Thanks for everything the name I have found was COOKES not Coates. Please Unsubscribe to the digest ----- Original Message ----- From: <COATES-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <COATES-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: COATES-D Digest V00 #297

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I think this is Rev William's daughter, he's refering to? I don't recall who she married off hand...but thought someone else might have more info on her line than I...Char ----- Original Message ----- From: DPW928@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 10:51 PM To: coats@hotmail.com Subject: Mary Polly Coats I am trying to find more info on my gggrandmother who married Nathan Wilson in PA. Her birthdate (1815) matches your Mary. Could this be your Mary? Dennis Wilson 78 928 US 5 sp 78 928 Euro AT 80 924 NA 5 sp<br clear=all><hr>Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

My Coats connection ties in with a sister of Nancy Hart b 4/11/1814 Bedford TN. Elizabeth Hart m James Coats in Bedford, TN....Judie Boone and I would be 4th cousins. I am unaware of a direct connection between this Hart line and the Coats line from Edgefield...anyone disagree?? James Coats (m Elizabeth Hart) parents were not Wilson Coats and Catherine Ruhle. I would like to hear more from Judie or anyone on the Hart/Jernigan connection. As far as I know James Hart never filed for a Rev pension...John Rainey pension is posted on the Coates, Coate, Coats Family Archieve. Dan Coats Recently moved from Grand Junction to Longmont Colorado. 720-494-8656 * Charlotte wrote: > Is this the same or related Hart family that married into the Coats line in Edgefield? Char > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Judie Boone > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 8:54 AM > > To: HART-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [HART-L] James Hart(1750-1830)& Elizabeth Hart,Edgefield Co, SC > > > Direct Descendants of Benjamin Hart > > Is anyone researching James & Elizabeth Hart of Edgefield Co., SC. > > May have lived on Meeting Street where the elite famlies made their ho= > > mes. > > I am a member of the DAR through the John Rainey line and would like > > to submit a secondary line through James Hart. >

http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar/mdnmmm654mc.htm Here are the indexes for the Nottingham MM Certificates of Marriage and Removal...there are lots of PA folks in these records as well...and you will see some Coates records...now, there is also a Coal family in here and Warrick Coats apparently was married twice?, the second time to a Darlington, I say this because, it shows as the witness to his marriage to Darlington a Warrick Coates, junr... Will get these scanned and up asap...but not probably before tomorrow... Char

Is this the same or related Hart family that married into the Coats line in Edgefield? Char > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judie Boone > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 8:54 AM > To: HART-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HART-L] James Hart(1750-1830)& Elizabeth Hart,Edgefield Co, SC > Direct Descendants of Benjamin Hart > Is anyone researching James & Elizabeth Hart of Edgefield Co., SC. > May have lived on Meeting Street where the elite famlies made their ho= > mes. > I am a member of the DAR through the John Rainey line and would like > to submit a secondary line through James Hart. > 1 Benjamin HART d: 5/06/1771 St Marks Parish Craven County, SC > - +Ann JERNIGAN > 2 James HART b: 1750 SC d: Oct or Nov/1830 Edgefield Co, SC > Will was certified December 3, 1830 > --- +Elizabeth JERNIGAN > Received "Indented Certificates" for services in Rev War fro SC Ar= > chives > AA3393-A,pp 1bbbB for sum of 31 pounds, 15 shillings and eight pe= > nce half > penny > sterling for sundries for state troops and militia and 90 days mil= > itia duty > done as > a horseman in 1780. He was paid the full amount on April 1, 1786 > - 3 Henry HART b: 12/25/1783 Edgefield Co, SC > ..........d: 10/25/1857 Old Mt Harmon Cem. Bedford Co, TN > ----- +Nancy RAINEY b: 11/11/1784 Laurens County, SC or VA? > Her father stated in Pension App for service during Rev Was th= > at he lived > in Laurens Co, SC before and after the war. > ...............m: Abt. 1805 ? SC d: 10/17/1871 Hart/Gossage Cem. Oak, Po= > pe Co., IL > --- 4 Nancy HART b: 4/11/1814 Bedford Co., TN > ..............d: 7/04/1890 Hart/Gossage Cem in Pope Co., IL > ------- +George Washington GOSSAGE b: 12/24/1812 Caswell Co., NC > ..............m: Bet. 1831 - 1832 d: 3/29/1895 Hart/Gossage Cem Pope Coun= > ty, IL > ----- 5 Frances M (Fanna) GOSSAGE b: 12/14/1846 Bedford Co, TN > ............... d: 11/27/1887 Johnson Co., IL > -------- +Isaac McDonald ROBERTSON b: 1/17/1841 Custer, Overton Co.,TN > .................m: 12/15/1861 Golconda, Pope Co., IL > .................d: 5/05/1928 Pocahontas, AR > ------ 6 Isaac Newton ROBERTSON b: 10/05/1872 Mt. Vernon, Jefferson Co,= > Il > ..................d: 3/12/1938 Cambria, Wmson Co., Il > ---------- +Daisy Dean HARDWICK b: 1/27/1878 Hopkins Co., KY > ......................d: 3/03/1948 Overland, St. Louis Co., Mo > -------- 7 Maude Avis ROBERTSON b: 4/25/1905 Cambria, Wmson Co., IL. > ......................d: 8/17/1995 Florissant, St Louis Co, MO > ------------ +Virgil Oris SWANN b: 4/26/1900 Carrier Mills, Saline Co., = > IL > .......................m: 3/08/1927 St. Joseph, MO d: 6/16/1969 Florissa= > nt, St Louis > Co., MO > ....................8. Judith Swann ( This is me) > Judie Swann Boone - jboone@nightowl.net > 26 Vanguard > St Peters, MO 63376 - USA

