Hi Folks: If you or a friend have been having problems the last couple of days signing on to AOL, you are they are most likely been using a Norton Security program that has been malfunctioning. An article on page D-2 in the Business Section of the Washington post newspaper for Saturday, explains how to go about temporarily deactivating the Norton program so that you can get in to AOL and the Internet, where you can then update the Norton program and restart your computer. Good luck to you or your friend. Tom King, Sr. Near Leesburg, VA

Just because some member of an Indian tribe somewhere back in the distant past had a name like Red Cloud, Black Cloud, or some other Cloud name doesn't prove that your Cloud ggg grandmother was a full blooded Indian. Before you attempt to claim Indian ancestry, please do one of the following: (1) search the Dawes Indian rolls until you find the name of your ancestor or (2) log on to the web page of any and all of the Indian tribes and read what is required for you to be added to their membership rolls. There aren't any shortcuts. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net

I am trying to uncover information regard Ruth Ann Cloud b. 1826 in VA; d 1896. Married James W. VanDolah b 5/13/1821 d 12/20/1894. I have been told she is Blackfoot and Cherokee Indian, I would like any information regarding her heritage. Thanks for your time. "There is a very fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line. - Oscar Levant" "Growing old is mandatory, growing wise is optional." "Snowmen fall from Heaven unassembled." Robbie Sanders robbiesanders@yahoo.com http://www.alternative-designs.net Home Phone Number 410-335-1727 Cell Phone Number 443-255-0756

Extremely rare Republic of Texas #19 Land Certificate for a John Trussell, for his service in the Texian Army, which is still on file original listing from 1839,;at the Brazoria Court House in Angleton, Texas.; Purchased from the late Thomas Bain of Dallas, many years ago.; Contains;heros of Texas's war with Mexico signatures.; Edward Purcell, *** J. W. Cloud *** ( Cloud was an active and;major historical figure in early Texas and Brazoria, Texas history) & etc.; This document has some tears and aging, but it is all visiable in my photos.; See photos and feel free to email me any questions.; Shipping, insurance & handling $12.85 USA, more for elsewhere.; Thank you for looking and please check out the other Texas items I will be selling over the next few months. 1839 Brazoria County Land Certificate Republic of Texas Military Army War, San Jacinto, Mexico, John Trussell Item number: 6541823884 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6541823884&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/189.2.1 Message Board Post: Jamie, It is nice to learn about you and your family. There is some data at the site http://mykindred.com/ But it doesn't have the details you have provided. For example, there is no sister to Polly named Sarah, and the children of Polly are not there.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/189.2 Message Board Post: I am a descendent of Polly Cloud and Lawrence Brock. My gg grandmother was their first child named Sarah Ann Brock. !st married a Teague, then William B. Johnson. Their children were: Nan Simpson, Liza Jeralds, Joe Johnson, Lawrence Johnson who married Nancy Dalton of Coker Creek, TN My g grand father was Lawrence Johnson form Englewood, Tn Let me know if you have any further info Famliy elders tell us that Polly and Sarah Cloud were 2 cherokee sisters that married the 2 Brock Brothers, Henry and Lawrence to keep from being removed on the trail of tears, by being hidden in the nearby hills. They were married May 24, 1838, at Liberty Hill Church of Christ close to Englewood, TN and lived in the hills nearby.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/907 Message Board Post: I am search of any information reguarding James D. Cloud In or around Richmond Va. I am the Great-Grandson of James and I know little Information about him except through my grandfather Douglas Nelson Cloud of Martinsburg Wv.born 1924 who passed away on May 5th 2005. Any information would be useful. Thank you.

Wow that sure looks like a match to me. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Cloud [mailto:tcloud@austin.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:18 PM To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CLOUD] compare CLOUD pictures I was looking at Elizabeth Cloud's picture and thought she looked a lot like my grand aunt, Mary Cloud. Tell me what you think (Elizabeth was 72 years older than Mary): Elizabeth Cloud Shelley (1810-1888) http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/showphoto.php?personID=I101949&tree=mykindred0 1&ordernum=1 Mary Cloud Hobgood Raines (1882-1951) http://www.mykindred.com/cloud/TX/showphoto.php?personID=I1153&tree=mykindre d01&ordernum=1 Tom ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? Submit a brief description of your ancestry.

Tom, Jimmy Jones" line is from Elisha Cloud through Elisha's son James Washington, brother to my William Wilson -- ORN

Found him: Cloud, William, Rev. J. Feb 22, 1894 Oct 26, 1962 Lower Green's Creek Cemetery, Erath County, TX It is located 5 miles SW of Stephenville off of Hwy 377, on the south side of the hwy. Very nicely kept up, accessible by the public. Graves face east/west. Some shade trees. Partly fenced, the entrance side is open to the hwy.

