excuse my ignorance... is that a total price? $169.00 for all 25 samples, or is it $169.00 per submission? John Cloud "Indiana Clouds" --- TomKingSr@aol.com wrote: > Hi Ken Cloud: > > Thanks very much for letting me know that you would > possibly be interested in > participating in establishing a CLOUD line DNA > group. > > The bottom price group rate is about $100 for a 12 > marker analysis from the > Family Tree DNA organization. The more markers one > pays for, increases the > possibilities of a match further back in one's > family line. > > As I recall, the minimum number of markers that > are available is 12 and > costs $100.00 at the group rate. I think the maximum > number of markers available > is 37. The group rate for a 25 marker analysis is > $169.00; and that is what I > choose for my KING family DNA Analysis. > > Yes, Ken, the tests are somewhat expensive; but if > enough persons participate > in the DNA tests, we can prove without a doubt, that > most CLOUD lines are > related to William CLOUD that migrated to the USA > from England to the Wm. Penn > Colony during the early 1700's. We might be able to > go even further back in time > with the DNA results. > > We would only need four more CLOUD line males to > sign up to secure group rate > pricing for DNA testing from the Family Tree DNA > organization. Hopefully, we > can find a few more CLOUD descendants that might be > interested in the DNA > testing; and perhaps one of them would be willing to > be the group administrator. I > would not have the time available to serve as such; > due to my wife's health > situation and my age related health problems. > > Ideally, we should try to get someone from each > major CLOUD group that > migrated south or west from PA. For example, > descendants that went south and west to > AL, SC, TN, GA, MS, and TX; plus a central group or > two that migrated > westward to Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, CA and Oregon. > Maybe one from the New England > area where I found a line of Cloud's while > researching our CLOUD line. I am from > the SC and AL line. > > I hope to be able to attend the upcoming July Cloud > Family Gathering in > Knoxville, TN. Maybe we can find someone in > attendance that would like to use DNA > testing to help extend his or her ancestral CLOUD > line, or to confirm what has > already been discovered, or to determine if they > were adopted somewhere along > the line; or have other ancestral background like > Jewish, American Indian or > African heritage. > > I am repeating your message below so others who > didn't read it initially, may > have a second opportunity to do so now. > > Thanks again. Tom King, Sr. Sterling, VA. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > (X-Message: #2) Copy from Digest List. > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 11:52:22 -0400 > From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000701c447f0$6dab4300$6501a8c0@ken> > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Re: CLOUD-D Digest V04 #46 RE > DNA Testing > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Depending on the cost, I would be interested in > participating. I come from > the northern Clouds, Ind, Ohio; etc. > > Ken Cloud > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TomKingSr@aol.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:47 AM > Subject: [CLOUD] Re: CLOUD-D Digest V04 #46 RE DNA > Testing > > In a message dated 6/1/2004 9:00:36 AM Central > Daylight Time, > CLOUD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > http://mykindred.com/dna/ > > Thanks Tom for referring me to the above link. It > has what appears to be an > excellent listing of sources for information on DNA > testing and research > related to genealogy. I printed the list and will > try to explore several of your > references as I move forward with my plan to use the > Family Tree DNA organization > to help me with research on my KING line, where I > have reached a dead-end. > > It would be great if we could get six people from > our CLOUD line to > participate in a DNA examination of the various > branches of our Cloud line. > > Tom King, Sr. > Sterling, VA. > -------------------------End-------------- > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

I would also be interested depending on cost. I am also from the Indiana, Michigan, and North Dakota Clouds. Barbara C2Ranches C2Ranches@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Re: CLOUD-D Digest V04 #46 RE DNA Testing > Depending on the cost, I would be interested in participating. I come > from > the northern Clouds, Ind, Ohio;, etc. > > Ken Cloud > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TomKingSr@aol.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:47 AM > Subject: [CLOUD] Re: CLOUD-D Digest V04 #46 RE DNA Testing > > > > In a message dated 6/1/2004 9:00:36 AM Central Daylight Time, > > CLOUD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > http://mykindred.com/dna/ > > > > Thanks Tom for referring me to the above link. It has what appears to be > an > > excellent listing of sources for information on DNA testing and research > > related to genealogy. I printed the list and will try to explore several > of your > > references as I move forward with my plan to use the Family Tree DNA > organization > > to help me with research on my KING line, where I have reached a > > dead-end. > It > > would be great if we could get six people from our CLOUD line to > participate > > in a DNA examination of the various branches of our Cloud line. > > > > Tom King, Sr. > > Sterling, VA. > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .................................................................. > > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > > Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/836 Message Board Post: Correct information about place of death for Elisha Cloud is Brazos Co., Texas (not Madison Co.). Probation records, which I have a copy of, state that the died on March 11, 1871 in Brazos Co., Texas, as attested to by his son William Wilson Cloud, executor of his estate (and my great grandfather)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Yep looks correct. (I am not the best speller lol) See my parents in there lol

