It's very interesting.. The entire McCloud, McClaud, or Mcleod differences. From what I've seen, it does look like I trace all the way back to William Cloud (1621, southrbroom, wiltshire, england). Anyway.. Is there an easy way to update cloudweb ? I've output from 'Legacy' here, http://www.globaldisarray.org/family_tree/a1.htm Which should fill in the blanks from John William Cloud, down to me. There are still quite a few cousins I need to add in there.. and dates. --- Erik Parker --- > I am descended from the same Cloud line you are. My grandfather was born in > Jackson Co. FL. in 1893. His name was William Noah Cloud. Interestingly

Rex and Ken, Looking at Ken's CLOUD web page, most of what I have on the Jackson County Clouds is already there. I have posted my Cloud line to James Edenfield's website previously and thought I'd share that link with you all. http://www.edenfield.org/dbase/dbase16/abe00005.htm#21 My e-mail address on the Edenfield site is an old one so if you want to contact me use [email protected] Hope this helps, Melanie Young >>>and by copy of this response, hope that we can prevail on her to publish to CLOUD-L her latest file of the Clouds who descend from our JAMES CLOUD [b: c 1809]. Rex Sanders

Rex Sanders wrote: > > > > Edwin, this is getting pretty long so I will chop it off and send > another that will pursue some thoughts on William [b: c 1815] > > TIL LATER REX SANDERS Hi AGAIN Edwin: LATER IS NOW According to some of my notes, your WILLIAM CLOUD was b: 5 Feb 1815 and was killed 07 July 1851 in Edgefield, SC. He left a wife and seven children, the youngest of whom was a boy, who is your ancestor. I hope I have this right. I have some unrefined thoughts and ideas but would like a little more info. 1: William and his family should be in the 1850 census in Edgefield. Please post what you have on that record incl where each was born. 2: Who, when, and where did he marry? 3: William should show as head of household in 1840. Do you have a census? Please post what you know in this forum and maybe others can add info. REX SANDERS

[email protected] wrote: > > DOES ANYONE KNOW IF JAMES CLOUD HAD ANY SIBLINGS IN EDGEFIELD SOUTH CAROLINA > .. PARTICULARLY ONE WILLIAM CLOUD ( BORN 1815 ) ? Hi Edwin: I have done considerable research on the Cloud line from Edgefield Co., SC thru Decatur Co., GA to Jackson Co., FL. The results have been posted to CLOUD-L. Because of the sheer volume, I had to divide the work into three issues in order to post it. The easiest way to view the research is to go to CLOUD-L and search the archives. In the "Query" box, type in rex and show the year as 2001. You will get 21 responses to your query. The three issues are: Filename 80 posted 11 Aug 2001 for "A"; File names 107 and 108 posted 8 Oct 2001 for "B" and "C". Let me know if you have problems bringing up the articles and I will email them to you. The next issue of CFJ is scheduled to publish the same work. In answer to your question, you will see that the JAMES CLOUD that went to Jackson Co., FL was the son of JOHN CLOUD [b: c 1782]. John had four sons, two of whom were b: in Edgefield Co., SC and two of whom were born in Decatur Co., GA. You will also see that John's father, PETER CLOUD had a large family, but I don't believe your William was in the family. Edwin, this is getting pretty long so I will chop it off and send another that will pursue some thoughts on William [b: c 1815] TIL LATER REX SANDERS

Thanks Kate.. looks like we are distant family =) I'm trying to get a little more info. One of my aunts had a nice detailed family tree of ours.. and lost it, and now refuses to admit she ever had it. So, all is lost. Anyway.. I'm still piecing mine together, and taking all of this info. By the way.. can anyone recommend a good genealogy software? --- Erik Parker --- > [email protected] composed on Feb 7, 2003: > The Ella Cloud in the SSDI (1898-1990) is my grandmother. I have just begun > my lines on this side, and haven't gotten very far at all, but perhaps I can > help a little. > > Charles Russell Cloud (1895-1980) married to Ella M. Hiltner (1898-1990). He > had at least 4 brothers that I know of: James M., William Ashley, Aubrey, > and Mahlon B., but all information is sketchy at the moment. His parents > were James Cloud and Virginia (Jennie) Cannon. No further info at moment. > My grandparents both lived most of their lives in PA, but my grandfather was > born in Castleton, Virginia, and the census records show that his family > lived in Virginia but his father may have been born in Kansas. > > I ordered the social security applications for both my grandmother/father > about two weeks ago. Hopefully, info will arrive soon. > > Kate Paparazzo > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Cloud Family Association sites: > http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

