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    1. Cloud - Ferree
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ferree, Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/930 Message Board Post: Maria Ferree b. 1784 in Dauphin County, PA married Jesse Cloud about 1805. Had children - Mary, Charles, Elizabeth, Amanda, Alfred, Robert, Isaac, Catherine, Maria, Rebecca, and Rachel. The Ferree family is having a reunion in Lancaster, Pennsylvania in July 2007 and would like to have our Cloud cousins come. Details at our website www.ferreereunion.com

    07/17/2006 04:57:08
    1. Re: King, Cloud and Duley - Reply
    2. Hi Pat: I don't recall any of my ancestors using DULEY names related to either my KING or CLOUD family lines. However, let me suggest that you check the LDS Internet database operated by the LDS Genealogical Library in Salt Lake City, UT. They will most likely have Duley names in their database. All of my known KING and CLOUD ancestors and their known spouses are listed on LDS Family History site. I think the LDS Internet site name is FamilySearch.Org, but I am not certain. Go to Google for their current Internet address. Sorry I can't be of help to you with your genealogical question. Tom, Sr. --------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 7/16/2006 5:43:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pashort@neok.com writes: Do you have any King Duley Cloud in your family. I have some in MO. Thanks Pat Short

    07/16/2006 12:07:56
    1. Re: Ancestor's? DNA Question? - Reply.
    2. In a message dated 7/16/2006 3:52:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, catalogs0bl@isp.com writes: Bobbie (Richardson) Spiegel on the Coastal Bend of TX Hi Bobbie: Thanks for your response to my posting about my KING and CLOUD family lines in TN and in AL. Yes, I have submitted my DNA to the outfit in Houston that processes and posts DNA data. So far, there have been no matches against other posted KING lines. But, from time to time, I check to see if my status has changed. I do hope that I will have a DNA match some day. I just hope it happens soon, since at 86, my available days for waiting are going by all too fast! Best wishes. Tom, Sr. from No. VA.

    07/16/2006 11:52:24
    1. Re: [CLOUD]
    2. My great great grandfather was George Washington Cloud and my great grandfather was William Harden Crawford Cloud. My Grandmother was Cora Bell Cloud who married Thomas K. Poston. JB Warner

    07/16/2006 12:59:48
    1. Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud, Ayers, Fugate, Middleton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: There were two individuals named William Cloud born about the same time and both can be found living at the same time, one in Lee County, VA and the other in Harlan County, Kentucky. Both were sons of a Benjamin Franklin Cloud but different Benjamin Franklin Clouds again these two were living at the same time. First, you have William M. [believed to stand for Middleton] Cloud born 20 Feb 1862 in Harlan County, Kentucky, married to Mary Jane Shoemaker. This William Cloud was the son of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 in Tennessee married to Nancy Middleton died 22 Mar 1946. The had a son named Henry F. Cloud b. 30 April 1893 b. Kentucky married to Sybil Sweester. William and Mary Jane had other children: Greenberry; Eunice; Louisa; Laura; Sarah; Sarepta; Alice; Jessie; Simon; John and Bessie, all born in KY. The second was William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 in Rose Hill, Lee County, Virgina married to Sarah Ellen Fugate and died 28 Jul 1929 and is buried in Leftwich-Edds Cemetery in Rose Hill, Lee County, VA. This William Steven Cloud b. 1865 was the son of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 in Lee County, VA and Margaret Jane Ayers. William Steven Cloud and Margaret Jane Ayers had the following children: Eula Virginia; Robert Lester, Lizzie Jane; George ("Jim"); Dorsey Lee; Nola ("Dollie") and Glessie May ("Babe"). One family lived in Rose Hill, Lee County, Virginia and the other in Harlan County, Kentucky. They were distant cousins all descendents of Captain William Cloud.

    07/15/2006 05:31:48
    1. Used genealogical book on the KING and Cloud Family Lines in TN/AL/NC-SC.
    2. Hi Folks: The genealogy book listed below has been out of print for more than 10 years. However, I accidentally found a slightly used copy that is for sale, while doing a search on Google. The Internet address for the company selling the book is: (_http://www.alibris.com/_ (http://www.alibris.com/) ) See descriptive data below. Alibris is located in TX. They state on their Internet posting that they have about 14 used genealogy titles in stock, plus over 3,000 other books. I know nothing about the vender; but I have had a number of requests for the book that I could not fill, and I don't plan to reprint the book. So, that is why I am sending this message to possible interested parties that may wish to purchase this out of print book. The book is hard covered and is 9-3/4" x 11" with about 460 pages; it also has a name index. There is a lot of genealogical data on my KING and CLOUD family lines and many family lines that they intermarried with. My Gr-Gr-grandfathers and their families settled in Madison Co. AL and in adjacent Lincoln Co. TN during the early 1800's. Hundreds of their descendents are listed in the book. The book also contains a lot of auto-biographical information on myself, as well as historical details on my ancestors. It covers my service in the army during both WW 2 and the Korean war; plus work in the private sector in the computer field for 25 years; in both the USA and in many developing countries as a computer management consultant for the United Nations. Tom King, Sr. in VA. ------------------------------------------ From Wagons to Spaceships: Personal and Family History of Thomas Jackson King and His Ancestors, by King, Thomas Jackson* Binding: Hard Cover, Publisher: Private, San Diego, CA, U.S.A. Date Published: 1993, Description: Fine/LIKE NEW. No Jacket. Size 9¾"-12" tall. Signed by Author. Book is clean and tight. Author's signature and inscription on half-title. Price $42.45, 3 days ship.

    07/15/2006 03:30:08
    1. Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3.1 Message Board Post: William Steven Cloud was my great grandfather, my grandfather was Henry Franklin Cloud.

