I have Elmore Daniel Cloud, b 1865, m Laura Gregg. See my data at www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Re: Elmore Cloud > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Cloud-Phillips > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/446.2 > > Message Board Post: > > I would like more information on Elmore Cloud as I have a gg grandfather with this name. There are only 2 elders still alive and they are not talking. Any information would be appreciated > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > If you're new, please submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/446.1.1 Message Board Post: I am currently waiting for more information from my mother on documentation that she has located. My father's name if John Cloud and born in Ohio. I would like any information I can find.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud-Phillips Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/446.2 Message Board Post: I would like more information on Elmore Cloud as I have a gg grandfather with this name. There are only 2 elders still alive and they are not talking. Any information would be appreciated

about as close as I can come is a Elizabeth Kimbrough to a Winston Cloud in about 1900. See my data at www.cloudweb.org Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Hardin Barkes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Re: Martha Cloud Mealer 1833.................. > do you have a cloud married too a kimbrell > > BBarkes > [email protected] > [email protected] > [email protected] > clay co ms > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > >

my gg gfwas john cloud kimbrell 1833 BBarkes [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] clay co ms

do you have a cloud married too a kimbrell BBarkes [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] clay co ms

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/284.2 Message Board Post: just going thru threads and I have a Martha Jane Cloud, b 24 apr 1836, dau of Abner who married a Mealor. I have nothing further than that, but her line trace way back.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/242.245.393.458.474.507.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I, too, am related to John Faulkner and Minerva (James) Cloud. My grandmother, Josephine, was their daughter. She married Jay Leon Walker and lived in Crystal Valley, MI. Please feel free to contact me if this your family.

I have obtained a copy of land grants made to Joel Cloud, St. Paul Parish, Georgia in the year 1770 and 1772. These were English Crown Grants issued in St. Paul Parish in Georgia between 1755 - 1775. If you are a descendant of this Joel Cloud and would like to have the copies of the grants for you files, contact me with an address and I will mail them to you. Ray Shirley

Friends, I sadly report to you the passing of Billie (Mrs. James W.) Cloud. Many of you will remember her from Cloud Family Gatherings over the past 25 years. (She attended the Gathering in Huntsville in 2000, the one Jim promoted but did not live to see.) I believe the cause of death was "pulmonary fibrosis." We will sure miss her! Her obituary is published at: http://www.legacy.com/huntsville/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=656925 It is copied below. Please excuse multiple copies if you get them. Best wishes! Cec _________________________ Billie Cloud Died Dec. 12, 2002 Billie Hatchett Cloud, 80, of Huntsville, died Thursday. Mrs. Cloud, a native Huntsvillian, was a member of Soroptomist International. She was preceded in death by her husband, James W. Cloud, and was the daughter of Dr. William Clifton Hatchett and Minnie Johnson Hatchett. Survivors include three daughters, Carolyn Gallardo of Huntsville, Elaine Cloud, M.D. of Concord, N.C., and Teresa Crandall of Huntsville; stepbrother, Morris Worland of Titusville, Fla.; eight grandchildren; two great-grandsons; one niece and six nephews. Visitation will be 4 to 6 p.m. today at Laughlin Service Funeral Home. The funeral service will be 11 a.m. Monday at Holy Spirit Catholic Church with Father Francis Allen officiating. Burial will be in Maple Hill Cemetery with Laughlin Service Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Memorials may be made to Hospice Family Care, 2225 Drake Ave.,Ste. 8, Huntsville, 35805. Published in The Huntsville Times on 12/15/2002. Flowers & gifts • Charities • Guest Book -- see http://www.legacy.com/huntsville/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=656925

