Hi- I am looking for any information that one might have on Lavinia Martin/cloud- Her mother was Elizbeth Martin and her Father was Terrill Cloud- Elizabeht Martin married a John Stilwell and Lavinia married Hoffman. We are looking for information on this line any help would be appreciated. Dk

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud, Clark, Semora, Gilbreath, Hulgan, Woelfel, King Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/923 Message Board Post: Dorothy Cloud Clark, born February 26, 1932 in Austin, died February 4, 1991. A Houston resident for 58 years. She is survived by her mother Birdie Ethel Cloud, sister Peggy Semora, children Elliott Lee Gilbreath, Brenda Woelfel Hulgan, Russell Woelfel, Leslye King. 9 grandchildren, 1 great-grandchild. Graveside services will be held Thursday at 1:30pm at Memorial Oaks Cemetery, Katy Freeway and Eldridge Street. -- published in the Houston (TX) Chronicle 6 Feb 1991. Transcriber is not a relative and has no further information regarding this family.

In a message dated 6/4/06 4:51:31 PM, tcloud@austin.rr.com writes: > Is there anyone who is connected to West, Adcock, Cantrell, Bailey, Green, > Cloud (especially Talitha Cloud whose granddaughter is on the Rolls), > I have Cloud ancestry through Nancy Cloud >>Alsey (Alsy/Alcy/etc), m. Cochran >> Judith, m.McGhee. Do you have Talitha's application? Leo

I am forwarding these posts from another group for those searching for Native American / Indian ancestry. ****** CHEROKEE-DNA-L@rootsweb.com ****** Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:45:10 -0600 From: LC <lridall@ambt.net> Source: CHEROKEE-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-DNA] topic I had my mtDNA tested and I am Haplogroup X. There are Europeans with this Haplogroup, but I was informed by FTDNA that my test revealed that I am Native American. Is there anyone else on this list who has had this result? Is there anyone who is connected to West, Adcock, Cantrell, Bailey, Green, Cloud (especially Talitha Cloud whose granddaughter is on the Rolls), Ingram, Chatfield, or Short? Is anyone else connected to William Holland Thomas, the Cherokee leader who married a full-blood? I would be happy to compare notes. Thanks. Lynda ************************* Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:05:30 -0600 From: Sherry Huff <sheree606@alltel.net> Source: CHEROKEE-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CHEROKEE-DNA] topic Lynda, Where are you "from"? I have some Bailey's, Green's, Turner, Turner-Thomas, and Thomas. Unfortunately, DNA testing doesn't work like they advertise. The absence of a Native American haplogroup in your DNA results does not mean that you are not Native American nor does the presence of one of those haplogroups mean that you are Native American. The Indigenous Peoples Council on BioColonialism explains how/why this is true. http://www.ipcb.org/publications/briefing_papers/files/identity.html Sherry ************************* Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:26:18 -0600 From: Sherry Huff <sheree606@alltel.net> Source: CHEROKEE-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CHEROKEE-DNA] topic Just about every surname you can imagine can be found among all tribes at one point or another and "everyone" assumes that if they are in any part Native American that they must be Cherokee. This is simply not true. It is also not true to assume that because all of your people are listed as being "white" that they were white or that because they were listed as Mullato or Black that they are either of those. Don't make the mistake of assuming that your families must be Shawnee or Sioux simply because they resided in an area "known" to be territories of that tribe unless you have proof. Be careful with similar names or same names. I guess my point is simply that things are not always what they seem and I have seen a lot of people making the mistake of assuming that our ancestors were somehow "ignorant". In fact, I have found two copies of a census and each saying something different. Probably "redone" to hide something but what? I have seen some claim a particular individual that had a common name simply because "that was the only one they could find" or "it fit". Sherry ************************* Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:29:14 -0600 From: Sherry Huff <sheree606@alltel.net> Source: CHEROKEE-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CHEROKEE-DNA] topic This is where DNA testing comes in handy. To prove/disprove a relationship. Not to determine ethnicity. I had to speak my mind on this subject folks. Thank you for tolerating that. Sherry ************************* Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:36:19 -0600 From: LC <lridall@ambt.net> Source: CHEROKEE-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHEROKEE-DNA] topic I'm from White County, Tennessee, which borders on Dekalb, Putnam, and Warren Counties. My relatives are scattered through these counties. My Greens and Thomas's were in Putnam and DeKalb. We lived in White. I'm an exact match with someone who is descended from William Holland Thomas. Those Thomas's were in East Tennessee. Lynda