There is one Thomas Cloud born about 1872 in Indiana in the 1880 census. The information is as follows: Jefferson, Tipton, IN, page 26, taken the 14th of June John Cloud, age 38, b: IN, parents b: IN Malinda, wife, age 36: b: IN, parents b: Unknown Louis A, son, age 9, b: IN Thomas C., son, age 8, b: IN Ditton or Dillon M., son, age 6, diptheria, b:IN Lilly, daughter, age 4, b: IN Effie, daughter, age 2, b: IN That's all I can do right now.

Hi...I queried 1910 census..I think I found your family in Indiana: Prairie Twp, Warren, IN, p. 236B Thomas Cloud, age, 37, b:IN, parents b: IN, laboreron railroad Mary Etta, wife, age 23, b:IN, parents b: IN Roy, son, age 5 b: IN, parents b: IN Blanche, daughter, b: IL, parents b: IN Gilbert, son, 11 months, b: IL, parents b: IN Census was taken 28 April 1910...which means Gilbert was born in about May of 1909. There was an Albert Cloud in Hoopeston, Vermilion, IL...but his parents were born in WV...otherwise, thought he might be a brother to your Thomas. Good luck in search. Lura

Sonja Bedwell smbedwell@aol.com Hi Sonja: Thanks very much for posting information regarding Internet articles and sources on DNA research related to your Wells family line. The Wall Street Journal articles were especially interesting. Others may read them at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/dnaproje/dnaproje.html Sonja, I found the information to be most informative as regards DNA Genealogical Research. Thanks very much for posting it. Tom King, Sr. Sterling, VA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2.1 Message Board Post: This is what I have: Descendants of William M. Cloud 1 William M. Cloud b: 20 Feb 1862 d: 22 Mar 1946 in , Harlan, KY . +Mary Jane Shoemaker b: 01 Oct 1870 m: 15 Aug 1891 in , Harlan, KY d: 11 Nov 1941 2 Henry F. Cloud b: 30 Apr 1893 in , , KY d: 05 Sep 1968 in Pennington Gap, Lee, VA ... +Sybil Sweester . 3 Evelyn Cloud b: 15 Jun 1917 d: 05 May 2003 ..... +Bryant . 3 Eileen Rebecca Cloud b: 09 Sep 1918 ..... +Franklin . 3 Vida Cloud b: 01 Jun 1920 ..... +Holman . *2nd Husband of Vida Cloud: ..... +Hartsock . 3 Redella Cloud b: 31 Jan 1925 d: 08 Jan 1993 ..... +Lewis . *2nd Husband of Redella Cloud: ..... +Smith . *3rd Husband of Redella Cloud: ..... +Galloway . 3 Sorophrena Reese Cloud b: 06 May 1926 ..... +Deaton . 3 Vance Willowby Cloud b: 24 May 1930 d: 23 Jan 1994 . 3 Rex David Cloud b: 15 Oct 1934 ..... +Jeanette Sturgill m: 24 Dec 1965 2 Greenberry (N.M.I.) Cloud b: 04 Feb 1895 in , Harlan, KY d: 22 Nov 1960 in , , MI ... +Bertha Pressley Middleton b: 31 Oct 1904 d: 30 Oct 1993 in , , MI . 3 Orville Glenn Cloud . 3 Harold Bertram Cloud . 3 Robert Bertram Cloud . 3 Jenevia Cloud . 3 O. Lynn Cloud . 3 Dochia Cloud . 3 Viola Cloud . 3 Dolie Cloud . 3 Dorothy Gladys Cloud . 3 James Arnold Cloud b: 14 Jan 1934 in Portsmouth, Scioto, OH ..... +Diane Washburn b: 23 Mar 1938 2 Unis Beatrice Cloud b: 13 Mar 1898 d: 14 Sep 1904 2 Louisa M. Cloud b: 23 Aug 1900 in , , KY d: 08 Jan 1986 ... +Frank Russell . 3 James Russell 2 Laura Bell Cloud b: 03 Nov 1904 in , , KY ... +Howard Middleton . 3 Curtis Middleton . 3 Denver Middleton . 3 Beatrice Middleton 2 Sarepta Cloud b: 04 Jan 1906 in , , KY d: 25 Jul 1975 ... +Hobart Short . 3 Lucy Short ..... +Ray Parsons . 3 Reva Short . 3 Raymond Short ..... +Sylvia 2 Alice Louise Cloud b: 15 Nov 1907 in , , KY d: 1978 ... +Floyd Webb . 3 William Franklin Webb ..... +Mabel Barnes . 3 Betty Ray Webb ..... +Joe Robert Eldridge 2 John Evan Cloud b: 23 Jul 1910 in , , KY d: 18 Aug 1979 in , , KY ... +Virgie Woodward 2 Bessie Cloud b: 01 Oct 1912 in , , KY d: 2000 ... +Willie Madden b: 06 Jan 1917 d: Sep 1981

