Number 471 Jerry T. Cloud is son of Joseph F. Cloud and Nancy ? (Cox/Evans/Eanes depending on whose source you believe). See 1850 and 1860 Hopkins County, TX census. Jeremiah T. (Jerry) Cloud b. November 28, 1838, m. Nancy Ellen Hargrave May 9, 1866 b. November 17, 1899. Janet Graham Theberge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Clouds without parents > I will add it to the data. Hope you and yours are doing well. Let me know > whats happening with CFA. > > Ken > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Ellison" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 4:55 PM > Subject: RE: [CLOUD-L] Clouds without parents > > > > Hi Ken, > > Well, being one of those disconnected, I thank you for your continuing > > efforts. I would like to add info to #568 Lee Cloud, my g grandfather. > His > > name is reported to be Leander but know as Lee. He married Elizabeth > > Raines. If you have room for this information, maybe one of my unknown > > relatives will have the missing link to Lee's parents. Thanks. > > Jane > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken Cloud [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 2:31 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [CLOUD-L] Clouds without parents > > > > I have added a listing of Clouds for whom I have no parents to my data at > > www.cloudweb.org There over 700 of these folks that need to find their > > way into the Cloud Lineage. I invite anyone with an interest in Cloud > Lines > > to review this listing and if you can help with information on any of > them, > > please forward same to me. My Cloud data really depends on other > > researchers feeding me info which I make available to any and all > > researchers. You can make difference here!!! > > > > Ken Cloud > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .................................................................. > > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > > http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

I have thier names, but nothing else on them. Eliz b abt 1751 and died abt 1800, Richard b abt 1768, d abt 1831. Thats it.. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Sharp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Re: Clouds without parents > >I have added a listing of Clouds for whom I have no parents to my data at > >www.cloudweb.org There over 700 of these folks that need to find their > >way into the Cloud Lineage. > > My ancestor was Elizabeth Cloud, b.about 1765, NC, died sometime > after 1835 in Hamilton Co.IN. She was married about 1789 to > Richard BONDURANT, descendant of a Huguenot refugee, who came > to Virginia in 1700. Is Elizabeth on your list of Clouds without parents? > > Roberta > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > If you're new, please submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://mykindred.com/cloud >

I will add it to the data. Hope you and yours are doing well. Let me know whats happening with CFA. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Ellison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: RE: [CLOUD-L] Clouds without parents > Hi Ken, > Well, being one of those disconnected, I thank you for your continuing > efforts. I would like to add info to #568 Lee Cloud, my g grandfather. His > name is reported to be Leander but know as Lee. He married Elizabeth > Raines. If you have room for this information, maybe one of my unknown > relatives will have the missing link to Lee's parents. Thanks. > Jane > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Cloud [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 2:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLOUD-L] Clouds without parents > > I have added a listing of Clouds for whom I have no parents to my data at > www.cloudweb.org There over 700 of these folks that need to find their > way into the Cloud Lineage. I invite anyone with an interest in Cloud Lines > to review this listing and if you can help with information on any of them, > please forward same to me. My Cloud data really depends on other > researchers feeding me info which I make available to any and all > researchers. You can make difference here!!! > > Ken Cloud > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

>I have thier names, but nothing else on them. Eliz b abt 1751 and died abt >1800, Richard b abt 1768, d abt 1831. Thats it.. > I should have mentioned in my other message that the birthday I have for Elizabeth is about 1765 in Stokes County, North Carolina. I am still looking for the marriage record, but I have been told that she and Richard Bondurant married about 1789 in Rockingham County, NC. Roberta

>I have thier names, but nothing else on them. Eliz b abt 1751 and died abt >1800, Richard b abt 1768, d abt 1831. Thats it.. Elizabeth died after 1835 in Hamilton County, Indiana. Her name appears in that county in connection with her husband's estate in 1831 and later. I don't know where the 1800 death date came from. Roberta

Another name to add to your Clouds-without-parents list is Talitha Cloud, born ca Sep 1731, poss. Wilmington, New Castle Co., PA/DE, d. bef. 1772, married Isaac Cantrell (b. 1729 New Castle Co., PA/DE, died Jun 1806, 96th District, SC, son of Joseph Cantril/Cantrell and Catherine [Heath?]. Linda Oatman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Clouds without parents > I have added a listing of Clouds for whom I have no parents to my data at www.cloudweb.org There over 700 of these folks that need to find their way into the Cloud Lineage. I invite anyone with an interest in Cloud Lines to review this listing and if you can help with information on any of them, please forward same to me. My Cloud data really depends on other researchers feeding me info which I make available to any and all researchers. You can make difference here!!! > > Ken Cloud > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/487.1 Message Board Post: my cousin and I were working on obtaining info for a class project. We know where sara. libby and dorothy are.... why are you looking?????