Yeah, but look where five of his kids were born...in GA...so he must have gone from SC to GA then to LA...wonder if this could be the Morgan Coats', in Jackson County GA, son...boy this is interesting...better yet...1850 Census if he was 48, he was born in 1802? The Morgan Coats in GA had a land lottery grant in GA, don't recall if it was the first or second...could be the same Morgan Coats...I don't know anything about the Morgan Coats in GA except that he was in Jackson County, GA...I've been trying to get some of the land records from GA State Archive...but man they are really slow in responding...guess I'll have to give them a call tomorrow or Monday....but there is also a group of Coats in Jefferson County GA...a Charles, James and William Coats...from Court records it looks like both Charles and James died about 1804, both about the same time or year...I thought that a bit strange as in...but maybe not...but I am trying to get some of those records out of GA... I think you are on to something here.... Char ----- Original Message ----- From: Duroblan@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 10:18 AM To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [COATES-L] Morgan Coats I found this in the 1850 Catahoula Parish,LA Census #74-74 Page 10 Morgan Coats 48 M planter from S.C. George 25 M Ga. Wm. J. 22 M Ga. Harriett 19 F Ga. John 18 M Ga Catherine 16 F Ga. Frances E. 12 F Miss. Living next door to Thomas Rawlings age 24 M Planter La. Morgan Coats age 48 wouldn't have to have my Grandfather Simeon Thomas as a Witness to him being 21 years of age. I believe this Morgan must have had a son Morgan Coats that married in 1851 to Sophiah Rawlings Note: that this Morgan Coats is from SC and he lived in Mississippi in 1836. There is a possiblity that Morgan is a relation to Austin Coates. I feel before coming to Mississippi from SC that Austin Coates family probably went to Georgia as did not that travelled from SC to Mississippi. Robbie ==== COATES Mailing List ====<br clear=all><hr>Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Morgan Coats Morgan Coats on census is 48 b. S.C. I have found from investigation (LOL) that he married Sophiah Rawlings. Wm. Coats married Martha Wiggins feb.26,1857 Harriett Coats married J. Harris Rawlings Feb.26,1859 Frances E. Coats Married James M. Carter May27,1860 >From the book Catahoula Parishes Marriages

I found this in the 1850 Catahoula Parish,LA Census #74-74 Page 10 Morgan Coats 48 M planter from S.C. George 25 M Ga. Wm. J. 22 M Ga. Harriett 19 F Ga. John 18 M Ga Catherine 16 F Ga. Frances E. 12 F Miss. Living next door to Thomas Rawlings age 24 M Planter La. Morgan Coats age 48 wouldn't have to have my Grandfather Simeon Thomas as a Witness to him being 21 years of age. I believe this Morgan must have had a son Morgan Coats that married in 1851 to Sophiah Rawlings Note: that this Morgan Coats is from SC and he lived in Mississippi in 1836. There is a possiblity that Morgan is a relation to Austin Coates. I feel before coming to Mississippi from SC that Austin Coates family probably went to Georgia as did not that travelled from SC to Mississippi. Robbie