Depending on the cost, I would be interested in participating. I come from the northern Clouds, Ind, Ohio;, etc. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: <TomKingSr@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: CLOUD-D Digest V04 #46 RE DNA Testing > In a message dated 6/1/2004 9:00:36 AM Central Daylight Time, > CLOUD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > http://mykindred.com/dna/ > > Thanks Tom for referring me to the above link. It has what appears to be an > excellent listing of sources for information on DNA testing and research > related to genealogy. I printed the list and will try to explore several of your > references as I move forward with my plan to use the Family Tree DNA organization > to help me with research on my KING line, where I have reached a dead-end. It > would be great if we could get six people from our CLOUD line to participate > in a DNA examination of the various branches of our Cloud line. > > Tom King, Sr. > Sterling, VA. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

In a message dated 6/1/2004 9:00:36 AM Central Daylight Time, CLOUD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: http://mykindred.com/dna/ Thanks Tom for referring me to the above link. It has what appears to be an excellent listing of sources for information on DNA testing and research related to genealogy. I printed the list and will try to explore several of your references as I move forward with my plan to use the Family Tree DNA organization to help me with research on my KING line, where I have reached a dead-end. It would be great if we could get six people from our CLOUD line to participate in a DNA examination of the various branches of our Cloud line. Tom King, Sr. Sterling, VA.

I have him born in 1862, died abt 1929. Ken Cloud www.cloudweb.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <skayc1@yahoo.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Cloud/Shoemaker > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Forgot to mention Mary Jane Shoemaker married a William Steven Cloud. he died in 1862 , sooo I think the M is wrong. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Check out the Cloud Family mirror site: http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

Sharon, I am administrator for the CLOUD bulletin board where you posted this. I write because I'm not sure you've considered all the possible consequences of your posting such personal information about living people. I have the ability to edit or delete your post from the bulletin board, should you wish some of it removed. (but I cannot call it back from the email forum it was sent to). If you would like me to explain more of this to you -- i.e. why I wonder if you really want all of that information on the bulletin board, write me back. sincerely, Tom Cloud At 03:04 PM 5/31/2004, you wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Cloud >Classification: Birth > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480 > >Message Board Post: > >Mary Jane Shoemaker was my Great-Grandmother. >My Grandfather Henry F. Cloud was one of her children. he married Sybil Sweester, and they had 8 children. Evelyn, Eileen, Vida, Sofee(not sure if I have my aunts name spelled correctly), Redella, Vance, Rex David(my Dad) , and Oleta. >Rex David Cloud Married Jeanette Cloud in 1965 and they have 4 children Sharon Kay b.Jan 22 1966(me), Richard David b.June 10 1967, Rebecah(Becky) b Oct 14 1970, and Callie b 1978. Richard wife's name is Jennifer , they have two children Mina Marie bJan 24 2000, and Amila(Amy) b jan 9 2002. >Becky married Howard Saffer, and they have 3 children >Stephanie b dec 24 1987, Amanda b feb 3 1989, Katie b Aug 9 1992. > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.2 Message Board Post: Forgot to mention Mary Jane Shoemaker married a William Steven Cloud. he died in 1862 , sooo I think the M is wrong.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/835 Message Board Post: I had some luck and found out there are errors in my previous post. Blanche May Cloud's mother's name was Ettie Beam, not Sarah. They lived in Hoopeston, IL. Blanche was probably born there, or somewhere nearby. Her siblings were Zanard, Opal, Donald, Gilbert, and Roy. Still don't know where the parents, Thomas & Ettie came from or what their parents names were. Any info would be appreciated.

