan Dismark...their son Austin... There appear to be two William Coats who fought in the Rev from VA...one died in VA and I believe the William in TN that his pension records state he fought in VA as well.... So I'm thinking we might have found the William Coats of KY, who petitions the VA Assembly but then later moves to TN...perhaps this is why we can't find a record of him in KY...he might also have a brother Henry or son Henry... Comments? Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

FYI...Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ernie Davis <ernie@surflifesaving.com.au> To: wendyborl@hotmail.com, LIZZHAMM@aol.com, coats@lawyer4u.com, malee@lineone.net, lmck_6@hotmail.com, rosgrah@acay.com.au Subject: Coates Family Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 18:37:02 +1000 Dear Researchers, I am researching my paternal side in particular an Isabella COATES born about 1847 in Newcastle Upon Tyne. Her father was John Coates, born abt 1820 place unknown. Isabella married on 17 Dec 1864 in Crook, Durham to John RYLATT who was born about 1845. We suspect that RYLATT came from Lincoln. But we are not sure, being marr. in Durham he may have come from there. They had John 1867, James 1869, Mary 31 Oct 1878, Donald 1893, Is This your family line? Regards Ernie Davis ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi All: Got this @ the Ancestry.com site. It's free to all until 5/14. Have fun! <A HREF="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=txmarr1871&gs=Coats&query= Coats&submit=Search&DatabaseID=4325&Title=Texas+Marriages%2C+1851-1900&Databas eName=txmarr1871&SearchEngine=sse.dll&Server=search&Type=F">Ancestry.com - Individual Database Search Results</A> http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4325.htm Search Results Search Terms: COATS (14) Database: Texas Marriages, 1851-1900 Combined Matches: 14 Next Hits Given Name Surname Given Name Spouse Surname Spouse Married Marriage Date County State J. D. COATS OLLIE HAWKINS MD 07 Oct 1884 RAIN TX A. J. RICHEY J. A. [Mrs] COATS MD 12 Aug 1886 RAIN TX J. M. PICKINS LYDIA [Mrs] COATS MD 12 May 1889 RAIN TX JOHN JENETT BETTIE COATS MD 26 Jun 1890 RAIN TX S. T. WILSON LORENA COATS MD 06 Mar 1898 RAIN TX ROBERT COATS DOLLIE BRAZIEL MD 04 Sep 1898 RAIN TX A. H. BLADES EMMA COATS MD 02/01/1889 HUNT TX ROBERT BLALOCK LOU COATS MD 18/01/1872 HUNT TX J. M. COATS BESSIE BROWN MD 18/07/1892 HUNT TX O. P. COATS ABBIE TAYLOR MD 10/07/1881 HUNT TX R. M. COATS ODA TAYLOR MD 17/07/1892 HUNT TX WAKE COATS FANNIE STRANGE MD 02/04/1894 HUNT TX S. A. GREER M. F. COATS MD 11/10/1885 HUNT TX WILLIAM RATLIFF MATTIE COATS MD 16/09/1878 HUNT TX

I got the deed index on the wrong page...it's on the SC page rather than NC...so if you find in the future it's not on the SC page check the NC page...<g>... http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/scresearch2.htm This is just the index for A, B, C on the handwritten records... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