----- Original Message ----- From: Sharlen Leach Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 7:55 AM To: Charlotte Subject: Coats family Charlotte, I am a descendant of John W Coats and Fannie Matilda Bogar. He was born about 1873, married in Lafayette County, Missouri 12/24/1895. His ancestry is a complete mystery. I believe that he may have been a grandson of Alfred Alonzo Coats b 1798 in NY. Alfred's sons John, Owen, or Alonzo B Coats would be the most likely father of John W. Have you ran across John W in any of your Coats research? I have been told that he and Fannie "Frances" were married at the Coates House Hotel in Kansas City. Thanks! Sharlen Jones Leach<br clear=all><hr>Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Coats" <jimnell1@itexas.net> To: "Charlotte" <coats@hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [COATES-L] CLEM COATES - Morgan Coates > Dear Charlotte and list , > There is a Clement Coats that appears on the 1830 census for McMinn County Tn. > He does not appear on any Tn. census for the following time periods . A Clement > Coats appears on the census for Jasper County , Mo . (Joplin/Leadville ) in > 1850 . Joplin is just over the line in Mo. from the Cherokee Nation West Okla. > where Simpson Coats and James McKenzie Coats resided. No one has connected > Simpson , James McKenzie , or Clement with each other.James McKenzie Coats son > , William McKenzie Coats , lived , married , and worked in Joplin Mo.His > children were born there and attended trade schools there , his in-laws resided > in Joplin . > The Clement Coats who appears in McMinn county Tn. in 1830 lived next door or on > the same census page with Samuel Martin . Samuel Martins daughter , Elizabeth , > married James McKenzie Coats and James McKenzie married Samuel Martins > granddaughter Annie B. Spears . > I believe these families to be connected. Simpson Coats son John appears on the > Dawes rolls . He married Jennie Elliot , relative of Judge B. B. Weisner . B. B. > Weisner gave testimony as to the lineage of Jennie Elliot Weisner Coats. > Could Clem Coats also be related to the Louisiana Clem Coats ?Or is he the same > Clement Coats ? does anyone have any information on Simpson Coats who resided in > Tahlequah Oklahoma in 1890 or any further information on Clement Coats of Jasper > County , Sarcosie , Mo ? > Nell Coats > > Charlotte wrote: > > > My email is being held hostage by Hotmail for some reason, but just in case > > this gets through...there is a Morgan Coats in Jackson County, GA in the > > early 1800s...not sure it's the same one but it is believed that he may be > > related to Rev William Coats some how...Char > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Duroblan@aol.com> > > To: <COATES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 11:37 AM > > Subject: [COATES-L] CLEM COATES - Morgan Coates > > > > > I went to the courthouse in Catahoula Parish, LA last week and found a > > > marriage license with Morgan Coates marriage to Sophiah Rawlings > > June10,1857 > > > . Son of Clem Coates. > > > > > > My grandfather Simeon Thomas was one of the witnesses. > > > Simeon Thomas' daughter was married to 1st Charles Austin Coates 1846 > > then, > > > 2nd William E.(Doc) Coates 1859 (after Charles A. Coates death.) Both of > > > these are sons of Austin Coates. > > > > > > Simeon Thomas is at all the related Coates marriages as witness. > > > He is a Justice of the Peace in Catahoula Parish but, I haven't seen where > > he > > > married any of the Coates. > > > > > > Does anyone have any information about Clem Coates and Morgan Coates as > > far > > > as relationship to Austin Coates b. 1788 married to Margaret Coon. > > > Also, Austin Coates , sister, Elizabeth (Betsy) Coates was married to > > > Benjamin Rawlins-Rawlings , Sophiah Rawlings may also, be related. > > > Thank You > > > Robbie > > > > > > > > > ==== COATES Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00 > > > > ==== COATES Mailing List ==== > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00

My email is being held hostage by Hotmail for some reason, but just in case this gets through...there is a Morgan Coats in Jackson County, GA in the early 1800s...not sure it's the same one but it is believed that he may be related to Rev William Coats some how...Char ----- Original Message ----- From: <Duroblan@aol.com> To: <COATES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: [COATES-L] CLEM COATES - Morgan Coates > I went to the courthouse in Catahoula Parish, LA last week and found a > marriage license with Morgan Coates marriage to Sophiah Rawlings June10,1857 > . Son of Clem Coates. > > My grandfather Simeon Thomas was one of the witnesses. > Simeon Thomas' daughter was married to 1st Charles Austin Coates 1846 then, > 2nd William E.(Doc) Coates 1859 (after Charles A. Coates death.) Both of > these are sons of Austin Coates. > > Simeon Thomas is at all the related Coates marriages as witness. > He is a Justice of the Peace in Catahoula Parish but, I haven't seen where he > married any of the Coates. > > Does anyone have any information about Clem Coates and Morgan Coates as far > as relationship to Austin Coates b. 1788 married to Margaret Coon. > Also, Austin Coates , sister, Elizabeth (Betsy) Coates was married to > Benjamin Rawlins-Rawlings , Sophiah Rawlings may also, be related. > Thank You > Robbie > > > ==== COATES Mailing List ==== > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.215 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00