Finally! Dad finally did the kit! Just mailed it in about an hour ago! Maybe he can be the link to your Jeremiah! Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" <DigMyPast@msn.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] DNA project > Just ordered the kit to test Dad. "Thank you for ordering the Y-DNA25 > test. > Your sample kit number is 43861. " Dad's lineage is: > Direct Descendants of Noah David Cloud > 1 Noah David Cloud b: Abt. 1752 in VA d: 15 August 1838 in Edgefield Co, > SC > .. +Eunola Unity Carroll b: Abt. 1755 m: 26 April 1788 d: 04 December 1844 > in Edgefield Co, SC > ..... 2 John B. Cloud b: 13 February 1789 in Elbert Co, GA d: 17 June 1856 > in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL > ......... +Margaret Ann Swearingen b: 29 January 1790 in Pine House, > Trenton, Edgefield Co, SC m: Abt. 1808 in Edgefield Dist, SC d: 18 > November > 1868 in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL > ............. 3 Jeremiah T. Cloud b: Abt. 1812 in Edgefield Co, SC d: > March > 1880 in Macon Co, AL > ................. +Susan Capers Glenn b: 02 January 1822 in Sumpter Co, SC > m: 22 August 1845 in Russell Co, AL d: 05 April 1871 in LaPlace, Macon Co, > AL > .................... 4 Sampson Carroll Cloud b: 15 January 1848 in > LaPlace, > Macon Co, AL d: 02 July 1904 in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL > ........................ +Elizabeth Florence Hamilton b: 01 September 1853 > in Tuskegee, Macon Co, AL m: Abt. 1882 d: 06 April 1928 in Cairo, GA > ............................ 5 Archibald Hamilton Cloud b: 01 August 1883 > in > La Place, Macon Co, AL d: 25 February 1940 in Dadeville, Tallapoosa Co, AL > ................................ +Ida Louise Warren b: 29 January 1887 in > Lochapoka, Lee Co, AL m: 14 November 1915 in Auburn, Lee Co, AL d: 22 > November 1935 in Montgomery, Montgomery Co, AL > .................................... 6 Hamilton Warren Cloud b: 1919 in > Loachapoka, Lee Co, AL > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ > >

I don't know any dates -- probably early 1800's. Don't know place either right now. Emma Caroline Cloud married Joseph Dalton who are they?

Looking for information on ... Margaret F. Cloud, b. ca 1910 in Pennsylvania, according to 1920 census enumerated Jan. 1920. Her father was born in New York according to 1920 census. Her mother's parents were James Pierce (1837 PA - ) and Edna Hulmes (1841 Eng - ). They are on 1870-1920 census, except 1890, in the same place -- 35 Graham Street, Chester, Delaware, PA. In 1920 (below) Margaret is living with her grandmother (her grandfather was alive in 1910). I can't find her on 1910 census or her family. A clue is that her grandmother was born England (her mother's mother would be shown b. ENG on 1910 census). 1920 census, PA, Delaware, Chester city, e.d. 125, 2-B, (T625-1561, p. 135) Jan 2, 1920, 35 Graham Street, HH 29/35 Pierce, Edna, head, own, F, W, 79, wid, 1841, m. 1821, ENG, ENG, ENG Cloud, Margaret F/T, grandchild, F, W, 10, PA, NY, PA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/921.1 Message Board Post: Wayne, You can see all the people aassociated with any particular location at - - http://mykindred.com/ Keep in mind that the place might be listed in different ways. In this case, Knoxville is listed with and without the county. I find only one Cloud under Knoxville, TN and one other under Knoxville, Knox cty, TN 1 - Margaret Woods Cloud (36700) 2 - Chalmers Anderson Cloud (71305) you can click on the little magnifying glass next to any place name and you will get a list of all people with an event for that place. The search URL for Knox county is http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/placesearch.php?psearch=Knox+county%2C+Tennessee but it only returns Margaret Woods Cloud (above).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud, Burchell, Tallent Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/921 Message Board Post: Looking for any and all info about Cloud's from Knoxville, TN and surrounding communities.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/734.2.2 Message Board Post: I may have this person in my data. see www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/728.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Dont know if you have looked in my data. www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud

Could you give us a State, County, dates? Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: <susnerne@socket.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/19/2006 12:37:17 AM > Subject: [CLOUD] Re: CLOUD/RED CLOUD, John/Lawrence b. Smokey Mountain NC? > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/742.1.3 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi - I;m new to this - Cloud was my gmother;s maiden name and her nickname was :Lula:Her father name was James B Cloud and her gfather name was George Cloud Sr. Do you have any more info. ?Thank you Susan > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/734.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Susan, Who did your James marry? I have two...just wondering which one is yours? Diane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/728.1.4 Message Board Post: Good evening - Nathanel Cloud (I have 2) one born in Ky and the other one born Ohio- any info on Clouds would be greatly appericated. Thanks Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/728.1.3 Message Board Post: Good evening - Nathanel Cloud (I have 2) one born in Ky and the other one born Ohio- any info on Clouds would be greatly appericated. Thanks Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/728.1.2 Message Board Post: Good evening - Nathanel Cloud (I have 2) one born in Ky and the other one born Ohio- any info on Clouds would be greatly appericated. Thanks Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/734.2 Message Board Post: Good evening- my James Cloud comes from Tipton , Ind- born 1857- died 1936- do you know who his gfather is. Thank you Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/742.1.3 Message Board Post: Hi - I;m new to this - Cloud was my gmother;s maiden name and her nickname was :Lula:Her father name was James B Cloud and her gfather name was George Cloud Sr. Do you have any more info. ?Thank you Susan

I wish, oh how I wish, we could find one male in all these United States with the surname Cloud who could prove with a y-dna test that he is of Native American origin or even has Native American markers on his dna. This suspense is killing me. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: MARION CLOUD <marion_cloud@msn.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/18/2006 8:02:14 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Re: MO Clouds and the Native American story? > > The Dawes Rolls show a large number of Indians with the Cloud last name. I have seen Cherokee, Choctaw and Creek tribes represented in various documents with Clouds named, most of them lived in OK at the time. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jannyintn@hotmail.com<mailto:jannyintn@hotmail.com> > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:30 PM > Subject: [CLOUD] Re: MO Clouds and the Native American story? > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/920.1.1<http://boards.anc estry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/920.1.1> > > Message Board Post: > > I am keeping an open mind about this, it seems to be a thread that runs through many of the Cloud lines. I guess only well documented research will eventually tell the truth. Happy hunting! Janet > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/> ... http://mykindredcom/cloud/<http://mykindred.com/cloud/> > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

The Dawes Rolls show a large number of Indians with the Cloud last name. I have seen Cherokee, Choctaw and Creek tribes represented in various documents with Clouds named, most of them lived in OK at the time. ----- Original Message ----- From: jannyintn@hotmail.com<mailto:jannyintn@hotmail.com> To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: MO Clouds and the Native American story? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/920.1.1<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/920.1.1> Message Board Post: I am keeping an open mind about this, it seems to be a thread that runs through many of the Cloud lines. I guess only well documented research will eventually tell the truth. Happy hunting! Janet ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/> ... http://mykindredcom/cloud/<http://mykindred.com/cloud/>