This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud, Brown, Day, McPherson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/931.1 Message Board Post: I have a James Washington Cloud who is also my brickwall. He is married to Margaret Elizabeth Young in the 1850 Noble Township, Wabash, Indiana census. According to that census he would have been born about 1800 in Virginia.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shields, Busick, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/931 Message Board Post: Looking for the parents of James Cloud who was married to Margaret Watkins in the 1850 census in Indiana, Orange Co., Northwest Township. This is my line but James is a brick wall for me. Thanks

Roberta, there was another lady in Webster Co MO 1860 which I believe was likely a widowed daughter-in-law of Benjamin CLOUD & Susannah BONDURANT. If she was a daughter-in-law, I do not know her husband's name. Her name was Mary A. and she was widowed living in Marshall Co AL in 1850. The reason I suspect she was a daughter-in-law is because two of the sons with her in 1850 were living with Benjamin Franklin & his mother Susannah in 1860 Webster Co MO. The census indicates she had some children born in Indiana. I have no idea if it might have been Hamilton Co IN which you might identify with if you have some strays there in deeds, marriages, or other records. Here are the census records for Mary. 1850 Marshall Co AL CLOUD, Mary A. 41 TN CLOUD, Angeline 15 IN CLOUD, Matilda 13 IN CLOUD, Mary A. 9 AL CLOUD, Leander P. 5 AL CLOUD, William D. 3 AL CLOUD, Frances 22 TN (male) 1860 Webster Co MO CANTWELL, William 28 TN CANTWELL, Angeline 25 IN CANTWELL, (Teresa ?) 2 MO CLOUD, Mary 45 TN ROSS, Adaline 25 IN ROSS, Columbus 25 TN 1860 Webster Co MO CLOUD, B. F. 30 (physician) TN CLOUD, Columbia 21 NC (nee BOULDIN) Johanna 9/12 MO Susannah 71 TN (nee BONDURANT) Leander 37 TN Leander P. 15 AL Dalis 13 AL (William D. above) Marriages in Webster Co MO: Matilda A. T. CLOUD to Columbus M. ROSS 31 Mar 1857 L. P. CLOUD to Mary E. EVANS 1 Mar 1866 B. Franklin CLOUD to Columbia BOULDIN 17 Dec 1856 Mary Ann A. CLOUD to William I. McKNIGHT 24 Dec 1857 Imogene Bennett Springfield, MO Imogene.Bennett@att.net

>Ron wrote: >This is a new study for me but I want to line up all the Clouds in the census >[1810; 1820; 1830; & 1840] by name and age in that vicinity and see what the >entire picture looks like. I have been following the discussion of Cloud families in Tennessee with interest as in my line, Elizabeth CLOUD, born about 1765, Stokes County, NC married Richard BONDURANTabout 1789 in NC. Their daughter, Jane Bondurant, was born about 1791 in North Carolina, but moved with her husband Nathaniel Barnes to Claiborne County, Tennessee, for a time, probably after 1810. Barnes was a Methodist minister, and Bondurant was a descendant of a Huguenot refugee who came into Virginia in1700. Probably they did not stay long in Tennessee as Barnes and Jane's parents all died in Hamilton County, Indiana. Elizabeth Cloud Bondurant had some familial connection to an Isom Cloud as shown by Indiana records, but I am unsure what the exact connection was. Does anyone have female descendants of Joseph or William Cloud of Stokes County, NC? I keep thinking that Elizabeth CLOUD, b. c. 1765, Stokes County, NC was probably a descendant of Joseph, but so far I have no proof beyond the fact that the given name Joseph was often used among descendants. I know of at least two Cloud-Bondurant marriages in addition to the one in my line. That fact and the coincidence of locations make me think that my line must connect to the other Clouds who went into Tennessee? Ron, are you including female descendants in your "entire picture" ? Roberta

Imogene, Ron, et al. -- You have convinced me about the identity of the Benjamin Franklin Cloud who married Nancy Middleton. The census data you cite, Ron, nails it. Good to have that cleared up. As to the larger question of his father's parentage, as well as that of the Benj. F. who married Susannah Bondurant and of the Joseph who was married to Jane Carpenter, I tend to agree with you, Imogene, that these were all sons of Capt. William Cloud Rev. S., of Stokes Co., NC/Henry>Patrick>Carroll Cos., VA, by his second wife, Elizabeth Morgan. Regarding Joseph, my notes on him refer to P. G. Fulkerson's diary as explicitly stating that his father's name was "William." Parenthetically, on the subject of this Joseph and the argument sometimes made that he was the Joseph who came "over the mountain" to what became East Tennessee, I would like to make the point that it would not be unlikely that any number of families in that neck of the woods at that time had a tradition about an "over the mountain" ancestor, since that is how virtually all of them got there. I think the fact that this Joseph (m. Jane Carpenter) was thus labeled within his own family doesn't rule out that the "over the mountain" Joseph in A. M. Cloud's account was, as has been argued in a previous comment in this thread, a different and earlier Joseph: his uncle, Capt. (Maj.?) Joseph Cloud Jr. of Stokes Co., NC, who spent a number of years in the Rogersville area before returning to NC. As to that older Benjamin you refer to, Ron, who in the 1830 census of Claiborne Co., was pegged as 70-80 years old (therefore born between 1760-1770), I propose that there's a good case to be made that he was yet another brother of Capt. William, Capt. Joseph, Isaac, and Jason - all of the Peter's Creek, NC/VA brood. I suggest that he was the same Benjamin who was listed in at least two pre-Statehood records: 1789 - A petition was submitted to the North Carolina General Assembly by "sundry inhabitants of the Western District, below Brown's Line." Included among the signatories were Isaac Cloud, Jason Cloud, Joseph Cloude, Jeremiah Cloud, Benj. Cloud, Tidence Lain (sic), and Tidence Lane. [North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh. General Assembly Records, Box 1, Nov-Dec 1789, Folder 18. In Tennessee Ancestors, Apr. 2004, p. 14 (Transcribed by Cherel Bolin Henderson)] 1790 -- On Hawkins County, TN., List of Voters (for representative for Congress, western district of N. C.): Benj. Cloud, Isaac Cloud, Jason Cloud, Joseph Cloud. [Hawkins County Genealogical and Historical Society, Distant Crossroads, vol. V, p. 2[1]] Other records indicate that this Benjamin also had a son named Benjamin. One of the questions yet to be answered (maybe it never will be) is whether he too ended up in Claiborne to add to the Benjamin Muddle. Like crossword puzzles, this stuff becomes addictive. Thanks for the good exchange of information. Harry P.S. to Ron - in your July 27 post, you listed the members of Susannah Bondurant Cloud's household as named by the 1850 census. When you wrote "Greenville," did you mean "Greenberry?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Imogene Bennett" <Imogene.Bennett@att.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: BENJAMIN CLOUD WILL FOUND IN CLAIBORNE > To Harry and others interested, I think there were two Benjamin Franklin > CLOUDs you are contending with. Benjamin Franklin CLOUD, the physician > s/o Benjamin CLOUD & Susannah BONDURANT, married in Webster Co MO 17 Dec > 1856 to Columbia BOULDIN. His wife's name was Columbia in the 1860 census > which had his mother living in his household. > > It is my belief Benjamin Franklin who married Nancy MIDDLETON in Claiborne > Co TN 14 May 1850 was s/o Greenberry CLOUD & his wife Barthena. > > I also believe Greenberry (married Barthena) and Benjamin (married > Susannah) were brothers, making the two named Benjamin Franklin first > cousins. Greenberry & Benjamin I believe were brothers of Joseph who > married Jane CARPENTER, their father being William CLOUD & Elizabeth > MORGAN. Greenberry named a son Morgan CLOUD according to census records - > James Chick was guardian 5 Dec 1854 for the minor G.B.M. CLOUD, so he > might have been Greenberry Morgan CLOUD although that is just speculation > on my part. > > Regarding the mention of dates of wills written, then probated, I don't > think there are very many which wait this long: court records show Joseph > CLOUD died between 11 Aug & 11 Nov 1823, but the final settlement of his > estate was not made until 18 Nov 1854 in Claiborne Co, some 31 years > later. > > Imogene Bennett > Springfield, MO > Imogene.Bennett@att.net > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ >

Imagene: I agree with you that 1) there were at least two Benjamin Franklin Clouds born approximately the same time [about 1770]; 2) I also believe that your Benjamin Franklin Cloud married Susannah Bondurant; 3) I also believe their son Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. about 1834 [the physician] as you say married Columbia Bouldin. 4) I also believe that the Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 married to Nancy Middleton was the son of Greenberry Cloud. As to whether Greenberry Cloud (married to Barthena) was the brother of Benjamin Cloud (married to Susannah), I have my doubts. This Greenberry can first be found in the 1820 Census of Lee County, VA and more closely connected with the Lee County, VA Clouds as well as the Chadwells and then after that date is found in Claiborne County, VA. This is a new study for me but I want to line up all the Clouds in the census [1810; 1820; 1830; & 1840] by name and age in that vicinity and see what the entire picture looks like. There are several candidates such as Samual Sr. and Jeremiah [the older members] are listed in the Claiborne Co. TN 1830 census. It is interesting to note that there was another Benjamin Cloud a little younger in Scott Co. VA in the 1830 Census. I have heard a lot of stories about how Joseph Cloud "came over the mountain" to Claiborne Co. TN but it should be noted that in 1830 he is still found in the 1830 census of Hawkins Co. TN and if he was ever in Claiborne Co. TN he was preceded by several other Clouds. Let's keep looking. It is possible that earlier genealogists confused these individuals and never took the actual ages into account. Of course, both Benjamin Franklin Cloud's i.e. the one that married Susanna and the one that married Mary Polly Chadwell could not have both been children of Captain William Cloud since they were approximately the same age. The only reason I bought into the idea that the Benjamin F. Cloud that married Mary Polly Chadwell was the son of Captain William Cloud is that they can be traced back to the area Captain William Cloud lived in VA. As a final note, these Clouds must have been very fond of "The" Benjamin Franklin. An interesting study is that of the "State of Franklin". I have seen documents that showed that Walter Middleton the first husband of Mary Polly Chadwell played a part in that story. Later, his son Walter Middleton Jr. became the father of Nancy Middleton the wife of our other Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 TN. Ron Wilson

To Harry and others interested, I think there were two Benjamin Franklin CLOUDs you are contending with. Benjamin Franklin CLOUD, the physician s/o Benjamin CLOUD & Susannah BONDURANT, married in Webster Co MO 17 Dec 1856 to Columbia BOULDIN. His wife's name was Columbia in the 1860 census which had his mother living in his household. It is my belief Benjamin Franklin who married Nancy MIDDLETON in Claiborne Co TN 14 May 1850 was s/o Greenberry CLOUD & his wife Barthena. I also believe Greenberry (married Barthena) and Benjamin (married Susannah) were brothers, making the two named Benjamin Franklin first cousins. Greenberry & Benjamin I believe were brothers of Joseph who married Jane CARPENTER, their father being William CLOUD & Elizabeth MORGAN. Greenberry named a son Morgan CLOUD according to census records – James Chick was guardian 5 Dec 1854 for the minor G.B.M. CLOUD, so he might have been Greenberry Morgan CLOUD although that is just speculation on my part. Regarding the mention of dates of wills written, then probated, I don't think there are very many which wait this long: court records show Joseph CLOUD died between 11 Aug & 11 Nov 1823, but the final settlement of his estate was not made until 18 Nov 1854 in Claiborne Co, some 31 years later. Imogene Bennett Springfield, MO Imogene.Bennett@att.net

Harry, I agree that the Benjamin Cloud that married Sussanah must have died about 1842. The Benjamin F. Cloud that married Mary Polly Chadwell died 14 Feb. 1845. They are completely different individuals. If you take a look at the 1840 census of both Claiborne Co. TN and Lee Co. VA you will find three individuals listed concurrently with the name Benjamin Cloud. 1840 Census of Claiborne Co. TN: Benjamin F. Cloud 0-0-0-0-1 [20-30 years old or born 1810-1820] Benjamin Cloud 0-0-2-1-0-0-0-0-1 [60-70 years old or born between 1770 and 1780] 1840 Census of Lee Co. VA: Benjamin Cloud 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0 [ 70-80 years old or born between 1760-1770] You will find this Benjamin listed with the following Chadwells: Pleasant; William; David; and Alexander....all a generation or two younger. This Benjamin married Mary Polly Chadwell. Now if you examine the Claiborne Co. TN 1830 Census you will find the following: Benjamin Cloud Sr. 0-0-0-0-2-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0 [ 60-70 years old or born between 1760-1770] .....Low and behold we find another a just little bit younger: Benjamin Cloud Jr. 2-2-2-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0 [50-60years old or born 1770-1780] With regard to the "one other point": Widowed Sussanah can be found in both the 1850 Census of Claiborne Co. TN Dwg. 23, Fam. 23 listed as Susan Cloud age 60 F. born TN; Leander Cloud age 27; Greenville Cloud age 26; Nancy O.Cloud age 20; Louisa Cloud age 15; Oleny Cloud age 8, .... along with what are probably married daughters and their children. The 1860 Missouri Census lists B. F. Cloud Physician as the head of the family but the family includes Sussana at age 71. I agree that Dr. Cloud was probably the son of Susanna. By the way I remember that in one of either the Lee County sources or the Claiborne sources there was a short write up on Dr. Benjamin Cloud. Dr. Benjamin Cloud however should not be confused with Benjamin Cloud b. 1826 that married Nancy Middleton. The doctor was born later about 1830-34. See the following: 1850 US Census of Claiborne County, Tennessee lists the family as follows: "Cloud, Benjamin F., age 24, with Nancy, age 22, T, KY" - C1-614-562. 1860 US Census of Harlan County, Kentucky list the family as follows: "Family 81, Cloud, B.F. age 33, TN; Nancy age 30, KY; Alexander age 7, TN; Greenberry age 6, Benjamin age 4, TN; Mary age 3, TN; James age 1, KY. 1870 US Census of Rocky Station, Lee County, Virginia reads as follows: "Dwg 73 Fam 73 Cloud, Frank age 44,M, W, Works Farm, born Claiborne County, TN" (1826); "Nancy, age 41, F, W, Keeping Hse, born Harlan County, KY" (1829); "Alexander age 18, M, W, Works Farm, born Claiborne County, TN" (1852); "Greenberry age 16, M, W, Works Farm, born Claiborne County, TN " (1854); "Benjamin age 14, M, W, Works Farm, born Claiborne County, TN " (1856); "Mary E. , age 13, F, W, (illegible), born Claiborne County, TN, (1857); "James, age 11, M, W, born Harlan County, KY " (1859); "William,age 8, M, W, Harlan County, KY(1862); "Shelly L. age 5, M, W, born Harlan County, KY " (1865); "Sarah age 2, F, W, born Harlan County, KY (1868). The Benjamin Cloud that married Nancy could not have been in two places at once. I spent quite a lot of time researching the Benjamin Cloud that married Nancy at the court house in Claiborne TN and Harlan County, TN. I made copies of their marriage certificate that was in one of the old record books and traced him every 10 years thereafter. Further, he did not go to Missouri but can be found in Harlan Co. KY. Nancy's father was in Harlan Co. KY a little earlier and I suppose that is why they went there. In addition, much more about Benjamin and Nancy can be found in the pension application filed by Nancy. The migration of this Cloud family can be determined by the census data: After their marriage in 1850 the family lived in Claiborne County, Tennessee until after Mary E. was born in 1857. They moved to Harlan County, Kentucky until after the birth of Sarah in 1868. They moved to Rocky Station, Lee County, Virginia and are found in the 1870 Census there. According to Nancy's pension application they moved back to Harlan County, KY and lived there for the remaining period of their lives. It should be noted that Benjamin Franklin (Frank) Cloud enlisted in the Confederate cause on 21 September 1862 and was paroled at Cumberlan Gap, 28 April, 1865. "Kentucky Confederate Pension #149 received 6-12-1912, Nancy residence of Harlan County, Kentucky since 1870, Nancy b. 1827 Claiborne County, TN. Service Co. G 27 VA Bat Cav; later 25 cav, served three years, "As far as she knows"; Co surrendered at Appomatox, VA, Ref. say B.F. enlisted 21 Sept. 1862, Co G, 25 cav, was paroled Cumberland Gap, 28 Apr. 1865. Husband died at Dezuryby (Dezney), Harland County, Kentucky, she has not remarried, "Have you a family?" "No". Gives William Cloud of Dezney, Kentucky as reference. Nancy signs "X", Pen. allowed 3 June 1912. Wm Cloud, Adm. of Nancy Cloud, deceased, dated 12 Jan 1914, Harlan County, Kentucky. Copy of marriage cert. Claiborne County, TN 12 May 1850" Found in Descendents of William Cloud, Note 636 Benjamin Franklin Cloud, by Kenny Cloud generated by Ancestral Quest. From this record we see that Nancy returned to Harlan County, Kentucky after 1870. In the census data, on and after 1880, we find "Frank" with Nancy living in Harlan County, Kentucky as follows: US 1880 Census of Harlan County, Kentucky District #12: "Frank Cloud, age 55, b. KY; Nancy,age 53, b. KY; Green, age 26, b. KY; James, age 21, b.KY; Bill, age 18, b. KY; Shelby, age 15, Sarah, age 12, b. KY; Frank (grandson), age 2, b.KY. " US 1900 Census of Yockums Creek, Mag. Dist. 2, Harlan County, Kentucky:"Benjamin F. Cloud b. April 1826, TN, age 74; Nancy (wife), b. September 1827, KY, age 72, Benjamin F. (grandson) b. October 1879, KY, age 22, James, (grandson), b. August 1879, age 20." US 1910 Census of Harlan County, Kentucky household # 80 lists family without Benjamin Franklin Cloud b. 1826 as follows: Cloud, Nancy age 84; Wm M. age 47; Frank age 32; Mary J. age 26 ; Henry age 17; Greenberry age 15; Louisa age 10; Laura age 7; Pearl age 7; Saran age 5; Serepta age 4; Jessie age 3; Alice age 3; Simon age 3. As you can see William is still at home with his wife Jane, Frank (the grandson) is still living there with his wife Mary. James (the grandson) has his own household #82 married to a Mary with two children, Harrison and Jessie. James the son can also be found with his family #89 married to Jane Browning. Alexander (son) can be found in household # 75 married to Nancy Jane Burhart. Every name index transcribed by Janette G. Nolan of Harrison, Ohio. Ron Wilson

Ron -- many thanks. I hadn't seen the will. Do you judge that the date (i.e., Sept. term, 1842) refers to the time it (the will) was probated? As we see, it was executed in 1839, so I can't see what alternative there might be to concluding that 1842 was the year in which it was probated and that therefore B. F. most likely died in 1842. As I said in my message, a CFA member who descends from this B. F's son William R. Cloud, seems convinced that he (B. F). was the son of William Rev. S. I know that she has done a lot of research, including a hands-on examination of available documents in Tazewell. One other point. I don't think your list of Susannah Bondurant Cloud's children included a Benjamin F., Jr., as have all other lists I've seen. Acc. to the group that runs the Claiborne Co. list on Rootsweb, the widowed Susannah was caught by the 1860 census in Webster Co., MO, where she was living with her son Benj. F. Cloud, a physician. The birth date I have for him is 1826, and acc. to what I have seen, he's the one who married Nancy Middleton. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: <MRJGA@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: [CLOUD] BENJAMIN CLOUD WILL FOUND IN CLAIBORNE > Harry, > > I found a will for a Benjamin Cloud in Claiborne County, TN with Susanna > Cloud as wife. See the following: > > Will of Benjm Cloud Sept Term 1842 > > "I Benjamin Cloud being sound and perfect mind and meory (sic) do > make > and publish this my last will and Testament in manner and form > following -- I > Give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Susanna Cloud all my Estate both > real > and personal to have the use and benefit of during her natural lifetime > and > after her death I will and order that said real Estate and whatever of the > said > peronal Estate may remain shall be equally divided among all my heirs. > "And whereas something has been received b the heirs that has left > my > house I want it to be noted on paper and kept for final Settlement --- And > should my wife give the heirs that are now miners anything let it also be > noted > for the Settlement. -- > "I hereby appoint my beloved wife Susanna Cloud Sole Executrix of > this > my last will and Testament in witness whereof I have here unto set my hand > and affixed my seal this fifth day of July one thousand Eight hundred and > thirty > nine -- Sined, sealed and published and declaired (sic) by the above named > Benjamin Cloud to be his last will and Testament In the presents of us who > have > here unto subscribed our names in the prestents of the Testator > > Benjamin Cloud (seal) > > his > Michael Pearson > mark > > Jacob Shultz Jr. > > Found in the Tennessee Records of Claiborne County Will Book (A) 1837-1846 > Copied under the Work's Progress Administration ....copied by Miss > Pauline > Essary; Typed by Miss Edith McVey April 4, 1938. > > THIS IS PROBABLY OUR SUSANNA BONDURANT BUT WHICH BENJAMIN IS THIS? > > Ron Wilson > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ >

I've seen several researchers connect Benjamin CLOUD who was married to Matilda TUCKER and lived in Hancock County and Grainger County Tennesee to Joseph CLOUD and Jane CARPENTER. Does anyone know what documentation that is based on? Often, there is a considerable discrepancy between the researcher's estimation of his birthdate and that indicated by census entries. Cindy Cloud

Harry, I found a will for a Benjamin Cloud in Claiborne County, TN with Susanna Cloud as wife. See the following: Will of Benjm Cloud Sept Term 1842 "I Benjamin Cloud being sound and perfect mind and meory (sic) do make and publish this my last will and Testament in manner and form following -- I Give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Susanna Cloud all my Estate both real and personal to have the use and benefit of during her natural lifetime and after her death I will and order that said real Estate and whatever of the said peronal Estate may remain shall be equally divided among all my heirs. "And whereas something has been received b the heirs that has left my house I want it to be noted on paper and kept for final Settlement --- And should my wife give the heirs that are now miners anything let it also be noted for the Settlement. -- "I hereby appoint my beloved wife Susanna Cloud Sole Executrix of this my last will and Testament in witness whereof I have here unto set my hand and affixed my seal this fifth day of July one thousand Eight hundred and thirty nine -- Sined, sealed and published and declaired (sic) by the above named Benjamin Cloud to be his last will and Testament In the presents of us who have here unto subscribed our names in the prestents of the Testator Benjamin Cloud (seal) his Michael Pearson mark Jacob Shultz Jr. Found in the Tennessee Records of Claiborne County Will Book (A) 1837-1846 Copied under the Work's Progress Administration ....copied by Miss Pauline Essary; Typed by Miss Edith McVey April 4, 1938. THIS IS PROBABLY OUR SUSANNA BONDURANT BUT WHICH BENJAMIN IS THIS? Ron Wilson

Earlier today a question was asked about Delaware Clouds I have information on NATHANIEL CLOUD` b. 1778 I hope this helps...if I can be of further help please ask son of Mordecia Cloud b. 2-28-1729 at East Marlborough, Chester MM, Chester County PA M. 9-13-1753 at Kennett Twp, Chester Co. PA d. 2-14-1801 at Upper Chichester, Delaware Co. PA father Jeremiah Cloud mother Ann Bailey Morrdecia first wife Ann Harlan b. 1729 at Kennett TWP, Chester Co PA d. 1757 at Chester PA son: Joel Cloud son: William Cloud b. 1754 at Delaware Co. PA m. 1795 Susanna Pennell d. 9-15-1795 at PA son: Jeremiah Cloud b. 1756 son: Benjamin Cloud b. 1757 at Upper Chichester Delaware PA m. 3-2-1794 to Lydia Walter d. 11-16-1825 son: Harlan Cloud b. 1760 m. 12-31-1783 at Old Swedes Church (Holy Trinity) New Castle, Wilmington De to Deborah Canby d. 12-7-1814 at Philadelphis PA dau: Ann Cloud b. 4-23-1775 m. 4-8-1798 at Concord MM PA to Even Peters son: NATHANIEL CLOUD b. 1778 Mordicia Cloud second wife: Ann Jackson m. 10-13-1757 at Chester PA Mordicia Cloud third wife: Agnes Morrison m. 1789 son: Joel Cloud Quacker Wightsbroough Monthy Meeting pg. 1043 Family birth registery Mordicia Cloud fourth wife: Ann Barchey m. 12-7-1814

Ken ... how nice for you <grin> .... I thought I had a virus attack like you did early this morning when I found that the mykindred.com site was down ... your site is up and on the same hosting service ... wrote email to support, tried to use their help chat and it didn't work ... mykindred still down at this time ... called and they said they had large power outage last night which took out Yahoo, CNN and some other major sites and most had been restored ... but not mykindred ... the support guy said 12 to 24 hours ..... sigh. Tom At 03:34 PM 7/23/2006, you wrote: >I have these folks in my data at www.cloudweb.org > >Ken Cloud

I have these folks in my data at www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mamawolf" <dfc921@gmail.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Use of Capitol letters in doing Genealogy on the Internet. > Kip, > Since your line is mainly in Delaware, would you by any chance have any > information on my line? I've got: > Nathaniel CLOUD/Catherine DAVIS b. 1778, had son George W. CLOUD/Sarah > [UNKNOWN] b. about 1805, had son Nathaniel CLOUD/Elizabeth[UNKNOWN] b. > about > > 1828 had son John H. CLOUD/Anna Elizabeth CHANDLER b. March 1854 or 55? > I'm > finding little to no information about George W. and apparently his son > Nathaniel and Elizabeth bounced back and forth between New Castle Co., DE > and Delaware Co., PA. Any info from Nathaniel 1778 on down would be > greatfully appreciated. John H. was my great grandfather, who appears to > be > an enigma in his own ancestral way. I've been told that John and siblings > (not sure how many) were "bonded out". Anyway, researching this particular > branch...... seems it is a mystery line........... > > Thanks, > Debbi > > May the Wind sing to you and the Sun rise in your heart. > ~Creator, whisper to me in terms I can understand, what it is You would > have me do... > and I will do it. Aho~ > Come check me out at http://etsi.etsy.com or > on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/etsi > > > On 7/23/06, NanaKip2@aol.com <NanaKip2@aol.com> wrote: >> >> SORRY...MY CLOUDS ARE ALL DELAWARE...SO CAN'T HELP YOU...BUT IT IS FUN >> LOOKING ISN'T IT... >> >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO ME ON MY FUNNY EMAIL LIST?...NO POLITICS OR RELIGION >> UNLESS THEY ARE FUNNY...LET ME KNOW...KIP >> >> >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >> ................................................................ >> Cloud Family DNA Project >> http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ >> >> > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > >

Folks, I am administrator of this list and several others. The use of CAPITOL letters in emails has always been a source of disruption on email lists of all types -- not just at rootsweb. For that reason, it is discouraged. It's not bad, it just causes problems. Blame it on the person who gets upset over something as simple as that, but it is still a problem for the list administrator who is trying to maintain decorum. - People begin to unsubscribe when there is either upset on the list (like someone complaining or using being abusive) or when there is too much email traffic -- and especially when it is not on topic. (This particular thread is way off-topic and there are surely some people in our group who aren't interested and who do not want to hear about it.) - Having people unsubscribe means less people to participate in the exchange of information and ideas about our family history. ... Were you writing just to me, I would never say anything about it. As administrator, however, I have to gauge the sentiment of the list and try to keep it productive. There is no "rule" about the use of caps -- but there are suggested guidelines for "etiquette" for email forums, and all caps is one of the things that is universally discouraged. http://www.cyndislist.com/internet.htm#Netiquette http://site.aol.com/netfind/scoop/newsgroup_etiquette.html http://www.emailreplies.com/ http://www.email-software.org/email-etiquette.htm http://www.learnthenet.com/english/html/65mailet.htm If you are having a difficult time reading it: a - get reading glasses (this is what I've done) b - Most email clients have a menu item allowing changing the text size c - position the mouse cursor over the text, hold down the control key and use the mouse thumbwheel to make the text larger or smaller (this doesn't work for all programs). So, as list admin, can we move off of this topic? Also -- if someone wants to write in all caps, don't let it bother you (of course, as admin, I can't know who is bothered and who isn't). Last, but not least, if something is happening on the list you don't care for, let the administrator know -- off the list -- so he/she can try to correct it with as little upset as possible. thanks, Tom Cloud

Thanks for adding to the exchange...things are always more fun when we share with out puter friends Kip

I made a copy of your email and will dig out my "stuff" and see if I have anything that will help you....I got discouraged because I got stuck...this may be the impetus to get me moving again......so in that sense...thank you...Kip

I must be doing something wrong because that doesn't work for me...HELP

Kip, Since your line is mainly in Delaware, would you by any chance have any information on my line? I've got: Nathaniel CLOUD/Catherine DAVIS b. 1778, had son George W. CLOUD/Sarah [UNKNOWN] b. about 1805, had son Nathaniel CLOUD/Elizabeth[UNKNOWN] b. about 1828 had son John H. CLOUD/Anna Elizabeth CHANDLER b. March 1854 or 55? I'm finding little to no information about George W. and apparently his son Nathaniel and Elizabeth bounced back and forth between New Castle Co., DE and Delaware Co., PA. Any info from Nathaniel 1778 on down would be greatfully appreciated. John H. was my great grandfather, who appears to be an enigma in his own ancestral way. I've been told that John and siblings (not sure how many) were "bonded out". Anyway, researching this particular branch...... seems it is a mystery line........... Thanks, Debbi May the Wind sing to you and the Sun rise in your heart. ~Creator, whisper to me in terms I can understand, what it is You would have me do... and I will do it. Aho~ Come check me out at http://etsi.etsy.com or on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/etsi On 7/23/06, NanaKip2@aol.com <NanaKip2@aol.com> wrote: > > SORRY...MY CLOUDS ARE ALL DELAWARE...SO CAN'T HELP YOU...BUT IT IS FUN > LOOKING ISN'T IT... > > WOULD YOU LIKE TO ME ON MY FUNNY EMAIL LIST?...NO POLITICS OR RELIGION > UNLESS THEY ARE FUNNY...LET ME KNOW...KIP > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ > >

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