Tom, I am dumb -- I have McAfee -- supposedly constantly updated. Okay? ORN

At 08:47 AM 8/11/2006, you wrote: >Tom, I am dumb -- I have McAfee -- supposedly constantly updated. Okay? ORN Olive, There is a link to "Windows Update" -- it may be on your Desktop or in your Start folder (click the Start button on your task bar and ... look there ... if not there, click the 'Programs' link in that same 'Start' list and look there. If you've not updated in awhile, you will have a bunch of updates. I recommend you study the list and only do the critical updates. ** some of those updates may cause your computer to be unstable! That's why I say to look at them. You will want to also do any updates to Media Player and Internet Explorer. I also suggest two free products that you install in addition to your McAfee: - Spybot Search & Destroy - SpywareBlaster And, one that costs a little - Spy Sweeper (and don't believe the hype on TV about the Apple vs. PC -- a little research will answer questions about that) If it's been awhile since you updated, you could spend several hours doing it now ... and, if you're on dial-up, you can probably go to the store while it's taking place. Here is the link to the Yahoo news item about the just-discovered vulnerability: http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20060811/tc_cmp/191901665 What often happens is -- a security researcher finds a way to use a feature of Windows to do things it's not supposed to do. They notify Microsoft and also publish what they found. Bad people read those publications and then work real fast to see if they can mess up your computer before Microsoft can issue a patch -- and before you install it. Tom

Folks, if you're running Windows XP, please update it to the most recent security level. A serious vulnerability has been discovered and patched. "This is not a drill." Please do it soon. Tom Cloud administrator

Hi Tom, I opened Ezekial Cloud's Revolutionary War Pension record...was that one of the ones? Anyway, it opened okay and I could scroll down though it. Lura

In a message dated 8/5/06 7:16:50 PM, gordonfinder@sbcglobal.net writes: >   http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/ForestCloudRS.php > Mac user, Tom, it opened right up. Leo

thanks for the help

Worked fine for me, Tom Ric ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:11 PM Subject: [CLOUD] help me check site I have a favor to ask. I need to check out some php scripts I put on the mykindred site and I can't check them from my own IP address. Pick one of the Revolutionary War papers from the What's New section and view it. Then, email me and tell me whether it worked or not. If you don't want to take the time to look into What's New, click on the link below for Forest Cloud's pension papers -- and, write me back and tell me if it worked okay for you. http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/ForestCloudRS.php thanks, Tom Cloud ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? Submit a brief description of your ancestry.

I have a favor to ask. I need to check out some php scripts I put on the mykindred site and I can't check them from my own IP address. Pick one of the Revolutionary War papers from the What's New section and view it. Then, email me and tell me whether it worked or not. If you don't want to take the time to look into What's New, click on the link below for Forest Cloud's pension papers -- and, write me back and tell me if it worked okay for you. http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/ForestCloudRS.php thanks, Tom Cloud

