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    1. Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud, Ayers, Middleton, Chadwell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3 Message Board Post: My wife Margaret Alice Young is the daughter of Eula Cloud b. 18 Sep 1908 Rose Hill, Virginia the daughter of William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA d. 28 Jul 1929 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA. and Sarah Ellen Fugate b. 10 Mar 1884 Lee Co. VA. William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin "Frank" Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA and Margaret Jane Ayers b. Jan 1843 Lee Co. VA. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] is the son of George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA and Elizabeth Chadwell b. 1804 Rose Hill, VA [daughter of David Chadwell Jr. and Nancy Lane. George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 TN and Mary (Polly) Chadwell b. 30 Aug 1777 Pittsylvania [now Henry] County, VA. [Mary (Polly) Chadwell was the daughter of David Chadwell Sr. and Elizabeth Morgan. She was first married to Walter Middleton] Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] should not be confused with Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 Claiborne County, TN d. Dizney, Harland Co. KY. married to Nancy Middleton b. Sept 1827 daughter of Walter Middleton II and Sarah (Sally) Turner. Both of the above can be found in the census at the same time, the first Benjamin Franlin in Rose Hill, VA and the other Benjamin Franklin lived for a short time in Rocky Station, Lee Co. VA. The dates of birth is the first clue plus the pension file of Benjamin b. 1826 filed by Nancy. A careful review of the Rose Hill, Lee County, Virgina for each 10 year period will demonstrate that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 is the son of George W. Cloud b. 1810. Further, from the census Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 seems to be the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 Henry Co. VA and Barthena Cox b. 1800 VA. Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 was the brother of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 mentioned above and both were sons of Captain William Cloud b. 17 Dec 1750 NC and Elizabeth Morgan second wife of William. Complicating the matter further is the fact that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 had a son by the same name i.e. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1802 married to Elizabeth Mahulda Shultz. I believe a close study of the various related persons named Benjamin Franklin Cloud in the census data for each year will convince you that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 married to Nancy Middleton is the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1795 and Barthena Cox simply because all others are accounted for and the family of Greenbury fits the data in the 1840 Census and the others do not. Margaret and I spent quite a lot of time in the Court House in Jonesboro, Lee County, VA; Harlan County, KY court house; and the court house in Clayborne TN. We made copies of the documents including the marriage licens of Benjamin Franklin Cloud and Nancy Middleton. Further, we have old family pictures of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834; Margaret Ayers; and their son William Steven Cloud, my wife Margaret's grandfather. We visited the Leftwich-Edds Cemetary where her grandfather and her baby brothers are buried and discussed this with living relatives. We also spent time in the local libraries is each area and made copies of the land records in these areas. Margaret and her brother and sisters were born there in Rose Hill and they have various living family members still living there. My first visit there with Margaret was about 1961 when several of the older people were still living.

    07/13/2006 04:47:47
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Jeanette
    3. mrjga@aol.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Cloud, Ayers, Middleton, Chadwell >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3 > >Message Board Post: > >My wife Margaret Alice Young is the daughter of Eula Cloud b. 18 Sep 1908 Rose Hill, Virginia the daughter of William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA d. 28 Jul 1929 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA. and Sarah Ellen Fugate b. 10 Mar 1884 Lee Co. VA. > >William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin "Frank" Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA and Margaret Jane Ayers b. Jan 1843 Lee Co. VA. > >Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] is the son of George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA and Elizabeth Chadwell b. 1804 Rose Hill, VA [daughter of David Chadwell Jr. and Nancy Lane. > >George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 TN and Mary (Polly) Chadwell b. 30 Aug 1777 Pittsylvania [now Henry] County, VA. [Mary (Polly) Chadwell was the daughter of David Chadwell Sr. and Elizabeth Morgan. She was first married to Walter Middleton] > >Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] should not be confused with Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 Claiborne County, TN d. Dizney, Harland Co. KY. married to Nancy Middleton b. Sept 1827 daughter of Walter Middleton II and Sarah (Sally) Turner. > >Both of the above can be found in the census at the same time, the first Benjamin Franlin in Rose Hill, VA and the other Benjamin Franklin lived for a short time in Rocky Station, Lee Co. VA. The dates of birth is the first clue plus the pension file of Benjamin b. 1826 filed by Nancy. > >A careful review of the Rose Hill, Lee County, Virgina for each 10 year period will demonstrate that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 is the son of George W. Cloud b. 1810. > >Further, from the census Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 seems to be the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 Henry Co. VA and Barthena Cox b. 1800 VA. Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 was the brother of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 mentioned above and both were sons of Captain William Cloud b. 17 Dec 1750 NC and Elizabeth Morgan second wife of William. > >Complicating the matter further is the fact that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 had a son by the same name i.e. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1802 married to Elizabeth Mahulda Shultz. > >I believe a close study of the various related persons named Benjamin Franklin Cloud in the census data for each year will convince you that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 married to Nancy Middleton is the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1795 and Barthena Cox simply because all others are accounted for and the family of Greenbury fits the data in the 1840 Census and the others do not. > >Margaret and I spent quite a lot of time in the Court House in Jonesboro, Lee County, VA; Harlan County, KY court house; and the court house in Clayborne TN. We made copies of the documents including the marriage licens of Benjamin Franklin Cloud and Nancy Middleton. Further, we have old family pictures of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834; Margaret Ayers; and their son William Steven Cloud, my wife Margaret's grandfather. We visited the Leftwich-Edds Cemetary where her grandfather and her baby brothers are buried and discussed this with living relatives. We also spent time in the local libraries is each area and made copies of the land records in these areas. Margaret and her brother and sisters were born there in Rose Hill and they have various living family members still living there. My first visit there with Margaret was about 1961 when several of the older people were still living. > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > Thank you for the information. My grandfather Benjamin Franklin Cloud was married twice. I don't know his first wife. He married a Martha Shoemaker from Virginia. I think he had 8 children by Martha. My mother being the youngest. Her name was Octavia born April 11th 1917 and died February 25th 2000. She had, I think 2 brothers, Tilman and Harrison, and 6 sisters. I only knew Matilda, Ida, and Doxie. The other two were Alberta, and I think, Mae. I think they were all born in Dizney Ky. Again, thank you for the information. Jeanette Emmett Lewis

