I have a Malinda Cloud, born January 6, 1804 in Boone County, Kentucky, married to Nicholas Johnson, born March 20, 1792 in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Malinda's parents are James Cloud and Sarah Ramey. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] Pioneer and Joseph Cloud > Can anyone tell me if Joseph Cloud, spouse unk, had dau Malinda married a Nicholas Johnson, and Pioneer Joseph Cloud, spouse, Jane Carpenter, had a dau married a Nichlas Johnson; could be the same Joseph. Everything appears to be a possible match, but thought I'd ask for help. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > If you're new, please submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

Can anyone tell me if Joseph Cloud, spouse unk, had dau Malinda married a Nicholas Johnson, and Pioneer Joseph Cloud, spouse, Jane Carpenter, had a dau married a Nichlas Johnson; could be the same Joseph. Everything appears to be a possible match, but thought I'd ask for help.

I recently was given my grandfather Oscar Jorgenson's memorial book and there were several names of relatives/friends that I did not recognize. Oscar died 9/30/1983 in Ashland, LA and was buried at Ramah Cemetery, Ashland, LA. He was married to Lela Mae Marquedant who died in 1998 in Leesville, LA. If you are or know of any of these people please contact me at mesmith1@lsu.edu Rainel Cloud Pamela Cloud Welin Cloud M.L. Cloud Bessie (Marquedant) Coffey (My grandmother Lela's sister) Annie Belle Coffey Tommice W. Coffey Judy Erin Coffey John Shelton Coffey Robert & Clopha Coffey Tommy & Ella Mae Warren Gertrude Pardue Addie Rushing Thank you. Miriam Baton Rouge, LA Researching: Cloud, Jorgenson, Marquedant, Coffey, Warren, Pardue, Rushing, Gregerson, Smith, Jorden, etc....

That must have surprised you to see your name up there...it would have surprised me. How do you fit into the Cloud family? Maybe we are cousins.... Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <MMorrow362@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] Mary Frances CLOUD GIBSON > This is too weird - my name is Mary Frances Cloud Morrow born 1929!!!! It was > a shock to see my exact name used in the 1800's. Mary C. Morrow > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com > >

This is too weird - my name is Mary Frances Cloud Morrow born 1929!!!! It was a shock to see my exact name used in the 1800's. Mary C. Morrow

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/419.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi David, If I am right Nancy Hatfield and Harry Bissell are my Great Grandparents. My Grandfather was Albert Arthur Bissell, who was married to his 2nd wife Ruth Wilcox-Bissell. My grandfather Albert was born 08/16/1906 and died 10/01/1976.He was born in Iowa, and died in Shady Cove, Or. He had 6 children ,4 boys, 2 girls. His oldest son was William Albert Bissell (my father) was born 08/07/1930 from his 1st marriage to Opal Damrel-Bissell(short lived marriage) His oldest son from Ruth is Charles (still living I think)in Or. If this sounds right to you, that means we are related though Nancy Hatfield ?(my great grandmother) Please e-mail me back either way.I have been lost since I never thought to do this when my family was alive, There all gone! I hope you can help! Thanks Debbie Bissell P.S. If my grandfather is Harry, could I see his picture? I have a picture of Albert and Ruth.

I show that James Sturdivant, father of William died after 1850. His wife came to Hamilton Co., IN with her son and new wife.Carolyn Bowers Jackson. between 1850-1860 because she shows up on census of 1860 in Hamilton Co., IN I show that Ruth Cloud died between 1842-1850 in Surry or Stokes Co., NC. Her last child was born July 26, 1842, and she died after that. I show that William and Carolyn Bowers Jackson had their first child in Surry Co., NC The next child was born in 1854 Hamilton Co., IN. I have not found any information on where Ruth Cloud died or even where James Sturdivant is buried. I hope this information helps. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogan" <hogahl@starpower.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] searching for cloud of indpls. in. > Joyce -- do you have approximate dates for Ruth Cloud and the NC county she > was associated with? Harry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Sturdivant" <jsturd@tds.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:58 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] searching for cloud of indpls. in. > > > > Do you have dates. I am trying to locate a Ruth Cloud that had married > > William Sturdivant in North Carolina. She died either here in Indiana or > in > > North Carolina. William settled around Sheridan, IN which is very close > to > > Indianapolis. Does any of this information match yours. > > Joyce > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <billorunyan@hotmail.com> > > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:32 PM > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://mykindred.com/cloud >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Graham, Cloud, Kelley, Hicks, Moody, and others Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/804.1 Message Board Post: This is my Cloud family. I would love to share information with you. What do you know about this family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/804 Message Board Post: App. No. 39579 September 14, 1907 Mrs. W. S. Gibson 107 First St. North Vicksburg, Miss. (Address was on First North St. but the local post office got it to her anyway.) Madam: Receipt is acknowledged of your Eastern Cherokee Application No. 39579, which is found to be incomplete. As the application you have forwarded is written with a lead pencil and this Office prefers that the same be written in ink, there is enclosed herewith a blank which you are requested to fill out with ink and return to this office without delay, observing the following instructions: (1) In answer to question No. 8, give the name and age of your husband. (The original asked "Name of wife or husband" and she put her and her husand's name) (2) In answer to question No. 9, state if he belongs to any tribe of indians, and if so, to what tribe. (She entered Cherokee) (3) In answer to question 11, give the full name of your father and of your mother. (She gave father: Cloud, Mother; Riley) (4) Sign and swear to this application before a Notary Public or other proper officer, sicning your own full name not initials. (5) Have the supplementary affidavit signed and sworn to by two witnesses. The other blanks you will be able to fill out without any instructions. Please give this matter prompt attention and return the application to this office without delay. Very Respectfully Special Commissioner ===================================================================================================== Special Commissioner of the Court of Claims 601 Ouray Building, Washington D. C. Sir: I hereby make application for such share as may be due me of the fund appropriated by the Act of Congress, approved June 30, 1906, in accordance with the decrees of the Court of Claims of May 18,1905, and May 28, 1906, in favor of the Eastern Cherokees. The evidence of identity is herewith subjoined. Note: Answers to all questions should be short but complete, if you cannot answer, so state. 1 State full name – English name: Mary Francis CLOUD GIBSON Indian name: Mary Francis CLOUD 2 Residence and post office: 107 First North St. 3 County: Warren Co. 4 State Mississippi 5 How old are you? 44 Born 1863 6 Where were you born? Texas 7 Are you married? Yes 8 Name and age of husband or wife Winfield Scott GIBSON 9 To what tribe of Indians does he or she belong? Cherokee 10 Name all your children who were living on May 28, 1906, giving their ages: NAME AGE BORN (1) Scottice GIBSON 24 1883 (2) Kelly GIBSON 18 1889 (3)Bedford GIBSON 18 1889 (4) Fannie GIBSON 14 1892 (5) Jake GIBSON 11 1895 (6) Tulley GIBSON 9 1897 (7) (Randall GIBSON 20 was on the first app in August missing on this October App) 11 Give names of your father and mother, and your mother’s name before marriage: (Blank) Father English Name: Frank CLOUD Indian Name: (Blank) Mother English Name: Victoria CLOUD Indian Name: (Blank) Maiden Name: Victoria CLOUD 12 Where were they born? Father: Texas Mother: Texas 13 Where did they reside in 1851 if living at that time? Father: Texas Mother: Texas 14 Date of death of your father and mother: Father: 1869 Mother: 1881 15 Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians: dont know. 16 Name all your brothers and sisters, giving ages, and residence if possible: NAME BORN DIED (1)Jake CLOUD 42 Texas Indian Territory (2)Belle CLOUD 40 Texas Texas (3)George CLOUD 38 Texas Indian Territory 17 State English and Indian names of your grandparents on both father’s and mother’s side, if possible: Father’s Side Mother’s Side Joe CLOUD Jack RILEY Nancy COX Sarah RILEY 18 Where were they born? Tennessee. she was born Mississippi (A line indicates this was father's parents. Mother's parents were deceased when mother was 13) 19 Where did they live in 1851, if living at that time? Texas 20 Give names of all their children, and residence, if possible. (1) Jerry CLOUD (2) Jake CLOUD (3) Mary CLOUD (4) Eliza CLOUD (5) Frank CLOUD (Her Father) (6) Emily CLOUD 21 Have you ever been enrolled for money, annuities, land or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians: Never was.. 22 To assist in identification, claimant should give the full English and Indian names, if possible, of their parents and grandparents back to 1835: the indian came from grand mother side. Mancy CLOUD, Indian name Nancy CLOUD REMARKS (under this head the applicant may give any additional facts which will assist in proving his claim.) (BLANK) I solemnly swear that the foregoing statements made by me are true to the best of my knowledge and belief. (signature) Mary Francis CLOUD GIBSON Subscribed and sworn to before me the 30 day of September 1907 Wm WAGGONEER Notary Public My commission expires Mar 7th 1908 AFFIDAVIT (The following affidavit must be sworn to by two or more witnesses who are well acquainted with the applicant.) Personally appeared before me Jno Alfred GUIDER and B S GUIDER who, being duly sworn. On oath depose and say that they are well acquainted with Mary Frances CLOUD GIBSON who makes the foregoing application and statements, and have known her for 25 years and 25 years’ respectively, and know him to be the identical person she represents herself to be, and that the statements made by her are true to the best of their knowledge and belief, and they have no interest whatever in this claim. Witnesses to mark Signatures of witnesses (Blank) Jno Alfred GUIDER (Blank) B S GUIDER Subscribed and sworn to before me this 30 day of September 1907. Wm WAGGONEER Notary Public My commission expires Mar 7th 1908 NOTE: Affidavits should be made, whenever practicable, before a notary public, or clerk of the court, if sworn to before an Indian Agent or disbursing Agent of the Indian service, it need not be executed before a notary, etc.

Joyce -- do you have approximate dates for Ruth Cloud and the NC county she was associated with? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sturdivant" <jsturd@tds.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD-L] searching for cloud of indpls. in. > Do you have dates. I am trying to locate a Ruth Cloud that had married > William Sturdivant in North Carolina. She died either here in Indiana or in > North Carolina. William settled around Sheridan, IN which is very close to > Indianapolis. Does any of this information match yours. > Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <billorunyan@hotmail.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:32 PM >

Do you have dates. I am trying to locate a Ruth Cloud that had married William Sturdivant in North Carolina. She died either here in Indiana or in North Carolina. William settled around Sheridan, IN which is very close to Indianapolis. Does any of this information match yours. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <billorunyan@hotmail.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:32 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] searching for cloud of indpls. in. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: cloud > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/803 > > Message Board Post: > > looking for information or where abouts of patriccia,barbara,or william there father&mother were otis&velva runion cloud of indpls. in. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Check out the Cloud Family web site: http://mykindred.com/cloud/ >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/803 Message Board Post: looking for information or where abouts of patriccia,barbara,or william there father&mother were otis&velva runion cloud of indpls. in.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/802.1 Message Board Post: I have a Rachel Cloud who married 1st James W. Ridge in Jackson County, AL in in 1859. James was killed in 1862 during the Civil War. Rachel married 2nd James Newton Hill in Jackson County, AL in 1867. James and Rachel migrated to Carroll County, AR soon after their marriage. Rachel did not have a brother named Oscar.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/802 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on a Rachel Cloud married to James n. Hill. Rachel had a brother Oscar in Daries County Indiana.

>From the 1880 census of Newton Co MO, it appears your Maggie L. CLOUD was d/o of Alexander Cabbage CLOUD & Martha McCORD. Maggie is listed as 4 years old in that census. Alexander Cabbage CLOUD was s/o Samuel CLOUD Jr. & Elizabeth CABBAGE who were married in Grainger Co TN 9 Apr 1821. Martha was d/o William McCORD & Lottie BING. Alexander Cabbage CLOUD was b 8 May 1827 near Jacksboro TN; d 25 Apr 1894 in Newton Co MO. He & Martha were married in Clarksville AR according to the Newton Co MO Goodspeed history. Hope this might help if your Maggie was b ca 1876. Imogene Bennett Springfield, MO Imogene.Bennett@att.net

I dont have anything on Maggie, but did note that my mother Margueriette Cressler Cloud married second a Cope and in working that line noted in 1700s a Grace Cloud married a Cope. So the Cloud and Cope line cross a couple of time. Wish I could help you with Maggie. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: <cope59@direcway.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: [CLOUD-L] MAGGIE L. CLOUD > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/801 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for info on Maggie L. Cloud. from Mo. Neosho > Father Alexander Cloud > Mother Elizabeth Cabbage > dose anyone know who she married. > Please let me know, cope59@direcway.com > Thanks Sandra > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/801 Message Board Post: Looking for info on Maggie L. Cloud. from Mo. Neosho Father Alexander Cloud Mother Elizabeth Cabbage dose anyone know who she married. Please let me know, cope59@direcway.com Thanks Sandra