Ken, you are correct as to Annie Houston being a wife of George Augustus Cloud. Amanda Jane Pate is the mother of Wiley Preston Cloud and GAC is his father. We have not been able to find a marriage certificate in Williamson Co. for them. My great grandmother shall we say had a very colorful past. Wiley had a full brother by the name of John Andrew Cloud.He also had a half brother and half sisters. Children of Wiley Preston Cloud and Carrie Adeline Stearns/Starnes Nancie Alice Cloud Pate born 7 Mar 1903 TX married 2nd cousin William Monroe Pate son of Amanda Jane Pates brother Wiley Edward Pate and Katherine Matilda Jane Theo Bilberry / Bilbrey. Martha Ann Cloud Whitehurst Taylor born 1905 TX Charlie Edward Cloud born 1907 TX Wiley Jesse Cloud born 1909 TX Lonie Iona Cloud Finney Wilder Holland born 1913 TX Henry Alfonzo Cloud born 1919 TX Pauline Valentine Cloud Bumgardner Rosevear born 1920 TX Raymond Aubry Cloud born 1924 TX John Andrew Cloud born 15 April 1874 Williamson County TX died 20 March 1941 Georgetown Williamson Co. TX buried Whiteley Cem. Georgetown Williamson Co. TX Married Martha Rachel Molina Adams aka Mrs. Dyer Brooks 15 April 1908 Georgetown Williamson Co. TX Children: John Edward Wiley Cloud born 1909 TX Ella Jane born 1911 TX Rosa Lee born 1913 TX Lester born 1915 TX > [Original Message] > From: Ken Cloud <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 12/13/02 9:26:21 AM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] RE: Wiley Preston Cloud > > Margaret > > Thanks for the input. I have Annie Houston as wife of George Augustus > Cloud, dont have Amanda Jane Pate anyplace in my data. Was this another > wife or is my data wrong, which it very well could be? I guess that may be > why WPC was in my listing of folks without known parents. Let me know when > you have time. Merry Christmas. > > Ken Cloud > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Lindly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:26 AM > Subject: [CLOUD-L] RE: Wiley Preston Cloud > > > > Ken, > > You should have that information in your files. > > Wiley Preston Cloud born: 3 August 1876 Georgetown Williamson Co. Texas > > died: 18 August 1955 Bell Gardens Loa Angeles Co. CA > > Marr: 31 Mar 1901 Travis Co. TX > > Sp. Carrie Adeline Stearns aka Starnes > > Wiley Preston Cloud was the son of George Augustus Cloud and Amanda Jane > > Pate. > > George August Cloud was the son of William Augustine Cloud and Elizabeth > > Grace Kennedy. > > William Augustine Cloud was the son of Joseph Cloud and Martha "Patty" > > Nettles. > > Joseph Cloud was the son of William Cloud and Alice Hardin. > > William Cloud was the son of William Cloud and Elizabeth Hayes. > > William Cloud was the son of Jeremiah Cloud and Elizabeth Ann Baily. > > Jeremiah Cloud was the son of William Cloud and Susan James. > > William Cloud was the son of Robert Cloude and Jane/Joan Norys > > Robert Cloude was the son of Robert Cloude and Isabell Bred/Collins > > Robert Cloude was the son of Cloude of England > > --- Margaret Lindly > > --- [email protected] > > --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .................................................................. > > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > > If you're new, please submit a brief description of your ancestry. > > Cloud HomePages: http://mykindred.com/cloud > > > > > --- Margaret Lindly --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

Rex, I've been waiting to see your research and wanted to thank you for sending it to the Cloud list. As a descendant of James who has always felt there was a definite connection between the Jackson County FL. & Decatur County GA Clouds I appreciate all the hard work you've obviously done. I've seen all the documents you posted as proof except for the 28 Sep 1842 JAMES CLOUD transfers share of his father JOHN'S estate to REUBEN CLOUD and I hope to find this one. It would be wonderful to finally have a family to tie James Cloud in to. We've been a branch looking for a (family) tree for quite some time! Thanks again for all your efforts, Melanie Young -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: Monday, December 09, 2002 06:51:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLOUD-L] BRICK WALLS BETWEEN FLORIDA & GEORGIA NO MORE BRICK WALLS BETWEEN JACKSON CO., FL AND DECATUR CO., GA According to the Tax Rolls of Jackson County, FL, there were no CLOUD names contained on the rolls for the year 1845. Then, one year later, in 1846 the names of JAMES (JAS) CLOUD and JOHN CLOUD appear on the rolls. Some researchers have assumed that James and John were brothers from Decatur Co., GA and that they were the sons of JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782]. The names match but evidence has been lacking to prove the case. I agree with the assumptions and would like to present what I consider to be evidence to prove them. CASE FOR JOHN CLOUD [REPEATED FROM A PREVIOUS POSTING] On 29 August 2001, I posted proof on "CLOUD-L" that the JOHN CLOUD shown on the 1850 and 1860 US Census for Jackson Co., FL was indeed the same JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817] of Decatur Co, GA and who was a proven son of JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782]. That proof consisted of a 250 acre tract of land in Decatur Co., GA, identified as Lot 69 District 21, which was sold to JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817] on 28 September 1842. [Ref. Decatur Co. Deed Book F-9] .He retained ownership of this land after moving to Jackson County, FL in 1846. Then on 20 December 1854, JOHN CLOUD of Jackson Co., FL sold the tract of Decatur County land to William C. Watson, also of Jackson Co., FL. [Ref. Jackson County Deed Book B-255] Additional details related to this proof can be found in my 29 Aug 2001 posting to "CLOUD-L". CASE FOR JAMES CLOUD Unfortunately, JAMES CLOUD did not own Decatur Co., GA land at the time he moved to Jackson Co., FL. So, we will need to identify other forms of evidence which will permit us to conclude that the JAMES CLOUD living in Jackson Co., FL is the same JAMES CLOUD [b: c1814] who lived in Decatur Co., GA before 1845 and -was a proven son of JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782]. FACT: Jackson Co., FL census records for 1850, 1860, and 1870 show that JAMES CLOUD was born in South Carolina. While census records prior to 1850 did not show places of birth, we do know that JAMES CLOUD [b: c 1814] of Decatur Co., GA was born in the state of South Carolina. His father, JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782] was in Edgefield Co., SC for positive until 21 Sep 1810 when he sold 250 Acres of land to John Matthews, and was probably there until 15 Dec 1817 when he was shown to be in Twiggs Co., GA. Another of John's sons, PHILLIP CLOUD, was born in South Carolina in 1809 FACT: Age consistency should lend credibility to our comparison of the JAMES CLOUD in Jackson Co., FL with the JAMES CLOUD in Decatur Co., GA. And, if you make some allowances, you will find that our assumptions can be confirmed. Let's examine the US Census records In Jackson Co., FL for JAMES CLOUD. His 1850 census age of 40 leads to a year of birth of 1810. Similarly, his 1860 census age of 51 leads to a year of birth of 1809. But, for some reason, his age in the 1870 census was shown as 50 leading to his year of birth as 1820. A reasonable allowance would be to assume that the age in 1870 is 60 years old and not 50. We will never know why the Census Taker wrote 50 for the age of JAMES CLOUD in the 1870 census. Now, lets go to JAMES CLOUD in Decatur Co., GA. The best indicator for his true age is the Decatur Co., GA Tax Digest. When a male reaches the age of 21 in Georgia, he is automatically assessed a tax which is identified as a "Pole Tax". The Pole Tax is applied to this individual each year until he reaches the age of 50. In the case of JAMES CLOUD, he first appears on the Decatur County Tax Digest for the year of 1835. Subtracting 21 from 1835 gives a year of birth of 1814. If you look at the 1840 census for Decatur Co., GA, JAMES CLOUD shows as a male over 15 and under 20. THIS IS A DIRECT CONTRADICTION OF THE POLE TAX ASSESSMENT IN THE YEAR 1835. Therefore, a second reasonable allowance would be to assume the census taker made his mark for JAMES CLOUD in the wrong column and should have shown it in the column for "Over 20 and Under 30". I have looked at that census page many times and the absence of ruled lines, both vertically and horizontally, make this type of error highly probable, especially since the entry for JAMES CLOUD falls at the bottom of the census page and none of the entries line up very well. Couple this with the fact that his younger brother, JOHN CLOUD [b: 1817] appears in the 1840 Census for Early Co., GA as a male "Over 20 and Under 30". FACT: Timing of Events. If you examine the chronology of events related to JAMES CLOUD [b: 1814] during the period from 1840 to 1846, you can get a very real picture of his PRESENCE in Decatur Co., GA through 1945 as well as his ABSENCE after1845.. In 1840, JAMES CLOUD is in the US Census for Decatur Co., GA 11 Sep 1841 JAMES CLOUD issues a receipt to his Uncle Reuben Cloud re Adm. Estate of his father, John Cloud [Book F-6] 1841 JAMES CLOUD appears on the Decatur Co., GA Tax Digest for a Pole Tax for fourth time. [Previous times were 1835, 1838, and 1839] 8 Jan 1842 JAMES CLOUD at sale of JOHN CLOUD'S personal property. 28 Sep 1842 JAMES CLOUD transfers share of his father JOHN'S estate to REUBEN CLOUD. 1845 JAMES CLOUD appears on the Decatur Co., GA Tax List for the last time. Shows as a Tax Defaulter 1846 JAMES CLOUD appears, for the first time, on the Jackson Co, FL tax list. No Clouds appear prior to this date. 1850 US Census for Jackson Co., FL P.89 JAMES (40)SC, EDNY (23)NC It is interesting to note that a similar chronology can be made for JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817]. In other words, these two brothers were in Decatur Co, GA at the same time AND they vanished from the scene at the same time AND they both appeared in Jackson Co., FL at the same time. CONCLUSIONS: And there you have it. Each of the above FACTS standing alone might be considered circumstantial evidence. But when combined, I believe they make an evidentiary argument. The next issue of the Cloud Family Journal will contain a summary of the research I have done to connect the CLOUDS in Decatur County, GA with the CLOUDS in Edgefield County, SC. And the information contained therein reinforces the basic positions outlined above. In other words, the Journal article presents the proof that JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1784] was the father of four sons, PHILLIP CLOUD [b: c 1809] SC, DANIEL CLOUD [b: c 1811] GA, JAMES CLOUD [b: c 1814] SC, and JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817] GA. The article also accounts for some of these sons being born in the state of South Carolina. Nothing in life is absolute, especially in our genealogical research. A lot of printed information represents someone's best guess or interpretation of the facts as they see them. With this thought in mind, I sincerely ask for the thoughts and ideas of other researchers that surely will lead us to a better understanding of our ancestors. Ralph Byron "Rex" Sanders ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://raogk.rootsweb.com .

