Is marr date March or August? Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: <MargaretLindly@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: [CLOUD] RE: Date of Death for George Washington Cloud > George Washington Cloud (son of John Austin Cloud) > Born: 1 February 1874 Williamson Co. TX > Died: 19 August 1932 Bell Co. TX > *Note: Please correct you information everyone on date of death > Married 14 August 1895 > Spouse: Etta Archa Johnson > Born: 28 December 1876 TX > Died: 17 December 1964 Austin Travis Co. TX > Children: > Emma Elma > Cora Eliza > Cecil Edger > Vesta Superior > Mary Ethel > Paul Washington > Mattie Elizabeth > Auttie Arlene/Allene > Hazel Opal Evelyn > Georgia Etta > William Wallace > > Margaret Lindly > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

George Washington Cloud (son of John Austin Cloud) Born: 1 February 1874 Williamson Co. TX Died: 19 August 1932 Bell Co. TX *Note: Please correct you information everyone on date of death Married 14 August 1895 Spouse: Etta Archa Johnson Born: 28 December 1876 TX Died: 17 December 1964 Austin Travis Co. TX Children: Emma Elma Cora Eliza Cecil Edger Vesta Superior Mary Ethel Paul Washington Mattie Elizabeth Auttie Arlene/Allene Hazel Opal Evelyn Georgia Etta William Wallace Margaret Lindly

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/873 Message Board Post: Seeking birth family of Missouri (Celia?) Cloud, born abt 1870 in MO or AR. Married Joel B. Norman in 1899, and lived remainder of life in or near Stone Co. MO. Died 1931. Maybe an obit?

Yows and Yoes are both used for the same family. The correct one is Yows. Margaret Lindly

Forgot this: Yes, Ambrose and John Roach were brothers Margaret Lindly

Sorry, I was away so could not answer your Questions. Ric Gordon, my cousin is correct. John Austin Cloud (1841 - 1886) was married to two sisters. Sarah Ann Yows and Eliza Belle Yows. They were the daughters of James Yows ll and Elizabeth Miller. Elizabeth Miller was one of my great , great aunts. Sarah's children are: James William Cloud 10 Dec. 1865 - 21 Dec. 1924 Mary Elizabeth Cloud 18 Jan. 1868 - 3 Nov. 1909 Joseph Evander Cloud 25 September 1869 - 13 Sept. 1943 Sarah Alice Cloud 24 August 1871 - died early 1890's George Washington Cloud 1 Feb. 1874 - 19 Aug. 1895 Eliza Belle Cloud 2 Dec. 1875 - 28 Dec. 1875 (Male ) Cloud 11 Sept. 1878 - 13 Sept. 1878 John Oliver Cloud 30 May 1880 - 26 June 1880 Sarah died from complications of childbirth Eliza Belle's children: Grace Leona Cloud 10 July 1882 - ? Iantha Pearl Cloud 17 July 1887 - ? Martha "Mattie" Augusta Cloud 29 Aug. 1884 - ? Note: Elizabeth Miller (Mueller) was the sister of Martha Ann Miller (Mueller) both were the daughters of John Benton Miller (Mueller) and Mary "Polly" Roberts. Margaret Lindly

Hi Cousins, I have seen several graves like the ones in question. I think it was a style in southern graves during the 1800's. We have several (all on one plot) in our family cemetery in Henry County, Georgia. It is called the Elliott family cemetery, but the first grave made there was for our highly esteemed ancestor, Mary Cloud Elliott, born Mary Cloud, in Pennsylvania in 1773. She married George Elliott also of Pennsylvania. Around 1820 the family migrated with their adult children to the south. First settling in Gwenette county, Georgia where George is buried and later moving to Henry County in about 1823.Much of the land continues to stay in our family and we are now in the 8th generation on that land, and Mary was the first. Mary Cloud Elliott also had the two brothers nearby, Ezekiel Cloud and Jeremiah. Anyway, about two plots away from Mary Clouds grave is a plot of some kin folk that used those above ground stone boxes to mark their graves. When we were kids we figured that if we lifted the lid we would behold the skeletons of one of our ancestors. Fortunately, good sense came before we got strong enough to lift the lids. My guess is that the grave in the picture fell victim to some strong pubescent boys who were trying to scare themselves but only got pinched fingers for their trouble. Once they pulled that foot piece out they found that they were just playing with an unusual grave stone, not a crypt. I visit Mary Cloud's grave every time I go back to Georgia and my children have instructions to spread my ashes among the dust of Mary and the rest. If any of you have information about Mary's parents or ancestors, I would appreciate hearing about them. My intuition is that she descends from William Cloud who came with the Quakers in 1681 or so. Joe Paul