Kate I have Charles Russell and his brothers in my data. I dont have his marriage, but do have his family going way back. go to www.cloudweb.org and you will find the data there. I hope this is a help to you. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Ella Cloud > The Ella Cloud in the SSDI (1898-1990) is my grandmother. I have just begun > my lines on this side, and haven't gotten very far at all, but perhaps I can > help a little. > > Charles Russell Cloud (1895-1980) married to Ella M. Hiltner (1898-1990). He > had at least 4 brothers that I know of: James M., William Ashley, Aubrey, > and Mahlon B., but all information is sketchy at the moment. His parents > were James Cloud and Virginia (Jennie) Cannon. No further info at moment. > My grandparents both lived most of their lives in PA, but my grandfather was > born in Castleton, Virginia, and the census records show that his family > lived in Virginia but his father may have been born in Kansas. > > I ordered the social security applications for both my grandmother/father > about two weeks ago. Hopefully, info will arrive soon. > > Kate Paparazzo > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Cloud Family Association sites: > http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF JAMES CLOUD HAD ANY SIBLINGS IN EDGEFIELD SOUTH CAROLINA .. PARTICULARLY ONE WILLIAM CLOUD ( BORN 1815 ) ?

The Ella Cloud in the SSDI (1898-1990) is my grandmother. I have just begun my lines on this side, and haven't gotten very far at all, but perhaps I can help a little. Charles Russell Cloud (1895-1980) married to Ella M. Hiltner (1898-1990). He had at least 4 brothers that I know of: James M., William Ashley, Aubrey, and Mahlon B., but all information is sketchy at the moment. His parents were James Cloud and Virginia (Jennie) Cannon. No further info at moment. My grandparents both lived most of their lives in PA, but my grandfather was born in Castleton, Virginia, and the census records show that his family lived in Virginia but his father may have been born in Kansas. I ordered the social security applications for both my grandmother/father about two weeks ago. Hopefully, info will arrive soon. Kate Paparazzo

Let me jump in here and also request a copy of your line so it may be added to the data at www/cloudweb.org I would be glad to integrate your into my files. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Sanders" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Help me find My Clouds [Erik Parker] (fwd) > Melanie wrote: > > > > Erik, > > > > I am descended from the same Cloud line you are. My g---------------- > > > > Your grandfather's father was John William Cloud born 8/28/1891 in Parramore > > Jackson Co. FL. His father was John Wesley Cloud born 12/5/1859 & his > > father was James Cloud born 1809. > > > > Melanie Young > > > > Erik: Just a short note to say that I agree with Melanie Young on the > above. I have always considered her to be the authority on the CLOUDS in > Florida, and by copy of this response, hope that we can prevail on her > to publish to CLOUD-L her latest file of the Clouds who descend from our > JAMES CLOUD [b: c 1809]. Also, Erik, I had a note in my files showing > ELLA CLOUD in the SSDI. I know it's expensive [$27] but I would order > a copy of the SS-5 report as some good documentation for your files. > And, I would appreciate receiving a copy of your line for my files. > > Rex Sanders > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com > >

Melanie wrote: > > Erik, > > I am descended from the same Cloud line you are. My g---------------- > > Your grandfather's father was John William Cloud born 8/28/1891 in Parramore > Jackson Co. FL. His father was John Wesley Cloud born 12/5/1859 & his > father was James Cloud born 1809. > > Melanie Young > Erik: Just a short note to say that I agree with Melanie Young on the above. I have always considered her to be the authority on the CLOUDS in Florida, and by copy of this response, hope that we can prevail on her to publish to CLOUD-L her latest file of the Clouds who descend from our JAMES CLOUD [b: c 1809]. Also, Erik, I had a note in my files showing ELLA CLOUD in the SSDI. I know it's expensive [$27] but I would order a copy of the SS-5 report as some good documentation for your files. And, I would appreciate receiving a copy of your line for my files. Rex Sanders

> that she would make sure the family returned to it's correct name. My > grandfather was the only one of their 8 children to make the name change. > He lived in Baker Co. GA. at that time & I've been told one of my aunts > picked this particular spelling of McLeod. Well, they are just all about making it difficult for us huh? :) Thank you for all of the information, this is a tremendous help. Oh, and nice to meet you :P When I'm finished, if you'd like to my portion of the tree, let me know. I'd like to trace back a little further than this (Actually getting back to the original Mc*). But if you'd like to see where its spidered out to, John William Cloud (1891) had quite the family.. I have so many cousins running around Florida it's not even funny. I'm not sure I could get 10 miles in that state without finding a relative. Thanks again, Erik