Rex Sanders wrote: > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Cloud > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/219.235.515 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I need help desperatelySusan Eva Cloud (Jackson Co, Fl)>John Wesley Cloud, (5Dec1859,Jackson Co, Fl)>James Cloud(1809 in SC)>Peter Cloud, ABT1751 (Edgefield Dist. SC) . Peter was born to ??Cloud and Elizabeth? Do you have any info? I'm desperate!! I haven't been able to find anything else. Ada > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > > If you're new, please submit a brief description of your ancestry. > > Cloud HomePages: http://mykindred.com/cloud > > Ada: I have done a considerable amount of research on the Clouds in > Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina that includes the names that you > quote. However, I have not done any research in Alabama. > > Following is a direct line Ancestor Report (without siblings) showing the > line, as I have it, from John Wesley Cloud of Florida through Peter Cloud > in GA and SC.. > > Ancestors of John Wesley Cloud b: 1857 > > 1. John Wesley. Cloud, born December 1857 in Jackson County, FL; died > 1920 in Jackson County, FL. He was the son of 2. James Cloud and 3. > Matilda Griffin. He married (1) Susan C. Brogden 18 January 1880 in > Jackson Co., Fl. She was born Abt. 1860 in FL, and died Unknown. > > 2. James Cloud, born Abt. 1814 in SC; died November 1878 in Jackson > County, FL. He was the son of 4. John Cloud and 5. Mary Shipes. He > married 3. Matilda Griffin 01 October 1854 in Jackson Co., Fl. She was > born December 1832 in GA; and died Abt. 1915 in Jackson Co., Fl. > > 4. John Cloud, born Abt. 1782; died 24 August 1841 in Decatur Co., Ga. > He was the son of 8. Peter Cloud and 9. Elizabeth __________. He married > 5. Mary Shipes Abt. 1805 in Edgefield District, SC. She was born Abt. 1785 > and died Bef. 1838. She was the daughter of 10. Phillip Shipes and 11. > Sary __________. > > 8. Peter Cloud, born Bef. 1755; died Bef. 1820. He was the son of 16. > Jeremiah Cloud and 17. Sarah __________. He married 9. Elizabeth > __________ Bef. 1782. She was born Bet. 1756 - 1765; and died Aft. 1820. > > I have just completed some research to PROVE that James Cloud, the father > of John Wesley Cloud, moved from Decatur Co., GA to Jackson Co., FL in 1846 > and is indeed the son of John Cloud (b: c 1782). I plan to post this > report to Cloud-L within the next two or three weeks so the timing of your > inquiry is perfect. > > If you have more than just a casual interest in the Cloud line, I strongly > urge you to join the Cloud Family Association if you haven't done so > already. The next issue of the Cloud Family Journal will contain an > in-depth article about the Clouds in Southwest Georgia and Edgefield > District, SC. > > I hope the above information is useful and I would prefer to use the > Cloud-L forum for any exchange of questions that may arise in the future. > THANKS Ralph Byron "Rex" Sanders > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud/ ADA: This is a follow up to the above message about my plans to post a research report concerning James Cloud of Jackson Co., FL to CLOUD-L. For your information, this was posted a few minutes ago under the subject of "BRICK WALLS BETWEEN FLORIDA & GEORGIA". I welcome your comments as well as the comments of others who may have some information to add. Ralph Byron "Rex" Sanders