    07/15/2006 08:45:32
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Harry: "In 1816 he left his farm (in Mulberry valley) and moved to Tazewell. He lived on the corner just opposite the entrance of the Baptist church until 1826 when he moved to Chadwell Station." From article "Old Time Tazewell" by Alexander Moore Cloud. Quoted in Early Settlers of Lee County, Virginia and Adjacent Counties Volume II, compiled by Hattie Byrd Muncy Bales page 910 "Mary (Chadwell) Middleton married, 2nd. Benjamin Cloud of Claiborne County, Tenn., Dec. 29, 1801, who died in Lee County in 1845. After their marriage they settled at Chadwell Station Powell Valley, where they both died. Benjamin Cloud's will, dated 28th January 1845; codicil, dated 1st February 1845, was proved July 21, 1845. By the terms of the will, Mary (Polly) was to receive ample provisions for her natural life. (See Will.) Mary Cloud died in 1856.." Early Settlers of Lee County Virginia and Adjacent Counties Volume II page 910. Benjamin Cloud purchased land in Lee County, Virginia as is shown in the record in the Lee County Court House: #2 Surveyors Record 1820-1833 Lee County, Virginia: " February the 19th 1828 I have surveyed for Benjamin Cloud one hundred acres of land in Lee County, on Indian Creek, by Virtue of the Virginia Land Office Treasury Warrent No. 9961 dated the 15th day of December 1827, Beginning at two white oaks and chestnut tree on a line of David Chadwell's Survey of 500 acres and with a line thereof N77E165 poles to two sourwoods & two gums on the side of a hill South 146 poles to a forked poplar. n74W166 poles to a black oak and white oak on the side of a hill North 60 poles to the beginning. (signed) John Crabtree S.S.C. " Above the description was a triangular plat with "south 146" on one side," N77E165" on another side, and " N74W166" on the other. The triangle was pointed down with a flat portion on the bottom which said "North 60". Benjamin Cloud left the following Will: (Recorded in WBK 2, Page 49) "Lee County, Virginia. In the name of God Amen. I Benjamin Cloud being of sound mind and disposing memory but weak in body and knowing the great uncertainly of life do make and ordain this my last will and Testament To Wit: I recommend my soal to the God that gave it and that I be buried in a decent christian like manner and that all my Just debts be paid; and that all my debts be collected. 1st. I bequeath unto my wife Mary Cloud the tract of land north of the main Virginia Road it being the tract I now live on for use and benefit with all the appurtenances during her natural life. I also give and bequeath to my said wife Mary Cloud my two negro boys Adam & Moses & my two negro Girls Sally & Catherine for her use and benefit during her natural life -- I also give to my said wife Mary my Brown Mar & her two year old filly & my four waggon horses & gearing five milch cows two stears fifteen head of sheep twenty five head of hogs all of my household and kitchen furniture farming utensils of every kind all my corn & fodder. 2nd. I bequeath unto my son Benjamin Franklin Cloud the tract of land on the north side of the main Virginia road whereon I now live, after my wife's decease as an indefesable (indefeasible) inheritance forever. He paying to my two grandsons William Alexander Shackleford, Benjamim Franklin Shakelford the sum of two hundred and fifty dollars each making the sum of five hundred dollars as the part coming to their mother to be paid to them as they become of lawful age without interest- 3rd. I bequeath unto my two Daughters Bartheny Smith & Soueseana Shultz the tract of land I purchased of William Chadwell lying on the south side of the main Virginia Road known as the tract I purchased of the said Wm. Chadwell as an indefsible inheritance forever. 4th. I will and bequeath to my said children all my negroes, to be Equally divided among them at my death, accept those that I will to my said wife Mary Cloud and at her death then they are to be equally divided among my said heirs first making them all equal in negroes then said division to take place - 5th. I will and bequeath to my said children all my personal estate not willed to my said wife to be equally divided among them without sale consisting Horses cattle hogs & sheep & c &c. 6th. It is my will and desire that my two negroes Amsted & his wife Liza shall not be divided among my said children and under their protection if said Amsted & Liza can make their living they are to live to themselves upon some land procured by said children for them- Lastly, I do hereby constitute and appoint as my executors to execute this my last will and Testament my son Benjamin Franklin Cloud and my son in law Jacob Shultz to carry the same into effect after my decease in all its various parts In testimony whereof I have here unto set my hand & Seal this 28th day of January 1845. Benjamin Cloud (Seal) Signed sealed published and declared in presents of George W. Cloud Hiram X Smith A codicil to my last will and Testament to wit: It is my will and bequeath that my grandsons Wm. A. Shackleford & Benjamin F. Shackleford have one fourth of all my negroes mentioned in my will accept Amsted & Liza which is not be devided & that my said slaves be divided & have no sale of them first making my children Equal in advancements made to them. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal 1st day of February 1845. Benjamin Cloud (Seal) Signed in the presence of David Chadwell George W. Cloud Virginia "At a Court begun and held for Lee County at the Court House thereof on Monday the 21st day of July 1845. "The last will and Testament of Benjamin Cloud was proved by the oaths of George W. Cloud, Hiram Smith and David Chadwell Jr. witnesses thereto and is ordered to be recorded. And on motion of Benjamin F. Cloud one of the Executors therein named who made oath thereto and together with Benjamin Dickenson his security entered into the acknowledged their bond in the penalty of $2000 conditioned as the law directs Certificate is granted him for obtaining probat of the said will in due form. From the above it is clear that this is Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 married to Mary Polly Chadwell. Note the persons listed in his will. There are of course lots of questions regarding Benjamin and Susanna Bondurant. Note that Sussana listed at age 60 in the 1850 Census of Claiborne County, TN with children that must have been born when she was age 30 plus: See the 1850 Census of Claiborne County, TN Family No.23 as follows: "Susan age 60, f, b. TN; Leander age 27, m, b. TN; Greenville age 26, m, b. TN; Nancy age 20, b. TN; Louiza age 15, f, b. TN." All were born after the known children born to Benjamin and Mary Polly. Benjamin born b. 1777 died in 1845 and is not listed in the TN 1850 census. The first child listed would have been born about 1823 about three years before it is said he purchased land in Lee County, VA and moved there. While I have read the information about Sussana Bonderant. If you have more information, I would like to see it. At any rate, if Benjamin was married to Sussana it seems to me that she must have been a second spouse. Ron Wilson

    07/14/2006 04:08:45
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Harry, Benjamin F. Cloud b. 1777 (son of Capt. William Cloud) first married Mary (Polly) Chadwell. Mary (Polly) was a widow of about one year when they married. See "Early Settlers of Lee County, VA" Benjamin lived in Lee County, VA. prior to living in Claiborne County, TN. I made copies of the property plat they owned in Lee Co., VA. It is one of the earliest plats in the Jonesville, Lee County, court house. I believe you will find that Benjamin Cloud also sat on the commission that hired Daniel Boone and associates to cut the road through the Cumberland Gap. Mary Chadwell's father David Chadwell owned most of that area when Rose Hill, Lee County, VA was called "Martin's Station". Later, David Chadwell moved to Clairborne County,TN and lived there in his later years but some of his children remained in the Rose Hill area inheriting some of his land. After the death of Mary "Polly" Chadwell, it seems that Benjamin F. Cloud b. 1777 also moved to Claiborne, TN. His son Benjamin Cloud b. 1802 was the county clerk there in Claiborne. When you study the records in Claiborne Co. it seems that Benjamin Cloud b. 1777 remarried to Sussana Bondurant and had several more children. Benjamin Cloud's [b. 1777] brother George W. Cloud b. 1810 married the daughter of David Chadwell Jr. the brother of Mary Polly Chadwell i.e. Elizabeth Chadwell and stayed in the Rose Hill or Martin's Station area. They probably lived on land that was inherited from David Chadwell Sr. who was a Captain in the Revolutionary War and it is said owned some 27,000 acres in that area. I base the above on excerpts of the book "Early Settlers of Lee County, VA" and the rightings of David Chadwell's youngest son born very late in life named Jackson Chadwell. That in itself is very interesting reading. David Chadwell Sr. lived to age 100 but late in life lived with a much younger woman and had a son by her named Jackson Chadwell. The older children by his first marriage were upset by this action and he decided to give them all land before his death and after that ignored their feelings about his young mistress. Note long before David Chadwell Sr. died he made his own casket. Jackson tells how he would lay in the newly made casket and read the Bible. ? :) He was known to have lots of money and after he died people would come to where he lived and dig around hoping to find where he put the money. However, there doesn't seem to be any record of anyone finding any buried treasure. A study of the Cloud family in Lee County, VA shows that most are descendents of David Chadwell Sr. more than one way. Like other early rural families the married cousins. By the way there was another Benjamin F. Cloud, a doctor, that lived in Claiborne County, TN but was born later and was a nephew. The was also another much younger Greenbury Cloud who was a sheriff in Claiborne County, VA. When I was last in Claiborne County, TN there were still members of the Cloud family living west of town. Benjamin and Greenbury were very popular names in the Cloud family. As I see it the only way to get a handle on who is who is to do as I did. Put together a spread sheet and trace the branches down by birth dates and other information including the census dates from 1850 onward. Ron Wilson

    07/14/2006 03:25:08
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Harry Hogan
    3. One question: if Benj. F. Cloud b. 1777 (son of Capt. William) was married to Mary (Chadwell) Middleton, who was the Benj. F. Cloud married to Susanna Bondurant? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: <mrjga@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:47 AM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Cloud, Ayers, Middleton, Chadwell > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3 > > Message Board Post: > > My wife Margaret Alice Young is the daughter of Eula Cloud b. 18 Sep 1908 > Rose Hill, Virginia the daughter of William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 > Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA d. 28 Jul 1929 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA. and Sarah > Ellen Fugate b. 10 Mar 1884 Lee Co. VA. > > William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee County, VA was the son > of Benjamin Franklin "Frank" Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA and > Margaret Jane Ayers b. Jan 1843 Lee Co. VA. > > Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to > Margaret Jane Ayers] is the son of George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick > County, VA and Elizabeth Chadwell b. 1804 Rose Hill, VA [daughter of David > Chadwell Jr. and Nancy Lane. > > George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA was the son of Benjamin > Franklin Cloud b. 1777 TN and Mary (Polly) Chadwell b. 30 Aug 1777 > Pittsylvania [now Henry] County, VA. [Mary (Polly) Chadwell was the > daughter of David Chadwell Sr. and Elizabeth Morgan. She was first > married to Walter Middleton] > > Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to > Margaret Jane Ayers] should not be confused with Benjamin Franklin Cloud > b. 1826 Claiborne County, TN d. Dizney, Harland Co. KY. married to Nancy > Middleton b. Sept 1827 daughter of Walter Middleton II and Sarah (Sally) > Turner. > > Both of the above can be found in the census at the same time, the first > Benjamin Franlin in Rose Hill, VA and the other Benjamin Franklin lived > for a short time in Rocky Station, Lee Co. VA. The dates of birth is the > first clue plus the pension file of Benjamin b. 1826 filed by Nancy. > > A careful review of the Rose Hill, Lee County, Virgina for each 10 year > period will demonstrate that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 is the > son of George W. Cloud b. 1810. > > Further, from the census Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 seems to be the > son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 Henry Co. VA and Barthena Cox b. 1800 VA. > Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 was the brother of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 > mentioned above and both were sons of Captain William Cloud b. 17 Dec 1750 > NC and Elizabeth Morgan second wife of William. > > Complicating the matter further is the fact that Benjamin Franklin Cloud > b. 1777 had a son by the same name i.e. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1802 > married to Elizabeth Mahulda Shultz. > > I believe a close study of the various related persons named Benjamin > Franklin Cloud in the census data for each year will convince you that > Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 married to Nancy Middleton is the son of > Greenbury Cloud b. 1795 and Barthena Cox simply because all others are > accounted for and the family of Greenbury fits the data in the 1840 Census > and the others do not. > > Margaret and I spent quite a lot of time in the Court House in Jonesboro, > Lee County, VA; Harlan County, KY court house; and the court house in > Clayborne TN. We made copies of the documents including the marriage > licens of Benjamin Franklin Cloud and Nancy Middleton. Further, we have > old family pictures of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834; Margaret > Ayers; and their son William Steven Cloud, my wife Margaret's grandfather. > We visited the Leftwich-Edds Cemetary where her grandfather and her baby > brothers are buried and discussed this with living relatives. We also > spent time in the local libraries is each area and made copies of the land > records in these areas. Margaret and her brother and sisters were born > there in Rose Hill and they have various living family members still > living there. My first visit there with Margaret was about 1961 when > several of the older people were still living. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

    07/14/2006 09:52:50
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Jeanette
    3. mrjga@aol.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Cloud, Ayers, Middleton, Chadwell >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3 > >Message Board Post: > >My wife Margaret Alice Young is the daughter of Eula Cloud b. 18 Sep 1908 Rose Hill, Virginia the daughter of William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA d. 28 Jul 1929 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA. and Sarah Ellen Fugate b. 10 Mar 1884 Lee Co. VA. > >William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin "Frank" Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA and Margaret Jane Ayers b. Jan 1843 Lee Co. VA. > >Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] is the son of George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA and Elizabeth Chadwell b. 1804 Rose Hill, VA [daughter of David Chadwell Jr. and Nancy Lane. > >George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 TN and Mary (Polly) Chadwell b. 30 Aug 1777 Pittsylvania [now Henry] County, VA. [Mary (Polly) Chadwell was the daughter of David Chadwell Sr. and Elizabeth Morgan. She was first married to Walter Middleton] > >Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] should not be confused with Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 Claiborne County, TN d. Dizney, Harland Co. KY. married to Nancy Middleton b. Sept 1827 daughter of Walter Middleton II and Sarah (Sally) Turner. > >Both of the above can be found in the census at the same time, the first Benjamin Franlin in Rose Hill, VA and the other Benjamin Franklin lived for a short time in Rocky Station, Lee Co. VA. The dates of birth is the first clue plus the pension file of Benjamin b. 1826 filed by Nancy. > >A careful review of the Rose Hill, Lee County, Virgina for each 10 year period will demonstrate that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 is the son of George W. Cloud b. 1810. > >Further, from the census Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 seems to be the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 Henry Co. VA and Barthena Cox b. 1800 VA. Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 was the brother of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 mentioned above and both were sons of Captain William Cloud b. 17 Dec 1750 NC and Elizabeth Morgan second wife of William. > >Complicating the matter further is the fact that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 had a son by the same name i.e. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1802 married to Elizabeth Mahulda Shultz. > >I believe a close study of the various related persons named Benjamin Franklin Cloud in the census data for each year will convince you that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 married to Nancy Middleton is the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1795 and Barthena Cox simply because all others are accounted for and the family of Greenbury fits the data in the 1840 Census and the others do not. > >Margaret and I spent quite a lot of time in the Court House in Jonesboro, Lee County, VA; Harlan County, KY court house; and the court house in Clayborne TN. We made copies of the documents including the marriage licens of Benjamin Franklin Cloud and Nancy Middleton. Further, we have old family pictures of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834; Margaret Ayers; and their son William Steven Cloud, my wife Margaret's grandfather. We visited the Leftwich-Edds Cemetary where her grandfather and her baby brothers are buried and discussed this with living relatives. We also spent time in the local libraries is each area and made copies of the land records in these areas. Margaret and her brother and sisters were born there in Rose Hill and they have various living family members still living there. My first visit there with Margaret was about 1961 when several of the older people were still living. > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > Thank you for the information. My grandfather Benjamin Franklin Cloud was married twice. I don't know his first wife. He married a Martha Shoemaker from Virginia. I think he had 8 children by Martha. My mother being the youngest. Her name was Octavia born April 11th 1917 and died February 25th 2000. She had, I think 2 brothers, Tilman and Harrison, and 6 sisters. I only knew Matilda, Ida, and Doxie. The other two were Alberta, and I think, Mae. I think they were all born in Dizney Ky. Again, thank you for the information. Jeanette Emmett Lewis

    07/14/2006 07:10:25
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Jeanette
    3. rhonda_1961@yahoo.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Shoemaker >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.2.1.1 > >Message Board Post: > >This is all I have at the moment for three generations: > >Descendants of William Henry Shoemaker > > 1 William Henry Shoemaker b: 10 Jul 1842 in , Alleghany, VA d: 24 Mar 1912 in Baxter, Harlan Co, KY >. +Elizabeth Redman b: 20 Apr 1847 in , Scott, VA m: 10 Dec 1866 in Gate City, Scott, VA d: 03 Jan 1935 in Baxter, Harlan Co, KY > 2 Nancy Elizabeth Shoemaker b: 17 Oct 1867 in , Scott, VA d: 21 Aug 1898 in , Harlan, KY >... +James Morgan Wynn b: 25 Dec 1865 m: 1882 d: Aug 1900 >. 3 Mary Jane Wynn b: Nov 1883 d: 12 Jun 1963 >..... +Frank Cloud >. 3 James Wynn b: May 1885 d: 1961 >..... +Annie Engle b: 1885 >. *2nd Wife of James Wynn: >..... +Cecile Hall b: 1890 m: 08 Oct 1913 in , Somerset, MD d: 1926 >. 3 Benjamin Wynn b: 02 Mar 1887 >. 3 Joanna Wynn b: 1889 >. 3 Elizabeth Wynn b: 07 Jun 1889 d: 07 Jul 1956 >..... +Jess Pressley >. 3 William Henry Wynn b: Mar 1893 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 04 Mar 1964 in Big Stone Gap, Wise, VA >..... +Ollie Carter b: 23 Sep 1895 m: 1912 d: 10 Oct 1985 in Snellville, , GA >. 3 Acles Wynn b: Mar 1893 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 04 Mar 1979 >..... +Delia J. Thomas > 2 William Jackson Shoemaker b: 11 Jan 1869 in , Scott, VA d: 15 Jun 1945 in Springfield, Greene, MO >... +Narcissa Clay Middleton b: 27 Jan 1875 m: 01 Oct 1891 in , Harlan, KY d: 16 Aug 1950 in Culver City, Los Angeles, CA >. 3 Joseph Shoemaker b: 10 Mar 1893 d: 20 Dec 1894 >. 3 Luther Benson Shoemaker b: 09 Dec 1895 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 17 Sep 1948 in Springfield, Greene, MO >..... +Lois Violet Strong b: 04 Nov 1901 in Aimer, Loop, NE m: 02 Sep 1920 in Burwell, Garfield, NE d: 13 Apr 1986 in Springfield, Greene, MO >. 3 John Harvey Shoemaker b: 09 Dec 1895 d: 07 Feb 1896 >. 3 Henry Clay Shoemaker b: 02 Apr 1897 d: 08 Sep 1965 >..... +Nellie >. 3 William Ray Shoemaker b: 06 May 1900 d: 15 Jul 1901 >. 3 Arthur Willis Shoemaker b: 18 Feb 1902 d: 16 Nov 1981 >..... +Cora Cecil Reary b: 18 Jul 1904 m: 24 Apr 1925 in Alton, Oregon, MO d: 21 Jun 1996 >. 3 Robert Lee Shoemaker b: 05 Oct 1905 in Blackwater, Lee, VA d: 12 Nov 1989 in Springfield, Greene, MO >..... +Velma Adel Hatfield b: 04 Jun 1911 m: 22 Apr 1933 in Salem, Fulton, AR d: 23 May 2000 >. 3 Claude Dean Shoemaker b: 16 Oct 1908 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 02 Sep 1942 in Guadacanal >..... +Gertrude > 2 Mary Jane Shoemaker b: 01 Oct 1870 d: 11 Nov 1941 >... +William M. Cloud b: 20 Feb 1862 m: 15 Oct 1891 in , Harlan, KY d: 22 Mar 1946 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Henry F. Cloud b: 30 Apr 1893 in , , KY d: 05 Sep 1968 in Pennington Gap, Lee, VA >..... +Sybil Sweester >. 3 Greenberry Cloud b: 04 Feb 1895 in , Harlan, KY d: 22 Nov 1960 in , , MI >..... +Bertha Pressley Middleton b: 31 Oct 1904 d: 30 Oct 1993 in , , MI >. 3 Unis Beatrice Cloud b: 13 Mar 1898 d: 14 Sep 1904 >. 3 Louisa M. Cloud b: 23 Aug 1900 in , , KY d: 08 Jan 1986 >..... +Frank Russell >. 3 Laura Bell Cloud b: 03 Nov 1904 in , , KY >..... +Howard Middleton >. 3 Sarepta Cloud b: 04 Jan 1906 in , , KY d: 25 Jul 1975 >..... +Hobart Short >. 3 Alice Louise Cloud b: 15 Nov 1907 in , , KY d: 1978 >..... +Floyd Webb >. 3 John Evan Cloud b: 23 Jul 1910 in , , KY d: 18 Aug 1979 in , , KY >..... +Virgie Woodward >. 3 Bessie Cloud b: 01 Oct 1912 in , , KY d: 2000 >..... +Willie Madden b: 06 Jan 1917 d: Sep 1981 > 2 John Robert Shoemaker b: 18 Aug 1872 in , Lee, VA d: 24 Aug 1954 in , Harlan, KY >... +Manerva Middleton b: 01 Jan 1879 m: 11 Aug 1899 in , Harlan, KY d: 16 Jan 1963 >. 3 Maybell Shoemaker b: 1890 in , Harlan, KY d: 1890 >. 3 Henry Shoemaker b: 13 Aug 1892 in Jones Creek, Harlan, KY d: Infant in Jones Creek, Harlan, KY >. 3 Elizabeth Shoemaker b: 12 Nov 1892 in , Harlan, KY d: 15 Aug 1979 >. 3 George Shoemaker b: 03 Mar 1896 in , , KY d: Infant in , , KY >. 3 Ruthie Shoemaker b: 03 Mar 1896 in , , KY d: 06 May 1986 in Loyall, Harlan, KY >..... +Jessie James Farley b: 27 Dec 1889 d: Dec 1979 in Loyall, Harlan, KY >. 3 Luther Shoemaker b: 28 Jan 1900 in , Harlan, KY d: 09 Jul 1936 >..... +Nettie Farley >. 3 Ludie Shoemaker b: 09 Oct 1901 in , , KY d: 28 Nov 1968 >..... +Loyd Middleton >. *2nd Husband of Ludie Shoemaker: >..... +Finily Turner b: 25 Mar 1903 d: Feb 1968 >. 3 Rhoda Shoemaker b: 18 Nov 1904 in , , KY d: 02 Sep 1982 >..... +Disney Brewer >. 3 Bill Beckham Shoemaker b: 1906 in , , KY d: Jun 1965 >..... +JoAnn Turner >. *2nd Wife of Bill Beckham Shoemaker: >..... +Hannah Ethel Gilbert b: 1910 d: 20 Aug 2002 >. 3 Sarepta Beatrice Shoemaker b: 26 Jan 1912 in , , KY d: 14 Jul 1992 in Harlan, Harlan, KY >..... +George L. Creech b: 09 Sep 1915 in Alter, , IL >. 3 Amanda Ellen Shoemaker b: 26 Jan 1912 >..... +Isaac John Robert Southerland b: 08 Feb 1913 m: 25 Oct 1935 d: 08 Sep 1977 >. 3 Myrtle Shoemaker b: 24 Nov 1914 in , , KY d: 23 Apr 1957 >..... +Sherman Peck, Sr. b: Sep 1920 m: 05 Feb 1939 in Watts Creek, , KY d: 18 Feb 1988 > 2 James Thomas Shoemaker b: 29 Aug 1874 in , Lee, VA d: 14 Sep 1926 in , Harlan, KY >... +Maebelle Waddle Noe m: 15 Dec 1899 in , Harlan, KY d: Bef. 1915 >. 3 Paul Shoemaker b: 1901 >. 3 Earl Shoemaker b: 1903 >. 3 Osie Shoemaker b: 19 Aug 1903 d: 15 Aug 1927 > *2nd Wife of James Thomas Shoemaker: >... +Mary Noe m: 16 Jan 1915 >. 3 Ray Shoemaker b: 04 Aug 1916 d: 21 Nov 1974 >..... +Bertha M. Reed >. 3 Ina Shoemaker b: 07 Jan 1918 >..... +Tony H. Dietrich >. 3 Henry Shoemaker b: 25 Jun 1920 >..... +Juanita Hayes >. 3 Bennie S. Shoemaker b: 10 Feb 1923 in , Harlan, KY > 2 Martha L. Shoemaker b: 28 Nov 1877 in , Lee, VA d: 01 Apr 1933 in Dizney, Harlan, KY >... +Benjamin Franklin Cloud, Jr. b: 15 Jan 1857 in , Clairborne, TN m: 30 Aug 1897 in , Harlan, KY d: 01 May 1945 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Josephine Cloud b: Jul 1898 d: 1917 in , , KY >. 