I corrected one other link on the DNA page at mykindred.com. It's at the bottom and lists DNA surname projects registered with rootsweb. http://www.mykindred.com/dna/ Tom Cloud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480.1 Message Board Post: oops made a mistake. Rex David Cloud Married Jeanette Sturgile sorry forgot to use my mom's maiden name in above post .

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Birth Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/477.480 Message Board Post: Mary Jane Shoemaker was my Great-Grandmother. My Grandfather Henry F. Cloud was one of her children. he married Sybil Sweester, and they had 8 children. Evelyn, Eileen, Vida, Sofee(not sure if I have my aunts name spelled correctly), Redella, Vance, Rex David(my Dad) , and Oleta. Rex David Cloud Married Jeanette Cloud in 1965 and they have 4 children Sharon Kay b.Jan 22 1966(me), Richard David b.June 10 1967, Rebecah(Becky) b Oct 14 1970, and Callie b 1978. Richard wife's name is Jennifer , they have two children Mina Marie bJan 24 2000, and Amila(Amy) b jan 9 2002. Becky married Howard Saffer, and they have 3 children Stephanie b dec 24 1987, Amanda b feb 3 1989, Katie b Aug 9 1992.

At 01:14 AM 5/30/2004, you wrote: >Hi Folks: > >Thanks for your responses to my earlier request for information regarding >Genealogical DNA testing. Sorry, I don't have time available to write each of you >a personal "thank you note." Taking care of my ailing wife uses up most of my >days and parts of my nights. She also doesn't like for me to work on my >computer. > >However, I found some information on the Internet regarding Genealogical DNA >testing that may be of interest to other users of this bulletin board. The >Internet address information is printed below: > >http://www.ftdna.com/description.html#YDNA25 - List of the various types of >Genealogical DNA testing that are available from one of the DNA testing >organizations. Some of the tests are very complex. But they can determine if you >have American Indian, or African or Jewish ancestors in your family tree; as well >as recent and distant relatives; depending on how much you wish to spend for >their services. The more complex tests are much more expensive than the >basic genealogical tests. See the Internet address below for cost data. > >http://www.ftdna.com/products.html - List of different types of DNA tests and >related costs offered by the DNA organization. Information that I have >received from past DNA users, indicates that recognized family genealogical >associations may receive discount pricing. > >Tom King, Sr. >Sterling, VA Tom, et al ... I looked at the SHIRLEY surname DNA project and, as with all of their web site, it is extremely well done -- I am envious and wish I had the talent to do our pages as well as they have theirs. WRT links regarding DNA, I put together some links long ago when I first suggested the CLOUD list participate. I've just verified and corrected those links. They can be found at: http://mykindred.com/dna/ sincerely, Tom Cloud

So sorry Tom about your wife. My husband Chuck has Alzheimer disease also. Our son lives in Knoxville , but we will not make the trip either. It is better to keep them in their comfort zone so they do not become confused. > [Original Message] > From: Tom Cloud <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/28/04 2:50:29 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] DNA Testing Results on King, Cloud and otherfamily lines. > > > At 10:52 AM 5/27/2004, you wrote: > >Hi Folks: > > > >I am somewhat interested in submitting my DNA to a lab that is doing > >genealogical matching. I have read feedback submitted to the Family Tree DNA > >organization in Houston, TX, at http://www.ftdna.com/testimonials_home.html . > > > >Their postings sound great. However, before deciding to undergo the testing, > >I would like to hear from others that may have used their services, or like > >services from other Genealogical DNA analysis organizations. > > > >Please send your comments to: tomkingsr@aol.com > > > >Thanks very much. > > > >Tom King, Sr. > >Sterling, VA > >Previously a resident of AZ, CA, TX, LA, TN and AL during my 84 years, so far > >here on earth. > > > Tom, > > I proposed a DNA project for our group and had several positive > replies, but haven't felt in a position to manage such an > undertaking for the present. (Anyone else interested in > setting up and managing a DNA project for the Cloud family?) > > Were I to do this, I would use the Family Tree DNA group > out of Houston. They have a distinct financial incentive > to do this as a group -- and, of course, that's the only > really reasonable way to do it. > > I am on numerous other groups which are doing the DNA projects, > and all of them are using the FTDNA group from Houston. > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/834 Message Board Post: Has anyone come across this name? Believe she was born in Indiana. Her birthdate was 18 Aug 1907. Father Thomas Cloud. Mother may have been named Sarah. Siblings: Ronald, Opal, Maynard, plus. Don't know what town she was born in. Blanche married Hobart Jones. I believe his family was from Indiana & Kentucky. Trying to find the correct names of the parents and the location of Blanche's birth. Would be interested in any information at all.