NO MORE BRICK WALLS BETWEEN JACKSON CO., FL AND DECATUR CO., GA According to the Tax Rolls of Jackson County, FL, there were no CLOUD names contained on the rolls for the year 1845. Then, one year later, in 1846 the names of JAMES (JAS) CLOUD and JOHN CLOUD appear on the rolls. Some researchers have assumed that James and John were brothers from Decatur Co., GA and that they were the sons of JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782]. The names match but evidence has been lacking to prove the case. I agree with the assumptions and would like to present what I consider to be evidence to prove them. CASE FOR JOHN CLOUD [REPEATED FROM A PREVIOUS POSTING] On 29 August 2001, I posted proof on "CLOUD-L" that the JOHN CLOUD shown on the 1850 and 1860 US Census for Jackson Co., FL was indeed the same JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817] of Decatur Co, GA and who was a proven son of JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782]. That proof consisted of a 250 acre tract of land in Decatur Co., GA, identified as Lot 69 District 21, which was sold to JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817] on 28 September 1842. [Ref. Decatur Co. Deed Book F-9] .He retained ownership of this land after moving to Jackson County, FL in 1846. Then on 20 December 1854, JOHN CLOUD of Jackson Co., FL sold the tract of Decatur County land to William C. Watson, also of Jackson Co., FL. [Ref. Jackson County Deed Book B-255] Additional details related to this proof can be found in my 29 Aug 2001 posting to "CLOUD-L". CASE FOR JAMES CLOUD Unfortunately, JAMES CLOUD did not own Decatur Co., GA land at the time he moved to Jackson Co., FL. So, we will need to identify other forms of evidence which will permit us to conclude that the JAMES CLOUD living in Jackson Co., FL is the same JAMES CLOUD [b: c1814] who lived in Decatur Co., GA before 1845 and -was a proven son of JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782]. FACT: Jackson Co., FL census records for 1850, 1860, and 1870 show that JAMES CLOUD was born in South Carolina. While census records prior to 1850 did not show places of birth, we do know that JAMES CLOUD [b: c 1814] of Decatur Co., GA was born in the state of South Carolina. His father, JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782] was in Edgefield Co., SC for positive until 21 Sep 1810 when he sold 250 Acres of land to John Matthews, and was probably there until 15 Dec 1817 when he was shown to be in Twiggs Co., GA. Another of John's sons, PHILLIP CLOUD, was born in South Carolina in 1809 FACT: Age consistency should lend credibility to our comparison of the JAMES CLOUD in Jackson Co., FL with the JAMES CLOUD in Decatur Co., GA. And, if you make some allowances, you will find that our assumptions can be confirmed. Let's examine the US Census records In Jackson Co., FL for JAMES CLOUD. His 1850 census age of 40 leads to a year of birth of 1810. Similarly, his 1860 census age of 51 leads to a year of birth of 1809. But, for some reason, his age in the 1870 census was shown as 50 leading to his year of birth as 1820. A reasonable allowance would be to assume that the age in 1870 is 60 years old and not 50. We will never know why the Census Taker wrote 50 for the age of JAMES CLOUD in the 1870 census. Now, lets go to JAMES CLOUD in Decatur Co., GA. The best indicator for his true age is the Decatur Co., GA Tax Digest. When a male reaches the age of 21 in Georgia, he is automatically assessed a tax which is identified as a "Pole Tax". The Pole Tax is applied to this individual each year until he reaches the age of 50. In the case of JAMES CLOUD, he first appears on the Decatur County Tax Digest for the year of 1835. Subtracting 21 from 1835 gives a year of birth of 1814. If you look at the 1840 census for Decatur Co., GA, JAMES CLOUD shows as a male over 15 and under 20. THIS IS A DIRECT CONTRADICTION OF THE POLE TAX ASSESSMENT IN THE YEAR 1835. Therefore, a second reasonable allowance would be to assume the census taker made his mark for JAMES CLOUD in the wrong column and should have shown it in the column for "Over 20 and Under 30". I have looked at that census page many times and the absence of ruled lines, both vertically and horizontally, make this type of error highly probable, especially since the entry for JAMES CLOUD falls at the bottom of the census page and none of the entries line up very well. Couple this with the fact that his younger brother, JOHN CLOUD [b: 1817] appears in the 1840 Census for Early Co., GA as a male "Over 20 and Under 30". FACT: Timing of Events. If you examine the chronology of events related to JAMES CLOUD [b: 1814] during the period from 1840 to 1846, you can get a very real picture of his PRESENCE in Decatur Co., GA through 1945 as well as his ABSENCE after1845.. In 1840, JAMES CLOUD is in the US Census for Decatur Co., GA 11 Sep 1841 JAMES CLOUD issues a receipt to his Uncle Reuben Cloud re Adm. Estate of his father, John Cloud [Book F-6] 1841 JAMES CLOUD appears on the Decatur Co., GA Tax Digest for a Pole Tax for fourth time. [Previous times were 1835, 1838, and 1839] 8 Jan 1842 JAMES CLOUD at sale of JOHN CLOUD'S personal property. 28 Sep 1842 JAMES CLOUD transfers share of his father JOHN'S estate to REUBEN CLOUD. 1845 JAMES CLOUD appears on the Decatur Co., GA Tax List for the last time. Shows as a Tax Defaulter 1846 JAMES CLOUD appears, for the first time, on the Jackson Co, FL tax list. No Clouds appear prior to this date. 1850 US Census for Jackson Co., FL P.89 JAMES (40)SC, EDNY (23)NC It is interesting to note that a similar chronology can be made for JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817]. In other words, these two brothers were in Decatur Co, GA at the same time AND they vanished from the scene at the same time AND they both appeared in Jackson Co., FL at the same time. CONCLUSIONS: And there you have it. Each of the above FACTS standing alone might be considered circumstantial evidence. But when combined, I believe they make an evidentiary argument. The next issue of the Cloud Family Journal will contain a summary of the research I have done to connect the CLOUDS in Decatur County, GA with the CLOUDS in Edgefield County, SC. And the information contained therein reinforces the basic positions outlined above. In other words, the Journal article presents the proof that JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1784] was the father of four sons, PHILLIP CLOUD [b: c 1809] SC, DANIEL CLOUD [b: c 1811] GA, JAMES CLOUD [b: c 1814] SC, and JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1817] GA. The article also accounts for some of these sons being born in the state of South Carolina. Nothing in life is absolute, especially in our genealogical research. A lot of printed information represents someone's best guess or interpretation of the facts as they see them. With this thought in mind, I sincerely ask for the thoughts and ideas of other researchers that surely will lead us to a better understanding of our ancestors. Ralph Byron "Rex" Sanders