Copy of: X-Message: #1 ( With end do line symbols [=20 & =92 & =91 & =94] removed for easier reading; since different computers have different line lengths, depending on their computer format- setups). Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:44:54 -0700 From: Steve & Sharon McChrystal <mcchrystal@charter.net> To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: _44D2B4A6.9020502@charter.net_ (mailto:44D2B4A6.9020502@charter.net) Subject: Can this help someone -Joseph Cloud Ohio Joseph Cloud ~ Traveling Minister Traveling minister *Joseph Cloud* was an influential minister who encouraged Friends in South Carolina and Georgia to leave the south and move to the Northwest Territory and who held meetings for worship in Waynesville during one of his travels in 1800. In the summer of 1800, *Joseph Cloud*, from North Carolina and *JacobJackson*, from Tennessee, ministers, paid a visit to Ohio, held their first meetings at *George Harlan*s Deerfield; then proceeded to Waynesville and held one or two meeting there, and, lastly one at High Bank. This meeting and that at Deerfield were those alluded to in the memorial of Joseph Cloud on their way to and from Waynesville MEMORANDA: of the early settlement of Friends in the North-west Territory, and especially of Thomas Beals, who was the first minister of the Gospel in the Society of Friends who crossed the Ohio River/ by Gershom Perdue (Indianapolis, Indiana: Edited and reprinted by Willard Heiss, 1974. *Joseph Cloud* and family would later settle in Waynesville in 1805. He, and fellow Quaker minister, *Roland Richards* _http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/joseph-cloud-and-roland-richards-two.html_ (http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/joseph-cloud-and-roland-richards-two.html) , would be rival ministers in the newly established /Miami Monthly Meeting _http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/06/miami-monthly-meeting-of-society-of.html_ (http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/06/miami-monthly-meeting-of-society-of.html) . Friend *Joseph Cloud* was born in Chester Co., Pa., on March 1, 1743. His parents were *Mordecai Cloud* and *Abigail Johnson Cloud*. He and his second wife, *Hannah*, were two of the first Friends at /Cane Creek Monthly Meeting/ in North Carolina to be recorded as ministers. According to Cane Creek Monthly Meeting/ Minutes, *Joseph Cloud* made many minister trips between 1779 and 1804 to Tysons Settlement, to Friends on the Western Waters, to eastern Pennsylvania and to Europe in 1804. In 1799 he visited /Pee Dee Monthly Meeting/ during the time of great decline in the number of Friends in North Carolina as Friends moved into the Northwest Territory. The meeting was set down shortly after his visit. (See, /Cane Creek: Mother of Meetings /by Bobbie T. Teague [Greensboro, N.C.: North Caroline Yearly Meeting of Friends, 1995], pp. 26, 41 and 94). In 1800 *Joseph Cloud*, a minister of North Carolina who had been among the meeting on the western waters, visited South Carolina and Georgia, no doubt in the interest of removal. *Borden Stanton* wrote them urging them to go west in 1802. A certificate from Wrightsboro Monthly Meeting to Cane Creek Monthly Meeting, N. C., dated June 4, 1803 is the last evidence we have of Georgia Friends. They had departed to the great west/ (quoted from Weeks /Southern Quakers and Slavery,pg. 124 in Hinshaws /Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I/ (North Carolina) [Baltimore: The Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1991], p. 1041). *Joseph Cloud* died near Waynesville in Warren County, Ohio July 24th, 1816. It is believed that he is buried in the old Quaker Graveyard in Waynesville, although there is no record of it. The burial is mentioned in /Memorials of Deceased Friends Who were Members of Indian Yearly Meeting. /(Orthodox) published by Direction of the Yearly Meeting (Cincinnati: E. Morgan & Sons, No. 111 Main Street, 1857), p. 30. *Joseph Cloud* was married four times. He was married first to *Mary Earl Underwood Cloud* (b. 3 mo. 22nd 1743 in Chester Co., Pa. ~ d. 1 mo 10th 1789 in her 46th year, buried in /Cane Creek/ Cemetery) in 1763. They had eleven children: *Abner* (1764), *Samuel* (1766), *Jacob* (1767), *Jonathan* (1772),* Anne* (1773), *Joseph* (1775), *Mary* (1777), *Mordecai* (1780), *Daniel* (1783), *Joel* (1785), *Abigail *(1788). His second marriage was to Mrs. *Hannah* (*Beals*) *Hoggatt* on April 22, 1790. *Hannah Cloud*, the wife of *Joseph *and the daughter of *John Beals*, died on 2 mo. 4th, 1804, aged about 59 years and was buried at /Center Monthly Meeting/ _http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/center-meeting-clinton-county-ohio.html_ (http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/center-meeting-clinton-county-ohio.html) on February 6th. She died a little under two years before *Joseph *and two of his children moved to /Miami Monthly Meeting/. *Joseph Cloud* and children *Joel* and *Abigail* received on certificate at /Miami Monthly Meeting/ from /Cane Creek Monthly Meeting/ in North Carolina, May 10th, 1805. *Hannah Beals Hoggatt* was the niece of famous Quaker minister, *Thomas Beals* http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/10/friend-thomas-beals-first-quaker.html>, who was the first Quaker Missionary to the Indians of the Northwest Territory in 1775. His third marriage was to *Jane Ridgeway McKay* (Hinshaw says she was *Jane McCoy*) at Waynesville in October 1806 (She died December 1806). For more information about *Jane Ridgeway McKay*, see *The Robert McKay Clan * website webmastered by *Michael McKay*, _http://www.geocities.com/mckyrbnsn/lines/mackay/21.html_ (http://www.geocities.com/mckyrbnsn/lines/mackay/21.html) . *Andrew McKay* was *Jane Ridgeway Mckay*'s first husband. His fourth marriage was to Mrs. *Mary* (*Cook*) *Hunt *in 1810. *Joseph* moved his membership to /Center Monthly Meeting/ _http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/center-meeting-clinton-county-ohio.html_ (http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/center-meeting-clinton-county-ohio.html) in Clinton County 5th mo. 30 1810 to marry *Mary Cook Hunt* on 7th mo. 7 day 1810. See website: http://home.sprynet.com/ ~jrichmon/clou0001.htm <http://home.sprynet.com/%20%7Ejrichmon/clou0001.htm>. Also see, Hinshaw's /Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I (North Carolina)/ [Baltimore: The Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1991], pp. 348, 380, 651, 676 and 1041). Early Friends in the East petitioned the Continental Congress expressing their concerns about slavery on 4th day of the Tenth Month 1783. They expressed their moral objections and fears for the future of the United States if slavery were not dealt with properly (NARA~Seattle, M247, r 57, I 43, p. 337, Papers of the Continental Congress, 1774-1783). Five years later, Friends at the Yearly Meeting held at Wells Meeting in Perquimans County with representatives from North and South Carolina and Georgia again expressed their concern about slavery pointing out that Friends themselves /had yet to cleanse their hands of slave holding/, A new committee of 24 Friends was appointed to lead the fight against slavery. One committee member was *Joseph Cloud*, another was *John Beals* (probably his second wife's father) (see, _http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/petition.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/petition.htm) <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Equakers/petition.htm>). The Will of *Joseph Cloud* is located in the /Warren County, Ohio Probate Archives/ in the county courthouse in Lebanon, Ohio. OCP 13 # ~ DE O P.113 ~ 2 SEP 1816. Date Signed: 24 AUG 1813. Residence: Caesars Creek. Exec: Benjamin Butterworth. Heirs: Widow Mary, son Abner, Son Samuel, son Jacob, son Jonathan, son Joseph, son Joel, dau. Abigail, dau. Anne, gr. dau. Lucreta, son Daniel, son Mordecai (/Warren Co., Ohio 1803-1859, Will & Estate Records/ [Cardinal Research, 9500 Creekside Dr., Loveland, Ohio 45140, 1993], p. 22.) /posted by Karen Campbell at 3:28 PM <http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/joseph-cloud-traveling-minister.html>/

