This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CLOUD, SEYBOLD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/857.3 Message Board Post: Janet and DeAnne Please see the information I have for the Joseph Britten Cloud family at http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I67245&tree=mykindred01 or Search at http://mykindred.com/ I don't have a daughter Mary jane or Nancy there, much less a marriage for them. I would like to have them, if you don't mind. My most recent research for this branch of our Cloud family has been with Joseph's grandparents, Joseph Cloud and Jane Carpenter. I have listed there all census and other information for them and their descendants (that I could find) -- and would appreciate any corrections or anything you think ought to be added. There is a "Suggestion" button where you can post things for each person, or just write me. WRT Wiley Van Buren Cloud dying in I.T. ... my Cloud line split up and my g-grandfather went to I.T. It is interesting how all of those descendants think they have Indian blood, partly because they were born and grew up on various Indian Reservations ... while the other branches, that did not migrate to I.T. have no such stories (about having Indian blood). My grand-aunt, Idumea Seybold Moore (grandma Cloud's sister), even filed for citizenship with the Cherokee Nation, going so far as to get an old chieftan to lie for her about knowing her (deceased) parents and how they were Indian, which they were not. Her application is in the rejected file! I think many of them were so poor, they were looking for any way to get by.