A ship in TN...or steamship, I was thinking military battleship...but this is interesting...Char ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Marcovecchio Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:59 PM To: KYFAYETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYFAYETT] Missing Ancestors from the Civil War-era? They may ha This information was provided by a kind soul on a newsgroup I sub to: I have "freely" borrowed from his message and edited..... Are you missing a Civil War-era ancestor from Tennessee,Ohio,Indiana,Kentucky,and other states? Keep in mind some men went across to bordering states to sign up. So I would check if my ancestor was also from Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas, etc. That ancestor may have been aboard the steamship Sultana when it exploded and sank 9 miles north of Memphis, TN on 27 April 1865. Nearly 1,500 of the 2,300 aboard ultimately died. Now you can search a *FREE* database of 2,090 known passengers of the Sultana, most of whom were paroled Union soldiers from the states of OH, TN, IN, MI, KY and WVa who had formerly been imprisoned at either Andersonville (Georgia) or Cahaha (Alabama). The database also lists the names of every known crewman and civilian passenger! (c100 additional names!) Who were not Union affiliates. http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Sultana/Sultana.html ==== KYFAYETT Mailing List ==== Search the KYFAYETT List Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYFAYETT ============================== Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! http://searches.rootsweb.com/<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Anyone got George Washington Connections...? Char ----- Original Message ----- From: FMN1949@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:31 PM To: JOBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: George Washington Mauscripts Hi all, I wanted to let all of you know that the manuscripts of President George Washington are now online and you can access them at this address: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gwhtml/gwintro.html Freida ============================== Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life If you know how to reduce these risks. http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

No, they're two different persons. Gabriel Harwell Coats was born before Gabriel Garrett Coats by about 10-15 years I think. I know they knew each other as both were at the Ezekiel Jones-? estate sale in SC in 1814; both of them bought goods at the sale. Gabriel Harwell had a grandson later named Harwell Gabriel Coats.. I've been trying to find out the parents of Gabriel Harwell Coats on the premise there must be a "tie" somewhere in here as the two gabriels are the only gabriels I've found in all the coats,coates records in the southern states. There is one other Gabriel Coats, born 1842 but he lived in Ohio or Indiana all his life expect for his civil war service travels.I think I'm going to be forced to go to Camden,SC and look in the " Coats vertical file of Flat Rock" at the Museum. There is such a file and I'd like to see what's in it.Darn a man that leaves no trails behind him....... grampajoec

Hmmm, so is this Gabriel Harwell Coats different that then Gabriel and Harwell Coats in SC...or was Gabs middle name Harwell...? Char ----- Original Message ----- From: J.Coates Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:03 PM To: * Charlotte Subject: More Bits and Pieces More Bits and Pieces: Indexes of marriages in St. Joseph County, Mi. 1832-1887 shows the following Coats, Coates: Jessee Coates married Sarah Thomas Charles S. Coats married Emma M. Turner Samuel Coats married Elizabeth Miller George S. Coats married Belle Armstrong Sylvester W. Coats married Eva G. Reed Thomas Coats married Mary C. Henson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1850 Dekalb County, Ga. Census Index shows: Henry Coats ------------------------------------------------------------------------- James K. Coats- Mississippi Mounted Rifles, Co. "B", 1st Batallion ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flat Rock Guards, Co. "G", 2nd SC Volunteer Regiment included: Samuel W. Coats, Cpl., died of disease at Bull Run. Henry J. Coats died in Virginia. Gabriel Harwell Coats surrendered.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/stagser/s1400/s1483/html/ssi1483bc2.html More 1900s... Charlotte Work like you don't need the money, Love like you've never been hurt, and Dance like nobody is watching.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/stagser/s1400/s1483/html/ssi1483ac2.html MD has the right idea...there are lots of Coates here...late 1800s.... Charlotte Work like you don't need the money, Love like you've never been hurt, and Dance like nobody is watching.<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