Hi Ken, Well, being one of those disconnected, I thank you for your continuing efforts. I would like to add info to #568 Lee Cloud, my g grandfather. His name is reported to be Leander but know as Lee. He married Elizabeth Raines. If you have room for this information, maybe one of my unknown relatives will have the missing link to Lee's parents. Thanks. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Ken Cloud [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 2:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLOUD-L] Clouds without parents I have added a listing of Clouds for whom I have no parents to my data at www.cloudweb.org There over 700 of these folks that need to find their way into the Cloud Lineage. I invite anyone with an interest in Cloud Lines to review this listing and if you can help with information on any of them, please forward same to me. My Cloud data really depends on other researchers feeding me info which I make available to any and all researchers. You can make difference here!!! Ken Cloud ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html

>I have added a listing of Clouds for whom I have no parents to my data at >www.cloudweb.org There over 700 of these folks that need to find their >way into the Cloud Lineage. My ancestor was Elizabeth Cloud, b.about 1765, NC, died sometime after 1835 in Hamilton Co.IN. She was married about 1789 to Richard BONDURANT, descendant of a Huguenot refugee, who came to Virginia in 1700. Is Elizabeth on your list of Clouds without parents? Roberta

I have added a listing of Clouds for whom I have no parents to my data at www.cloudweb.org There over 700 of these folks that need to find their way into the Cloud Lineage. I invite anyone with an interest in Cloud Lines to review this listing and if you can help with information on any of them, please forward same to me. My Cloud data really depends on other researchers feeding me info which I make available to any and all researchers. You can make difference here!!! Ken Cloud

Looks like a never mind is appropriate here, found it several pages later in data. Thanks Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Marion "Buddy" Cloud > Looking for information on parents and lineage of Marion "buddy" Cloud, b 15 feb 1925, d 4 Dec 1980, My data indicates father as Robert Cloud and mother Callie Johnson, with great grandfather Walter Cloud. Would like to see if they can be connected to the Cloud lines back to England. > > Ken Cloud > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Check out the Cloud Family web site: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

Looking for information on parents and lineage of Marion "buddy" Cloud, b 15 feb 1925, d 4 Dec 1980, My data indicates father as Robert Cloud and mother Callie Johnson, with great grandfather Walter Cloud. Would like to see if they can be connected to the Cloud lines back to England. Ken Cloud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Graham, Hicks, Kelley, Cloud, Anderwald, Moody, Watson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/639.637.641.2.2 Message Board Post: I just sent you some information on my Myrtle M. Cloud. I have more if this turns out to be the right Myrtle Cloud. I also would love to know what information you have on Myrtle and her family.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud/Dobbs Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/639.637.641.2 Message Board Post: Im searching for the connection of Myrtle Marie Cloud, full blood Cherokee and Dobbs....does anyone know of her? Early 70s she was living in TN and possible before that lived in TX. Not sure of her bd but I am guessing late 1800s or early 1900s Thanks

Hi Folks: I have noticed several discussions on our BB about the subject matter. Here are some observations that I have made on the subject matter over the years. They may help you understand why you find some of the inaccurate census data regarding your ancestors. CENSUS MISINFORMATION PROBLEMS: Early federal and some state census records, especially those taken before 1900, often contain inaccurate and misspelled information. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is that the pay for census takers was very low and their educational achievements of the census takers were also very low. Most persons on the western frontier usually had less than a grammar school education; and a significant percentage had virtually no formal education. Another factor was that the spelling of names was not standardized to the degree it is today. Consequently, the census taker recorded the name as he (almost never she) heard it and assumed that it should be spelled. Often the persons interviewed didn't even know the correct or conventional spelling for their own names. The name spelling problem was especially great in communities and areas with a lot of new immigrants; since they often spoke little English and had strong accents from their native language. Another major reason for inaccurate or variable ages between census periods, was that the census takers pay was related to the number of persons he interviewed, in a limited time period. Consequently, like today's census takers, he didn't want to make a return visit; so he took the information from the oldest member of the family that may have been available at the time of his visit. That person could have been a senile senior or a very young teen-age housekeeper; instead of the head of the household, who might have been able to give more accurate data. There were also economic and social reasons for changing age data from census to census. Marriage was the primary reason for women, since they often misstated their age to their prospective marriage partner. Work, or military service, were often motivations for men; since laws in most states prescribed minimum ages for those activities; like they still do today. And lastly, published census records often contain transcription errors. The errors were often caused by misreading of poorly written source documents, misreading of faded or damaged source records and pressure to copy a certain number of records in specified time periods, in order to earn one's pay for the transcription work. Best wishes for a New Year of successful ancestor hunting. Tom King, Sr. Scottsdale, AZ

Interesting, Tom. And Happy New Year to you and your family!!! Cec in response to what [email protected] wrote: >Hi Folks: > >I have noticed several discussions on our BB about the subject matter. Here >are some observations that I have made on the subject matter over the years. >They may help you understand why you find some of the inaccurate census data >regarding your ancestors. > >CENSUS MISINFORMATION PROBLEMS: > >Early federal and some state census records, especially those taken before >1900, often contain inaccurate and misspelled information. There are several >reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is that the pay for census >takers was very low and their educational achievements of the census takers >were also very low. Most persons on the western frontier usually had less >than a grammar school education; and a significant percentage had virtually >no formal education. > >Another factor was that the spelling of names was not standardized to the >degree it is today. Consequently, the census taker recorded the name as he >(almost never she) heard it and assumed that it should be spelled. Often the >persons interviewed didn't even know the correct or conventional spelling for >their own names. The name spelling problem was especially great in >communities and areas with a lot of new immigrants; since they often spoke >little English and had strong accents from their native language. > >Another major reason for inaccurate or variable ages between census periods, >was that the census takers pay was related to the number of persons he >interviewed, in a limited time period. Consequently, like today's census >takers, he didn't want to make a return visit; so he took the information >from the oldest member of the family that may have been available at the time >of his visit. That person could have been a senile senior or a very young >teen-age housekeeper; instead of the head of the household, who might have >been able to give more accurate data. > >There were also economic and social reasons for changing age data from census >to census. Marriage was the primary reason for women, since they often >misstated their age to their prospective marriage partner. Work, or military >service, were often motivations for men; since laws in most states prescribed >minimum ages for those activities; like they still do today. > >And lastly, published census records often contain transcription errors. The >errors were often caused by misreading of poorly written source documents, >misreading of faded or damaged source records and pressure to copy a certain >number of records in specified time periods, in order to earn one's pay for >the transcription work. > >Best wishes for a New Year of successful ancestor hunting. > >Tom King, Sr. >Scottsdale, AZ > > > > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >. > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/760 Message Board Post: I was doing some research for the name Bailiff and it connected a little with the name CLOUD so I thought I would post the Cloud information. Cane Creek Birth and Death Records Abigail Cloud born 12-20-1788 dau of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Abner Cloud Born 5-10-1764 son of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Anne Cloud born 11-4-1773 dau of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Danial Cloud born 4-7-1783 son of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Jacob Cloud born 10-19-1767 son of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Jonathan Cloud born 1-5-1772 son of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Joseph Cloud born 3-1-1743 husband of Mary born 1743. Son of Mordecai and Abigail Cloud. Born in Chester Co. Pa. Buried at Cane Creek MM. Joseph Cloud born 11-2-1775 son of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Mary Earl Cloud born 3-22-1743 died 1-10-1789 wife of Joseph Cloud born 1743. Dau of Samuel and Ann Underwood. Born in Chester Co. Pa. Mary Cloud born 12-16-1777 dau of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Mordecai Cloud born 10-26-1780 son of Joseph and Mary Cloud. Samuel Cloud born 1-26-1766 son of Joseph and Mary Cloud.

... to my fellow descendants of Jeremiah Cloud (1784 GA - 1861 TX) and Elizabeth <unknown>, I have added a new tidbit to the "clues" page for Elizabeth: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/Eliza-clues.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/TX/Eliza-clues.htm The new entry is below: Geraldine Talley wrote January 7, 2003: What a puzzle! In Bellville, in the Succession Records, Vol. O, p 448, July Term, 1867 there is a reference from the County of Austin -- County Clerk to the Sheriff or Constable in Bellville -- " to summon F. M. Cloud and E. M. Cloud .... to render an exhibit of the condition of the Estate (of Jeremiah Cloud." Is this the same Elizabeth who married our Jeremiah, is this our Elizabeth whose last name is Hughey, is this our Elizabeth whose last name starts with an "M", is it possible that the court clerk in Bellville made a mistake? ========================== My reply to Geraldine: ... isn't this the first time we've seen initials used for Elizabeth's name? Other than that, it certainly seems these are our forebears. The mention of F.M. Cloud and the estate of Jeremiah Cloud in Austin county during the time we know the estate was being disputed would lend credence to the argument. F.M. and Elizabeth were executors of the estate, so it's reasonable to expect them to be named in any proceeding regarding it -- and it's especially logical they would be called upon to make an accounting of their management of it. ======================= Tom Cloud <[email protected]>