Friday, September 02, 2005 Joseph Cloud ~ Traveling Minister Traveling minister *Joseph Cloud* was an influential minister who encouraged Friends in South Carolina and Georgia to leave the south and move to the Northwest Territory and who held meetings for worship in Waynesville during one of his travels in 1800. “/In the summer of 1800, *Joseph Cloud*, from North Carolina and *Jacob Jackson*, from Tennessee, ministers, paid a visit to Ohio, held their first meetings at *George Harlan*’s Deerfield; then proceeded to Waynesville and held one or two meeting there, and, lastly one at High Bank. This meeting and that at Deerfield were those alluded to in the memorial of Joseph Cloud on their way to and from Waynesville/” (/MEMORANDA: of the early settlement of Friends in the North-west Territory, and especially of Thomas Beals, who was the first minister of the Gospel in the Society of Friends who crossed the Ohio River/ by Gershom Perdue (Indianapolis, Indiana: Edited and reprinted by Willard Heiss, 1974), p. 7). *Joseph Cloud* and family would later settle in Waynesville in 1805. He, and fellow Quaker minister, *Roland Richards* <http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/joseph-cloud-and-roland-richards-two.html>, would be rival ministers in the newly established /Miami Monthly Meeting/ <http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/06/miami-monthly-meeting-of-society-of.html>. Friend *Joseph Cloud* was born in Chester Co., Pa., on March 1, 1743. His parents were *Mordecai Cloud* and *Abigail Johnson Cloud*. He and his second wife, *Hannah*, were two of the first Friends at /Cane Creek Monthly Meeting/ in North Carolina to be recorded as ministers. According to /Cane Creek Monthly Meeting/ Minutes, *Joseph Cloud* made many “/traveling minister/” trips between 1779 and 1804 to Tyson’s’ Settlement, to “/Friends on the Western Waters/”, to eastern Pennsylvania and to Europe in 1804. In 1799 he visited /Pee Dee Monthly Meeting/ during the time of great decline in the number of Friends in North Carolina as Friends moved into the Northwest Territory. The meeting was set down shortly after his visit. (See, /Cane Creek: Mother of Meetings /by Bobbie T. Teague [Greensboro, N.C.: North Caroline Yearly Meeting of Friends, 1995], pp. 26, 41 and 94). “/In 1800 *Joseph Cloud*, a minister of North Carolina who had been among the meeting on ‘the western waters’, visited South Carolina and Georgia, no doubt in the interest of removal. *Borden Stanton* wrote them urging them to go west in 1802. A certificate from Wrightsboro Monthly Meeting to Cane Creek Monthly Meeting, N. C., dated June 4, 1803 is the last evidence we have of Georgia Friends. They had departed to the great west/” (quoted from Week’s /Southern Quakers and Slavery/, p. 124 in Hinshaw’s /Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I/ (North Carolina) [Baltimore: The Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1991], p. 1041). *Joseph Cloud* died near Waynesville in Warren County, Ohio July 24th, 1816. It is believed that he is buried in the old Quaker Graveyard in Waynesville, although there is no record of it. The burial is mentioned in /Memorials of Deceased Friends Who were Members of Indian Yearly Meeting. /(Orthodox) published by Direction of the Yearly Meeting (Cincinnati: E. Morgan & Sons, No. 111 Main Street, 1857), p. 30. *Joseph Cloud* was married four times. He was married first to *Mary Earl Underwood Cloud* (b. 3 mo. 22nd 1743 in Chester Co., Pa. ~ d. 1 mo 10th 1789 in her 46th year, buried in /Cane Creek/ Cemetery) in 1763. They had eleven children: *Abner* (1764), *Samuel* (1766), *Jacob* (1767), *Jonathan* (1772),* Anne* (1773), *Joseph* (1775), *Mary* (1777), *Mordecai* (1780), *Daniel* (1783), *Joel* (1785), *Abigail *(1788). His second marriage was to Mrs. *Hannah* (*Beals*) *Hoggatt* on April 22, 1790. *Hannah Cloud*, the wife of *Joseph *and the daughter of *John Beals*, died on 2 mo. 4th, 1804, aged about 59 years and was buried at /Center Monthly Meeting/ <http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/center-meeting-clinton-county-ohio.html> on February 6th. She died a little under two years before *Joseph *and two of his children moved to /Miami Monthly Meeting/. *Joseph Cloud* and children *Joel* and *Abigail* received on certificate at /Miami Monthly Meeting/ from /Cane Creek Monthly Meeting/ in North Carolina, May 10th, 1805. *Hannah Beals Hoggatt* was the niece of famous Quaker minister, *Thomas Beals* <http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/10/friend-thomas-beals-first-quaker.html>, who was the first Quaker Missionary to the Indians of the Northwest Territory in 1775. His third marriage was to *Jane Ridgeway McKay* (Hinshaw says she was *Jane McCoy*) at Waynesville in October 1806 (She died December 1806). For more information about *Jane Ridgeway McKay*, see *The Robert McKay Clan * website webmastered by *Michael McKay*, http://www.geocities.com/mckyrbnsn/lines/mackay/21.html. *Andrew McKay* was *Jane Ridgeway Mckay*'s first husband. His fourth marriage was to Mrs. *Mary* (*Cook*) *Hunt *in 1810. *Joseph* moved his membership to /Center Monthly Meeting/ <http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/center-meeting-clinton-county-ohio.html> in Clinton County 5th mo. 30 1810 to marry *Mary Cook Hunt* on 7th mo. 7 day 1810. See website: http://home.sprynet.com/ ~jrichmon/clou0001.htm <http://home.sprynet.com/%20%7Ejrichmon/clou0001.htm>. Also see, Hinshaw’s /Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I (North Carolina)/ [Baltimore: The Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1991], pp. 348, 380, 651, 676 and 1041). Early Friends in the East petitioned the Continental Congress expressing their concerns about slavery on 4th day of the Tenth Month 1783. They expressed their moral objections and fears for the future of the United States if slavery were not dealt with properly (NARA~Seattle, M247, r 57, I 43, p. 337, Papers of the Continental Congress, 1774-1783). Five years later, Friends at the Yearly Meeting held at Wells Meeting in Perquimans County with representatives from North and South Carolina and Georgia again expressed their concern about slavery pointing out that Friends themselves “/had yet to cleanse their hands of slave holding/”. A new committee of 24 Friends was appointed to lead the fight against slavery. One committee member was *Joseph Cloud*, another was *John Beals* (probably his second wife’s father) (see, http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/petition.htm <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Equakers/petition.htm>). The Will of *Joseph Cloud* is located in the /Warren County, Ohio Probate Archives/ in the county courthouse in Lebanon, Ohio. OCP 13 #15 ~ DE O P.113 ~ 2 SEP 1816. Date Signed: 24 AUG 1813. Residence: Caesars Creek. Exec: Benjamin Butterworth. Heirs: Widow Mary, son Abner, Son Samuel, son Jacob, son Jonathan, son Joseph, son Joel, dau. Abigail, dau. Anne, gr. dau. Lucreta, son Daniel, son Mordecai (/Warren Co., Ohio 1803-1859, Will & Estate Records/ [Cardinal Research, 9500 Creekside Dr., Loveland, Ohio 45140, 1993], p. 22.) /posted by Karen Campbell at 3:28 PM <http://qugenswohio.blogspot.com/2005/09/joseph-cloud-traveling-minister.html>/