http://mosl.sos.state.mo.us/rec-man/archives/resources/bdrecords/records2.html Look what MO is doing...<g>...Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Looks interesting...Char http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C08FA8.C2A2C9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Newberry Jan.21, 1939 Article taken from the Spartanburg Herald-Journal newspaper; Newberry, Jan.21.-ZACK WRIGHT, president of the Newberry Cotton Mill = and a member of the state highway commission has been named chairman of a= committee to formulate plans for the observance of Newberry's Sesquicen= tennial , which is scheduled to take place on it's 150th anniversary in M= arch. History shows that the town of Newberry was incorporated in March, = 1789. Looking backward one finds that some 40 years or more before the to= wn organization, settlers began to arrive in this section and by 1762, th= e vicinity was pretty well settled. PROPERTY DONATED The beginning of the town is dated from the time when property was = given to erect the public buildings. For some time the county court , a= judicial organization composed of 11 justices which was done away with i= n 1899, argued concerning the location of the public building or a courth= ouse and finally a present was made by 'Little John' COATES of two acres on which to erect a public building. The court decided to build on the pr= operty offered by Coates and thus began the city of Newberry. From a small shop with only a few small homes and one store, the place= then called "Coates Shop', there has been a gradual growth. Little proba= bly did the early settlers think that Newberry would expand and grow to = it's present size. Hardly did they conceive of the schools, churches, col= lege, hospital, libraries, theaters, newspapers, three cotton mills , man= y big business concerns; of charities and benevolences, social groups, of= traffic and trade; of a Newberry whose slogan has become 'The City of Friendly Folks'. LAND FOR COURT From the annals of Newberry, all account of the giving of this land fo= r a courthouse is shown as follows; "At March court, 1789, present, ROBERT RUTHERFORD, JAMES MAYSON, JACOB R= OBERTS BROWN, PHILEMON WATERS, WILLIAM CALDWELL, MERCER BABB and THOMA= S W. WATERS, JUSTICES, it appears from an entry that John Coates made a p= resent to the county of two acres, on which to erect a courthouse, which = was accepted by the vote of all present except; ROBERT RUTHERFORD who obj= ected by reason the place was not centrical. Col. PHILEMON WATERS and WI= LLIAM CALDWELL were directed to lay out two acres of land , which they di= d and returned a platt. It is embraced by the parallegram made by Caldwel= l St. on the east, Pratt St. south, McKibben St. west and Boyce St. nort= h. =20 Titles were made and MR. COATES was called into court and received the t= hanks of the justices for this liberality". Newberry is the home of approx. 10,000 persons, many of them descendan= ts of pioneers of 150 years ago.<br clear=3Dall><hr>Get your FREE downloa= d of MSN Explorer at <a href=3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.= ms

Dear List, Regarding previous correspondence, I should also like to thank Grandpa Joe and Bob, for contacting me. I have now, thanks to your list, found two American cousins, Scott and Julie, probably both descended from the same person from Yorkshire. My best to you all Caroline

It appears the TN State Library and Archive is doing some digital work as well... Probably the library, maybe they're going to see how it goes and then the Archive's will start...<g>...well, it's a thought... Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

http://chiron.gsu.edu/WebZ/html/galileo/homeframe.html:sessionid=01-57131-575359330 GA Libraries digital works... Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/stagser/s1500/s1527/html/ssi1527c.html Maryland State Archive has quite a few records on line...there is a Coates in this list of Marriages... Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Dear List, I had several responses to my query about Family Historians and Genealogists, thanks to: Linda--sorry no Somerset links Charlotte Robbie Steve. Even more interesting possible/very likely links to Scott, which is fantastic. I'll be in touch Scott. Regards CFH Selby, North Yorkshire, United Kingdom Researching: COATES and CHAPMAN of Palmyra, Wayne County, New York State.

Dear List, I am in the UK researching COATES in Yorkshire, that why I am a member, plus some ancestors moved to New York State in the 1840's. I have a question for US researchers, when researching your family lines are you interested in all members of the family i.e. siblings, aunts, cousins etc or is your only goal to extend your knowledge of your direct male line? I ask because I often find the language used to describe your research so different to how I do mine. This is not a criticism just an interested person. No offence intended. In the UK most people would describe themselves as Family Historians and not Genealogists as these people just research pedigrees. I find that this causes confusion when US researchers ask for help in UK. So much for a shared language. Regards CFH Selby, North Yorkshire, United Kingdom Researching: COATES and CHAPMAN of Palmyra, Wayne County, New York State.

