Recently I have been working a couple of Cloud lines, both going back to them being the son of John Cloud, b 1739 NC, d 1840 LA and his wife Elizabeth Lacy. In my data I have one line that goes back to (1)Jeremiah b 1789 KY and wife Lucinda. This Jeremiah is listed as the son of John and Elizabeth. Also in my data I have a line that goes back to (2)Jeremiah b 1784 GA and his wife Elizabeth. Jeremiah is as far back as this line goes. The folks that have sent me data concerning their lines indicate that their line with (2) Jeremiah shows him to be the son of John and Elizabeth. Try as I may I cannot seem to make the (2) Jeremiah line connect with John and Elizabeth Lacy Cloud. I have the data for both line here on the web site. If anyone can add details needed to figure this out I would very much appreciate your input. To both line go to www.cloudweb.org and click on the Jeremiah Question link. I hope we can find our way thru this. Ken Cloud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/846 Message Board Post: Does anyone have any connections to Aaron Cloud of Griffin, Georgia or Spaulding County, Georgia? I find him on the 1860 Spalding Co., Georgia census. At that time, he had just purchased a large amount of land in central Florida and moved there, almost immediately after the 1860 census was taken. On the 1860 GA census, he is found with his wife, Jane E. (who is 28 yrs. old) and a daughter, Annie Eliza, who is 6 years old. They are all found on the Orange County, (now Sanford, in Seminole County), Florida census for 1870 and 1880. In 1880, Aaron Cloud is listed as being 79 yrs. old, (born circa 1801 in GA) & his wife, Jane E. is now giving her age as 60 years old. By the 1885 Florida State census, he apparently has passed away. (Besides being listed on the 1860 Georgia Census and also the Georgia (Spalding Co.) Slave schedule, he is also listed on the 1860 Orange Co., Florida, Slave schedule as: Aaron Cloud of Griffin, GA). I've been trying to track any descendants of his. His daughter, Anna/Annie Cloud married twice and continued to live in Sanford, Florida till at least the 1930's. Does anyone have any information on Aaron Cloud (from the 1860 Georgia Census) and his wife, Jane E. Cloud? Thank you, Christine

Got it. Thanks. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Data on Cloudweb site > Harry > > I know that does sound funny, but the way I understand it is that to list > descendants of William means only direct descendants, while related > descendants include the parents and other connected to the family, but not > direct descendants. Does that make sense? > > Ken > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harry Hogan" <hogahl@starpower.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Data on Cloudweb site > > > > Ken -- I'm confused. You say "this listing contains all related > > descendants > > of William Cloud...", and it looks like your're referring to the new one. > > If that's so, I don't understand how it differs from your old list. Sorry > > I'm dense. Harry > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> > > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:58 AM > > Subject: [CLOUD] Data on Cloudweb site > > > > > >> I have just uploaded to my site a completely different listing of Clouds > > and collateral lines. Prior to this I had always limited the data at this > > site to descendants of William Cloud the Immigrant. This listing contains > > all related descendants of William Cloud. This method more than doubled > > the > > amount of information previously listed. > >> > >> I will remove this data on 1 Jan 2005 and then revert to the previous > > listing of only descendants of William Cloud. > >> > >> This list is a bit more involved when following a line, but I think there > > is a need to present the infomation so have set it up this way in hopes > > that > > it may help someone find that long lost relative. > >> > >> Ken Cloud > >> www.cloudweb.org > >> > >> > >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >> .................................................................. > >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > >> Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud ... http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