The Baker records are up at: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/north.htm I was noticing that Obadiah Baker did have a deed there as early as 1778 and it appears to be in a different place via land description than the later land records... So, there should be some reference to Coats... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Just some other observations on these records...Sylvester's wife's name is Mary in these records...I'm wondering if that might be where Rev Will and Nancy got the name for their first daughter Mary... Obadiah's wife's name is Patience...that sure sounds like a Puritan name... All have signed with marks... Also there is an index to the handwritten records...also handwritten...I copied the A, B and C's....there is a William Cole in this group and a Job Cole...in the typed records there was also a William Temple Cole, junior and senior and I think another Cole don't recall the first name off hand...there is no index to the typed records... There are also Younger's in these records... Soooooo.... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Well, I not only found the Baker deeds..one for Obadiah and one for Sylvster but I also found the grant for each when they got grants for the land from the State of NC...interesting...seems like the grants were like in 1783/4 and then they sold the land shortly thereafter... What I'm thinking is they must have lived on the land for quite some time before they got grants to it and/or lived elsewhere in Rowan County although I haven't found any other deeds for them...they are adjoining land owners on Hunting Creek..... These two microfilm are rather interesting...they both seem to cover the same time periods...but one is typed and the other handwritten...and it almost appears as though they are a duplicate of each other but there aren't any Bakers in the typed version...also found a Benjamin and Peter Baker there... But a glaring fact is: I haven't found any Coate, Coates, Coats yet...I haven't read over all the deeds yet to see who adjoining land owners are but that John Boone shows up in these records as well...I just can't figure that out...unless, the Coats lived there and left prior to the state granting the land...i.e. which means there would be no record of it...these deeds though have been early enough I think some were in 1750s, to at least have shown a Coats if any as adjoining land owners...but I see nothing yet of a Coats...even Benjamin that we know was in Iredale or is that Iredell County NC, which was once Rowan.... But still lots to look at in NC...as in all the surrounding counties...<g>.... Will, get these scanned asap so you can see them...the handwritten records seem to have the state grant for the land and then any deeds follow that, then a few more state grants and then more deeds...also some bill of sale for cattle in here...tells about the brands on the horses and cows etc...really interesting reading... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

FYI...Char ---- Begin Included Message ---- From: Patrick Bowman <bowmanpj@erols.com> Sent: Mon, 01 May 2000 19:26:28 -0400 To: charlotte.coats@coatsarchive.zzn.com Subject: Coates Genelogy To whom it may concern, I recently have had the pleasure of purchasing a book owned by a "Louella M. Coates who married a William D. Shivery in 1885 in Coatesville, PA.  A few years later they had two sons the first being Samuel Norwood Shivery and the second son Dalmer Cherrington Shivery. I have searched for their names in the Coates genelogy but had no luck. Do you reconize these names? Are they part of your family history? I would be most grateful if you have any information on the people listed above that could solve my mystery. Sincerely, Veronica Bowman ---- End Included Message ---- Get your Free E-mail at http://CoatsArchive.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your 100MB FREE Internet storage! Sign up now - http://www.netdrive.com/?ao=zzn

Here are a few other bits of info on these three-- still don't know how they might be related (if at all), but it sure looks promising. That an Elijah Coates is in Wilkinson Co, MS just about the same time as Austin is noteworthy. Looks like I'll need to make a trip to the archives in Jackson, MS and really pore over the Wilkinson Co records. **** 1800 Winton (Barnwell) Co, SC Tax List p2 Elijah Coats 252 ac, 0 negroes (Benjamin Hickman on same page, John and Thomas Hickman on p8) 1816 Mississippi Territorial Census Coats, Elijah, Wilkinson Co. Coats, Polydore, Pike Co. [this is Pollard] An Elisha Coats is listed on a petition from the Mississippi Territory (Terr Papers of the U.S., v4, Mississippi Terr., pp501-505) 1819 Wilkinson Co, MS Tax Roll Coats, Austin 120 ac, valued $97.50, on Buffalo [Creek?], 1 white poll *** Justin M. Sanders "I shot an arrow into the air. It fell Dept. of Physics to earth I know not where." --Henry Univ. of South Alabama Wadsworth Longfellow confessing jsanders@jaguar1.usouthal.edu to a sad ignorance of ballistics.

Justin...all we can do is agree or disagree ...<g>...all these little scraps add up....Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Justin M. Sanders" <jsanders@jaguar1.usouthal.edu> To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [COATES-L] Elijah and Pollard Coates Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:59:53 -0500 (CDT) I've been a reader of this list for a couple of years, and never have worked up the gumption to post on Pollard Hickman Coates, but since there seem to be a few others who might be interested, I'll toss out my few scraps of information. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Is this Austin Marion Coates? If so, didn't he marry a Margaret Coons about 1817. Maybe this is the unknown Margaret Coates that was mentioned? How do you think Austin and Pollard Hickman Coates are related? At 02:25 PM 5/2/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Justin , >Thank you so much for sending the information on Pollard Hickman Coates. >Austin Coates is my 3x ggrandfather. >His oldest son is Joseph Pollard Coates and youngest is William Elijah >Coates. > You have really opened helped me with your comments. > >Thanks Robbie. > > >==== COATES Mailing List ==== >Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: >http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar

I am looking for help in trying to locate any siblings of my grandfather. His name was Arthur Coates and he married Annie Thompson. His dates are b. Nov 2, 1896, d. Jan. 9, 1966 In Mass. Annie's dates are: b. Aug 22, 1899 d. Sept 9, 1987 in Martinez CA. Any help would be great. Thank you. Pat pat@directcon.net

I just discovered that I have no Henry in my database in SC that fits this description. Does anyone know who this Justice Henry Coate belongs too? At 07:15 PM 5/1/2000 -0700, you wrote: >It has a date of 1823, November 24....Linda this book also has some tax >lists in it and infor as to when JP served etc...they show Henry Coate as >a Justice from 1807-1830 and then a Henry Coate listed as a Commissioner >to Approve Public Securities in 1829 but he resigns...he also served in >this capacity in 1815... > >I'm going to scan these lists and put them on the SC research page as >well...just takes some time here...<g>... > >Char > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Linda J. Dudick" <LDudick@Ancestrees.com> >To: "Charlotte *" <coats@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Notes on Marm's map of Newberry Courthouse >Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 20:00:42 -0400 > >When was this map made? >At 07:42 AM 4/25/2000 -0700, you wrote: >>I'm just making some observations on the little map Marm did of the public >>square around the courthouse: >> >>He shows a Henry Coate, Esq. as owning land and a Henry Coates with >>land...the significance here could be that there are two Henry's owning >>land here....one spelled Coate and an Esq. and the other spelling is >>Coates...Marmaduke has spelled his own name Coate....as a surveyor and a >>member of the Coate family, he would know the significance of >>detail....and this could show that these two Henry's are from different >>families but they certainly knew each other... >> >>Char >>________________________________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >>==== COATES Mailing List ==== >>Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: >>http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >

Hmmm, I thought the Esq was Captain Henry Coats married to the Long sisters...Esq. would imply he was an attorney...but it appears he was a Justice till 1830...didn't a Henry die in 1828... Boy, it just gets worse doesn't it...<g>... Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Linda J. Dudick" <LDudick@ancestrees.com> To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Notes on Marm's map of Newberry Courthouse Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:26:47 -0400 I just discovered that I have no Henry in my database in SC that fits this description. Does anyone know who this Justice Henry Coate belongs too? At 07:15 PM 5/1/2000 -0700, you wrote: >It has a date of 1823, November 24....Linda this book also has some tax >lists in it and infor as to when JP served etc...they show Henry Coate as >a Justice from 1807-1830 and then a Henry Coate listed as a Commissioner >to Approve Public Securities in 1829 but he resigns...he also served in >this capacity in 1815... > >I'm going to scan these lists and put them on the SC research page as >well...just takes some time here...<g>... > >Char > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Linda J. Dudick" <LDudick@Ancestrees.com> >To: "Charlotte *" <coats@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [COATES-L] Notes on Marm's map of Newberry Courthouse >Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 20:00:42 -0400 > >When was this map made? >At 07:42 AM 4/25/2000 -0700, you wrote: >>I'm just making some observations on the little map Marm did of the public >>square around the courthouse: >> >>He shows a Henry Coate, Esq. as owning land and a Henry Coates with >>land...the significance here could be that there are two Henry's owning >>land here....one spelled Coate and an Esq. and the other spelling is >>Coates...Marmaduke has spelled his own name Coate....as a surveyor and a >>member of the Coate family, he would know the significance of >>detail....and this could show that these two Henry's are from different >>families but they certainly knew each other... >> >>Char >>________________________________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >>==== COATES Mailing List ==== >>Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: >>http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > ==== COATES Mailing List ==== Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I've added the Ninety Six jury lists to this page...these are 1779 jury lists...thought to be complete or so they say? http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/scresearch2.htm I've also added two maps to this page: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/scmaps1.htm One is a 1773 map of the Fork between the Broad and Saluda river the other is Marm's 1820 map of Newberry County SC... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Justin , Thank you so much for sending the information on Pollard Hickman Coates. Austin Coates is my 3x ggrandfather. His oldest son is Joseph Pollard Coates and youngest is William Elijah Coates. You have really opened helped me with your comments. Thanks Robbie.

I've added some of the Revolutionary Indexes here: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/miscella.html This is where I'll add the rest of the indexes for Coats as well...just don't have those scanned yet... The individual records will go on the State Documents pages...I've only finished one so far Wm Coates of NJ - 1778-1779 at: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/newjerse.html I only have one other Wm from the muster and payroll file...but I got all of the index cards for Coate, Coates, Coats.... To find these records...you need to go to the index card find the military company they were with...then go to another book at the National Archive which tells you which roll of film the muster and payroll records are on...these records don't tell you much...but could indicate areas for further research...I only got the two William's yesterday because of time restraints but will continue to collect the rest of them as I go....other than the census records this is about all there is at our Regional National Archive here...most of the other military records are just indexes...will check to see if there is anything on that Cherokee War in 1760s and they have the census records here as well....still lots to check... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

FYI....Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mary C. Sparks" <mcsparks@speedgate.net> To: COATS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Coats/Burnett connection? Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:21:31 -0500 The following comes from p. 602 of Spartanburg County / District South Carolina: Deed Abstracts Books A-T 1785-1827 (1752-1827) by Albert Bruce Pruitt. The heading at the top of the page says "Book Q." The entry reads: "p. 314-316 Jan. 29, 1814 Hardy Fluker (Edgefield Dist) to Marmeduke Coate (Newberry Dist); for $90 sold 200 ac; border: Venable's Crossroads, John Burnet, Cart Road Br, George Rowlan, School House Br, and Leonard Cardin; part of 890 ac survey Jan. 21, 1793 for Leonard Cardin. Witness Henry Coate and Joel Bell. Signed Hardy Fluker. Wit. oath Jun. 17, 1815 (Newberry Dist) Joel Bell to Y. J. Harrington JQ. Rec. Jul. 2, 1819." (Spelling and punctuation are as they appear in Pruitt's book.) This is of interest to me because it is the first time I ever have seen the names Coats and Burnett (in any spelling) on the same sheet of paper. I found this while looking for the parents of Juliana Coats and of her husband, Jeremiah W. Burnett. They ended up in Perry Co., AL, about 1850. With them was Margaret Coats, whose relationship to Juliana is unknown. Mary Carolyn Sparks mcsparks@yahoo.com mcsparks@speedgate.net ==== COATS Mailing List ==== List owner: John Coates, jdcoates@aa.net ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I've been a reader of this list for a couple of years, and never have worked up the gumption to post on Pollard Hickman Coates, but since there seem to be a few others who might be interested, I'll toss out my few scraps of information. Pollard Hickman Coates (13 May 1794, SC - 5 Apr 1845, Holmes Co, MS) was the son of Elenor (or Helena) Hickman Coates and (presumably) Elijah Coates. Elijah, in turn, may be the son of a Joseph Coates. I'll present my evidence, such as it is, from latest to earliest. First, there is no doubt that Pollard Coates and sister Emilia Coates were grandchildren of John Hickman of Orange and Barnwell Cos, SC-- he mentions them in his will, along with a daughter, Helena Coates (see below). One thing to note is that John Hickman