The only crime I think has been done there, is the fact that if someone did hit the crypt and didn't report it. Also, if we were to look into the crypt of William Augustine Cloud, we'll find that it's empty, but if radar (or whatever they use) were used, we would find that there is a body there. That road needs to be moved, or at least the grave be more protected from this happening. Ric ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] grave photos of family of William Augustine Cloud Ric, Margaret wrote that she'd always been told they were buried above ground because they were from Louisiana. But you don't have to live here but a day or two to realize coffins aren't going to float here. Even if/when it rains, it just gets the rocks wet! And a mortician surely would tell the family above-ground burial isn't necessary (and it's not necessary in most of Louisiana either). I pretty much agree with you that it is just a decorative vault, not a burial crypt (if I'm using the terms correctly??). WRT how the damage occurred .... my first thought was a vehicle hit it, but I don't know. After looking at the photo in yesterday's paper of the new mummy uncovered in Egypt, I realized that a mortician could bury even a large person in that narrow crypt. Comfort or spaciousness probably is not a consideration. Then there's the appearance of the earth under the crypt. It didn't look disturbed to me -- which disturbed _ME_. If Elizabeth's body is buried there, I'd think the ground would have settled like it has for all the other graves -- that's why all the other markers are leaning!. When you look at the pictures, there's a little "Notes" or memo tab at the bottom. Click there for the descriptions. That is an artifact of PhotoShop CS, and I won't use it again. I don't like it! .... and, yup, tha's me an' my ol' red pickup (and my lovely child bride!). I managed to kick the bottom of Elizabeth's headstone back into place, sealing the interior, but it's obvious the top is cat-a-wonkus -- another indication to me that something hit it ... also the fact that it is right at a bend in the road/path. Then I leaned the top part of her headstone against the bottom part. There are other headstones broken in two there and I noticed someone clever had made a steel bracket for the sides of a stone to repair it. That would be difficult for Elizabeth's stone because it is wedged into the opening in the vault/crypt. http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/headstones/Bagdad/ So my question remains -- did a theft of her body occur and who do we report it to? There are two contact phone numbers as the last picture that you or Margaret could call. I am willing to go out and do some more investigation for any of the family members, but I really don't know how to proceed. I can even call the sheriff or police (if it's in the city??) out, but I'd like some evidence a crime has been committed). Tom At 02:35 PM 5/4/2005, Ric Gordon <fdg@flash.net> wrote: >Tom, > >I've just now taken a look at Elizabeth Grace "Kennedy" Cloud's tombstone >photo. It wasn't broken into, it was hit, probably by a car or truck. The >body isn't missing as it was buried below ground. The tomb was just a style >that was used, not only of the times, but also of the families connected to >these. This is not the first time I've seen these. ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html