Erik, I am descended from the same Cloud line you are. My grandfather was born in Jackson Co. FL. in 1893. His name was William Noah Cloud. Interestingly enough sometime (possibly in the 1940's) he changed his last name to McLeod. Family story indicates this was done at his mother's request while she was on her deathbed. Apparently she recovered but she did later die in 1946. She told my grandfather that she had promised her husband before his death that she would make sure the family returned to it's correct name. My grandfather was the only one of their 8 children to make the name change. He lived in Baker Co. GA. at that time & I've been told one of my aunts picked this particular spelling of McLeod. The story goes that there were brothers from South Carolina who were involved in a fight. One brother bit either the other brother's nose or ear off depending on who's telling the story. Apparently this was a capital offense at the time & the brother ran away to FL. (Akin to fleeing the country today.) This would have to have been my great great grandfather James Cloud who was born in S.C. & shows up on the 1850 Jackson Co. FL. census. Your grandfather's father was John William Cloud born 8/28/1891 in Parramore Jackson Co. FL. His father was John Wesley Cloud born 12/5/1859 & his father was James Cloud born 1809. Melanie Young > Erik Parker ([email protected]) composed today: > > > Have all of the clouds here, always been clouds? Im not really familiar with > > > my line beyond my grand parents in florida. (Charlie and Doris).. and about 10 > > > million cousins. > > > > > > But, if I heard correctly.. they were previous McCloud or McClaude or > > > something like that. > > > > > > Anyone else like that? > > > > Erik: My research in Florida has been limited to Jackson County. IF your > > grandfather, > > CHARLIE CLOUD was b: c 1914 in that county, I may be able to help. Please > > post his > > place and date of birth. > > Hi Rex, > > That's him.. 1914. Died about 10 years ago.. > > I talked to my mother a bit more about it.. It would turn out, the original > name was 'McClaude', then turned to 'McCloud' then the Mc was dropped, to > yield cloud. > > > Charlie clouds father was John Cloud.. Married to Ella Cloud. English descent, > possibly from Bluntstown, FL > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== Cloud Family Association sites: http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud .

Erik Parker wrote: > > A little more info.. > > Hugh (oldest), Ellis, Chester, and Ralph were Charlies brothers. > > Charlie was actually born in 1913 in Jackson county.. Is it possible that data > is off? > > > > > That's him.. 1914. Died about 10 years ago.. > > > > I talked to my mother a bit more about it.. It would turn out, the original > > name was 'McClaude', then turned to 'McCloud' then the Mc was dropped, to > > yield cloud. > > > > > > Charlie clouds father was John Cloud.. Married to Ella Cloud. English descent, > > possibly from Bluntstown, FL > > Erik: If your Charlie Cloud's father was a John Cloud, I would question the fit with the CLOUDS from Decatur Co., GA that I have been chasing. A couple of suggestions. In addition to your mother, I would talk to other living relatives to learn all that you can about their background. I would go to the Social Security Death Index. For starters, show the name CLOUD with a last residence of Highlands Co., FL. That will give you: Hugh D. Cloud; b: 21 Aug 1911; d: 16 Feb 2002; soc. sec. # 263-20-2984. Charlie D. Cloud; b: 9 Mar 1913; d: 09 May 1994; soc. sec # 264-10-6369 This matches exactly the info you have posted on Charlie Cloud. the 1920 Soundex for Jackson Co., FL shows Ella Cloud [29]FL, Hugh [8], Charlie [6], Chester [4], and Elbert [2] the 1910 Soundex for Jackson Co., FL shows N. H. Cloud [19] and wife Ellen [19] I hope the above helps and I wish you LUCK REX

A little more info.. Hugh (oldest), Ellis, Chester, and Ralph were Charlies brothers. Charlie was actually born in 1913 in Jackson county.. Is it possible that data is off? --- Erik Parker --- > Erik Parker ([email protected]) composed today: > > > Have all of the clouds here, always been clouds? Im not really familiar with > > > my line beyond my grand parents in florida. (Charlie and Doris).. and about 10 > > > million cousins. > > > > > > But, if I heard correctly.. they were previous McCloud or McClaude or > > > something like that. > > > > > > Anyone else like that? > > > > Erik: My research in Florida has been limited to Jackson County. IF your > > grandfather, > > CHARLIE CLOUD was b: c 1914 in that county, I may be able to help. Please > > post his > > place and date of birth. > > Hi Rex, > > That's him.. 1914. Died about 10 years ago.. > > I talked to my mother a bit more about it.. It would turn out, the original > name was 'McClaude', then turned to 'McCloud' then the Mc was dropped, to > yield cloud. > > > Charlie clouds father was John Cloud.. Married to Ella Cloud. English descent, > possibly from Bluntstown, FL > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud/ >

> > Have all of the clouds here, always been clouds? Im not really familiar with > > my line beyond my grand parents in florida. (Charlie and Doris).. and about 10 > > million cousins. > > > > But, if I heard correctly.. they were previous McCloud or McClaude or > > something like that. > > > > Anyone else like that? > > Erik: My research in Florida has been limited to Jackson County. IF your > grandfather, > CHARLIE CLOUD was b: c 1914 in that county, I may be able to help. Please > post his > place and date of birth. Hi Rex, That's him.. 1914. Died about 10 years ago.. I talked to my mother a bit more about it.. It would turn out, the original name was 'McClaude', then turned to 'McCloud' then the Mc was dropped, to yield cloud. Charlie clouds father was John Cloud.. Married to Ella Cloud. English descent, possibly from Bluntstown, FL