62/30 1978 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Laura Juanita Cloud > I have the line in my data as > > Willis Elzie Cloud > Elzie Cloud b 27 dec 1875, TX > John Clark Cloud Jr, B 22 aug 1845, TX > John Clark Cloud, b 1815 GA > Jeremiah Cloud, b 1872 Twiggs Co., GA > That dead ends there. > > Ken Cloud > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Cloud" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Laura Juanita Cloud > > > > > > Margaret, I believe this is "our" Willis Elzie Cloud (JUL 24 1915 - > > MAY 8 2002), the grandson of John Clark Cloud, Jr and a g-g-grandson > > of our Texas Jeremiah Cloud (1782 GA -1861 TX). I have no record of > > his branch, so this is new information for me. ... thanks. > > > > At 12:49 PM 1/7/2003, Margaret Lindly wrote: > > >I found this in the East Valley Tribune Newspaper from Mesa AZ > > > > > >Friday January 3, 2003 > > >Laura Juanita Cloud > > >Laura Juanita Cloud was born February 4, 1920 and died Wednesday , > January > > >1,2003in Scottsdale, AZ following a brief illness. She was 82 years old. > > >She was preceded in death by her husband , Willis Elzie "Jack" Cloud in > May > > >2002 and is servived by her daughters,Marlene (Bill) Dowling , Deanna > > >Pauline Cloud; sisters, Josephine Radulovich, Cynthia Snyder, brother > Jesse > > >Wayne Childers; 5 grandchildren and 3 great-grandchildren. Funeral > services > > >will be held 10AM Saturday, January 4, 2003 at The Chapel of Bueler > > >Mortuary, 14 W. Hulet Drive in Chandler , AZ, with visitation 1 hour > prior > > >to the service. > > > > > > > > > > > >If anyone that is related to this person and would like the copy of the > > >newspaper article please email me at: > > >[email protected] > > > > > > > > >--- Margaret Lindly > > >--- [email protected] > > >--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > Cloud Family Association sites: > > http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > >

I have the line in my data as Willis Elzie Cloud Elzie Cloud b 27 dec 1875, TX John Clark Cloud Jr, B 22 aug 1845, TX John Clark Cloud, b 1815 GA Jeremiah Cloud, b 1872 Twiggs Co., GA That dead ends there. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Laura Juanita Cloud > > Margaret, I believe this is "our" Willis Elzie Cloud (JUL 24 1915 - > MAY 8 2002), the grandson of John Clark Cloud, Jr and a g-g-grandson > of our Texas Jeremiah Cloud (1782 GA -1861 TX). I have no record of > his branch, so this is new information for me. ... thanks. > > At 12:49 PM 1/7/2003, Margaret Lindly wrote: > >I found this in the East Valley Tribune Newspaper from Mesa AZ > > > >Friday January 3, 2003 > >Laura Juanita Cloud > >Laura Juanita Cloud was born February 4, 1920 and died Wednesday , January > >1,2003in Scottsdale, AZ following a brief illness. She was 82 years old. > >She was preceded in death by her husband , Willis Elzie "Jack" Cloud in May > >2002 and is servived by her daughters,Marlene (Bill) Dowling , Deanna > >Pauline Cloud; sisters, Josephine Radulovich, Cynthia Snyder, brother Jesse > >Wayne Childers; 5 grandchildren and 3 great-grandchildren. Funeral services > >will be held 10AM Saturday, January 4, 2003 at The Chapel of Bueler > >Mortuary, 14 W. Hulet Drive in Chandler , AZ, with visitation 1 hour prior > >to the service. > > > > > > > >If anyone that is related to this person and would like the copy of the > >newspaper article please email me at: > >[email protected] > > > > > >--- Margaret Lindly > >--- [email protected] > >--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Cloud Family Association sites: > http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >