Hmmm, here is another William Coats and wife Beverly E. in Davidson County TN in 1840 as a pensioner...not sure what kind of pension... http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndavids/pensions.htm Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Take a look at this... I'm now up the Bush River when Scotts Creek forks off and it shows the Quaker meeting house...All of the maps on TopoZone.com are free. To look for yourself, go to: http://www.TopoZone.com I'm sure Mathias Creek isn't on here...but it's still good for large creeks etc... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

FYI...Char ___________________ Brian Beisel/R8/USDAFS wrote: >Brian Beisel >Enoree Ranger District >803-276-4810 >bbeisel@fs.fed.us > >Mr. Belton, > >Let me introduce myself. I am an Assistant District Ranger on the Enoree >District. I received the information on Gilders Creek Cemetery that was >posted on the web. The District Ranger and I are planning a site visit to >the cemetery very soon. We want to have current on-site information before >any decision is made regarding your request. > >I forwarded the information about the cemetery to our archeologist and he >was aware of the site and the historical significance. The cemetery is an >exception #1 to the deed for tract E-30a. This means the cemetery alone is >not under U.S. ownership. The site is eligible for the National Register of >Historic Places because of the association with the Revolutionary War >veterans and age of the graves. > >Once we visit the site a more informed decision will be made regarding the >protection of this unique area. If you have any questions please feel free >to contact me. My e-mail and phone number are listed above. > >Thanks for your interest. > >Brian ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

The remaining files I got last trip to the library are all up now...there are two and in both Marmaduke and/or Henry Coate was acting as the bondsman for a guardianship... http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/newberry1.htm Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I am looking for information on David Jackson's daughter married a Coates in South Carolina. I found a David Jackson ; Europe came to Richland Co,S. C. b. 1729 married Mary ? b. Orangeburg,S.C. He had 2 daughters Lydia b. Mar.4,1753 and Anne b. Jul.22,1755. Does anyone know of the Jackson family and Coates mixing. Austin Marion Coates m. Margaret Coon (Kuhn) named his first son David Jackson Coates b.1818. I am trying to find out if there is a Coates-Jackson Conection. What do you think? Robbie

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_fb699b_5754e0be$3a051df9 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed FYI...Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: meyerma@webtv.net (Mary Meyer) To: coats@hotmail.com (* Charlotte) CC: TPope77497@aol.com, meyerma_77801@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fw: Davis Data Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:21:52 -0500 (CDT) Charlotte, meet Teddy. Teddy, meet Charlotte. (Teddy, typing up what I promised you is almost next on my list of things to do.) Here are some quotes from George W. Paschal's HISTORY OF NC BAPTISTS: footnote p. 265: "On September 12, 1752, Bishop Spangenburg wrote: 'After having traversed the length and breadth of North Carolina, we have ascertained that towards the western mountains there are pletny of people who have come from Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and even from New England" (COLONIAL RECORDS, IV, 1312). "Among the settlers of this section was a colony from New Jersey who occupied the lands near the Yadkin south of where the North Carolina Railroad crosses the river. In this settlement were many Baptists who as early as the summer of 1755 had already established worship and had a minsiter of their own....When Rev. Hugh mcAden reached this settlement on hsi tour through North Carolina, in September of the year 1755, he found that Mr. Miller had already been there and had worked so effectively that the [sic.] had caused many of the Presbyterians, who had a meeting house in the settlement, to become Baptists" (pp. 265-266). "...the Charleston Association had become interested in the Jersey Settlement church, and it was through its kindly offices that the next minister, Rev. John Gano, came to this place. At a meeting of the Association of 1755 Rev. Oliver Hart had been authroized to secure, if possible, a missionary to labor in its bounds. Visiting Philadelphia the same year he secured Rev. John Gano, who atteneded the next meeting of the Charleston Asociation, that of 1756. Here he was adivsed to make a tour of the Yadkin River and to bestow his labors 'wherever Providence appeared to direct.' Thus he came to the Jersey Settlement. The pastorless church strongly urged him to become their minister" (p. 267). In his account, Gano states he traveled 800 miles in 5 weeks. "The people met and determined on building a meeting hosue which was completed in a few months. As there was no other palce of worship near, and here was a great colelfction of inhabitants of different denominations, they all attended,and it became generally united....we appointed a board of trustees, some of each denomination....During my residence in this place, we were blest with another son, who was born Nov. 11, 1758....The reason of my leaving this place was the war with the Cherokee Indians...and my family being much exposed, I concluded it was expedient to move back to New Jersey" (pp. 267=268). "This church, which had as its first ministers two of the very ablest ministers of the Philadelphia [Baptist] Association, Miller and Gano, and whose members were seemingly of good religious heritage, soon passed out of existence. We have seen that it joined the Charelston Association in 1759, probably at a meeting held at Pee Dee in the spring of that year for the special accommodation of the NC churches. In the following October Gano attednded the session of the Sandy Creek Association. It was soon after this that the war of the Cherokee Indians caused the dispersion of the church. These Indians had already in the summer of 1759 begun to murder the settlers in the outlying plantations along the Catawba, and the inhabitants had begun to take shelter in the forts. But the incursion which drove the settlers in the Jersey Settlement from their homes was that in January and February, 1760, when the Indians attacked Fort Dobbs at Fourth Creek in the present county of Iredell, threatened the Moravian settlements, and advanced as far east as Walnut Cove. Not all the families of the Jersey church left their homes, but their pastor was gone and the church organization was no longer kept up. A portion of those who remained, 'the remains of Mr. Gano's church in Jersey Settlement,' according to Morgan Edwards, joined with others in the constitution of Shallow Fords Baptist church, a body of Separates, on the borders of Forsyth and Davie County. It was a quarter of a century, in the year 1784, before another Baptist church was established in this place" (p. 269). Teddy, did you say that Rev. Gano baptized George Washington? Charlotte and I have ancestors who lived in Newberry Co. SC, but we are trying to trace the whereabouts of their forebears. Mary Alice ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_fb699b_5754e0be$3a051df9 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-10.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.44) by storefull-625.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <coats@hotmail.com> Received: from hotmail.com (f199.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.199]) by mailsorter-101-10.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with SMTP id KAA04872 for <meyerma@webtv.net>; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 36632 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jun 2000 17:59:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000624175957.36631.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 64.68.193.87 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:59:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [64.68.193.87] From: "* Charlotte" <coats@hotmail.com> To: meyerma@webtv.net Subject: Re: Fw: Davis Data Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:59:57 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Mary, I don't know that much about New Jersey, except that in the beginning it was just East and West Jersey...the East was acutally the northern part of the state and the West the more southern part of the State...it also seems that in those early times many family went from Philadelphia to West Jersey very easily...I have some of the old Quaker records in the Coats Archive....there is also a New Jersey Archive series...not sure you're familiar with that...but apparently at some point the New Jersey Archive transcribed into book form many of their early records...PA Archive did the same...the Archive series are many many volumns of early records... The LA library has a set of the PA series and I think NJ but it's been awhile since I've been there...and I don't get there to often... My research hasn't taken me to NJ just yet...I just gather some records as I go but I haven't done or started a serious search in either PA or NJ yet...so I'm not that familiar with the area... Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: meyerma@webtv.net (Mary Meyer) To: coats@hotmail.com (* Charlotte) Subject: Re: Fw: Davis Data Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:53:28 -0500 (CDT) Charlotte, We're going to claim you for a cousin, yet! It's inevitable, yes? Mary Alice PS Tell me (us) more about NJ. << Message3.txt >> ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_fb699b_5754e0be$3a051df9--

hello i need some help i work all the time so i really dont have time to do running im trying to find my grand parents full names does anyone have the census for 1900 hundred there names were curtis m coates elizabeth coates beautty coates live in cumberland county north carolina thanks for help

Pat Alsup Hardman PATJEAN @ aol.com Modesto, Ca. I am researching Jeremiah COATS (died in Douglas Co. on Dec. 1, 1879) and his wife Mary "Polly" McIntosh. Their daughter Nancy Jane COATS (Born 14 Dec.1845) married James Shelton Alsup. They were the parents of my grandfather Burt A.J. Alsup}.