Erik Parker wrote: > > Have all of the clouds here, always been clouds? Im not really familiar with > my line beyond my grand parents in florida. (Charlie and Doris).. and about 10 > million cousins. > > But, if I heard correctly.. they were previous McCloud or McClaude or > something like that. > > Anyone else like that? Erik: My research in Florida has been limited to Jackson County. IF your grandfather, CHARLIE CLOUD was b: c 1914 in that county, I may be able to help. Please post his place and date of birth. You pose a very interesting question about Clouds previously named McCloud or McClaude. My research to date will not answer that question. However, I am convinced that the CLOUDS in Jackson County, FL came from Decatur County, GA in 1846 and they are descendants from the CLOUDS in England. BUT, if you go to www.familysearch.org and search the 1880 census in Florida, you will find 48 Clouds [half in Jackson Co.]; 4 Clonds in Gadsden Co.; 49 McClouds; 7 Mc Clouds; 152 McLeods and 26 Mc Leods. Notice the space after Mc in the two instances. None of the Mc's are in Jackson Co. to my knowledge. I look forward to your response and hope that I can help you. REX SANDERS

Dyellen, If you will send me your E-mail address, I will snd you a report on the Clouds. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Help me find My Clouds > I have a Sheridan Cloud, born abt 1868 in MO, Father was: Wiley Van Buren > Cloud, mother: Nancy Miller. > > I have this line back to 1682 original immigrant to America. > > see the data on www.cloudweb.org > > Ken Cloud > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:11 PM > Subject: [CLOUD-L] Help me find My Clouds > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/764 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I am the great great grand-daughter of Sheridan Cloud whose son is Lester > Bunnie Cloud. Could You please help me trace my rootage is you have any > information. I am doing a paper on my lineage for my Sociology Class at Taft > College. I would really appreciate a response my paper is due Wednesday > February 19, 2003. > > > > Thank You for your time, > > Dyellen Payne (Brown) > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Cloud Family Association sites: > http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

Wiley Van Buren Cloud and Nancy Mills were 4-29-186 in Stone County, Missouri. Hope this helps! Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Help me find My Clouds > I do not have Sheridan Cloud in my data base, but a search of the 1880 census > provided the following: > > The census location was Cass, Stone County, Missouri > Head of household: Wily Cloud, born in Tennessee about 1840. He was a > farmer. His mother and father were born in North Carolina His wife was > named Nancy who was born in Tennessee in about 1843. Her parents were also > born in Tennessee. All of their children were born in Missouri and were: > > William, born about 1865 > Sheridan, born about 1868 > Freddie, born about 1870 > Mary, born about 1874 > Cora, born about 1877 > Dora, born 1880 (2 months before the census was taken) > > I hope this is your Sheridan. If you don't get any further information. You > might consider providing some more information. Good luck on your paper. > > Lura > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Check out the Cloud Family web site: http://mykindred.com/cloud >

Ken, I have same family but I have Nancy Mills as the Mother instead of Nancy Miller. Nancy Mills was sister of my 2nd GG, Hezekiah Mills married to Rosa Wolfe. I show Wiley Van Buren Cloud died 11-14-1903 in Chctaw Nation, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. Larry Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Help me find My Clouds > I have a Sheridan Cloud, born abt 1868 in MO, Father was: Wiley Van Buren > Cloud, mother: Nancy Miller. > > I have this line back to 1682 original immigrant to America. > > see the data on www.cloudweb.org > > Ken Cloud > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:11 PM > Subject: [CLOUD-L] Help me find My Clouds > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/764 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I am the great great grand-daughter of Sheridan Cloud whose son is Lester > Bunnie Cloud. Could You please help me trace my rootage is you have any > information. I am doing a paper on my lineage for my Sociology Class at Taft > College. I would really appreciate a response my paper is due Wednesday > February 19, 2003. > > > > Thank You for your time, > > Dyellen Payne (Brown) > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Cloud Family Association sites: > http://mykindred.com/cloud ..... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

I have a Sheridan Cloud, born abt 1868 in MO, Father was: Wiley Van Buren Cloud, mother: Nancy Miller. I have this line back to 1682 original immigrant to America. see the data on www.cloudweb.org Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Help me find My Clouds > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/764 > > Message Board Post: > > I am the great great grand-daughter of Sheridan Cloud whose son is Lester Bunnie Cloud. Could You please help me trace my rootage is you have any information. I am doing a paper on my lineage for my Sociology Class at Taft College. I would really appreciate a response my paper is due Wednesday February 19, 2003. > > Thank You for your time, > Dyellen Payne (Brown) > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >