Ken Cloud wrote: >In my data I have a Syrene (Cyrene) Drake married to a Daniel Cloud. I >think your folks might fit into this family. Look on my web page for her >and look at the family. They had a son Edward born in 1848 and the family >appears to be from Ohio Co. Ind. I may just not have the John William, but >there is a child of Edward a John H. bn Oct 1876. > > Mr. Ken: I think that your child of Edward Cloud, John H. Cloud; bn Oct 1876, is the John William Cloud of John's family. The 1900 census for Marian Co., Ind page 127 shows EDW CLOUD (50) bn: Dec 1849; his wife ELIZA (45) bn: Dec 1854, and his son JNO W. (23) bn: Oct 1876. I take the "W" initial to stand for WILLIAM even though some readers might interpret the initial as "H" as you show in your data. My theory is reinforced by the 1910 census for Marion County, Ind page 125 which shows JOHN W. CLOUD (34) with a son JOHN (6) and a son RICHARD (4). On the same page is EDWARD CLOUD (61) and his wife ELIZA (57). A quick thought on the spelling of the wife of Daniel Cloud which you show as SYRENE or CYRENE. I have not seen the 1850 census referred to by John, but the 1860 census for Ohio Co., Ind page 431 shows the name to be either CIRENE or SIRENE and the name is very hard to read. However, the 1870 census for Ohio Co., Ind page 423 shows a more legible recording of the name which I interpret to be "SIRENE". Of course, we are all subject to the interpretations of the census taker and those interpretations need confirmation of other documents. Ken, my last word is to thank you for an outstanding CLOUD data base and I pray that you will keep up the good work. Rex Sanders > > >>Hard to read...starts with a S or D or C >> >>according to my records it is Cyrene or Syrene >> >>JC >> >>Ken Cloud <kec@cox.net> wrote: >>Now, who was listed as wife of Daniel? >> >>Ken >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "John Cloud" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:03 PM >>Subject: Re: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage >> >> >> >> >>>Daniel Cloud is the Head of Household >>> >>>Ken Cloud wrote:If Edward was age 1, he had to be listed >>> >>> >>with a family, and I assume the >> >> >>>family leader would be his father. Who was he. >>> >>>Ken >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "John Cloud" >>>To: >>>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:32 PM >>>Subject: Re: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Right... >>>> >>>>JC >>>> >>>>Ken Cloud wrote: >>>>Who is the census listing for, I would assume for edward age 1? >>>> >>>>Ken >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "John Cloud" >>>>To: >>>>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 12:41 PM >>>>Subject: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>All, >>>>> >>>>>I finally got my hands on the Ohio County, Indiana 1850 Census. >>>>> >>>>>There are 8 children listed. One of them, Edward [age 1 on the >>>>> >>>>> >>census - >> >> >>>>was born December 1848], is my GGG-Grandfather. His son was John >>>> >>>> >William > > >>>>Cloud born in 1875. His son was John Edward Cloud. His son was John >>>> >>>> >>Leroy >> >> >>>>Cloud, my grandfather who was born in 20 Feb 1928. My father, John >>>> >>>> >Earl > > >>>>Cloud, Sr. was born 1949. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Ken, what do you think? >>>>> >>>>>Hope all are well. >>>>> >>>>>John Cloud >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--------------------------------- >>>>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>>>New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>>>................................................................ >>>>>Check out the Cloud Family mirror site: http://mykindred.com/cloud >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>>.................................................................. >>>>Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at >>>>http://raogk.rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------- >>>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>>Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. >>>> >>>> >>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>>.................................................................. >>>>Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >>>>Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >>>>Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>.............................................................. >>>Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------- >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! >>> >>> >>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>.................................................................. >>>Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at >>>http://raogk.rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>.................................................................. >>Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >>Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >>Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! >> >> >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >> .................................................................. >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >> Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >> >> >> >> > > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > >

Rex, thank you for elaborating on what I was/am trying to say. I am very pleased to see my hard work coming together. If you would like to view the 1850 census, I can take some screen shots and send them to you. JC REX <rexsanders1@earthlink.net> wrote: Ken Cloud wrote: >In my data I have a Syrene (Cyrene) Drake married to a Daniel Cloud. I >think your folks might fit into this family. Look on my web page for her >and look at the family. They had a son Edward born in 1848 and the family >appears to be from Ohio Co. Ind. I may just not have the John William, but >there is a child of Edward a John H. bn Oct 1876. > > Mr. Ken: I think that your child of Edward Cloud, John H. Cloud; bn Oct 1876, is the John William Cloud of John's family. The 1900 census for Marian Co., Ind page 127 shows EDW CLOUD (50) bn: Dec 1849; his wife ELIZA (45) bn: Dec 1854, and his son JNO W. (23) bn: Oct 1876. I take the "W" initial to stand for WILLIAM even though some readers might interpret the initial as "H" as you show in your data. My theory is reinforced by the 1910 census for Marion County, Ind page 125 which shows JOHN W. CLOUD (34) with a son JOHN (6) and a son RICHARD (4). On the same page is EDWARD CLOUD (61) and his wife ELIZA (57). A quick thought on the spelling of the wife of Daniel Cloud which you show as SYRENE or CYRENE. I have not seen the 1850 census referred to by John, but the 1860 census for Ohio Co., Ind page 431 shows the name to be either CIRENE or SIRENE and the name is very hard to read. However, the 1870 census for Ohio Co., Ind page 423 shows a more legible recording of the name which I interpret to be "SIRENE". Of course, we are all subject to the interpretations of the census taker and those interpretations need confirmation of other documents. Ken, my last word is to thank you for an outstanding CLOUD data base and I pray that you will keep up the good work. Rex Sanders > > >>Hard to read...starts with a S or D or C >> >>according to my records it is Cyrene or Syrene >> >>JC >> >>Ken Cloud wrote: >>Now, who was listed as wife of Daniel? >> >>Ken >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "John Cloud" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:03 PM >>Subject: Re: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage >> >> >> >> >>>Daniel Cloud is the Head of Household >>> >>>Ken Cloud wrote:If Edward was age 1, he had to be listed >>> >>> >>with a family, and I assume the >> >> >>>family leader would be his father. Who was he. >>> >>>Ken >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "John Cloud" >>>To: >>>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:32 PM >>>Subject: Re: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Right... >>>> >>>>JC >>>> >>>>Ken Cloud wrote: >>>>Who is the census listing for, I would assume for edward age 1? >>>> >>>>Ken >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "John Cloud" >>>>To: >>>>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 12:41 PM >>>>Subject: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>All, >>>>> >>>>>I finally got my hands on the Ohio County, Indiana 1850 Census. >>>>> >>>>>There are 8 children listed. One of them, Edward [age 1 on the >>>>> >>>>> >>census - >> >> >>>>was born December 1848], is my GGG-Grandfather. His son was John >>>> >>>> >William > > >>>>Cloud born in 1875. His son was John Edward Cloud. His son was John >>>> >>>> >>Leroy >> >> >>>>Cloud, my grandfather who was born in 20 Feb 1928. My father, John >>>> >>>> >Earl > > >>>>Cloud, Sr. was born 1949. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Ken, what do you think? >>>>> >>>>>Hope all are well. >>>>> >>>>>John Cloud >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--------------------------------- >>>>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>>>New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>>>................................................................ >>>>>Check out the Cloud Family mirror site: http://mykindred.com/cloud >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>>.................................................................. >>>>Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at >>>>http://raogk.rootsweb.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------- >>>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>>Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. >>>> >>>> >>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>>.................................................................. >>>>Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >>>>Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >>>>Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>.............................................................. >>>Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------- >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! >>> >>> >>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>>.................................................................. >>>Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at >>>http://raogk.rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>.................................................................. >>Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >>Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >>Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! >> >> >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >> .................................................................. >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >> Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >> >> >> >> > > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud ... http://mykindred.com/cloud --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

Rex Thanks for the input, I know John will appreciate any help he gets. Looks like we may have given him a better handle on his Clouds. I will add your info to the data. Concering the database, I dont do any research anymore, so the info in the database is derived only from input from folks like you and John and many others. I try to filter input from folks, but have found that most of them have sent good info. My only hope is that good, bad or indifferent that the info helps folks with their research. I really hate when folks won't share their research, thus making other folks have plow the same ground so to speak. I now that the majority of researchers are becoming older and older and I just want to try and make it so that we have info available for the younger researchers just starting out. My wife niece just became interested in her line and finding some things has really peaked her interest. It is fun to watch them get the bug. Guess thats enough rambling for now. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "REX" <rexsanders1@earthlink.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage > Ken Cloud wrote: > > >In my data I have a Syrene (Cyrene) Drake married to a Daniel Cloud. I > >think your folks might fit into this family. Look on my web page for her > >and look at the family. They had a son Edward born in 1848 and the family > >appears to be from Ohio Co. Ind. I may just not have the John William, but > >there is a child of Edward a John H. bn Oct 1876. > > > > > > Mr. Ken: I think that your child of Edward Cloud, John H. Cloud; bn > Oct 1876, is the John William > Cloud of John's family. The 1900 census for Marian Co., Ind page 127 shows > EDW CLOUD (50) bn: Dec 1849; his wife ELIZA (45) bn: Dec 1854, and his > son JNO W. (23) bn: Oct 1876. > > I take the "W" initial to stand for WILLIAM even though some readers > might interpret the initial as "H" as > you show in your data. My theory is reinforced by the 1910 census for > Marion County, Ind page 125 which > shows JOHN W. CLOUD (34) with a son JOHN (6) and a son RICHARD (4). > On the same page is > EDWARD CLOUD (61) and his wife ELIZA (57). > > A quick thought on the spelling of the wife of Daniel Cloud which > you show as SYRENE or CYRENE. > I have not seen the 1850 census referred to by John, but the 1860 census > for Ohio Co., Ind page 431 shows > the name to be either CIRENE or SIRENE and the name is very hard to > read. However, the 1870 census for > Ohio Co., Ind page 423 shows a more legible recording of the name which > I interpret to be "SIRENE". Of > course, we are all subject to the interpretations of the census taker > and those interpretations need confirmation > of other documents. > > Ken, my last word is to thank you for an outstanding CLOUD data base > and I pray that you will keep up > the good work. Rex Sanders > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Hard to read...starts with a S or D or C > >> > >>according to my records it is Cyrene or Syrene > >> > >>JC > >> > >>Ken Cloud <kec@cox.net> wrote: > >>Now, who was listed as wife of Daniel? > >> > >>Ken > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "John Cloud" > >>To: > >>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:03 PM > >>Subject: Re: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Daniel Cloud is the Head of Household > >>> > >>>Ken Cloud wrote:If Edward was age 1, he had to be listed > >>> > >>> > >>with a family, and I assume the > >> > >> > >>>family leader would be his father. Who was he. > >>> > >>>Ken > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "John Cloud" > >>>To: > >>>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:32 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Right... > >>>> > >>>>JC > >>>> > >>>>Ken Cloud wrote: > >>>>Who is the census listing for, I would assume for edward age 1? > >>>> > >>>>Ken > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "John Cloud" > >>>>To: > >>>>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 12:41 PM > >>>>Subject: [CLOUD] my addition to the William Cloud lineage > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>All, > >>>>> > >>>>>I finally got my hands on the Ohio County, Indiana 1850 Census. > >>>>> > >>>>>There are 8 children listed. One of them, Edward [age 1 on the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>census - > >> > >> > >>>>was born December 1848], is my GGG-Grandfather. His son was John > >>>> > >>>> > >William > > > > > >>>>Cloud born in 1875. His son was John Edward Cloud. His son was John > >>>> > >>>> > >>Leroy > >> > >> > >>>>Cloud, my grandfather who was born in 20 Feb 1928. My father, John > >>>> > >>>> > >Earl > > > > > >>>>Cloud, Sr. was born 1949. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Ken, what do you think? > >>>>> > >>>>>Hope all are well. > >>>>> > >>>>>John Cloud > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>--------------------------------- > >>>>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>>>New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >>>>>................................................................ > >>>>>Check out the Cloud Family mirror site: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >>>>.................................................................. > >>>>Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > >>>>http://raogk.rootsweb.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>--------------------------------- > >>>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>>Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >>>>.................................................................. > >>>>Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > >>>>Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > >>>>Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >>>.............................................................. > >>>Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>--------------------------------- > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > >>> > >>> > >>>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >>>.................................................................. > >>>Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > >>>http://raogk.rootsweb.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >>.................................................................. > >>Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > >>Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > >>Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------- > >>Do you Yahoo!? > >>Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > >> > >> > >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >> .................................................................. > >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > >> Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .................................................................. > > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > > Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud ... http://mykindred.com/cloud > >