Here a few tidbits to help the names make sense. The mother is probably Priscilla Turner. She didn't remarry as far as we know. Here's what I have on her. "Prisilla Turner was supposedly related to and perhaps a sister of the (John?) Turner (and James Coate, son of Big John) that was in an incident that ended in the death of a Mr. Cox. Mr. Cox was possibly a Quaker as some members of the Bush River Monthly Meeting held that name. Mr. Turner was placed in the stocks for a day, whilst James fled the area, never to be heard of again in South Carolina. (C-1842) " Henry's mother had remarried and probably moved to Alabama by then. Thought you'd enjoy the Turner info coming in. At 12:54 AM 6/24/2000 -0700, you wrote: >This is an interesting case - It is for Henry Coate, is very large but it >includes information about two lawsuits....the first was a suit against >Henry where he confessed a judgment or in today's language he stipulated >to a judgement to Gilbert, there's also a partnership agreement in there >and a lease for the Brick Store and Billard hall, these were signed in Dec >1827 and Henry died in Jan of 1828, so there was probably some estate >planning going on here...<g>.....anyway, he stips and then shortly >thereafter dies...not only without a will but I don't think an >administration was ever opened for him...at least that's what one could >gather from these records...the other case is the Gilberts trying to >prevent the execution of another judgment against Henry by Stephens and >Pratt...for a promissory note...several thousands of dollars involved here... > >He does have a son named John...there are two really interesting documents >in here one is the sheriff's sale of his personal and real property, it >lists quite a number of slaves and land...the other is what I think is a >bill from Gilbert...Henry had or owned the lot that the Brick Store and >Billard hall was on but Gilbert maybe operated the store, in the land >sale, the lot for the Brick Store and Billards is sold but it doesn't say >anthing about the store...this bill is a listing of his account and in >here it referes to his son John...also his wife and referes to *mother*, >it doesn't say whoses mother, but either Henry or Polly but more likely >Polly's not sure of her death date, I think Benjamin Long was her father >and he had died prior to this time, so her mother might have been living >with them...there are items like *candy for children* guess some things >never change...it also appears a Turner and a Mrs. Jacobus or something >charges to the bill as well...also a Miss Elizabeth...not sure who that >would be perhaps a relative of Polly's... > >The items on this list include calico, homespun, combs, sugar, tobacco, >and toward the end Rum and Whiskey become an increasing item probably >around the time of his death, I think the bill goes through 1827 and Henry >died in Jan of 1828... > >Anyway, just a really interesting file...he had a walnut coffin made with >a raised or raising lid...that might have been after his decease...but he >was buried somewhere in Newberry County??? > >http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/newberry1.htm > >Most interesting....Char > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== COATES Mailing List ==== > >