Well, I'm still waiting on GA...I finally called the two clerks of court...they both got my letter, but for some reason I get the feeling they don't understand I need a letter of permission back to get that microfilm...but they've both said they would check to see what had happened to my letter...both told me they had never seen anything like that before...might there be a lack of communication between the State Archive and the Courts... Neither Courts object to my getting the microfilm...but I need a letter stating that, to send to the GA Archive....oh, such hoops we must jump... Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

QUESTION Asked of the: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Mary Gaunt married a Coates...but which Coates? Char ----- Original Message ----- From: Valeria Wigington Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:34 AM To: Charlotte Coats; JCoats5982@aol.com Subject: Gaunt Answer: Mary GAUNT married Capt. Wright COATES. Mary was the daughter of Isreal GAUNT & & Hannah SPENCER Ennis GAUNT. So Mary was a half sister of Susannah ENNIS who married "Little" John COATES. I can cut & paste my notes from PAF but not the family group sheets, so here are the notes on this couple, Wright Coates & Mary Gaunt. WRIGHT-GAUNT-NOTES: !SOURCE: Summer, George L. "Newberry County, South Carolina; Hist & Gen Annals" pg.341. Names her as Mary COATE. IGI: Desc of Zebulon GAUNT (S2VX-V0) !SOURCE: Summer, George "Newberry County, South Carolina", P 341 on GILBERT Family states Thomas, son of Caleb & Ann CHANDLER, md Rebecca GAUNTT & moved to Alabama where he died in 1835. He md 2nd Mary......? !SOURCE: Family Group Sheets of Lois GAUNT, (widow of Dewey GAUNT who was from Henderson County, Texas, & is a direct descendent of this Isreal GAUNT & Hannah SPENCER), 353 S Hobson, Mesa, AZ, ph # 602-898-8715 to Joan R Cardon, 14 Sep 1996. Lois gives Mary GAUNT as 2nd wife. !INTERNET: COATES-L@rootsweb.com 98-03-27 by Kay PARKER McCARY mccary@jas.net sent out information she got from Janice BINGLEY, on pg 2 Kay writes about the children of Hannah SPENCER ENNIS GAUNTT [COATE]; Mary GAUNTT , 10 Nov 1772 d 10 Nov 1844 md Wright COATES, son of "Big" John COATES & Rachel. After his death she md 2nd Thomas GILBERT, they moved to Alabama & then to Giles Co., Tennessee, where they were buried. Thomas md her sister Rebecca 1st, & Mary 2nd. !SOURCE: Summer, George L. "Newberry County, South Carolina; Hist & Gen Annals" pg. 325 & 341. !SOURCE: "Newberry County SC Probate Estate Abstracts" Vol 1 PP 182-3 Will of ISREAL GAUNT 1800- Box 8, p 5. petition for money left them in will. !SOURCE: O'Neall & Chapman, "Annals of Newberry" p 164, Fairfield Co. section. McMAHAN, David of Union vs Wright & James COATE of Newberry--cotton. Laurens equity 1809-2. p 214-same case adds name of Jesse COATS-a man of color who seems to be Wright's servant-a driver. Also names Pinkneyville as McMAHAN's residence, Newberry Bk 82 129 to 140. !SOURCE: WFT Chart # 2778 desc of Henry COATE; 1st son John b abt 1747 in South Carolina md Rachel WRIGHT b 10 Noc 1747 in Maryland. Chart gives desc of only this one son. Poss Wright COATE was another son based on his name? Date of birth fits in. JRC !SOURCE: "Newberry Co., SC Deeds" , Deed from Wright COATES to William COATES 2 Nov 1802 rec 20 Nov 1802 Book E P 546. Land deeded from John & Henry COATES to Wright 24 Sept 1795 rec 8 Oct 1796. Only two Wright deeds given here. !INTERNET: DRowe85608@aol.com (Doris Jean Rowe) to joancardon@aol.com Contact on internet, information sent by postal mail 30 Jun 1998. Source of children of "Big" John COATES & Rachel WRIGHT. !INTERNET: 7/20/98 12:32:28 PM RE: Coates Bible Found From: Daphne1108@aol.com To: COATES-L@rootsweb.com [Several items went out on the COATES rootweb concerning a COATES Bible found in Chicago & a notice put in March/April 1998 "The Gen. Helper" to return it to any descendents.] Daphne Christopher Crose, Arlington, TX wrote in part: In my research, I have letters from one of my relatives, in which she said that one of my cousins, Royce Christopher of Arlington, TX, & his wife Mildred were in possession of the COATES Bible. After the death of Royce & Mildred, their two daughters began an dispute over their estates. When I contacted one of the daughters in regard to the Bible, she said she did not know what happened to it, but she probably donated it to a mission. I have never seen it, & cannot identify it, but if it is the Bible she got rid of, I would like to know. I have the letter...CHRISTOPHER & COATE families intermarried a lot in the 1700/1800. My G-grandmotherwas a COATS, daughter of Daniel, who was the son of Wright COATS of Newberry SC." Hope this answers the question! JRC

Folks when I think of sources, I think of the original documents...unfortunately, as stated in that Bogus Genealogy article at Ancestry...<g>...isn't that were all those ged files are including mine...anyway, the major trouble with prior genealogies is the fact that in many cases, there isn't any source material cited so you can check it out... Joe pointed out in an email to me that there are a good many errors that are stated but no reference...he also stated that somewhere along the line you run into making a judgment call...that is sorta true to a certain extent...however, it is much better to show the research and documentation and then state there are several theories or the old theory is such and such...if you make a judgment call but don't point out the other possibilities that is not going to benefit anyone in the future either...I suspect with the web, documentation in the future isn't going to be a problem...the problem is going to be the conflicting theories...and unless documentation can be found to solve the theories the family lines will just remain open...this is what there is, this is what is thought and I don't think you can go beyond that...it is indeed a shame that families lines will reach this point... In my McKay line...Robert McKay sr, is said to have come from Freehold NJ, says that in a PA deed, but no other records can be found for him in Freehold NJ, so that is stated in the genealogy...he is said to have come from Scotland, but no documenation has been found of that...and that's the way it's stated in the genealogy.... To do otherwise, as in the Bogus article could easily lead many down the wrong path and as such maybe research in an area where records could be found are not even searched... So, those areas searched that don't produce documents should be stated as well... Remember those in the future may have a mound of papers available via the net... Char...(steping down from her soap box...<g>...)<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Hi ... I came across this bit of information ( you more experienced researchers probably already know but it was new to me ) and I thought I'd forward it. It's about the change from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar and how that affects dates in geneological research. In my case this was in the Duke of Marlborough information http://laura.chinet.com/html/titles11.html Just fyi in case anyone might want the info. sherri coats culpepper >>>> There are a couple of things going on here, I suspect. Between 1583 and 1752, there is this little annoying problem called "Old Style Dates." England and her colonies finally adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1752. Before then, the official start date of the year was March 25. So March 24, 1702 was followed the next day by March 25, 1703. This is very weird to us in the 20th century. It results in confusion when talking about dates between January 1st and March 24th within this range of years. It is further exacerbated by the fact that well before the official change in 1752 of the new year from March 25th to January 1st, the "New Style" new year was becoming increasing popular. Furthermore, because of the error of the Julian calendar there was a discrepancy between the actual dates in each calendar. <<<< ----- Original Message ----- From: * Charlotte <coats@hotmail.com> To: <COATES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:16 AM Subject: [COATES-L] Newburyport 1790 Census > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8028/cen1790.htm > > > David Coates here...<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p> > > > ==== COATES Mailing List ==== > To > unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to > COATES-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > COATES-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) >

http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/george/3225.asp Really interesting...Char<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>