I was looking at Elizabeth Cloud's picture and thought she looked a lot like my grand aunt, Mary Cloud. Tell me what you think (Elizabeth was 72 years older than Mary): Elizabeth Cloud Shelley (1810-1888) http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/showphoto.php?personID=I101949&tree=mykindred01&ordernum=1 Mary Cloud Hobgood Raines (1882-1951) http://www.mykindred.com/cloud/TX/showphoto.php?personID=I1153&tree=mykindred01&ordernum=1 Tom

The mykindred site has had major updates -- which should help our research efforts. ..... most recently, from Sharon Cullers McChrystal, the CLOUD line of William Cloud (1780/86 SC - 1832 GA) and Sarah (ca 1790 SC - 1860/70 AL) parents of: Henry C. Cloud (1909 - 1870/80 GA) Elisha Cloud (ca 1809 - 1871 TX) Elizabeth Cloud (1810 SC - 1888 AL) Elijah Cloud (1813 - ca 1880 GA) Catherine Cloud (1825 - GA) Lucinda Cloud (1827 - 1882 GA) John M. Cloud (1828 - 1897 GA) This is the line of members Olive Ruth Nabors, Glenn Cress, Sharon McChrystal and (I think) our CFA president, Jimmy Jones. (I can't figure out where in all of this his line is.) The URL for William Cloud is: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/pedigree_men.php?personID=I56286&tree=mykindred01 A nice picture from Sharon of daughter Elizabeth is at: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I101949&tree=mykindred01 and a picture of an article about her at: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/showphoto.php?personID=I101949&tree=mykindred01&ordernum=2 As always -- corrections, additions and suggestions are solicited. sincerely, Tom Cloud

I apologize for taking so long to update the DNA results. The results and the pedigree chart have been updated. Results: http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/results/cdnareport.php Pedigrees: http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/Pedigrees3.htm The new kit is #48334 -- it's at the bottom of both charts. To refresh how I've done this: The Pedigree chart shows the lines of each test kit -- organized as the submitted data indicates it should go. The lines at the bottom are those that cannot find evidence of their ancestry beyond what is shown. The Results page shows how each test compares to the others. The columns to the right show: - DIFF the simple difference between each test -- absolute value) - GenDis 12 right now this just shows the simple diff for 12 markers - GenDis 25 right now this just shows the simple diff for 25 markers - GenDis 37 right now this just shows the simple diff for 37 markers For example, to see how the new kit #48334 might fit into the family tree, click on it on the Results page. - since it only has 25 markers, the GenDis column for 37 markers is empty. - look for kits with the lowest numbers in the DIFF column. (The GenDis columns will, at some later date, show a computation for Genetic Distance.) #48344 results: - 0 difference with 34238 -- but that kit is only 12 markers, so it's not very definitive. - It has a simple DIFF of 2 with kit 35531, but that kit only has 12 markers also, so it's not very definitive. - A simple DIFF of 3 with kits 32519, 33084 and 32806. - A simple DIFF of 4 with kit 41880. A look at the Pedigree chart will show the lines this kit is more closely aligned with (those kits mentioned above). Note that the simple DIFFerences can be deceiving, and a Genetic Distance computation is available from Family Tree DNA that gives a much more accurate indication. thanks, Tom Cloud

I'M NOT SURE IF I THANKED YOU FOR YOU INFORMATION. I AM TRYING TO TRACE THE FAMILY THAT YOU MENTIONED. IT SEEMS THAT THE CLOUD FAMILY IS A VERY HARD NUT TO CRACK. THERE ARE A LOT OF MISSING LINKS. AGAIN, THANKS! JON LOCKHART ----- Original Message ----- From: <MRJGA@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] JOSEPH CLOUD > My wife is a Cloud descendent and we have done quite a lot of research on > her > family. If I were you I would research the area around the Cumberland Gap > were the States of Kentucky, Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee > intersect. > In general an entire line of the Cloud family originating in England, > landed > in New Castle, Delaware and migrated west and down the Wilderness path by > way > of Frederick, Maryland and further down to North Carolina and a few even > further into South Carolina, some then going west county by county to Lee > County, > Virgina and then on to Tazwell, Tennessee and Kentucky. Later, some > moved into > Kentucky and up to Indiana. > > I suggest you research the family of Captain William Cloud b. 17 Sep 1750 > in > North Carolina. I have a hunch your Cloud is a descendent. > > Ron Wilson > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/906 Message Board Post: There are a few "Cloud" names with details here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=5673755466 I will also do single look ups for $3 missyfussy@peoplepc.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/904.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dawn, I can't find anything -- I'm sorry. Don't give up: (1) -- suggest you join the Cloud email group send the word subscribe to .. cloud-L-request@rootsweb.com and ask your question there -- the people there are very nice and helpful, if they have anything to offer ... give as much information as you can. (2) -- if you know of a Cloud male from that line, have them join the Cloud DNA Project http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/904.1.1 Message Board Post: This is the informaiton I have- She married my great great grandfather-Abrham Hoffman in 1850. SHe was born in 1830. We found a bastardy bond for her and her mother was listed as Elizabeth Martin and the father Terrill Cloud. We have nothing else on Elizabeth Martin or Terrill cloud. No exact birthdate- we do know that Elizabeth Martin marrieid a Stillwell later but that is it. Any help you can give me would be appreciated. Dk

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/904.1 Message Board Post: Dawn, Do you have any dates or other information?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/905 Message Board Post: I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON JOSEPH CLOUD WHO APPEARED ON THE 1820 CENSUS IN WASH. CO., IND.. THE CLOUD FAMILY WAS IN THIS COUNTY BY 1813 AND WERE POSSIBLY THERE BY 1810. HIS CHILDREN MAY HAVE INCLUDED ABIGAIL B. 1810 AND MIRIAM. BOTH JOSEPH AND HIS UNK. WIFE WERE BORN IN N.C..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/904 Message Board Post: I am looking on any information I can get on Lavinia Cloud- We know her mother is Elizabeth Martin married A Mr. Stilwell. Lived around Burker Cunty NC If you can help- please e-mail me! Thanks Dk