This is an interesting case - It is for Henry Coate, is very large but it includes information about two lawsuits....the first was a suit against Henry where he confessed a judgment or in today's language he stipulated to a judgement to Gilbert, there's also a partnership agreement in there and a lease for the Brick Store and Billard hall, these were signed in Dec 1827 and Henry died in Jan of 1828, so there was probably some estate planning going on here...<g>.....anyway, he stips and then shortly thereafter dies...not only without a will but I don't think an administration was ever opened for him...at least that's what one could gather from these records...the other case is the Gilberts trying to prevent the execution of another judgment against Henry by Stephens and Pratt...for a promissory note...several thousands of dollars involved here... He does have a son named John...there are two really interesting documents in here one is the sheriff's sale of his personal and real property, it lists quite a number of slaves and land...the other is what I think is a bill from Gilbert...Henry had or owned the lot that the Brick Store and Billard hall was on but Gilbert maybe operated the store, in the land sale, the lot for the Brick Store and Billards is sold but it doesn't say anthing about the store...this bill is a listing of his account and in here it referes to his son John...also his wife and referes to *mother*, it doesn't say whoses mother, but either Henry or Polly but more likely Polly's not sure of her death date, I think Benjamin Long was her father and he had died prior to this time, so her mother might have been living with them...there are items like *candy for children* guess some things never change...it also appears a Turner and a Mrs. Jacobus or something charges to the bill as well...also a Miss Elizabeth...not sure who that would be perhaps a relative of Polly's... The items on this list include calico, homespun, combs, sugar, tobacco, and toward the end Rum and Whiskey become an increasing item probably around the time of his death, I think the bill goes through 1827 and Henry died in Jan of 1828... Anyway, just a really interesting file...he had a walnut coffin made with a raised or raising lid...that might have been after his decease...but he was buried somewhere in Newberry County??? http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/newberry1.htm Most interesting....Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Bob and Guppi...the census records below are for you guys...sorry folks but I can't get an email through to Bob...anyway, these are just some of the indexes .... I found that these indexes as ancestry.com are an every name index...even that James and Mary Coats living with that Leasney family was listed in these indexes...and I found the county and page number for the index was correct as well...this just makes searching in the census records a little faster but if a name is not listed in these doesn't mean they aren't there, they may have missed the census or any number of things...moved between census periods or something...anyway always check other sources other than census i.e. land records... I was surprised that those Quaker records although in Clinton County OH also included what appeared to be records and information on Newhope MM in Greene County OH...I would not look in Clinton County OH for records about Greene County OH... Also check the surrounding counties...i.e. Clinton County, Greene County, Fayette County etc...as in the Quaker Records it appears that John and Esther started out in Miami County OH, Esther died, John some how got to Green County and apparently with his kids, in Green County it appears he remarried a Mary, last name is in Hinshaw's...but his kids or at least some of them ended up in Clinton County OH... So census records are only a beginning for research...leave no stone unturned..... ____________________________________ 1850 COATES GEORGE W. Delaware County OH 364 Thompson Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS6a589344 1850 COATES GEORGE W. Delaware County OH 364 Thompson Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS9a1535018 1820 COATES LEWIS Sandusky County OH 164 Sandusky Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1820 Federal Census Index OH320252946 1870 COATES GEORGE B. Stark County OH 290 Alliance Pct. Federal Population Schedule OH 1870 Federal Census Index OH5277881 1850 COATES GEORGE W. Trumbull County OH 696 Greene Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS6a589343 1850 COATES GEORGE W. Trumbull County OH 696 Greene Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS9a1535017 1830 COATES RUFUS JR. Trumbull County OH 144 Gustavus Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1830 Federal Census Index OH558366740 1830 COATES RUFUS Trumbull County OH 144 Gustavus Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1830 Federal Census Index OH558366739 1808 COATS GEORGE Adams County OH 009 Tax List OH Early Census Index OHS1a713007 1808 COATS GEORGE Adams County OH 009 Tax List OH Early Census Index OHS1a713011 1809 COATS GEORGE Adams County OH 007 No Township Listed Tax list OH Early Census Index OHS1a713008 1809 COATS GEORGE Adams County OH 007 No Township Listed Tax list OH Early Census Index OHS1a713013 1810 COATS GEORGE Adams County OH 010 Mixed Townships Tax List OH 1810 Washington Co. Census Index OHS1a713009 1810 COATS GEORGE Adams County OH 010 Mixed Townships Tax List OH 1810 Washington Co. Census Index OHS1a713012 1850 COATS RUFUS Allen County OH 298 Perry Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS6a589901 1850 COATS RUFUS Allen County OH 298 Perry Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS9a1536835 1830 COATS GEORGE Athens County OH 245 Athens Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1830 Federal Census Index OH558366898 1820 COATS GEORGE Brown County OH 393 Clark Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1820 Federal Census Index OH320253076 1860 COATS GEORGE Clermont County OH 897 Washington Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1860 Federal Census Index OH44631949 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I can't resist giving these little lectures about the names and how they are derived. Evans is Welsh, of course, and early on the children of Welsh parents were given the father's given name as a surname--more or less. So if a man was named, for example, Evan Roberts, his children would be ap or ab Evans. After arriving here, they fairly soon adopted a permanent last name, whatever it happened to be at the time. Over the years, Evans became Bevans or Bivens, dropping the ab or ap. Other names derived in the same way would be Pritchard from ap Richard, Powell from ap Howell, Pugh from ap Hugh, etc. I just love these little side-trips of genealogy.

I have a Moses McKay, a cousin to my line of McKays, in Clinton County OH or there abouts, who was also involved in the underground railroad...I keep expecting to see some type of Coats/McKay connection in OH...<g>...although my line of McKay's were disowned from the Quakers in VA and never reinstated... ____________________ BEVANS, BIVANS, BIVENS, BIVINS, COATES Posted by Cynthia Porcher <chollp@bellsouth.net> on Wed, 13 Jan 1999 Surname: BEVANS, BIVANS, BIVENS, BIVINS, COATES BEVANS/BIVENS/any phonetic spelling I am looking for info re Abel BIVENS who was listed in the US Census for 1840 in Caesar Creek Twp, Greene Co, Ohio. Another source indicates that Abel Bivens/Bevans' home was a stop on the Underground Railroad in the early 1840"s. ",,,on the road beyond New Hope Church in the early 40's there stood the humble homes of the late Abel Bevans and Joseph Coates, which were in those days stations on the underground railway." Any info on Abel Bivens (any spelling) or any of his ancestors or descendants would be greatly appreciated. I believe that he was the brother of my 3G grandfather. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

The Clinton County OH, original Quaker records for Center MM are here: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/ohiodocs.html Hinshaw's Quaker records are here: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/ohio.htm This is only Vol V of Hinshaw's Ohio records...but I noticed he did not have the name of John's first wife in his records which was Esther but he does have his second wife in the records...so I'm not sure where he got his information...maybe just from a listing of families...although I didn't see anything like that in the Center Original Records... Char ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

In the last couple days it's been hard to get a letter to the Coates-list on my computer and I finally discovered why. Just sending it along in case some of you have trouble also. Type out the full address currently: Coates-L@rootsweb.com .

Now, I just found that Rachel Eastburn is the supposed wife of Aaron Coate of Philadelphia -- However, that's not proven. The Rachel, widow of William Coates could have been the wife of both or a totally different Rachel with this evidence. >Boy, I'm answering some of my own questions as I go through the >Philadelphia Wills right now from www.ancestry.com . > >It is extremely likely that the Rachel Coats who died in 1773 that I just >sent info on is Rachel Eastburn by surname. That is because she is listed >in her father's will, John Eastburn, proved in 1772 in Philadelphia. The >will lists his daughter, Rachel Coats and his grandson Benjamin Coats. > > >==== COATES Mailing List ==== > >

Boy, I'm answering some of my own questions as I go through the Philadelphia Wills right now from www.ancestry.com . It is extremely likely that the Rachel Coats who died in 1773 that I just sent info on is Rachel Eastburn by surname. That is because she is listed in her father's will, John Eastburn, proved in 1772 in Philadelphia. The will lists his daughter, Rachel Coats and his grandson Benjamin Coats.

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The name Benjamin seems to go with that NE group as well...CT or NY doesn't it? Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Linda J. Dudick" <LDudick@ancestrees.com> To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [COATES-L] William and Rachel Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:20:08 -0400 Boy, I'm answering some of my own questions as I go through the Philadelphia Wills right now from www.ancestry.com . It is extremely likely that the Rachel Coats who died in 1773 that I just sent info on is Rachel Eastburn by surname. That is because she is listed in her father's will, John Eastburn, proved in 1772 in Philadelphia. The will lists his daughter, Rachel Coats and his grandson Benjamin Coats. ==== COATES Mailing List ==== ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Well, it wouldn't be the first mistake in that old genealogy...Northern Liberties...isn't that where the Col. Wm Coats of the Revolution was...could this be him? Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Linda J. Dudick" <LDudick@ancestrees.com> To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [COATES-L] William and Rachel Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:20:08 -0400 Boy, I'm answering some of my own questions as I go through the Philadelphia Wills right now from www.ancestry.com . It is extremely likely that the Rachel Coats who died in 1773 that I just sent info on is Rachel Eastburn by surname. That is because she is listed in her father's will, John Eastburn, proved in 1772 in Philadelphia. The will lists his daughter, Rachel Coats and his grandson Benjamin Coats. ==== COATES Mailing List ==== ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com