3 Thomas Tilmon Cloud b: 23 Jan 1901 d: 07 Jan 1972 in Harlan, Harlan, KY >..... +Leona Pressley b: 05 Jul 1902 in , , KY d: 04 Oct 1988 in Harlan, Harlan, KY >. 3 Ida Bell Cloud b: 28 Jan 1903 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 19 Jul 1970 >..... +Steve H. Cherko d: 1941 >. 3 Harrison Cloud b: 14 Nov 1904 d: 08 Jul 1989 >..... +Cora Johnson b: 15 Apr 1893 in Baxter, Harlan, KY m: 1924 d: 28 Sep 1971 >. 3 Matilda Cloud b: 1906 >..... +Shelby Daniels >. 3 Alberta Cloud b: 1908 d: Bef. Jul 1970 >..... +Bascom Daniels b: 07 Nov 1907 d: Mar 1974 >. 3 Doxie Cloud b: 16 Jul 1914 in , Harlan, KY >..... +Archie Harris >. 3 Octavia Cloud b: 11 Apr 1917 in , Harlan, KY >..... +Eulyses Emmett >. 3 Dorothy Cloud b: 21 Mar 1919 in , Harlan, KY > 2 King Hezikiah Shoemaker b: 22 Feb 1879 in Pennington Gap, Lee, VA d: 23 Oct 1958 in Harlan, Harlan, KY >... +Ida Elvira Johnson b: 04 Jun 1881 in Shaun, Harlan, KY m: 24 Jan 1901 in , Harlan, KY d: 21 Aug 1931 in Shaun, Harlan, KY >. 3 Monroe Shoemaker b: 15 Jan 1904 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 16 Jun 1955 in Detroit, Wayne, MI >..... +Bessie Gadd b: 20 Mar 1903 in Disputanta, Rockcastle, KY m: 13 Dec 1923 in Covington, Keaton, KY d: 06 Mar 1969 in Harlan, Harlan, KY >. 3 Thelma Johnson Shoemaker b: 01 Apr 1906 in , Harlan, KY d: 03 Jan 1964 in Montgomery, Montgomery, AL >..... +Verlin Elias Robbins b: 09 Jun 1911 m: 25 Mar 1930 in , Harlan, KY d: Feb 1988 >. 3 Hazel Harriet Shoemaker b: 23 Dec 1907 in , Harlan, KY d: 19 Apr 1974 in Detroit, Wayne, MI >..... +Herbert Houston Rice b: 17 Mar 1905 in Harrogate, Claiborne, TN m: 29 Dec 1925 in Harrogate, Claibourne, TN d: 23 Apr 1986 in Inkster, Wayne, MI >. 3 Victor Benson Shoemaker b: 18 Nov 1909 in , Harlan, KY d: 28 Mar 1977 in Frankfort, Franklin, KY >..... +Ruth Smith >. 3 Ruby Shoemaker b: 22 Feb 1912 in , Harlan, KY d: 09 May 1987 in Knoxville, Knox, TN >..... +Thomas Clifford Summers b: 03 Apr 1908 m: 09 Sep 1933 in Lake City, Anderson, TN d: 15 Nov 1998 >. 3 Gus Shoemaker b: 16 Oct 1915 in , Harlan, KY d: 19 Sep 1977 in Paris, Bourbon, KY >..... +Elizabeth M. Sydney Kelly b: 02 Apr 1914 in Paint Lick, Harlan, KY m: 15 Apr 1936 in , Harlan, KY d: 10 Jun 1959 in Paris, Bourbon, KY >. *2nd Wife of Gus Shoemaker: >..... +Shaw Tinder m: Aft. 1959 >. 3 Lorainne Shoemaker b: 09 Sep 1924 in , Harlan, KY >..... +Luster Otis Cottrell, Sr. b: 04 Mar 1911 in St.Charles, Lee, VA m: 03 Apr 1942 in Middlesboro, Bell, KY d: 06 May 1977 in Cincinnati, Hamilton, OH > *2nd Wife of King Hezikiah Shoemaker: >... +Hazel Maude Mooney b: 30 Aug 1909 in , Bell, KY m: 03 Feb 1932 in Middleboro, Bell, KY d: 02 Mar 1973 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 King Hezikiah Shoemaker, Jr. b: 20 Jan 1933 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Charles Willis Shoemaker b: 07 Jun 1935 in , Harlan, KY d: 05 Jun 1983 in , Hamilton, OH >..... +Minnie H. >. 3 Bufford Wayne Shoemaker b: 06 Sep 1937 in , Harlan, KY d: 12 Apr 1992 in , Hamilton, OH >. 3 Donald Bruce Shoemaker b: 16 Nov 1939 in , Harlan, KY d: 19 Nov 2005 in Harlan, Harlan, KY >..... +Clare Margaret Haynes m: 09 Nov 1964 >. 3 Daniel (N.M.I.) Shoemaker b: 16 Nov 1939 in , Harlan, KY d: 15 Oct 1940 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Basil Clark Shoemaker b: 05 Jun 1943 in , Harlan, KY >..... +Hailey > 2 Henry Benson Shoemaker b: 16 Apr 1881 in , Lee, VA d: 19 May 1954 in Dizney, Harlan, KY >... +Laura C. Waddle m: 19 Aug 1899 in , Harlan, KY d: Bef. 1911 >. 3 Golden Shoemaker >..... +John Lawson >. 3 Willie Shoemaker b: 1931 d: 1931 > *2nd Wife of Henry Benson Shoemaker: >... +Maude Kelly m: 17 Jun 1911 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Hubert B. Shoemaker b: 12 Jun 1912 d: Nov 1984 >..... +Lavina Pace >. 3 Lucy Shoemaker b: 28 Sep 1913 d: 12 Jan 1987 >..... +Dudley Baute >. 3 Nell Shoemaker b: 30 Oct 1919 >..... +Arnold Hays, Sr. >. 3 Lois Shoemaker b: 14 May 1935 >..... +Lloyd Napier > 2 Drusilla R. Shoemaker b: 02 Mar 1883 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 26 Apr 1936 in Dizney, Harlan, KY >... +James T. Middleton b: 1880 m: 11 Aug 1899 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Laura Middleton b: 1900 >. 3 Celia Middleton b: 1902 >. 3 Kirby Middleton b: 1907 >. 3 Lawrence Middleton b: 1906 >. 3 Elizabeth Middleton b: 1910 >. 3 Emily Middleton b: 1914 > 2 Lucy A. Shoemaker b: 08 Jul 1885 in , Harlan, KY d: 02 May 1926 in , Harlan, KY >... +Speed B. Irving b: 1882 in , , KY m: 01 Oct 1913 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Shafter Irving b: 02 Apr 1922 >. 3 Elva Elizabeth Irving b: 12 Apr 1926 d: 23 Oct 1926 > 2 Sarepta A. Shoemaker b: 01 Jan 1888 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 02 Oct 1957 in Kenvir, Harlan, KY >... +James Allen Helton b: 11 Aug 1889 m: 08 Nov 1913 in , Harlan, KY d: Aug 1974 >. 3 Nobe Helton b: 12 Oct 1914 d: 29 Dec 1999 >..... +Jean >. 3 Marie Helton b: 05 Jun 1917 >..... +Blair >. 3 Lige Helton b: 06 Mar 1921 >. 3 Otis Helton b: 24 Jul 1924 d: 11 Jan 1953 in , Harlan, KY >. 3 Drusilla Helton b: 11 Jan 1926 >..... +Riley Causey >. 3 Victoria Helton b: 29 Jul 1930 >..... +Jess Smith > > > >Martha is the sister of my great grandfather, King Hezikiah Shoemaker and I descent from his first wife, Ida Elvira Johnson. Their son, Monroe is my grandfather. > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > > > Thank you so much Rhonda. My mother was Octavia Cloud Emmett. She died February 25th, 2000 in New Albany, Indiana, and my dad, Ulis Emmett, died in August of 1953 in New Albany, Indiana. I remember Matilda, Doxie, and Ida, mother's sisters, and I have met them. I was told that Alberta died before I was born and that was in 1944. I remember mother talking about her. I think you show her dying in 1970? Is this mother's sister or is it another Alberta? Thank you so much for all your hard work and information. I really appreciate it. If you get anymore information, please pass it on. Jeanette

    07/14/2006 06:59:29
    1. Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
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Surnames: Shoemaker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: This is all I have at the moment for three generations: Descendants of William Henry Shoemaker 1 William Henry Shoemaker b: 10 Jul 1842 in , Alleghany, VA d: 24 Mar 1912 in Baxter, Harlan Co, KY . +Elizabeth Redman b: 20 Apr 1847 in , Scott, VA m: 10 Dec 1866 in Gate City, Scott, VA d: 03 Jan 1935 in Baxter, Harlan Co, KY 2 Nancy Elizabeth Shoemaker b: 17 Oct 1867 in , Scott, VA d: 21 Aug 1898 in , Harlan, KY ... +James Morgan Wynn b: 25 Dec 1865 m: 1882 d: Aug 1900 . 3 Mary Jane Wynn b: Nov 1883 d: 12 Jun 1963 ..... +Frank Cloud . 3 James Wynn b: May 1885 d: 1961 ..... +Annie Engle b: 1885 . *2nd Wife of James Wynn: ..... +Cecile Hall b: 1890 m: 08 Oct 1913 in , Somerset, MD d: 1926 . 3 Benjamin Wynn b: 02 Mar 1887 . 3 Joanna Wynn b: 1889 . 3 Elizabeth Wynn b: 07 Jun 1889 d: 07 Jul 1956 ..... +Jess Pressley . 3 William Henry Wynn b: Mar 1893 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 04 Mar 1964 in Big Stone Gap, Wise, VA ..... +Ollie Carter b: 23 Sep 1895 m: 1912 d: 10 Oct 1985 in Snellville, , GA . 3 Acles Wynn b: Mar 1893 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 04 Mar 1979 ..... +Delia J. Thomas 2 William Jackson Shoemaker b: 11 Jan 1869 in , Scott, VA d: 15 Jun 1945 in Springfield, Greene, MO ... +Narcissa Clay Middleton b: 27 Jan 1875 m: 01 Oct 1891 in , Harlan, KY d: 16 Aug 1950 in Culver City, Los Angeles, CA . 3 Joseph Shoemaker b: 10 Mar 1893 d: 20 Dec 1894 . 3 Luther Benson Shoemaker b: 09 Dec 1895 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 17 Sep 1948 in Springfield, Greene, MO ..... +Lois Violet Strong b: 04 Nov 1901 in Aimer, Loop, NE m: 02 Sep 1920 in Burwell, Garfield, NE d: 13 Apr 1986 in Springfield, Greene, MO . 3 John Harvey Shoemaker b: 09 Dec 1895 d: 07 Feb 1896 . 3 Henry Clay Shoemaker b: 02 Apr 1897 d: 08 Sep 1965 ..... +Nellie . 3 William Ray Shoemaker b: 06 May 1900 d: 15 Jul 1901 . 3 Arthur Willis Shoemaker b: 18 Feb 1902 d: 16 Nov 1981 ..... +Cora Cecil Reary b: 18 Jul 1904 m: 24 Apr 1925 in Alton, Oregon, MO d: 21 Jun 1996 . 3 Robert Lee Shoemaker b: 05 Oct 1905 in Blackwater, Lee, VA d: 12 Nov 1989 in Springfield, Greene, MO ..... +Velma Adel Hatfield b: 04 Jun 1911 m: 22 Apr 1933 in Salem, Fulton, AR d: 23 May 2000 . 3 Claude Dean Shoemaker b: 16 Oct 1908 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 02 Sep 1942 in Guadacanal ..... +Gertrude 2 Mary Jane Shoemaker b: 01 Oct 1870 d: 11 Nov 1941 ... +William M. Cloud b: 20 Feb 1862 m: 15 Oct 1891 in , Harlan, KY d: 22 Mar 1946 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Henry F. Cloud b: 30 Apr 1893 in , , KY d: 05 Sep 1968 in Pennington Gap, Lee, VA ..... +Sybil Sweester . 3 Greenberry Cloud b: 04 Feb 1895 in , Harlan, KY d: 22 Nov 1960 in , , MI ..... +Bertha Pressley Middleton b: 31 Oct 1904 d: 30 Oct 1993 in , , MI . 3 Unis Beatrice Cloud b: 13 Mar 1898 d: 14 Sep 1904 . 3 Louisa M. Cloud b: 23 Aug 1900 in , , KY d: 08 Jan 1986 ..... +Frank Russell . 3 Laura Bell Cloud b: 03 Nov 1904 in , , KY ..... +Howard Middleton . 3 Sarepta Cloud b: 04 Jan 1906 in , , KY d: 25 Jul 1975 ..... +Hobart Short . 3 Alice Louise Cloud b: 15 Nov 1907 in , , KY d: 1978 ..... +Floyd Webb . 3 John Evan Cloud b: 23 Jul 1910 in , , KY d: 18 Aug 1979 in , , KY ..... +Virgie Woodward . 3 Bessie Cloud b: 01 Oct 1912 in , , KY d: 2000 ..... +Willie Madden b: 06 Jan 1917 d: Sep 1981 2 John Robert Shoemaker b: 18 Aug 1872 in , Lee, VA d: 24 Aug 1954 in , Harlan, KY ... +Manerva Middleton b: 01 Jan 1879 m: 11 Aug 1899 in , Harlan, KY d: 16 Jan 1963 . 3 Maybell Shoemaker b: 1890 in , Harlan, KY d: 1890 . 3 Henry Shoemaker b: 13 Aug 1892 in Jones Creek, Harlan, KY d: Infant in Jones Creek, Harlan, KY . 3 Elizabeth Shoemaker b: 12 Nov 1892 in , Harlan, KY d: 15 Aug 1979 . 3 George Shoemaker b: 03 Mar 1896 in , , KY d: Infant in , , KY . 3 Ruthie Shoemaker b: 03 Mar 1896 in , , KY d: 06 May 1986 in Loyall, Harlan, KY ..... +Jessie James Farley b: 27 Dec 1889 d: Dec 1979 in Loyall, Harlan, KY . 3 Luther Shoemaker b: 28 Jan 1900 in , Harlan, KY d: 09 Jul 1936 ..... +Nettie Farley . 3 Ludie Shoemaker b: 09 Oct 1901 in , , KY d: 28 Nov 1968 ..... +Loyd Middleton . *2nd Husband of Ludie Shoemaker: ..... +Finily Turner b: 25 Mar 1903 d: Feb 1968 . 3 Rhoda Shoemaker b: 18 Nov 1904 in , , KY d: 02 Sep 1982 ..... +Disney Brewer . 3 Bill Beckham Shoemaker b: 1906 in , , KY d: Jun 1965 ..... +JoAnn Turner . *2nd Wife of Bill Beckham Shoemaker: ..... +Hannah Ethel Gilbert b: 1910 d: 20 Aug 2002 . 3 Sarepta Beatrice Shoemaker b: 26 Jan 1912 in , , KY d: 14 Jul 1992 in Harlan, Harlan, KY ..... +George L. Creech b: 09 Sep 1915 in Alter, , IL . 3 Amanda Ellen Shoemaker b: 26 Jan 1912 ..... +Isaac John Robert Southerland b: 08 Feb 1913 m: 25 Oct 1935 d: 08 Sep 1977 . 3 Myrtle Shoemaker b: 24 Nov 1914 in , , KY d: 23 Apr 1957 ..... +Sherman Peck, Sr. b: Sep 1920 m: 05 Feb 1939 in Watts Creek, , KY d: 18 Feb 1988 2 James Thomas Shoemaker b: 29 Aug 1874 in , Lee, VA d: 14 Sep 1926 in , Harlan, KY ... +Maebelle Waddle Noe m: 15 Dec 1899 in , Harlan, KY d: Bef. 1915 . 3 Paul Shoemaker b: 1901 . 3 Earl Shoemaker b: 1903 . 3 Osie Shoemaker b: 19 Aug 1903 d: 15 Aug 1927 *2nd Wife of James Thomas Shoemaker: ... +Mary Noe m: 16 Jan 1915 . 3 Ray Shoemaker b: 04 Aug 1916 d: 21 Nov 1974 ..... +Bertha M. Reed . 3 Ina Shoemaker b: 07 Jan 1918 ..... +Tony H. Dietrich . 3 Henry Shoemaker b: 25 Jun 1920 ..... +Juanita Hayes . 3 Bennie S. Shoemaker b: 10 Feb 1923 in , Harlan, KY 2 Martha L. Shoemaker b: 28 Nov 1877 in , Lee, VA d: 01 Apr 1933 in Dizney, Harlan, KY ... +Benjamin Franklin Cloud, Jr. b: 15 Jan 1857 in , Clairborne, TN m: 30 Aug 1897 in , Harlan, KY d: 01 May 1945 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Josephine Cloud b: Jul 1898 d: 1917 in , , KY . 3 Thomas Tilmon Cloud b: 23 Jan 1901 d: 07 Jan 1972 in Harlan, Harlan, KY ..... +Leona Pressley b: 05 Jul 1902 in , , KY d: 04 Oct 1988 in Harlan, Harlan, KY . 3 Ida Bell Cloud b: 28 Jan 1903 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 19 Jul 1970 ..... +Steve H. Cherko d: 1941 . 3 Harrison Cloud b: 14 Nov 1904 d: 08 Jul 1989 ..... +Cora Johnson b: 15 Apr 1893 in Baxter, Harlan, KY m: 1924 d: 28 Sep 1971 . 3 Matilda Cloud b: 1906 ..... +Shelby Daniels . 3 Alberta Cloud b: 1908 d: Bef. Jul 1970 ..... +Bascom Daniels b: 07 Nov 1907 d: Mar 1974 . 3 Doxie Cloud b: 16 Jul 1914 in , Harlan, KY ..... +Archie Harris . 3 Octavia Cloud b: 11 Apr 1917 in , Harlan, KY ..... +Eulyses Emmett . 3 Dorothy Cloud b: 21 Mar 1919 in , Harlan, KY 2 King Hezikiah Shoemaker b: 22 Feb 1879 in Pennington Gap, Lee, VA d: 23 Oct 1958 in Harlan, Harlan, KY ... +Ida Elvira Johnson b: 04 Jun 1881 in Shaun, Harlan, KY m: 24 Jan 1901 in , Harlan, KY d: 21 Aug 1931 in Shaun, Harlan, KY . 3 Monroe Shoemaker b: 15 Jan 1904 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 16 Jun 1955 in Detroit, Wayne, MI ..... +Bessie Gadd b: 20 Mar 1903 in Disputanta, Rockcastle, KY m: 13 Dec 1923 in Covington, Keaton, KY d: 06 Mar 1969 in Harlan, Harlan, KY . 3 Thelma Johnson Shoemaker b: 01 Apr 1906 in , Harlan, KY d: 03 Jan 1964 in Montgomery, Montgomery, AL ..... +Verlin Elias Robbins b: 09 Jun 1911 m: 25 Mar 1930 in , Harlan, KY d: Feb 1988 . 3 Hazel Harriet Shoemaker b: 23 Dec 1907 in , Harlan, KY d: 19 Apr 1974 in Detroit, Wayne, MI ..... +Herbert Houston Rice b: 17 Mar 1905 in Harrogate, Claiborne, TN m: 29 Dec 1925 in Harrogate, Claibourne, TN d: 23 Apr 1986 in Inkster, Wayne, MI . 3 Victor Benson Shoemaker b: 18 Nov 1909 in , Harlan, KY d: 28 Mar 1977 in Frankfort, Franklin, KY ..... +Ruth Smith . 3 Ruby Shoemaker b: 22 Feb 1912 in , Harlan, KY d: 09 May 1987 in Knoxville, Knox, TN ..... +Thomas Clifford Summers b: 03 Apr 1908 m: 09 Sep 1933 in Lake City, Anderson, TN d: 15 Nov 1998 . 3 Gus Shoemaker b: 16 Oct 1915 in , Harlan, KY d: 19 Sep 1977 in Paris, Bourbon, KY ..... +Elizabeth M. Sydney Kelly b: 02 Apr 1914 in Paint Lick, Harlan, KY m: 15 Apr 1936 in , Harlan, KY d: 10 Jun 1959 in Paris, Bourbon, KY . *2nd Wife of Gus Shoemaker: ..... +Shaw Tinder m: Aft. 1959 . 3 Lorainne Shoemaker b: 09 Sep 1924 in , Harlan, KY ..... +Luster Otis Cottrell, Sr. b: 04 Mar 1911 in St.Charles, Lee, VA m: 03 Apr 1942 in Middlesboro, Bell, KY d: 06 May 1977 in Cincinnati, Hamilton, OH *2nd Wife of King Hezikiah Shoemaker: ... +Hazel Maude Mooney b: 30 Aug 1909 in , Bell, KY m: 03 Feb 1932 in Middleboro, Bell, KY d: 02 Mar 1973 in , Harlan, KY . 3 King Hezikiah Shoemaker, Jr. b: 20 Jan 1933 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Charles Willis Shoemaker b: 07 Jun 1935 in , Harlan, KY d: 05 Jun 1983 in , Hamilton, OH ..... +Minnie H. . 3 Bufford Wayne Shoemaker b: 06 Sep 1937 in , Harlan, KY d: 12 Apr 1992 in , Hamilton, OH . 3 Donald Bruce Shoemaker b: 16 Nov 1939 in , Harlan, KY d: 19 Nov 2005 in Harlan, Harlan, KY ..... +Clare Margaret Haynes m: 09 Nov 1964 . 3 Daniel (N.M.I.) Shoemaker b: 16 Nov 1939 in , Harlan, KY d: 15 Oct 1940 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Basil Clark Shoemaker b: 05 Jun 1943 in , Harlan, KY ..... +Hailey 2 Henry Benson Shoemaker b: 16 Apr 1881 in , Lee, VA d: 19 May 1954 in Dizney, Harlan, KY ... +Laura C. Waddle m: 19 Aug 1899 in , Harlan, KY d: Bef. 1911 . 3 Golden Shoemaker ..... +John Lawson . 3 Willie Shoemaker b: 1931 d: 1931 *2nd Wife of Henry Benson Shoemaker: ... +Maude Kelly m: 17 Jun 1911 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Hubert B. Shoemaker b: 12 Jun 1912 d: Nov 1984 ..... +Lavina Pace . 3 Lucy Shoemaker b: 28 Sep 1913 d: 12 Jan 1987 ..... +Dudley Baute . 3 Nell Shoemaker b: 30 Oct 1919 ..... +Arnold Hays, Sr. . 3 Lois Shoemaker b: 14 May 1935 ..... +Lloyd Napier 2 Drusilla R. Shoemaker b: 02 Mar 1883 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 26 Apr 1936 in Dizney, Harlan, KY ... +James T. Middleton b: 1880 m: 11 Aug 1899 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Laura Middleton b: 1900 . 3 Celia Middleton b: 1902 . 3 Kirby Middleton b: 1907 . 3 Lawrence Middleton b: 1906 . 3 Elizabeth Middleton b: 1910 . 3 Emily Middleton b: 1914 2 Lucy A. Shoemaker b: 08 Jul 1885 in , Harlan, KY d: 02 May 1926 in , Harlan, KY ... +Speed B. Irving b: 1882 in , , KY m: 01 Oct 1913 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Shafter Irving b: 02 Apr 1922 . 3 Elva Elizabeth Irving b: 12 Apr 1926 d: 23 Oct 1926 2 Sarepta A. Shoemaker b: 01 Jan 1888 in Dizney, Harlan, KY d: 02 Oct 1957 in Kenvir, Harlan, KY ... +James Allen Helton b: 11 Aug 1889 m: 08 Nov 1913 in , Harlan, KY d: Aug 1974 . 3 Nobe Helton b: 12 Oct 1914 d: 29 Dec 1999 ..... +Jean . 3 Marie Helton b: 05 Jun 1917 ..... +Blair . 3 Lige Helton b: 06 Mar 1921 . 3 Otis Helton b: 24 Jul 1924 d: 11 Jan 1953 in , Harlan, KY . 3 Drusilla Helton b: 11 Jan 1926 ..... +Riley Causey . 3 Victoria Helton b: 29 Jul 1930 ..... +Jess Smith Martha is the sister of my great grandfather, King Hezikiah Shoemaker and I descent from his first wife, Ida Elvira Johnson. Their son, Monroe is my grandfather.

    07/13/2006 11:16:00
    1. Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud, Ayers, Middleton, Chadwell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.3 Message Board Post: My wife Margaret Alice Young is the daughter of Eula Cloud b. 18 Sep 1908 Rose Hill, Virginia the daughter of William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA d. 28 Jul 1929 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA. and Sarah Ellen Fugate b. 10 Mar 1884 Lee Co. VA. William Steven Cloud b. 27 Oct 1865 Rose Hill, Lee County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin "Frank" Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA and Margaret Jane Ayers b. Jan 1843 Lee Co. VA. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] is the son of George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA and Elizabeth Chadwell b. 1804 Rose Hill, VA [daughter of David Chadwell Jr. and Nancy Lane. George Washington Cloud b. 1810 Patrick County, VA was the son of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 TN and Mary (Polly) Chadwell b. 30 Aug 1777 Pittsylvania [now Henry] County, VA. [Mary (Polly) Chadwell was the daughter of David Chadwell Sr. and Elizabeth Morgan. She was first married to Walter Middleton] Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 Rose Hill, Lee Co. VA [married to Margaret Jane Ayers] should not be confused with Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 Claiborne County, TN d. Dizney, Harland Co. KY. married to Nancy Middleton b. Sept 1827 daughter of Walter Middleton II and Sarah (Sally) Turner. Both of the above can be found in the census at the same time, the first Benjamin Franlin in Rose Hill, VA and the other Benjamin Franklin lived for a short time in Rocky Station, Lee Co. VA. The dates of birth is the first clue plus the pension file of Benjamin b. 1826 filed by Nancy. A careful review of the Rose Hill, Lee County, Virgina for each 10 year period will demonstrate that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834 is the son of George W. Cloud b. 1810. Further, from the census Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 seems to be the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 Henry Co. VA and Barthena Cox b. 1800 VA. Greenbury Cloud b. 1785 was the brother of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 mentioned above and both were sons of Captain William Cloud b. 17 Dec 1750 NC and Elizabeth Morgan second wife of William. Complicating the matter further is the fact that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1777 had a son by the same name i.e. Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1802 married to Elizabeth Mahulda Shultz. I believe a close study of the various related persons named Benjamin Franklin Cloud in the census data for each year will convince you that Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 married to Nancy Middleton is the son of Greenbury Cloud b. 1795 and Barthena Cox simply because all others are accounted for and the family of Greenbury fits the data in the 1840 Census and the others do not. Margaret and I spent quite a lot of time in the Court House in Jonesboro, Lee County, VA; Harlan County, KY court house; and the court house in Clayborne TN. We made copies of the documents including the marriage licens of Benjamin Franklin Cloud and Nancy Middleton. Further, we have old family pictures of Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. Jun 1834; Margaret Ayers; and their son William Steven Cloud, my wife Margaret's grandfather. We visited the Leftwich-Edds Cemetary where her grandfather and her baby brothers are buried and discussed this with living relatives. We also spent time in the local libraries is each area and made copies of the land records in these areas. Margaret and her brother and sisters were born there in Rose Hill and they have various living family members still living there. My first visit there with Margaret was about 1961 when several of the older people were still living.

    07/13/2006 04:47:47
    1. Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Rhonda. I would appreciate any information you can give me on Martha Cloud. Where she was born, how many siblings she had, how and when she died, when were Benjamin and Martha married and where were they married, and any pictures you have of Martha. I have no pictures of her. I realize very few pictures were taken back in that era, but it would be great just to know what she looked like. Thanks for answering. Jeanette Emmett Lewis. ( it's great know ing we are related in someway).

    07/13/2006 12:29:10
    1. Re: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. Jeanette
    3. rhonda_1961@yahoo.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: SHOEMAKER >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.2 > >Message Board Post: > >I would be more than happy to supply information about Martha L. Shoemaker's parents. She was the sister to my great grandfather, King Hezikiah Shoemaker > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html > > > Rhonda, that would be GREAT! Do you know if she was married to Benjamin Cloud? Any information you can give me (how she died, where she was born, how many siblings did she have, any pictures) would be greatly appreciate. Thank you so much, Jeanette

    07/13/2006 09:24:03
    1. Re: Cloud/Shoemaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SHOEMAKER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.2.1.2 Message Board Post: I would be more than happy to supply information about Martha L. Shoemaker's parents. She was the sister to my great grandfather, King Hezikiah Shoemaker

    07/13/2006 12:02:08
    1. Re: Comfort Jane Cloud
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/929.2.1.1 Message Board Post: You might want to take a look at the data on my web site, cant promise all is absolutly right, but might help. www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud

    07/10/2006 07:51:29
    1. Re: Comfort Jane Cloud
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/929.2.1 Message Board Post: i have recently found that some of my information was wrong and I am currently trying to recompose what I have.

    07/10/2006 07:35:22
    1. Re: Comfort Jane Cloud
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/929.2 Message Board Post: You might want to look at my data www.cloudweb.org I have Joseph Cloud, son of William and Elizabeth (Morgan) Cloud; marr to a Nancy Moore and 2nd to Delilah Reed, I have Jane Carpenter married to a Joseph (Pioneer) Cloud. Both of these Joseph's had a lot of children. It appear that they have interchanged for each other at time. I do not have the one married to Jane with any parents.

    07/10/2006 07:18:02