Harry I know that does sound funny, but the way I understand it is that to list descendants of William means only direct descendants, while related descendants include the parents and other connected to the family, but not direct descendants. Does that make sense? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogan" <hogahl@starpower.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Data on Cloudweb site > Ken -- I'm confused. You say "this listing contains all related > descendants > of William Cloud...", and it looks like your're referring to the new one. > If that's so, I don't understand how it differs from your old list. Sorry > I'm dense. Harry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:58 AM > Subject: [CLOUD] Data on Cloudweb site > > >> I have just uploaded to my site a completely different listing of Clouds > and collateral lines. Prior to this I had always limited the data at this > site to descendants of William Cloud the Immigrant. This listing contains > all related descendants of William Cloud. This method more than doubled > the > amount of information previously listed. >> >> I will remove this data on 1 Jan 2005 and then revert to the previous > listing of only descendants of William Cloud. >> >> This list is a bit more involved when following a line, but I think there > is a need to present the infomation so have set it up this way in hopes > that > it may help someone find that long lost relative. >> >> Ken Cloud >> www.cloudweb.org >> >> >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >> .................................................................. >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >> Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >> >> > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

Ken -- I'm confused. You say "this listing contains all related descendants of William Cloud...", and it looks like your're referring to the new one. If that's so, I don't understand how it differs from your old list. Sorry I'm dense. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:58 AM Subject: [CLOUD] Data on Cloudweb site > I have just uploaded to my site a completely different listing of Clouds and collateral lines. Prior to this I had always limited the data at this site to descendants of William Cloud the Immigrant. This listing contains all related descendants of William Cloud. This method more than doubled the amount of information previously listed. > > I will remove this data on 1 Jan 2005 and then revert to the previous listing of only descendants of William Cloud. > > This list is a bit more involved when following a line, but I think there is a need to present the infomation so have set it up this way in hopes that it may help someone find that long lost relative. > > Ken Cloud > www.cloudweb.org > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > Cloud HomePages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

I have just uploaded to my site a completely different listing of Clouds and collateral lines. Prior to this I had always limited the data at this site to descendants of William Cloud the Immigrant. This listing contains all related descendants of William Cloud. This method more than doubled the amount of information previously listed. I will remove this data on 1 Jan 2005 and then revert to the previous listing of only descendants of William Cloud. This list is a bit more involved when following a line, but I think there is a need to present the infomation so have set it up this way in hopes that it may help someone find that long lost relative. Ken Cloud www.cloudweb.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/267.415.422.1.1 Message Board Post: In your reply to Jane you state, "She is listed as "white" in the 1900 U.S. Census while living with her grandmother,". I would like to point out that even up into the 1900's it was not "cool" to be indian, and many went to great lengths to hide their native heritage and many were listed as white on the census. I've been told that in some places it was illegal! For instance, I have a gg grandmother who was at least 1/2 Cherokee and lived in Ohio. If it had been known she would have been arrested and taken to Indian Territory.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/267.415.422.4 Message Board Post: Your message states that your grandmother was an Indian. Upon further review... your grandmother Myrtle Viola Tapp Wellborn, daughter of William Cicero Tapp and granddaughter of Eber Smith Tapp and Sarah Elvira Rippy Tapp Morris, was part Native American and could probably easily pass for a Caucasian. Eber Smith Tapp was probably 4 or 5 generations removed from or over a period of 4 or 5 generations of intermarrying between Native Americans and Caucasians, Eber Smith Tapp's features made it to where he could easily pass for a Caucasian. As his Tapp line descended out of Virginia, Eber Smith Tapp was only a small portion Native American most likely, but not confirmed, from the tribe of the Wicocomico Indians. Now, Myrtle Tapp's grandmother who was Sarah Elvira Rippy Tapp [Morris] was probably at least half, more likely, to full blooded Native American based on photographic evidence (which also exists for Eber Smith Tapp) most likely of Cherokee Indian descent as Sarah Elvira Rippy was born in Rutherford County, North Carolina in 1836 which was the most westerly county in North Carolina with the rest of North Carolina being "Indian Territory" which was located not too many miles from the Qualla Cherokee Indian Reservation in North Carolina. The heart of the Cherokee Nation was not located too far away either. Assuming that Myrtle Tapp's grandfather, Eber Smith Tapp was 1/8 Native American and that Myrtle Tapp's grandmother, Sarah Elvira Rippy Tapp [Morris] was 1/2 Native American, then this would make William Cicero Tapp, father of Myrtle Tapp, probably at most 5/8ths Native American. As Myrtle Tapp was born in Texas, due to the year of her birth in 1886, then Myrtle Tapp's mother who is unknown to me was most likely a Caucasian which would make Myrtle Tapp probably at most.5/16ths Native American and very easily capable to pass as Caucasian as a poor quality photograph of her seems to prove. So, yes, Myrtle Tapp was Indian, but only part Indian capable of passing for a Caucasian. Her Native American ancestry probably was in the 1/4th to 1/3rd range of Native American ancestry and capable of passing for a Caucasian. Myrtle Tapp was nothing near a full blooded Native American, just part Native American while seemingly Caucasian looking. Mike michael8689@sbcglobal.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wellborn, Tapp Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/267.415.422.3 Message Board Post: Jane, I would be interested in finding out about your Wellborn research particularly as it applies to the Native American aspect of Myrtle Tapp who was the daughter of my great great grandmother. If interested, we can share information particularly on the Native American heritage of Myrtle Tapp. My e-mail address is "michael8689@sbcglobal.net". Respectfully, Mike Smith San Antonio, Texas

To all, I will get back with you as time permits. Joe, my husband, is having an abdominal aortic aneyursm fixed this thursday. We are headed to the hospital. Will be back asap Cousin Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <marion_cloud@msn.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Onnie Cloud Kirby > THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO, WHERE CAN I FIND DOCUMENTATION...THIS IS MY > LINE,VERY INTERESTING! > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: HJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGD > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:11 PM > Subject: [CLOUD] Onnie Cloud Kirby > > > I had the privilege of meeting my cousin Onnie this summer along with her > daughter, Shirley and son-in-law Armstead Hayes. What a wonderful > delight. > Her father named her after the most beautiful girl in Macon County, > Alabama > (per Onnie), his cousin Onie Cloud (later Mrs. John Hannon), my great > aunt. > After the obituary, you will see a genealogy report. FNU=First name > Unknown, LNU=Last Name Unknown . She was my third cousin twice removed. > > Laura > > Montgomery Advertiser, Oct 8, 2004 > KIRBY, Onnie Cloud, 90, a longtime resident of Notasulga, died October 7, > 2004 at Bethany House in Auburn.Funeral services will be Saturday, > October > 9, 2004 at 11:00 a.m. at the Notasulga United Methodist Church. Rev. > George > Mathison and Ron Hill will officiate. Burial will follow in the Notasulga > Cemetery.Visitation will be Saturday from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m. at > the > church.Mrs. Kirby was an active member of the Notasulga Methodist Church > and > of the Ladies Sunday School Class.Her survivors are three daughters, > Shirley > K. (Armstead) Hayes, Au-burn, Nagel K. (John) Byrd, Dothan and Judy K. > (Howard) Johnson, Cleveland, TN; seven grandchildren, Deborah (Kelley) > Mossburg, Winter Park, FL, Armstead Lester Hayes, III, Montgomery, > Stephanie > B. (Tony) Craft, Eclectic, John Edward (Julie) Byrd, Jr., Dothan, An-drea > B. > (Tracy) Battles, Dothan, Wyliene J. Geska, Kingsport, TN and Howard Glenn > (Natalie) Johnson, Tyler, AL; one granddaughter-in-law, Lee Hayes, > Montgomery and 12 great-grandchildren, Kelley Paul Mossburg, Landon Hayes > Mossburg, Armstead Lester Hayes, IV, Wylie Molton Hayes, William Ashurst > Hayes, Kirby Anne McClendon, Davis Byrd Battles, Hayes Anderson Battles, > Ava > Copeland Byrd, Lillen Lindbloom Byrd, Miranda Ruth Johnson and Laura > Virginia Johnson. Mrs. Kirby was preceded in death by her husband, Wylie > Herbert Kirby and by a sister, Flossie Littlefield and a brother, John > Wiley > Cloud.Her grandsons will serve as pallbearers. In lieu of flowers, > memorials > may be made to Bethany House Hospice of EAMC, 665 Opelika Rd., Au-burn, > AL > 36830 or to Notasulga United Methodist Church. > > Funeral Home: CORBITT'S FUNERAL HOME > Publication Date: 10/08/2004 > > Descendants of James Carrell Cloud > > Generation No. 1 > 1. JAMES CARRELL7 CLOUD (NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, > ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born 1791, and died 1867. > Children of JAMES CARRELL CLOUD are: > 2. i. ANDREW JACKSON8 CLOUD, b. July 1836, GA. > ii. PERMELIA CLOUD, b. 1820, Ga. > iii. CICERO CLOUD, b. 1833, GA. > iv. JOHN CLOUD, b. 1844. > > Generation No. 2 > 2. ANDREW JACKSON8 CLOUD (JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, > JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born July 1836 in GA. He married > ELIZABETH EUGENIA MCCLENDON. She was born Abt. 1845. > Children of ANDREW CLOUD and ELIZABETH MCCLENDON are: > i. BOYD9 CLOUD, b. 1874. > ii. HARRIS CLOUD, b. 1875. > iii. JANE JENNIE CLOUD, b. October 1878; m. FNU BASS. > iv. JULIA L. CLOUD, b. April 1881. > 3. v. ANDREW JACKSON CLOUD, b. 29 September 1882. > vi. ROBERT A. CLOUD, b. 20 January 1885. > vii. JAMES HARDY CLOUD, b. 24 March 1887. > > Generation No. 3 > 3. ANDREW JACKSON9 CLOUD (ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, > JEREMIAH5, > WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born 29 September > 1882. > Children of ANDREW JACKSON CLOUD are: > 4. i. ONNIE10 CLOUD. > ii. FLOSSIE CLOUD. > iii. JOHN WYLIE CLOUD. > > Generation No. 4 > 4. ONNIE10 CLOUD (ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, > NOAH6, > JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married > WYLIE > KIRBY. > Children of ONNIE CLOUD and WYLIE KIRBY are: > 5. i. SHIRLEY11 KIRBY. > 6. ii. NAGLE KIRBY. > 7. iii. JUDY KIRBY. > > Generation No. 5 > 5. SHIRLEY11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, > JAMES > CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 > CLOUDE) > She married ARMSTEAD LESTER II HAYES. > Children of SHIRLEY KIRBY and ARMSTEAD HAYES are: > i. DEBORAH12 HAYES, m. FNU MOSSBERG. > ii. ARMSTEAD LESTER III HAYES. > > 6. NAGLE11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES > CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 > CLOUDE) > She married JOHN EDWARD BYRD. > Children of NAGLE KIRBY and JOHN BYRD are: > i. JOHN EDWARD JR.12 BYRD. > ii. STEPHANIE BYRD, m. FNU KRAFT. > iii. ANDREA BYRD, m. FNU BATTLES. > > 7. JUDY11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES > CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 > CLOUDE) > She married HOWARD GLENN JOHNSON. > Child of JUDY KIRBY and HOWARD JOHNSON is: > i. WYLIENE12 JOHNSON, m. FNU GESKA. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud> > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud ... http://mykindred.com/cloud >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/149.213.330.1 Message Board Post: I have your line in my database at www.cloudweb.org I have taken the liberty of adding your data down to you to my data, but it will not appear on the website until I do an update. My data indicates we are 9th cousins. You might want to get in touch with the Cloud Family Assoc and there is a link on my site.

Joanne, Yes, I found a Joseph Cloud b 1750 m to Elizabeth Foulk. His parents were Nathaniel and his 1st wife, Ann Smith. Nathaniel's lineage is: son of Joseph, son of Robert, son of William Cloud I, I have more on Nathaniel's lineage. Does this help? mary jane ----- Original Message ----- From: <sixgrandchildren@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: COPE BOOK ON CLOUD > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/149.213.330 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, My name is Joanne. I am from Joseph Cloud (1750 and Elizabeth Foulk (1759)after which cam Nathaniel Cloud (1788) and Catharine Davis ( then down to Stephen Wesley Cloud (1808 and he married Jane Anna Hickman (1816-1898) Luther Atwood Cloud, Sr. (1850-1930) m. Elizabeth Matilda Wolf (1853-1892) and on to my grandmother Bertha Florence Cloud (1873-1963 who married Hary W. Sharp (1874 -1907) and then to my parents James Reese Shaw, Sr.(6/30/1892-10/16/1972)who married Sadie Henshaw Sharp (8/27/1906-7/14/1983). > > Let me know if we are related. Also I have been trying to get the book on Clouds, but no luck. > > If we are related can you e-mail the the book says, or fax it to me at 324-8033. You can also mail it to me at 308 Park Ave. New Castle, De. 19720 > > Thanks Joanne > sixgrandchildren@aol.com > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <sixgrandchildren@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: COPE BOOK ON CLOUD > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/149.213.330 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, My name is Joanne. I am from Joseph Cloud (1750 and Elizabeth Foulk (1759)after which cam Nathaniel Cloud (1788) and Catharine Davis ( then down to Stephen Wesley Cloud (1808 and he married Jane Anna Hickman (1816-1898) Luther Atwood Cloud, Sr. (1850-1930) m. Elizabeth Matilda Wolf (1853-1892) and on to my grandmother Bertha Florence Cloud (1873-1963 who married Hary W. Sharp (1874 -1907) and then to my parents James Reese Shaw, Sr.(6/30/1892-10/16/1972)who married Sadie Henshaw Sharp (8/27/1906-7/14/1983). > > Let me know if we are related. Also I have been trying to get the book on Clouds, but no luck. > > If we are related can you e-mail the the book says, or fax it to me at 324-8033. You can also mail it to me at 308 Park Ave. New Castle, De. 19720 > > Thanks Joanne > sixgrandchildren@aol.com > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/149.213.330 Message Board Post: Hi, My name is Joanne. I am from Joseph Cloud (1750 and Elizabeth Foulk (1759)after which cam Nathaniel Cloud (1788) and Catharine Davis ( then down to Stephen Wesley Cloud (1808 and he married Jane Anna Hickman (1816-1898) Luther Atwood Cloud, Sr. (1850-1930) m. Elizabeth Matilda Wolf (1853-1892) and on to my grandmother Bertha Florence Cloud (1873-1963 who married Hary W. Sharp (1874 -1907) and then to my parents James Reese Shaw, Sr.(6/30/1892-10/16/1972)who married Sadie Henshaw Sharp (8/27/1906-7/14/1983). Let me know if we are related. Also I have been trying to get the book on Clouds, but no luck. If we are related can you e-mail the the book says, or fax it to me at 324-8033. You can also mail it to me at 308 Park Ave. New Castle, De. 19720 Thanks Joanne sixgrandchildren@aol.com

THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO, WHERE CAN I FIND DOCUMENTATION...THIS IS MY LINE,VERY INTERESTING! ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: HJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGD To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:11 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Onnie Cloud Kirby I had the privilege of meeting my cousin Onnie this summer along with her daughter, Shirley and son-in-law Armstead Hayes. What a wonderful delight. Her father named her after the most beautiful girl in Macon County, Alabama (per Onnie), his cousin Onie Cloud (later Mrs. John Hannon), my great aunt. After the obituary, you will see a genealogy report. FNU=First name Unknown, LNU=Last Name Unknown . She was my third cousin twice removed. Laura Montgomery Advertiser, Oct 8, 2004 KIRBY, Onnie Cloud, 90, a longtime resident of Notasulga, died October 7, 2004 at Bethany House in Auburn.Funeral services will be Saturday, October 9, 2004 at 11:00 a.m. at the Notasulga United Methodist Church. Rev. George Mathison and Ron Hill will officiate. Burial will follow in the Notasulga Cemetery.Visitation will be Saturday from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m. at the church.Mrs. Kirby was an active member of the Notasulga Methodist Church and of the Ladies Sunday School Class.Her survivors are three daughters, Shirley K. (Armstead) Hayes, Au-burn, Nagel K. (John) Byrd, Dothan and Judy K. (Howard) Johnson, Cleveland, TN; seven grandchildren, Deborah (Kelley) Mossburg, Winter Park, FL, Armstead Lester Hayes, III, Montgomery, Stephanie B. (Tony) Craft, Eclectic, John Edward (Julie) Byrd, Jr., Dothan, An-drea B. (Tracy) Battles, Dothan, Wyliene J. Geska, Kingsport, TN and Howard Glenn (Natalie) Johnson, Tyler, AL; one granddaughter-in-law, Lee Hayes, Montgomery and 12 great-grandchildren, Kelley Paul Mossburg, Landon Hayes Mossburg, Armstead Lester Hayes, IV, Wylie Molton Hayes, William Ashurst Hayes, Kirby Anne McClendon, Davis Byrd Battles, Hayes Anderson Battles, Ava Copeland Byrd, Lillen Lindbloom Byrd, Miranda Ruth Johnson and Laura Virginia Johnson. Mrs. Kirby was preceded in death by her husband, Wylie Herbert Kirby and by a sister, Flossie Littlefield and a brother, John Wiley Cloud.Her grandsons will serve as pallbearers. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to Bethany House Hospice of EAMC, 665 Opelika Rd., Au-burn, AL 36830 or to Notasulga United Methodist Church. Funeral Home: CORBITT'S FUNERAL HOME Publication Date: 10/08/2004 Descendants of James Carrell Cloud Generation No. 1 1. JAMES CARRELL7 CLOUD (NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born 1791, and died 1867. Children of JAMES CARRELL CLOUD are: 2. i. ANDREW JACKSON8 CLOUD, b. July 1836, GA. ii. PERMELIA CLOUD, b. 1820, Ga. iii. CICERO CLOUD, b. 1833, GA. iv. JOHN CLOUD, b. 1844. Generation No. 2 2. ANDREW JACKSON8 CLOUD (JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born July 1836 in GA. He married ELIZABETH EUGENIA MCCLENDON. She was born Abt. 1845. Children of ANDREW CLOUD and ELIZABETH MCCLENDON are: i. BOYD9 CLOUD, b. 1874. ii. HARRIS CLOUD, b. 1875. iii. JANE JENNIE CLOUD, b. October 1878; m. FNU BASS. iv. JULIA L. CLOUD, b. April 1881. 3. v. ANDREW JACKSON CLOUD, b. 29 September 1882. vi. ROBERT A. CLOUD, b. 20 January 1885. vii. JAMES HARDY CLOUD, b. 24 March 1887. Generation No. 3 3. ANDREW JACKSON9 CLOUD (ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born 29 September 1882. Children of ANDREW JACKSON CLOUD are: 4. i. ONNIE10 CLOUD. ii. FLOSSIE CLOUD. iii. JOHN WYLIE CLOUD. Generation No. 4 4. ONNIE10 CLOUD (ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married WYLIE KIRBY. Children of ONNIE CLOUD and WYLIE KIRBY are: 5. i. SHIRLEY11 KIRBY. 6. ii. NAGLE KIRBY. 7. iii. JUDY KIRBY. Generation No. 5 5. SHIRLEY11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married ARMSTEAD LESTER II HAYES. Children of SHIRLEY KIRBY and ARMSTEAD HAYES are: i. DEBORAH12 HAYES, m. FNU MOSSBERG. ii. ARMSTEAD LESTER III HAYES. 6. NAGLE11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married JOHN EDWARD BYRD. Children of NAGLE KIRBY and JOHN BYRD are: i. JOHN EDWARD JR.12 BYRD. ii. STEPHANIE BYRD, m. FNU KRAFT. iii. ANDREA BYRD, m. FNU BATTLES. 7. JUDY11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married HOWARD GLENN JOHNSON. Child of JUDY KIRBY and HOWARD JOHNSON is: i. WYLIENE12 JOHNSON, m. FNU GESKA. ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .............................................................. Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud>

I had the privilege of meeting my cousin Onnie this summer along with her daughter, Shirley and son-in-law Armstead Hayes. What a wonderful delight. Her father named her after the most beautiful girl in Macon County, Alabama (per Onnie), his cousin Onie Cloud (later Mrs. John Hannon), my great aunt. After the obituary, you will see a genealogy report. FNU=First name Unknown, LNU=Last Name Unknown . She was my third cousin twice removed. Laura Montgomery Advertiser, Oct 8, 2004 KIRBY, Onnie Cloud, 90, a longtime resident of Notasulga, died October 7, 2004 at Bethany House in Auburn.Funeral services will be Saturday, October 9, 2004 at 11:00 a.m. at the Notasulga United Methodist Church. Rev. George Mathison and Ron Hill will officiate. Burial will follow in the Notasulga Cemetery.Visitation will be Saturday from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m. at the church.Mrs. Kirby was an active member of the Notasulga Methodist Church and of the Ladies Sunday School Class.Her survivors are three daughters, Shirley K. (Armstead) Hayes, Au-burn, Nagel K. (John) Byrd, Dothan and Judy K. (Howard) Johnson, Cleveland, TN; seven grandchildren, Deborah (Kelley) Mossburg, Winter Park, FL, Armstead Lester Hayes, III, Montgomery, Stephanie B. (Tony) Craft, Eclectic, John Edward (Julie) Byrd, Jr., Dothan, An-drea B. (Tracy) Battles, Dothan, Wyliene J. Geska, Kingsport, TN and Howard Glenn (Natalie) Johnson, Tyler, AL; one granddaughter-in-law, Lee Hayes, Montgomery and 12 great-grandchildren, Kelley Paul Mossburg, Landon Hayes Mossburg, Armstead Lester Hayes, IV, Wylie Molton Hayes, William Ashurst Hayes, Kirby Anne McClendon, Davis Byrd Battles, Hayes Anderson Battles, Ava Copeland Byrd, Lillen Lindbloom Byrd, Miranda Ruth Johnson and Laura Virginia Johnson. Mrs. Kirby was preceded in death by her husband, Wylie Herbert Kirby and by a sister, Flossie Littlefield and a brother, John Wiley Cloud.Her grandsons will serve as pallbearers. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to Bethany House Hospice of EAMC, 665 Opelika Rd., Au-burn, AL 36830 or to Notasulga United Methodist Church. Funeral Home: CORBITT'S FUNERAL HOME Publication Date: 10/08/2004 Descendants of James Carrell Cloud Generation No. 1 1. JAMES CARRELL7 CLOUD (NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born 1791, and died 1867. Children of JAMES CARRELL CLOUD are: 2. i. ANDREW JACKSON8 CLOUD, b. July 1836, GA. ii. PERMELIA CLOUD, b. 1820, Ga. iii. CICERO CLOUD, b. 1833, GA. iv. JOHN CLOUD, b. 1844. Generation No. 2 2. ANDREW JACKSON8 CLOUD (JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born July 1836 in GA. He married ELIZABETH EUGENIA MCCLENDON. She was born Abt. 1845. Children of ANDREW CLOUD and ELIZABETH MCCLENDON are: i. BOYD9 CLOUD, b. 1874. ii. HARRIS CLOUD, b. 1875. iii. JANE JENNIE CLOUD, b. October 1878; m. FNU BASS. iv. JULIA L. CLOUD, b. April 1881. 3. v. ANDREW JACKSON CLOUD, b. 29 September 1882. vi. ROBERT A. CLOUD, b. 20 January 1885. vii. JAMES HARDY CLOUD, b. 24 March 1887. Generation No. 3 3. ANDREW JACKSON9 CLOUD (ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) was born 29 September 1882. Children of ANDREW JACKSON CLOUD are: 4. i. ONNIE10 CLOUD. ii. FLOSSIE CLOUD. iii. JOHN WYLIE CLOUD. Generation No. 4 4. ONNIE10 CLOUD (ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married WYLIE KIRBY. Children of ONNIE CLOUD and WYLIE KIRBY are: 5. i. SHIRLEY11 KIRBY. 6. ii. NAGLE KIRBY. 7. iii. JUDY KIRBY. Generation No. 5 5. SHIRLEY11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married ARMSTEAD LESTER II HAYES. Children of SHIRLEY KIRBY and ARMSTEAD HAYES are: i. DEBORAH12 HAYES, m. FNU MOSSBERG. ii. ARMSTEAD LESTER III HAYES. 6. NAGLE11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married JOHN EDWARD BYRD. Children of NAGLE KIRBY and JOHN BYRD are: i. JOHN EDWARD JR.12 BYRD. ii. STEPHANIE BYRD, m. FNU KRAFT. iii. ANDREA BYRD, m. FNU BATTLES. 7. JUDY11 KIRBY (ONNIE10 CLOUD, ANDREW JACKSON9, ANDREW JACKSON8, JAMES CARRELL7, NOAH6, JEREMIAH5, WILLIAM4, JEREMIAH3, WILLIAM2, ROBERT1 CLOUDE) She married HOWARD GLENN JOHNSON. Child of JUDY KIRBY and HOWARD JOHNSON is: i. WYLIENE12 JOHNSON, m. FNU GESKA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/845 Message Board Post: Clouds in Newark Cemetery, Newark, Delaware: Joseph J. Cloud .. Born 10/5/1822, Enlisted in Delaware 4th Brigade on 8/15/1862, Died in Lincoln Hospital, Washington, on 10/10/1864 Wife of Joseph - Mary A. Cloud .. Died 8/2/1919 at age 85 Edwin Cloud 1860 - 1935 (most likely son of Joseph/Mary)