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wellborn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/267.415.422.2 Message Board Post: I am in contact with Myrtle Tapp Wellborn's father's sister's granddaughter, and I can ask her if she has heard any rumors of Indian blood in her family line as she descends directly from both of Myrtle's paternal grandparents while I only descend from Myrtle's paternal grandmother. The only problem is that the lady with whom I am in contact has not looked at any of her genealogical records in three years; however, she should know from memory whether her bloodline of the surname Tapp descends from Native American Indian blood. I will ask her of her understanding if their is any Indian blood in her Tapp bloodline and get back with you. Respectfully, Mike Smith michael8689@sbcglobal.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wellborn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/267.415.422.1 Message Board Post: You mention that Myrtle Tapp Wellborn was a Native American Indian. She is listed as "white" in the 1900 U.S. Census while living with her grandmother, my great great grandmother, Sarah Tapp Morris whose maiden name was most likely Rippy, or possible Ezell. My great great grandmother was not a Native American Indian; however, I would be interested if any Indian blood is in the family line. Myrtle Tapp Wellborn's father was Willaim Cicero Tapp, of Georgia and Texas, whose father was Eber {Smith?} Tapp, of Georgia, with Eber Tapp's father being Joshua Tapp who possibly was from Virginia. Some people with the Tapp surname came from England while it is speculated that some people with the Tapp surname living in Virginia had some Native American Indian blood; however, from Joshua Tapp, born, as I recall, in the late 1790s, his son Eber Tapp born in the 1830s, and grandson William Cicero Tapp born in 1859 are all listed as "White" in various U.S. Census reports. It is unknow! n to me whom is the mother of Myrtle (Viola?) Tapp Wellborn, born in 1886, as Myrtle's father William Cicero Tapp died very young sometime between 1886 to 1900. Unfortunately, as Myrtle's mother is unknown to me and the fact that the 1890 U.S. census does not exist, a 20 year gap exists from 1880 to 1900 to try to figure out what happened to Myrtle's father and whom was Myrtle's mother who may have also died prior to 1900 as Myrtle was living with my great great grandparents with the census listing Myrtle as a granddaughter. My Morris descendants are white as white can be; however, as Eber Tapp died in the Civil War which resulted in Sarah Tapp marrying into my Morris blood line, I have no knowledge if Myrtle's great grandfather had any Indian blood as I did not descend from him. So, if Myrtle Tapp Wellborn had any Indian blood, which is a popular theory among many Tapp families, then Myrtle, born in 1886 would have been at least three generations removed from any signifi! cant Indian blood assuming almost assuredly that Myrtle's mother is unknown to me. I am sure that the Indian speculation comes from some Tapp family lines coming out of Virginia who could possibly have had Indian blood dating back to the 1700s. I state this as Myrtle's mother is unknown to me, but many Tapp families from Virginia speculate that they may be descended from Native American Indians. So, the Tapp blood line is where the Indian speculation comes from, but Myrtle would be at the very most 1/4th, and most likely, if she does have Indian blood, is much more likely at the most 1/8th or 1/16th. I am still researching the Tapp family including trying to figure out whom was Myrtle's mother and also going back to the 1700s Virginia Tapp families. Now, there were Tapp families who lived in Virginia who originated from England which would mean that Myrtle had no Indian blood. I am in constant touch with a Tapp descendant from a different Virginia Tapp bloodline who is! trying to prove her possible small amount of Indian ancestory through DNA tests; however, I would imagine it would be at least a year if ever for her to conclude from the DNA tests if her totally different Tapp bloodline has any Native American Indian blood. I will update this post as I find out more information. If you have any information on Myrtle Wellborn, it would be appreciated. Mike Smith michael8689@sbcglobal.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Short, Clouds Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/800 Message Board Post: Note: I have a copy of this page of the marriage register for only one set of the names on it. However, I hated to see the rest of the information “go to waste,” so I’m posting it out here in the event that it may prove useful to someone else. Marriage Register, New Castle county, Delaware 1891-page 64 Register Entry #: 18083 Groom: Daniel M. Short Age: 29 Nation/state: Delaware Residence: Kent Co. Occupation: Farmer Bride: Emma Clouds Age: 28 Nation/state: Delaware Residence: Kent Co. Groom’s parents: Jno. H. & Mary L. Short Bride’s parents: David M. & Mary C. Clouds Date of marriage: Mar. 11 ‘91 Person solemnizing marriage: R. K. Stephenson Date of registration: Mar. 27 ‘91