Greetings all, I have been back at this for almost a month now...and I have gotten to a few stopping points with no luck. On my mother's side I have been able to trace back to the 1700s on one lineage, and to Ireland in the 1500s on another. But on my father's side...THE CLOUD side, I have hit a brick wall. Ken's Cloudweb.org site is great, but it looks like either I am not connected to Wiliam Cloud, or the connections have not been established. It does mention my Great-Great-Grandfather, John William Cloud, however, the information is limited. Infact the information provided by Jim Brewton lists John William's first 2 children, but not my Great-Grandfather, John Edward Cloud. I know that the John William listed is my GGGF because of his wife listed, Marie Ann Prasuhn, and his 2 children that are listed, Aunt Alta [Alta K] and Uncle Al [Albert William]. I hope that I have not bored you with this long post, but I am hoping that someone out there recognizes these names and can help me. I hope everyone has a very happy holiday. John E. Cloud, Jr. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/