Images of the pension applications for Rev. War soldiers: Ezekiel Cloud Forest Cloud John Coud Noah Cloud William Cloud are now on line. The easiest way to see them is to visit the "Whats New" link and scroll down do the (second occurrence of) Documents http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/whatsnew.php

What family does this man belong to -- his Revolutionary War Bounty Land Warrant #12919 of Oct. 12, 1790 for 100 acres is at the link below: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/histories/RS/Cloud,Joseph(Roll-196,image-320,file-12919).pdf

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/931.1.2 Message Board Post: Yes Ken thanks. I have all that info. I think you got some of it from me. Sure wish I got get a lead on his parents. Not even the DNA testing helped. Well some day

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/933 Message Board Post: I have acopy of a Patent number 125356 for 182 + acres in Elreno, OK Issued to Walter CLOUD in 1910. If you can need a copy let me know.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CLOUD, JONES, FITCH, WARD, KELLY, FARRELL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/932 Message Board Post: I have a copy of a certificate # 406 awarding Joseph F. CLOUD forty acres of land in Little Rock, AR. in 1834 If this matches an ancestor I can mail a copy to whoever requests it.

Cloud researchers, I'm puting this out on the web, thinking someone may be connected. Contact me if you see anything that may be close to your line. I can not find a thing about Jesse past, parents or anything. Thank you. Tim Mattingly Descendants of JESSE WHITMER CLOUD Generation No. 1 1. JESSE WHITMER1 CLOUD was born July 14, 1806 in PA (CHESTER CO.?), and died October 14, 1880 in RUSH CO.,IN. He married (1) JANE NELSON. She was born October 7, 1812 in PA, and died ABT 1840. He married (2) EVELINA ???? in PA. She was born 1806, and died October 19, 1832. He married (3) LETISHA BOLING June 9, 1844 in RUSH CO.,IN (P 81), daughter of JAMES BOLING and HESTER/ESTER SEALS. She was born November 21, 1815 in WASHINGTON/MERCER CO.,KY, and died January 15, 1876 in RUSH CO.,IN. Notes for JESSE WHITMER CLOUD: AS OF 4-6-99, I HAVE NOT FOUND JESSE BIRTH PLACE IN PA OR PARENTS. HE WAS MARRIED 3 TIMES AND HE CAME TO RUSH CO.,IN, ABOUT 1835. HIS 1st WIFE MUST HAVE DIED IN PA. HER NAME WAS EVELINA ..??.. AND THEY HAD 3 CHILDREN, ALL BORN IN PA. HE AND HIS 2nd WIFE, JANE NELSON, HAD 3 CHILDREN, THE FIRST BORN IN PA AND THE OTHER 2 WERE BORN IN IN. HIS 2nd WIFE MUST HAVE DIED AFTER THE LAST CHILD. JESSE MARRIED HIS 3rd WIFE JUN.9,1844, LETISHA (AKA LETTA) BOWLIN/BOWLING AND SHE AND JESSE ARE BURIED IN HOPEWELL CEMETERY, RUSH CO.,IN. Children of JESSE CLOUD and JANE NELSON are: i. NELSON CROFT2 CLOUD, b. March 16, 1834, PA; d. January 15, 1910, FRANKLIN CO.,IN; m. AGNES ANN FAUROT, December 5, 1855, FRANKLIN CO.,IN B.7 P.176; b. 1837; d. 1868. ii. ALLEN H. CLOUD, b. March 16, 1837, FRANKLIN CO.,IN; m. SUSAN ????, 1858. iii. SILILLAH E. CLOUD, b. March 5, 1840; m. JAMES G. COX, February 9, 1869, FRANKLIN CO.,IN. Children of JESSE CLOUD and EVELINA ???? are: iv. HESTER VENERABLE2 CLOUD, b. ABT 1830; m. WILLIAM VENABLES, December 31, 1850, FRANKLIN CO.,IN B.6 P.332. v. ANN COCHRAN CLOUD, b. ABT 1832. vi. EVALINE KNOTTS CLOUD, b. ABT 1832; m. (1) NATHAN KNOTT, January 27, 