Ken -- I thought it was generally accepted that this Joseph was a son of Capt. William Cloud of the Peter's Creek family by his second wife Eliz. Morgan. I believe Fulkerson makes that point. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Cloud" <kec@cox.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Re: Burrell CLOUD & Mary "Polly" McCOLLOUGH > Imogene and Lura, thank for the help with Burl/Burrell. Now can we tie > Joseph (Pioneer) Cloud to a father hopefully in a main Cloud Line. > > Ken Cloud > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Imogene Bennett" <Imogene.Bennett@att.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:49 PM > Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Burrell CLOUD & Mary "Polly" McCOLLOUGH > > > > Lura, thank you for the census for Joseph CLOUD, s/o Burrell CLOUD & Polly > > McCOLLOUGH. I am on the digest mode of this list, so receive messages a > > little late. > > > > Ronnie Smith straightened me out about Polly Ann being the widow of Joseph > > CLOUD, s/o Burrell & Polly. I had suspected there must have been another > > son of Burrell. Ronnie has confirmed that and is definitely the one you > > found in Cooper Co MO. Ronnie also confirmed that Orlena, the informant > > on > > the death certificate was a half sister of William, nee Orlena BREWER. > > Incidentally, Orlena is a very common name in this group of CLOUDs & > > CARPENTERs. > > > > Thanks again for the census. I appreciate it. > > > > Imogene Bennett > > Springfield, MO > > Imogene.Bennett@att.net > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud ... http://mykindred.com/cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

Imogene and Lura, thank for the help with Burl/Burrell. Now can we tie Joseph (Pioneer) Cloud to a father hopefully in a main Cloud Line. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Imogene Bennett" <Imogene.Bennett@att.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Burrell CLOUD & Mary "Polly" McCOLLOUGH > Lura, thank you for the census for Joseph CLOUD, s/o Burrell CLOUD & Polly > McCOLLOUGH. I am on the digest mode of this list, so receive messages a > little late. > > Ronnie Smith straightened me out about Polly Ann being the widow of Joseph > CLOUD, s/o Burrell & Polly. I had suspected there must have been another > son of Burrell. Ronnie has confirmed that and is definitely the one you > found in Cooper Co MO. Ronnie also confirmed that Orlena, the informant > on > the death certificate was a half sister of William, nee Orlena BREWER. > Incidentally, Orlena is a very common name in this group of CLOUDs & > CARPENTERs. > > Thanks again for the census. I appreciate it. > > Imogene Bennett > Springfield, MO > Imogene.Bennett@att.net > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud ... http://mykindred.com/cloud > >

Lura, thank you for the census for Joseph CLOUD, s/o Burrell CLOUD & Polly McCOLLOUGH. I am on the digest mode of this list, so receive messages a little late. Ronnie Smith straightened me out about Polly Ann being the widow of Joseph CLOUD, s/o Burrell & Polly. I had suspected there must have been another son of Burrell. Ronnie has confirmed that and is definitely the one you found in Cooper Co MO. Ronnie also confirmed that Orlena, the informant on the death certificate was a half sister of William, nee Orlena BREWER. Incidentally, Orlena is a very common name in this group of CLOUDs & CARPENTERs. Thanks again for the census. I appreciate it. Imogene Bennett Springfield, MO Imogene.Bennett@att.net