I went to the courthouse in Catahoula Parish, LA last week and found a marriage license with Morgan Coates marriage to Sophiah Rawlings June10,1857 . Son of Clem Coates. My grandfather Simeon Thomas was one of the witnesses. Simeon Thomas' daughter was married to 1st Charles Austin Coates 1846 then, 2nd William E.(Doc) Coates 1859 (after Charles A. Coates death.) Both of these are sons of Austin Coates. Simeon Thomas is at all the related Coates marriages as witness. He is a Justice of the Peace in Catahoula Parish but, I haven't seen where he married any of the Coates. Does anyone have any information about Clem Coates and Morgan Coates as far as relationship to Austin Coates b. 1788 married to Margaret Coon. Also, Austin Coates , sister, Elizabeth (Betsy) Coates was married to Benjamin Rawlins-Rawlings , Sophiah Rawlings may also, be related. Thank You Robbie

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In a message dated 11/21/00 2:01:00 PM Central Standard Time, COATES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << http://www.census-online.com/links/index.html ahhh, who was looking for census records...? >> Me, Karen. Thanks much.

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http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/archives/arch/mars.htm This is a tremendous site...if they have the records in here, you can actually look at an index of the records via names...I went to Caswell County NC, I'm not familiar with how this works, so I have no idea how I go there...but I found an index for all of Caswell County NC land grants by name...I still haven't figured out where the microfilm number is...but just being able to see and index sure helps...there were no Coate, Coates or Coats lists...I did see a Cates... Char___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

These are actually very good clues, but it also depends what religion they were. In the Quaker religion, the first male was usually the wife's father, the 2nd male was the husband's father, the 1st daughter was the husband's mother and the 2nd daughter was the wife's. They usually didn't name any child after themselves, but the rest were often named after each of their siblings in order from oldest to youngest. Great clues. At 08:29 PM 11/16/00 -0800, you wrote: >Well, this certainly changes things...:) the exception must have been the >Coats families...<g> > >Char > >Let's see Rev Will: >First son: James - Rev Will's father >Second son: William - Nancy's father >Third son: was that Wilson? oops wrong father...<g>... >First daughter: Mary - Nancy's mother - that would be right >Second daughter: Rachel - father's mother - I think this could be correct >as well... > >Boy, the males just don't fall in line though.... > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >OLD NAMING PATTERNS > > >The first son was named after the father's father. > >The second son was named after the mother's father. > >The third son was named after the father. > >The fourth son was named after the fathers eldest brother. > >The first daughter was named after the mother's mother. > >The second daughter was named after the father's mother. > >The third daughter was named after the mother. > >The fourth daughter was named after the mothers eldest sister, always. > > >ALSO: >2nd wife's oldest daughter named after the first wife, using her full >name. >Children after those listed above were usually named after a favorite >relative with some possible exceptions: >If a child died in infancy, a later child might be given the same name. >When a newly ordained minister baptized his first child, if that child >were >a boy, he would be named for the minister, if a girl, she would receive >his >surname as her middle name. >If a child were fostered, usually because of being orphaned, he may be >named for the foster parent. >If you are sure that you have the earliest birth or baptisms and that >they >are in the correct order then, if John's first son is named Charles and >his >second daughter is named Elizabeth then John's parents must be Charles >and >Elizabeth.___________________________________________________________ >Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== COATES Mailing List ====

Well, this certainly changes things...:) the exception must have been the Coats families...<g> Char Let's see Rev Will: First son: James - Rev Will's father Second son: William - Nancy's father Third son: was that Wilson? oops wrong father...<g>... First daughter: Mary - Nancy's mother - that would be right Second daughter: Rachel - father's mother - I think this could be correct as well... Boy, the males just don't fall in line though.... ----- Original Message ----- OLD NAMING PATTERNS >The first son was named after the father's father. >The second son was named after the mother's father. >The third son was named after the father. >The fourth son was named after the fathers eldest brother. >The first daughter was named after the mother's mother. >The second daughter was named after the father's mother. >The third daughter was named after the mother. >The fourth daughter was named after the mothers eldest sister, always. ALSO: 2nd wife's oldest daughter named after the first wife, using her full name. Children after those listed above were usually named after a favorite relative with some possible exceptions: If a child died in infancy, a later child might be given the same name. When a newly ordained minister baptized his first child, if that child were a boy, he would be named for the minister, if a girl, she would receive his surname as her middle name. If a child were fostered, usually because of being orphaned, he may be named for the foster parent. If you are sure that you have the earliest birth or baptisms and that they are in the correct order then, if John's first son is named Charles and his second daughter is named Elizabeth then John's parents must be Charles and Elizabeth.___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

I just got an email from the NC State Archive...they tell me the original land grants are not available on microfilm for Orange County or Rowan County NC...they are in paper form at the archive...:( Not sure I can get copies of complete volumns of those like SC...but maybe that might be an option... Char___________________________________________________________ Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com