    07/14/2006 07:10:25
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Harry Hogan
    3. One question: if Benj. F. Cloud b. 1777 (son of Capt. William) was married to Mary (Chadwell) Middleton, who was the Benj. F. Cloud married to Susanna Bondurant? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: <mrjga@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:47 AM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Cloud, Ayers, Middleton, Chadwell > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3 > > Message Board Post: > > My wife Margaret Alice Young is the daughter of Eula Cloud b. 18 Sep 1908 > Rose Hill, Virginia the daughter of William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 > Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA d. 28 Jul 1929 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA. and Sarah > Ellen Fugate b. 10 Mar 1884 Lee Co. VA. > > William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee County, VA was the son > of Benjamin Franklin "Frank" Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA and > Margaret Jane Ayers b. Jan 1843 Lee Co. VA. > > Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to > Margaret Jane Ayers] is the son of George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick > County, VA and Elizabeth Chadwell b. 1804 Rose Hill, VA [daughter of David > Chadwell Jr. and Nancy Lane. > > George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA was the son of Benjamin > Franklin Cloud b. 1777 TN and Mary (Polly) Chadwell b. 30 Aug 1777 > Pittsylvania [now Henry] County, VA. [Mary (Polly) Chadwell was the > daughter of David Chadwell Sr. and Elizabeth Morgan. She was first > married to Walter Middleton] > > Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to > Margaret Jane Ayers] should not be confused with Benjamin Franklin Cloud > b. 1826 Claiborne County, TN d. Dizney, Harland Co. KY. married to Nancy > Middleton b. Sept 1827 daughter of Walter Middleton II and Sarah (Sally) > Turner. > > Both of the above can be found in the census at the same time, the first > Benjamin Franlin in Rose Hill, VA and the other Benjamin Franklin lived > for a short time in Rocky Station, Lee Co. VA. The dates of birth is the > first clue plus the pension file of Benjamin b. 1826 filed by Nancy. > > A careful review of the Rose Hill, Lee County, Virgina for each 10 year > period will demonstrate that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 is the > son of George W. Cloud b. 1810. > > Further, from the census Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 seems to be the > son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 Henry Co. VA and Barthena Cox b. 1800 VA. > Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 was the brother of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 > mentioned above and both were sons of Captain William Cloud b. 17 Dec 1750 > NC and Elizabeth Morgan second wife of William. > > Complicating the matter further is the fact that Benjamin Franklin Cloud > b. 1777 had a son by the same name i.e. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1802 > married to Elizabeth Mahulda Shultz. > > I believe a close study of the various related persons named Benjamin > Franklin Cloud in the census data for each year will convince you that > Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 married to Nancy Middleton is the son of > Greenbury Cloud b. 1795 and Barthena Cox simply because all others are > accounted for and the family of Greenbury fits the data in the 1840 Census > and the others do not. > > Margaret and I spent quite a lot of time in the Court House in Jonesboro, > Lee County, VA; Harlan County, KY court house; and the court house in > Clayborne TN. We made copies of the documents including the marriage > licens of Benjamin Franklin Cloud and Nancy Middleton. Further, we have > old family pictures of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834; Margaret > Ayers; and their son William Steven Cloud, my wife Margaret's grandfather. > We visited the Leftwich-Edds Cemetary where her grandfather and her baby > brothers are buried and discussed this with living relatives. We also > spent time in the local libraries is each area and made copies of the land > records in these areas. Margaret and her brother and sisters were born > there in Rose Hill and they have various living family members still > living there. My first visit there with Margaret was about 1961 when > several of the older people were still living. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

    07/14/2006 09:52:50