Ken Cloud wrote: > > I have added listing of Clouds in my Cloud database for which I have no known parents. Take a look, if you can help me fit them into the Cloud data, sure would be nice. > > www.cloudweb.org > Ken Cloud Ken: I will be delighted to help in any way I can. Please confirm that I am looking at the right list. Your web site, Cloud data base, Name Index, and all the names not having surnames. Let me know and I will compare against my notes. REX

I have added listing of Clouds in my Cloud database for which I have no known parents. Take a look, if you can help me fit them into the Cloud data, sure would be nice. www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud

I caught your James Cloud from Clinton Co., IN. Did he have any sisters. I am looking for a Ruth Cloud who married William Sturdevant, and had children Shepherd and Martha Francis. She died approx 1843 in Va or in IN. Hope you can help me. Joyce-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Re: James Cloud b 1931 married Clare Porter 1957Hebron,Ct. >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: cloud/porter >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/751.1.1 > >Message Board Post: > >Did your James Cloud live in Clinton, Ind.? and marry Clare Porter of Connecticut??? Do you have the obit. for the year 2001? How many kids did they have? MP > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Cloud Family Association sites: >http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: cloud/porter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/751.1.1 Message Board Post: Did your James Cloud live in Clinton, Ind.? and marry Clare Porter of Connecticut??? Do you have the obit. for the year 2001? How many kids did they have? MP

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/757 Message Board Post: I have been looking off and on for several years for info on my grandmother Ada Cloud the info I have is as follows Born Dec 15 1886 in Arkansas,her parents were also born in Arkanasa according to the 1910 and 1920 census but her headstone gives a different date of birth.She died Dec 1932 in Vernon Tx the obituary said she was suvived by a brother and sister but gave no names.Death certificate gave no info other than cause of death.Ada may not have been her full name or it may have been a nickname because her headstone says Ader.She married Nathan Woods in 1908 or 1909 in Arkansas or Missouri they had 10 or 12 children.We have been told she was of Indian decent possibly Cherokee,also have been told her father died or left when she was very young.Any help or info would be greatly appreciated I am at a dead end!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/751.1 Message Board Post: hi, I just found out about my grandfather aka Jimmie Cloud, who had a brother named Pat. This James of Jimmie was in the military and fathered children with Flora Creed ( son Garry born in 1946), and then with Gloria Schmit (another Garry in 1948 and George in 1950). My dad id the 2nd Garry and we just were contacted by the first Garry. Very wierd for old Dad. Some research done a few years ago by my step-mom said James went on to have 8 more kids. Do you know any info? Are these related? Thanks, Sonya Cloud [email protected]