probably did not personally write the will, since he signed by mark (also the codicil). *** Notes of will of John Hickman, Orange Co Barnwell County, SC, Will Book A, pp128-131 1. debts paid 2. to grandson Pollard Coats, land (20-30 acres) 3. to granddau Emilia Coats, 50 ac 4. to son Thomas, 80 ac 5. dau Rebecca Wroten, 100 ac 6. dau Sarah, cattle, hogs, and 100 ac 7. grandson Henry Tylar, 25 ac 8. son John, guns, tools, cattle, hogs, remainder of 640 ac tract 9. wife Elizabeth, use of John's land during her lifetime 10. Charles Hickman, Helena Coats, Nancy Glover, and Elizabeth Tylar have already recieved their portion, they receive 5 shillings each. 11. son John and wife Elizabeth to be exec's signed 13 Oct 1799 John his X mark Hickman witnesses: Peter Glover, Abner his X mark Glover, Gasper Trotte Codicil: the 75 ac bequeathed to Henry Tylar (dec'd) is bequeathed instead to dau Elizabeth Tylar signed 17 Aug 1802 John his X mark Hickman witnesses: Gasper Trotte, James Daniel, Henry Rotten Gasper Trotte swore attesting to signatures on will and codicil and signed in presence of James Danield and Henry Wrotten, 15 Nov 1811 *** Next, also in Barnwell, we have a deed from Elijah Coates and wife Elenor to Wm Barr, Book B, page 324, dated 3 Aug 1801, for 167 ac on S. Edisto River, recorded 2 Jan 1806. This deed is also signed by mark (if I remember correctly). Elijah Coates is mentioned in the SC Comindex of State Land Grants in relation to a grant to William Blitchendon (a Blitchendon married one of the Hickmans) dated 15 Feb 1803. Elijah Coates appears in the 1800 Census, of Orange Co, SC, with one male under 10 and one 26-45, and 2 females under ten, one 10-16, and one 26-45. A Sion Coates also appears on this same census. In the 1790 Census, a Joseph Coates appears adjacent to John Hickman in Orangeburg District, p102. There's only 1 (over 16) and 2 females. This Joseph *could* be the later Elijah, I suppose, with the 2nd female being the daughter who would be over 10 in 1800. A "Josee" Coates is mentioned in the SC Comindex on the Coates Family Archive receiving a state grant in Orange of 540 ac (Book 18, page 298) dated 5 Mar 1787. That is about as far as it goes. The Hickmans may have come from Currituck Co, NC-- an unreferenced family group sheet on them, claims John Hickman's wife was Elizabeth Bright-- from the Brights of Currituck and Dare Co, NC. Whether Joseph/Elijah Coates came from the same area, or just met up with the Hickmans in Orange/Barnwell, SC is unknown. Last comment-- Pollard H. Coates was in the Mississippi Territory by 1813 when he served in the War of 1812. Also there about the same time, but in a slightly different area was Austin Coates-- his family uses Pollard and Elijah for a couple of children-- a tantalizing clue for what it's worth. Justin M. Sanders "I shot an arrow into the air. It fell Dept. of Physics to earth I know not where." --Henry Univ. of South Alabama Wadsworth Longfellow confessing jsanders@jaguar1.usouthal.edu to a sad ignorance of ballistics.

hello searching for my roots nc has nothing nor does south carolina my parents died when i was a boy so i have very little knowlege about them my mom was dela mae coates .her mother was nora mae coates was baker before married later change to green when her husband curtis m coates died i asume after 1927 cause my mom was born in 27 as i have birth record cumberland county her mom and dads parents were beautty coates and elisabeth coates hope some one out here can help thanks alot oh ps im sending you some funny stuff thanks again