Ric, Margaret wrote that she'd always been told they were buried above ground because they were from Louisiana. But you don't have to live here but a day or two to realize coffins aren't going to float here. Even if/when it rains, it just gets the rocks wet! And a mortician surely would tell the family above-ground burial isn't necessary (and it's not necessary in most of Louisiana either). I pretty much agree with you that it is just a decorative vault, not a burial crypt (if I'm using the terms correctly??). WRT how the damage occurred .... my first thought was a vehicle hit it, but I don't know. After looking at the photo in yesterday's paper of the new mummy uncovered in Egypt, I realized that a mortician could bury even a large person in that narrow crypt. Comfort or spaciousness probably is not a consideration. Then there's the appearance of the earth under the crypt. It didn't look disturbed to me -- which disturbed _ME_. If Elizabeth's body is buried there, I'd think the ground would have settled like it has for all the other graves -- that's why all the other markers are leaning!. When you look at the pictures, there's a little "Notes" or memo tab at the bottom. Click there for the descriptions. That is an artifact of PhotoShop CS, and I won't use it again. I don't like it! .... and, yup, tha's me an' my ol' red pickup (and my lovely child bride!). I managed to kick the bottom of Elizabeth's headstone back into place, sealing the interior, but it's obvious the top is cat-a-wonkus -- another indication to me that something hit it ... also the fact that it is right at a bend in the road/path. Then I leaned the top part of her headstone against the bottom part. There are other headstones broken in two there and I noticed someone clever had made a steel bracket for the sides of a stone to repair it. That would be difficult for Elizabeth's stone because it is wedged into the opening in the vault/crypt. http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/headstones/Bagdad/ So my question remains -- did a theft of her body occur and who do we report it to? There are two contact phone numbers as the last picture that you or Margaret could call. I am willing to go out and do some more investigation for any of the family members, but I really don't know how to proceed. I can even call the sheriff or police (if it's in the city??) out, but I'd like some evidence a crime has been committed). Tom At 02:35 PM 5/4/2005, Ric Gordon <fdg@flash.net> wrote: >Tom, > >I've just now taken a look at Elizabeth Grace "Kennedy" Cloud's tombstone >photo. It wasn't broken into, it was hit, probably by a car or truck. The >body isn't missing as it was buried below ground. The tomb was just a style >that was used, not only of the times, but also of the families connected to >these. This is not the first time I've seen these.

Noticed you have Yoes and I have Yows, which is correct. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Gordon" <fdg@flash.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > So do I by his first wife. He and Sarah Ann Yoes had 8 by my count. I'm > only assuming the Yoes girls were sisters. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > Those are the date I have, but have several more children. > > Ken Cloud > www.Cloudweb.org > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ric Gordon" <fdg@flash.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > > Tom, > > > > I have that John Austin Cloud was married twice. first to Sarah Ann > Yoes > > June 15, 1864 in Williamson Co., Texas, and then to Eliza Yoes August > 16, > > 1881 in Williamson Co., Texas. I have nothing else on this Eliza Yoes > > other > > than her and John had at least 3 daughters. > > > > Ric Gordon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tom Cloud > > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > > > > > > Margaret ... this is your line, but I think you mis-typed. > > John Austin Cloud's wife was Sarah Ann Yows. Their > > daughter was Eliza Bell Cloud. > > > > (Were Ambrose and John Roach brothers ?) > > > > At 09:27 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: > > >Ambrose J. Roach was the son of Bartholomew Roache and Ellen Gibbons > > >Children: > > >Ambrose "A J ' > > >Byron Eldred > > >Charlie Vanoton > > >Jewel Grace > > >Jim Tom > > > > > >Martha "Mattie" Augustus Cloud > > >Born: 29 August 1884 TX > > >Died: June 1971 Ozona, Crockett Co. TX > > >Married: 13 September 1903 TX > > >Spouse Ambrose J. Roach > > > > > >Mattie was the daughter of John Austin Cloud and Eliza Bell Yows > > >John Austin Cloud was the son of William Augustine Cloud and > Elizabeth > > Grace > > >Kennedy Cloud. > > > > > >Matties sister Iantha Pearl Cloud married John Roach > > > > > >Margaret Lindly > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... > http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

It must be Yows as that's what Margaret Lindly has, and I think that's where I got the information. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 Noticed you have Yoes and I have Yows, which is correct. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Gordon" <fdg@flash.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > So do I by his first wife. He and Sarah Ann Yoes had 8 by my count. I'm > only assuming the Yoes girls were sisters. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > Those are the date I have, but have several more children. > > Ken Cloud > www.Cloudweb.org > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ric Gordon" <fdg@flash.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > > Tom, > > > > I have that John Austin Cloud was married twice. first to Sarah Ann > Yoes > > June 15, 1864 in Williamson Co., Texas, and then to Eliza Yoes August > 16, > > 1881 in Williamson Co., Texas. I have nothing else on this Eliza Yoes > > other > > than her and John had at least 3 daughters. > > > > Ric Gordon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tom Cloud > > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > > > > > > Margaret ... this is your line, but I think you mis-typed. > > John Austin Cloud's wife was Sarah Ann Yows. Their > > daughter was Eliza Bell Cloud. > > > > (Were Ambrose and John Roach brothers ?) > > > > At 09:27 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: > > >Ambrose J. Roach was the son of Bartholomew Roache and Ellen Gibbons > > >Children: > > >Ambrose "A J ' > > >Byron Eldred > > >Charlie Vanoton > > >Jewel Grace > > >Jim Tom > > > > > >Martha "Mattie" Augustus Cloud > > >Born: 29 August 1884 TX > > >Died: June 1971 Ozona, Crockett Co. TX > > >Married: 13 September 1903 TX > > >Spouse Ambrose J. Roach > > > > > >Mattie was the daughter of John Austin Cloud and Eliza Bell Yows > > >John Austin Cloud was the son of William Augustine Cloud and > Elizabeth > > Grace > > >Kennedy Cloud. > > > > > >Matties sister Iantha Pearl Cloud married John Roach > > > > > >Margaret Lindly > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... > http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== ................................................................ Cloud Family DNA Project http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/

Those are the date I have, but have several more children. Ken Cloud www.Cloudweb.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Gordon" <fdg@flash.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > Tom, > > I have that John Austin Cloud was married twice. first to Sarah Ann Yoes > June 15, 1864 in Williamson Co., Texas, and then to Eliza Yoes August 16, > 1881 in Williamson Co., Texas. I have nothing else on this Eliza Yoes > other > than her and John had at least 3 daughters. > > Ric Gordon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Cloud > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > > Margaret ... this is your line, but I think you mis-typed. > John Austin Cloud's wife was Sarah Ann Yows. Their > daughter was Eliza Bell Cloud. > > (Were Ambrose and John Roach brothers ?) > > At 09:27 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: > >Ambrose J. Roach was the son of Bartholomew Roache and Ellen Gibbons > >Children: > >Ambrose "A J ' > >Byron Eldred > >Charlie Vanoton > >Jewel Grace > >Jim Tom > > > >Martha "Mattie" Augustus Cloud > >Born: 29 August 1884 TX > >Died: June 1971 Ozona, Crockett Co. TX > >Married: 13 September 1903 TX > >Spouse Ambrose J. Roach > > > >Mattie was the daughter of John Austin Cloud and Eliza Bell Yows > >John Austin Cloud was the son of William Augustine Cloud and Elizabeth > Grace > >Kennedy Cloud. > > > >Matties sister Iantha Pearl Cloud married John Roach > > > >Margaret Lindly > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

So do I by his first wife. He and Sarah Ann Yoes had 8 by my count. I'm only assuming the Yoes girls were sisters. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 Those are the date I have, but have several more children. Ken Cloud www.Cloudweb.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Gordon" <fdg@flash.net> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > Tom, > > I have that John Austin Cloud was married twice. first to Sarah Ann Yoes > June 15, 1864 in Williamson Co., Texas, and then to Eliza Yoes August 16, > 1881 in Williamson Co., Texas. I have nothing else on this Eliza Yoes > other > than her and John had at least 3 daughters. > > Ric Gordon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Cloud > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 > > > > Margaret ... this is your line, but I think you mis-typed. > John Austin Cloud's wife was Sarah Ann Yows. Their > daughter was Eliza Bell Cloud. > > (Were Ambrose and John Roach brothers ?) > > At 09:27 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: > >Ambrose J. Roach was the son of Bartholomew Roache and Ellen Gibbons > >Children: > >Ambrose "A J ' > >Byron Eldred > >Charlie Vanoton > >Jewel Grace > >Jim Tom > > > >Martha "Mattie" Augustus Cloud > >Born: 29 August 1884 TX > >Died: June 1971 Ozona, Crockett Co. TX > >Married: 13 September 1903 TX > >Spouse Ambrose J. Roach > > > >Mattie was the daughter of John Austin Cloud and Eliza Bell Yows > >John Austin Cloud was the son of William Augustine Cloud and Elizabeth > Grace > >Kennedy Cloud. > > > >Matties sister Iantha Pearl Cloud married John Roach > > > >Margaret Lindly > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .............................................................. Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

Also, I wonder what it's going to take to get her tombstone fixed. Is that you picking up her headstone? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ric Gordon To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] grave photos of family of William Augustine Cloud Tom, I've just now taken a look at Elizabeth Grace "Kennedy" Cloud's tombstone photo. It wasn't broken into, it was hit, probably by a car or truck. The body isn't missing as it was buried below ground. The tomb was just a style that was used, not only of the times, but also of the families connected to these. This is not the first time I've seen these. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [CLOUD] grave photos of family of William Augustine Cloud Last Sunday I was out visiting my brother's grave to pull weeds and tend the flowers when my wife suggested we drive over to the section where the old graves are. I had no idea there were any other Clouds buried there, but I managed to park right next to Elizabeth Grace Kennedy Cloud's crypt and there found several Cloud graves. I would have taken pictures of the other family members' graves but I didn't know their surnames. Visit here to see the gravesites of the family of William Augustine Cloud (1810-1870) in the Bagdad Cemetery in Williamson county, Texas. (Yes, it is spelled "Bagdad".) http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/headstones/Bagdad/ ... clicking on any of the pictures gives a larger one. There are at least two descendants of this family on this list -- Margaret Lindly and Bill Riddle (Cloud). Margaret is concerned that the body of Elizabeth has been stolen from the crypt http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/headstones/Bagdad/images800/DSC00709.jpg for it is broken and there are only two stones inside. Does anyone know how to deal with something like this? I suppose calling the police, but I can't say with any certainty that her body was buried above ground -- the space inside the "crypt" is very narrow. It looks to me like the vault or crypt is sitting on top of the grave ?? Tom Cloud ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== ................................................................ Cloud Family DNA Project http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/

Tom, I've just now taken a look at Elizabeth Grace "Kennedy" Cloud's tombstone photo. It wasn't broken into, it was hit, probably by a car or truck. The body isn't missing as it was buried below ground. The tomb was just a style that was used, not only of the times, but also of the families connected to these. This is not the first time I've seen these. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [CLOUD] grave photos of family of William Augustine Cloud Last Sunday I was out visiting my brother's grave to pull weeds and tend the flowers when my wife suggested we drive over to the section where the old graves are. I had no idea there were any other Clouds buried there, but I managed to park right next to Elizabeth Grace Kennedy Cloud's crypt and there found several Cloud graves. I would have taken pictures of the other family members' graves but I didn't know their surnames. Visit here to see the gravesites of the family of William Augustine Cloud (1810-1870) in the Bagdad Cemetery in Williamson county, Texas. (Yes, it is spelled "Bagdad".) http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/headstones/Bagdad/ ... clicking on any of the pictures gives a larger one. There are at least two descendants of this family on this list -- Margaret Lindly and Bill Riddle (Cloud). Margaret is concerned that the body of Elizabeth has been stolen from the crypt http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/headstones/Bagdad/images800/DSC00709.jpg for it is broken and there are only two stones inside. Does anyone know how to deal with something like this? I suppose calling the police, but I can't say with any certainty that her body was buried above ground -- the space inside the "crypt" is very narrow. It looks to me like the vault or crypt is sitting on top of the grave ?? Tom Cloud ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html

Those 3 daughters are my 4th cousins. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 thanks Ric At 01:28 PM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >Tom, > >I have that John Austin Cloud was married twice. first to Sarah Ann Yoes >June 15, 1864 in Williamson Co., Texas, and then to Eliza Yoes August 16, >1881 in Williamson Co., Texas. I have nothing else on this Eliza Yoes other >than her and John had at least 3 daughters. > >Ric Gordon ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .............................................................. Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

thanks Ric At 01:28 PM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >Tom, > >I have that John Austin Cloud was married twice. first to Sarah Ann Yoes >June 15, 1864 in Williamson Co., Texas, and then to Eliza Yoes August 16, >1881 in Williamson Co., Texas. I have nothing else on this Eliza Yoes other >than her and John had at least 3 daughters. > >Ric Gordon

Tom, I have that John Austin Cloud was married twice. first to Sarah Ann Yoes June 15, 1864 in Williamson Co., Texas, and then to Eliza Yoes August 16, 1881 in Williamson Co., Texas. I have nothing else on this Eliza Yoes other than her and John had at least 3 daughters. Ric Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 Margaret ... this is your line, but I think you mis-typed. John Austin Cloud's wife was Sarah Ann Yows. Their daughter was Eliza Bell Cloud. (Were Ambrose and John Roach brothers ?) At 09:27 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >Ambrose J. Roach was the son of Bartholomew Roache and Ellen Gibbons >Children: >Ambrose "A J ' >Byron Eldred >Charlie Vanoton >Jewel Grace >Jim Tom > >Martha "Mattie" Augustus Cloud >Born: 29 August 1884 TX >Died: June 1971 Ozona, Crockett Co. TX >Married: 13 September 1903 TX >Spouse Ambrose J. Roach > >Mattie was the daughter of John Austin Cloud and Eliza Bell Yows >John Austin Cloud was the son of William Augustine Cloud and Elizabeth Grace >Kennedy Cloud. > >Matties sister Iantha Pearl Cloud married John Roach > >Margaret Lindly ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/

All My data is rather extensive and most allof the Cloud info is presented on my web site at www.cloudweb.org . Althought I cannot vouch for any of the data on my site other than my own line I feel it represents a good starting point for many new researchers. The software I use is Ancestral Quest. This software offers a method of collaborating info with others who might be using AQ. Esentually the AQ data I have would be put on a site on the internet and others could look at it, make changes etc. No changes would be finalized until I have had a chance to review the changes. I would expect that my review would involve me checking with other Clouds concerning the changes. Just thought I would throw this out for your info. I in no way claiming to be an OFFICIAL Cloud website, just a facilitator I would hope of Cloud data. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <tcloud@austin.rr.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] CLOUD email forum - current status & history > At 10:13 AM 5/4/2005, Ellen Crawford wrote: >> ... [snip] >> >>I was looking at the info on myKinred page and I have some more info since >>sending you what I had many moons ago. >> >>How can I add what I have found and should I? > > to all .... submitting data to share is best if it is in > gedcom format(easiest on the person merging it). That way > notes and, more importantly, sources are included. Even more > important to me -- less typing, less chance of making typos > ... though merging data is still onerous. > > ... but, data in text format is better than not having it. > > The mykindred site has a way for people to enter and edit > data in real-time. I disabled that as it looked to me > like a big mess waiting to happen -- how to be sure no > mischief or mistrakes would corrupt the data. Also, > how to keep the data and periodically merge duplicate > entries (finding and merging duplicates is a great > source of new clues -- you find links you didn't know > existed!). > > Suggestions solicited, but it seems to me to be less > likely to get messed up if the data is entered through > one "portal" (me right now) rather than having numerous > people making changes ... ??? > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > >

Tom and Margaret, This is my line as well. Elizabeth Grace Kennedy was a Gordon descendant, and thus one of my cousins, as are her descendants. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Cloud To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Mattie Cloud 1908-2003 Margaret ... this is your line, but I think you mis-typed. John Austin Cloud's wife was Sarah Ann Yows. Their daughter was Eliza Bell Cloud. (Were Ambrose and John Roach brothers ?) At 09:27 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >Ambrose J. Roach was the son of Bartholomew Roache and Ellen Gibbons >Children: >Ambrose "A J ' >Byron Eldred >Charlie Vanoton >Jewel Grace >Jim Tom > >Martha "Mattie" Augustus Cloud >Born: 29 August 1884 TX >Died: June 1971 Ozona, Crockett Co. TX >Married: 13 September 1903 TX >Spouse Ambrose J. Roach > >Mattie was the daughter of John Austin Cloud and Eliza Bell Yows >John Austin Cloud was the son of William Augustine Cloud and Elizabeth Grace >Kennedy Cloud. > >Matties sister Iantha Pearl Cloud married John Roach > >Margaret Lindly ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/