1852, FRANKLIN CO.,IN B.6 P.426; m. (2) WILLIAM M.SNODDY, July 15, 1874, FRANKLIN CO.,IN,B.9,P.514. Children of JESSE CLOUD and LETISHA BOLING are: vii. LETISHA2 CLOUD, b. IN. 2. viii. ALBERT WHITMER CLOUD, b. August 13, 1848, IN; d. December 9, 1926, FRANKLIN CO.,IN. 3. ix. MARY J. CLOUD, b. August 14, 1849, IN; d. August 1, 1878. x. JESSE CLOUD, b. ABT 1850, IN; d. August 18, 1879. xi. EMMA A. CLOUD, b. February 7, 1855; d. August 18, 1879. xii. SARAH AMANDA CLOUD, b. January 8, 1856; d. July 15, 1879. xiii. ELLIM CLOUD, b. January 4, 1857; d. November 10, 1876. Generation No. 2 2. ALBERT WHITMER2 CLOUD (JESSE WHITMER1) was born August 13, 1848 in IN, and died December 9, 1926 in FRANKLIN CO.,IN. He married (1) HARRIETT CROWELL March 26, 1870 in FRANKLIN CO IN,B.9 P.150, daughter of HENRY CROWELL and JULIA OSBON. She was born December 1, 1853 in POSEY TWP.,FRANKLIN CO.,IN, and died April 20, 1875. He married (2) DEBORAH ELLEN HUNSINGER April 30, 1880 in FRANKLIN CO.,IN. Child of ALBERT CLOUD and HARRIETT CROWELL is: i. JOHNNIE3 CLOUD, b. October 1871, FRANKLIN CO.,IN; d. November 1, 1872, FRANKLIN CO.,IN. Children of ALBERT CLOUD and DEBORAH HUNSINGER are: ii. JESSE3 CLOUD, b. December 1864; d. January 12, 1896, FRANKLIN CO.,IN. iii. LILLIAN (LILLY) CLOUD, b. January 23, 1881, LAUREL, FRANKLIN CO.,IN; d. November 15, 1965, RUSH CO.,IN. iv. CARRIE BELL CLOUD, b. January 13, 1883, FRANKLIN CO.,IN; d. April 29, 1909, FRANKLIN CO.,IN. 3. MARY J.2 CLOUD (JESSE WHITMER1) was born August 14, 1849 in IN, and died August 1, 1878. She married C.ENOCH CROWELL December 28, 1870 in FRANKLIN CO., IN (B9 P225), son of HENRY CROWELL and JULIA OSBON. He was born April 14, 1846 in FRANKLIN CO., IN ?, and died August 3, 1931 in FRANKLIN CO., IN. Children of MARY CLOUD and C.ENOCH CROWELL are: i. A-THA-R3 CROWELL, b. ABT 1871. ii. SUTTON CROWELL, b. 1872. 4. iii. EMMA ADELINE CROWELL, b. July 18, 1873, FRANKLIN CO., IN; d. March 15, 1954, CONERSVILLE, IN. iv. CLINTON CROWELL, b. 1876. v. CURTIS CROWELL, b. Unknown. Tim Mattingly gtm.3@insightbb.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/931.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry Ken, James Washington Cloud is not my James. My James had family in Orange Co., Indiana and was married to Sarah Pitts and Margaret Watkins. They are in your tree but I am looking for James' parents. My ancestor is William Thomas Cloud, his first son, by Sarah Pitts. Thanks anyway.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/931.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: When you get to my site, the search boxes on the upper left, just fill in Cloud and then James Washington. That will bring up a page with 2 JWs, he is the 1800 on, click on that and his page and info will be displayed.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/931.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Ken, I know this line if your James is the same as mine. I had a hard time telling from the site because I found no wives associated with him (that I found) but I may have looked at the wrong one. Email me and we can connect to dots.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/931.1.1 Message Board Post: I have him in my data, with wife and children, but have been unable to connect to any known Cloud line. see at www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud