this was posted to an alternate rootsweb forum ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:49:13 -0600 From: "tdgx4leeds@juno.com" <tdgx4leeds@juno.com> Source: TNCLAIBO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Frank James, Friend of Benjamin Schultz I'm from Missouri, not far from where the James Brothers are from so I have an interest in them and was curious when I ran across suggestions of them having Claiborne Connections as well. My Mother is from the Evans family from Tazwell. Here is what I found. Also, in a book I checked out from the local library on the James Family (A genealogy type book) I believe Schultz or someone from Claiborne County, TN built a house here in MO near the James and they ended up with it. KCMO MAILTO:"JPAYNE5744@AOL.COM"JPayne5744@aol.com Subj: Frank & Jesse James Date: 11/3/00 1:32:28 PM Eastern Standard Time From: ShariBen@aol.com To: JPayne5744 Hi Joe, I was just browsing through your website to see what's been updated. I noticed that you had a link for the Outlaw Jesse Woodson James. I didn't know if you would be interested or not, but in my search on the Shultz family I came across a story of Frank James coming to Tazewell, TN to visit Benjamin Franklin Shultz. [Benjamin Frankin Shultz b. February 12, 1842 was the son Jacob Shultz Jr. & Louisanna Cloud] (Source: "Chadwell Heritage: A Family History" by Mary Wolfinbarger Braun and Sharon Chadwell Phillips, page 165) FRANK JAMES VISITS BENJAMIN SCHULTZ AT TAZEWELL IN 1875 An interesting sidelight on the life of Benjamin Schultz was his friendship with Frank James, the notorious Missouri outlaw, and brother of Jesse James. Benjamin and Frank served under General Price in the confederate Army, both drove ordinance wagons in some battles. Before that Frank James had ridden with Quatrell's men. It would have been a strange friendship, on the surface -- Benjamin Schultz being an honorabel and high principled man, of unusual intelligence, but, on looking deeper in the family history, we find that they were bound by family ties as well as friendship. The parents of Jesse and Frank James were known to have been highly respectable people -- Mrs. James being from a good Kentucky family, the Shacklefords. Dr. Gabriel Shackleford came down from Kentucky and married Benjamin Schultz' aunt, Nancy M. Cloud in Tazewell, Tennessee. Dr. Shackleford was an esteemed physician and citizen of Tazewell until his wife's death and he went to Missouri. Nancy Cloud's sister married a Norfleet, whose family also married into the Shackleford family. But a close family tie was Benjamin's sister's marriage to W. S. Norfleet in Springfield, Missouri. W.S. Norfleet was a son of David Norfleet and Elizabeth Shackleford. That Benjamin and Frank James' friendship survived the War is revealed in Dr. Robert L. Kincaid's book, "The Wilderness Road." In a chapter describing a hanging in Tazewell on August 23, 1875, Kincaid writes that there was a crowd of people gathered to see the hanging of a convicted murderer, estimated to be between five and six thousand people -- men and women and children. Kincaid opines that if the people had known it, their attention to a well built, bronzed, man with steel gray eyes would have vied with the interest of seeing a man hanged. For that man in the crowd was Frank James who had accidentally fallen in with a company of riders, and with his companion, George Shepard, had arrived in Tazewell to visit his old companion of the Confederate Army, Benjamin Schultz. The steely eyed James had given a native a five dollar gold piece to find him a good seat. In 1893 when Frank James was a member of the St. Louis Police Force, he went to Nashville to seek information about the death of his old chieftain, William Clarke Quantrill, who was killed in Kentucky during the close of the Civil War. At that time he told Nashville friends that it was a quiet interim in the careers of him and his brother Jesse, that took him to Tazewell. It was easy for a man to hide himself in the wild Kentucky hills where men still lived much as they wished. Information from Daily Press and Knoxville Herald August 15, 1875. Also Knoxville Messenger, August 18, 1875. Also interviews with eye witnesses. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :)shari Chandler, AZ http://members.fortunecity.com/shariben/ http://members.aol.com/shariben/ From the notes of Descendents of Jacob Shultz Thanks to Jim Shults, Knoxville, Tennessee and Roy Shultz, Greenville, Texas Eliza's father, Thomas Johnson, came to Claiborne County from Mobile, Alabama about 1840 and married Eliza J. Graham, whose father, Dr. Andrew Graham, had been a surgeon in the British Navy. Thomas Johnson was later in the Confederate Army during the Civil War. Eliza's sister, Mary, married Alexander Cloud. Benjamin was a Confederate veteran of the Civil War. He moved to Missouri with his parents in the late 1850's. After the War he went to Navarro Co, Texas where he hauled freight between Millican and Dallas for about two years. In 1868 he returned to Tazewell, TN. For a number of years he was engaged in the mercantile business, as his father had been. He was Postmaster at Cumberland Gap, TN in 1894. Benjamin was a close friend of Frank James, brother of Jesse. He and Frank served together in the Confederate Army and both drove ordinance wagons. In August 1875 Frank came to Tazewell to visit with his old friend, Benjamin. The book "800 Missouri Families" 4 Vols, Feb 1989, by Don Vincent, Volume 3, page 16 has a small article by one Milburn Divine. He writes of Benjamin: "He was a Capt. in [the same] Confederate Cavalry troop in Missouri in which both Frank and Jesse James were members. Schultz built "Meadow Hill" house and farm here Frank and Jesse came when wanted in Missouri. Schultz sold "Meadow Hill" to Dr. John W. Divine (an ancestor of the Milburn Divine writing the article...jrs) and old papers found in the garrett over the kitchen in this house in 1954 confirm the Schultz-James story."
Thanks you to Glinda , Ken and Al for their kind responses to my enquiries on this family. I will try your various suggestions . thanks again, Kathy.
Kathy, I searched the 1910 Tennessee census for all Cloud names, and saw none for a Homer Cloud. In response to your question to Ken Cloud who replied to your message, Ken maintains a very comprehensive web site of Cloud names at www.cloudweb.org. Good luck, Al Cloud. On Jun 5, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Richard Dracup wrote: > Hi , I am new to your list and am trying to help my sister-in-law > with her husbands Genealogy. > Family lore has it that there is Cherokee and Choctaw in the family. > In the 1920 Census for Butler County, Lincoln Kansas.. they are > listed as follows: Page 277A. Household # 74 > Cloud, Homer E. Age 39 Born Missouri , Parents from Tenn and > Kentucky. Laborer/ Oil Field > Cloud, Lorna R. age 29 Born Missouri parents both from Missouri > Cloud, Nellie age 9 born Missouri > Cloud, Carl E. age 6 Born Kansas. > Cloud, Walter W. age 5 born Kansas. > Cloud, Richard Age 3 9/12 born Kansas. > Cloud, Glenn K age 1 10/12 Born Kansas > > We wonder if anyone may have access to the 1910 Census to locate Homer > E. CLOUD in Tenn ? We wonder if this family may ring a bell for > anyone on your list? With Kind regards, Kathy. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >
Ken, Thank you for your reply.. glad to know that someone else is looking at this family-- I had also found them in the 1930 Colorado Census -Otero County , Rocky Ford City. As follows : Omar E. Cloud ( A misspelling no doubt) age 49 Mo Tn Mo. Odd jobs/laborer . Listed as Married , but wife not listed . Cloud , Carl Son, age 16 KS, MO, MO. Cloud, Richard Son age 14 KS, Mo, Mo. Cloud, Kenneth Son Age 12 KS, Mo, MO Cloud Wallace Son age 09 Ks, Mo, Mo . The middle initial for Omar/Homer is definitely an E. in this Census.. I don't know the maiden name of his Wife, Lorna as yet.. but , the search goes on.. May I ask what your interest in the family is ? is there a connection somewhere ? regards, Kathy.
I have him as Homer C. Cloud. Esentualy I have the same data as you do from the census. I do not have him connected to any other Cloud line. Ken Cloud www.cloudweb.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Dracup" <aussierock@msn.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:57 AM Subject: [CLOUD] ClOUD surname w/ Native American ties ? > Hi , I am new to your list and am trying to help my sister-in-law with > her husbands Genealogy. > Family lore has it that there is Cherokee and Choctaw in the family. In > the 1920 Census for Butler County, Lincoln Kansas.. they are listed as > follows: Page 277A. Household # 74 > Cloud, Homer E. Age 39 Born Missouri , Parents from Tenn and Kentucky. > Laborer/ Oil Field > Cloud, Lorna R. age 29 Born Missouri parents both from Missouri > Cloud, Nellie age 9 born Missouri > Cloud, Carl E. age 6 Born Kansas. > Cloud, Walter W. age 5 born Kansas. > Cloud, Richard Age 3 9/12 born Kansas. > Cloud, Glenn K age 1 10/12 Born Kansas > > We wonder if anyone may have access to the 1910 Census to locate Homer E. > CLOUD in Tenn ? We wonder if this family may ring a bell for anyone on > your list? With Kind regards, Kathy. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >
Hi , I am new to your list and am trying to help my sister-in-law with her husbands Genealogy. Family lore has it that there is Cherokee and Choctaw in the family. In the 1920 Census for Butler County, Lincoln Kansas.. they are listed as follows: Page 277A. Household # 74 Cloud, Homer E. Age 39 Born Missouri , Parents from Tenn and Kentucky. Laborer/ Oil Field Cloud, Lorna R. age 29 Born Missouri parents both from Missouri Cloud, Nellie age 9 born Missouri Cloud, Carl E. age 6 Born Kansas. Cloud, Walter W. age 5 born Kansas. Cloud, Richard Age 3 9/12 born Kansas. Cloud, Glenn K age 1 10/12 Born Kansas We wonder if anyone may have access to the 1910 Census to locate Homer E. CLOUD in Tenn ? We wonder if this family may ring a bell for anyone on your list? With Kind regards, Kathy.
At 12:46 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote: >Does anyone know these people? > > Elizabeth Cloud, dau of Ezekiel Cloud > > m1. (unk) HARDIN, bef. 1838 > > m2. James SPURLOCK, 10-25-1838 Henry cty, VA > >thanks, >Tom Cloud I found out a little more .... Elizabeth Cloud Hardin Spurlock was b. ca 1813 in GA 1860 census, Floyd cty, Rome district, GA, July 9, 1860 series M563, roll 121, p. 193, lines 19-25, HH 472 James M Spallock, 48, M, $12,000, $18,000, GA Elizabeth Spallock, 47, F, GA Martha Spallock, 18, F, GA Texanna Spallock, 15, F, GA California Spallock, 12, F, GA Jan Spallock, 8, F, GA Elizabeth Spallock, 1, F, GA 1870 census, Floyd cty, Rome 1 ward, GA, June 21, 1870 p.12, series M593, roll 149, p. 179, lines 39-40, HH 84 Spullock, Jas M, 52, M, W, farmer, GA " , Elizabeth, 46, F, W, keeping house, GA (next page - p. 13 (180)) Spullock, Callie, 18, F, at home, GA " , Fannie C, 14, F, at school, GA " , Jesse F, 10, F, at school, GA " , James H, 5, M, GA
Does anyone know these people? Elizabeth Cloud, dau of Ezekiel Cloud m1. (unk) HARDIN, bef. 1838 m2. James SPURLOCK, 10-25-1838 Henry cty, VA thanks, Tom Cloud
----- Original Message ----- From: "alice maurer" <alicefloydmaurer@msn.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L-Request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: looking for hugh hicklin >I AM LOOKING FOR HUGH HICKLIN BORN 1776 chester county S.C. HE MARRIED >MARY CLOUD HE WAS A NOTERY PUBLIC PLEASE HELP ME FIND WHERE IS BURRIED IN >CHESTER. THANK YOU ALICE MAURER EMAIL IS ALICEFLOYDMAURER@MSN.COM > > >
this was posted to an alternate rootsweb forum ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:07:39 -0600 From: kwoods@apex2000.net Source: TEASLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thomas "Tom" F. Teasley - GA This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zNRBAEB/141 Message Board Post: Still searching for Thomas "Tom" F. Teasley b:Abt. 25 Dec 1835, d: Aft. 1900, m: Bef. 13 Jul 1860 to Sophia Cloud(?) Know the following: LIVING IN CALHOUN CO, ALA 1860 LIVING IN ST CLAIR CO, ALA 1870 LIVING IN MADISON CO, ALA 1880 LIVING IN SEVIER CO, ARK 1900 Children: James "Jimmie" Thomas Teasley John Teasley Fannie Teasley Emily A. Teasley Ida Lee "Edith" Teasley Mary "Mollie" Texanna Teasley Oscar William Teasley Have info on children. ANY help would be GREATLY appreciated! Kay
I found this interesting. I have a Sarah "Poile" Pyle born 15 January 1730 in Wellmington DE., Married 24 January 1751 Old Swedes Church New Castle Co. DE to Joseph Cloud Jr. born abt. 1728 - 1735 DE. This Sarah died before 15 August 1808. She is buried in the Concord MM church yard in Chester Co. PA. Her children were Joseph Cloud born 1754 and died August 1838, James Cloud born 1755, Joshua and John Cloud. I have This Joseph Cloud Jr. as the son of William Cloud Sr. born 1695 PA and Elizabeth Hayes born 1695 England. This Joseph married #2 Charity Talley 9 May 1760 Old Swedes Church New Castle Co. DE. There is not much information other then he went to VA. Had sons William who moved to SC and Isaac who went to NC. Joseph is mention in his fathers will. He received no land in Fredericks Co. VA from the fathers will. He did receive land held in trust in DE. Joseph was not of age in 1747 when his father died. Joseph was mentioned as the youngest son in William Clouds will. This Joseph Cloud died 7 September 1813 Concord Chester Co. PA. I have most of the same information as you do on Robert Cloud born 2 Feb. 1723, spouse Magdalene Peterson. I have Roberts father as Joseph Cloud born abt. 1685 and mother as Cecily Chamberlin. I have Roberts children as : Rev. Robert Cloud born 1753 Rev. Adam Cloud born 1755 Margaret Cloud who married a Carter Hannah Cloud who married a Ford Phebe Cloud who married a Baldwin Sarah Cloud Not on the will : Abner Cloud Selva Cloud Israel Cloud Susannah Cloud On the back of Robert Cloud's card it says Magdalene Peterson daughter of Israel Peterson and Margaret Stedham. The source was The Cloud Family by Thomas Maxwell Potts 1911. Robert's will probate 20 April 1801 Hall of Records Dover DE. 3 September 1684 Joseph Cloud received warrant for 200 acres located in Chichester PA. He sold this land to his brother William Cloud in 1686. He went back to England but returned to the Colonies. Margaret Lindly
this was posted to an alternate rootsweb forum .......................... Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:35:18 -0600 From: "Nancee(McMurtrey)Seifert" <iggy29@rnetinc.net> Source: IAMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: DEATH OF WALTER WHITLATCH The Chariton Leader, Chariton, Iowa Thursday, February 25, 1909 The announcement is made of the death of WALTER WHITLATCH, at his home in Columbia, on Monday morning. This will be hailed by genuine grief by his acquaintances and he was widely known -- few in either Marion or Lucas Counties were better known than he. He was a true nobleman in every sense of the word and met every obligation of life courageously and well, just in his contact with men, upright as a neighbor and citizen. He had been in declining health for months but was well advanced in age and had well accomplished his life-work. The funeral was held on Tuesday afternoon. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Columbia, Feb. 23 -- WALTER WHITLATCH, an old and highly respected citizen of Marion County, died at his home, two miles east of Columbia, Monday morning, Feb. 22, 1909. For several years the deceased has been in declining health. One year was spent in southern California in hopes of a benefit, but for the past six months there has been a rapid decline, and all that loving hands and medical aid could do was of no avail. Deceased was born in Indiana in 1834, resided in Marion County since 1843, and at the time of his death was aged 75 years, 1 month and 20 days. He was first married March 24, 1859. To this union were born six children. The mother and three children have preceded him to the Beyond. MRS. WILL MADDY died Oct. 15, 1887; GEO. WHITLATCH, Dec. 12, 1882, and MRS. W.O. CLOUD, June 11, 1901. Three remain to mourn the loss of a loving father: A.V. WHITLATCH of Belinda; MRS. J.N. MADDY, of Columbia, and MRS. ORA DAVIS, of Lafayette, Colo. Deceased was again married, Sept. 4, 1898, to MRS. GWENNIE LONG, who has been a faithful and devoted companion to him through all his declining years. Our community has lost a good man, an honest and upright neighbor, a friend to all mankind and one who will be greatly missed from our midst. Funeral services were held at the home at 11 o'clock, Tuesday, Feb. 23, conducted by Rev. Smith, after which the remains were laid to rest in the Columbia Cemetery by the Masonic Lodge, of which he was a member. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Copied by Nancee(McMurtrey)Seifert May 23, 2005 iggy29@rnetinc.net
this message was posted on an alternate rootsweb forum .................. Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 21:49:49 -0600 From: maggwett1@juno.com Source: OKCOMANC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Comanche Co.,Obit Lookup This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YYB.2ACE/673.1 Message Board Post: From the Lawton Constituion, Lawton, Comanche county, Oklahoma, Tuesday, April 10, 1979, page 4. "Norman McNeeley CACHE (Staff) - Funeral for Norman H. McNeeley, 53, who died Monday after an apparent heart attack, was at 2 p.m. Wednesday in the Church of Christ with Mark Lewis, minister, and the Rev. George Stauffer, pastor of First United Methodist Church, officiating. Burial was in Cache Cemetery, under the direction on Huddleston's Cache Funeral Home. Mr. McNeeley was born November 25, 1925, at Hastings, and was married to Nell Barfield Ritter, May 16. 1974, at Madill. He retired as business manager of the Lawton Labor Union and was a veteran of World War II. He was graduated from Draughon's Business College at Oklahoma City. Survivors include his wife of the home; his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Phillip McNeeley of Lawton; three daughters, Jeannie Hannabass of Indianhoma, Patricia Pamplin of Lawon, and Rhonda Ritter of the home; and two sisters, Nadine McDivitt of Lawton and Nelda Cloud of Duncan."
please remove my name from this mailing list. Thank you, Joe Paul
Tom, My grandfather, Joe Cloud, kept a ledger during the first twenty years of his marriage. He entered all of the items purchased during each year, the date of purchase, the store were the purchase was made and the cost for each item. Some of the items wouldn't be recognizable to the reader today unless the person had a farming background. Many couldn't be purchased today. He bought material and thread and my grandmother made the clothes for the family. He bought leather and tacks and made shoes for the family. Here is a sample: Facinater - 50 cents. Some of the ladies might identify this item. 4 plough points - $1.05 Half soles - 25 cents Coffee (fresh ground) - 25 cents file - 10 cents comb - 10 cents 4 yds flannel - $1.00 4 yds calico - 25 cents 1 buckhead - 55 cents 1 collar pad - 35 cents 1 pr overalls - 50 cents 4 sacks flour - $2.10 1 pr. hose - 10 cents 1 No. 2 Oliver plough - $9.00 1 pr hames - 50 cents 1 pr trace chains - 45 cents 1 backband - 15 cents 15 yds domestic - $1.00 5 gal. coal oil - 25 cents 1 box shells - 45 cents He got extravagant in 1906 and bought 1 bottle of Brilliantine for 25 cents. That's hair dressing for you young whippersnappers. I go to Walmart today and blow $25 just on shaving and hair supplies. Ray Shirley Ask me about the Cloud DNA Project rshirley@icx.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/13/2005 10:28:36 AM > Subject: [CLOUD] Comparative values of U.S. currency > > Please take a look at the page I've posted to allow the comparison > of currency from 1800 to present in the U.S. > http://www.mykindred.com/cloud/TX/Documents/dollar/ > > Let me know if ... > - you have any suggestions > - it looks bad on your computer screen > > BTW, this was prompted, among other things, by the probate of > my 4th-g-grandfather Jeremiah Cloud's will. I wanted to know > about what the things then might cost today (of course, this > is impossible, for something hand-made then is mass-produced > today, and they didn't have antibiotics, etc. > > Take a look also at the accompanying graph -- notice how the > cost of living began its (?exponential?) climb right after WW-II. > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >
Thanks Mary Jane ... and that reinforces how difficult it is to really compare -- part of the value of things was and is related to the locality, e.g. a gold rush or an oil boom, when everything becomes scarce and more expensive. Tom At 11:14 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote: >Tom, > Fasinating. I was able to make a copy, too. > It's difficult to relate to all that information, however, unless we can find actual examples. > Just for general information, you may find this interesting from an arrticulate cousin from way back: > He wrote in 1857 from Indiana, "...pork is worth $20 per pound; wheat is only $1.00 corn 50 cts. per bu. oats 60. Coffee and sugar 15 cts per lb." > In 1864 he wrote: "....wheat is near $2 - corn 1. Corn meal $1.50 hogs gross 6 to 7 dollars. Beef cattle $5 gross for good quallity. Sheep 4 or 5, horses $150 - coffee 60 - sugar 35 ." > In 1876 from Colorado Territory, "Old potatoes are worth $3 per bu.....Beef Steak here 10 to 15 cts per lb, flour 8 to 9 dollars per sack." > >mary jane battaglia >----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <tcloud@austin.rr.com> >To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:27 AM >Subject: [CLOUD] Comparative values of U.S. currency > > >>Please take a look at the page I've posted to allow the comparison >>of currency from 1800 to present in the U.S. >>http://www.mykindred.com/cloud/TX/Documents/dollar/ >> >>Let me know if ... >> - you have any suggestions >> - it looks bad on your computer screen >> >>BTW, this was prompted, among other things, by the probate of >>my 4th-g-grandfather Jeremiah Cloud's will. I wanted to know >>about what the things then might cost today (of course, this >>is impossible, for something hand-made then is mass-produced >>today, and they didn't have antibiotics, etc. >> >>Take a look also at the accompanying graph -- notice how the >>cost of living began its (?exponential?) climb right after WW-II. >> >>thanks, >>Tom Cloud >> >> >> >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>.................................................................. >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >> > > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. >Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud
Tom, think these are the folks you are looking for. They descend from Robert Cloud b. abt 1589 in England. My source was Larry Mills a long time Mills researcher lempga@bellsouth.net Descendant List of Joseph CLOUD - 14 May 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Joseph CLOUD (abt 1677-) +Ruth JERVIS (-) . . 2-Joseph CLOUD Jr. (abt 1710-) . . +Nancy MOORE (-) . . . . 3-William CLOUD (17 Sep 1750-8 Feb 1842) . . . . +L. Adeline MARTIN (-) . . . . . . 4-Issac CLOUD (-) . . . . . . 4-Nancy CLOUD (-) . . . . +Elizabeth MORGAN (1745-) . . . . . . 4-William Morgan CLOUD (1780-16 Jun 1857) . . . . . . +Rebecca MITCHELL (-) . . . . . . +Rachael SIMPSON (-) . . . . . . 4-Jeremiah CLOUD (21 Jan 1781-) . . . . . . +Karen BERRY (-) . . . . . . 4-Joseph CLOUD (1783-aft 11 Aug 1823) . . . . . . +Jane (Jannie) CARPENTER (abt 1786-aft 17 Apr 1850) . . . . . . . . 5-Mary Polly CLOUD (1805-4 Mar 1847) . . . . . . . . . . 6-William Cloud MILLS (6 Jan 1829-27 Aug 1896) . . . . . . . . . . +Hannah Louis A OGAN (15 Dec 1833-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Emily MILLS (3 Jun 1855-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Orville (Tonk) MILLS (21 May 1856-1932) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Govan MILLS (20 Nov 1857-4 May 1935) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Susan MILLS (10 Dec 1859-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Fances (Fanny) MILLS (6 Dec 1861-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Elizabeth MILLS (20 Jan 1864-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Celia MILLS (17 Sep 1866-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Peter Barnett MILLS (8 Aug 1868-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Mary Anise MILLS (1 Sep 1871-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Barbara Alice MILLS (6 Feb 1877-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Lura Jo MILLS (5 Oct 1877-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Mariah Rogers (Maria) MILLS (9 Dec 1830-30 Sep 1915) . . . . . . . . . . +Thomas WINKLER (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-William WINKLER (1 Jan 1848-) . . . . . . . . . . +Wesley COLLINS (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Mary MILLS (1832-22 Nov 1889) . . . . . . . . . . +Edley WOLFE (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Marvel MILLS (3 Dec 1835-16 May 1913) . . . . . . . . . . +Julia GOFF (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-John Adam MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . +Hannah MCGINNIS (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Noah MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Mary MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-James Madison MILLS (2 Feb 1868-26 Jul 1910) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Orville MILLS (Jul 1838-22 Sep 1919) . . . . . . . . . . +Melvina WOLFE (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Cordelia MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Mary (Polly) MILLS (15 Aug 1862-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-George MILLS (21 Oct 1866-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Elizabeth MILLS (2 Feb 1869-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-William MILLS (25 Nov 1872-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Margaret MILLS (10 May 1873-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Bedy MILLS (25 Apr 1881-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Lucinda MILLS (15 Mar 1882-24 Apr 1974) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Frances Mills MILLS (8 Jan 1885-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Joseph (Little Joe) MILLS (1841-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Sarah Jane MILLS (4 Feb 1844-aft 1905) . . . . . . . . . . +James K. EPPERSON (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Mary Lucinda EPPERSON (1862-1912) . . . . . . . . 5-Benjamin CLOUD (1806-) . . . . . . . . +Mariah BARNARD (-) . . . . . . . . +Matilda TUCKER (-) . . . . . . . . 5-Malinda CLOUD (1806-1896) . . . . . . . . +James MITCHELL (abt 1804-abt 1871) . . . . . . . . 5-Elizabeth (Betsy) CLOUD (-) . . . . . . . . +John DEVAULT (-) . . . . . . . . 5-Female 2 CLOUD (-) . . . . . . . . +John BERNARD (-) . . . . . . . . 5-William Henry CLOUD (1813-) . . . . . . . . +Mary Jane LAKINS (1814-1858) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Joseph Britten CLOUD (1835-) . . . . . . . . . . +Margaret HINES (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Benjamin F. CLOUD (1838-) . . . . . . . . . . +Elizabeth (Cline) WISE (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Wiley Van Buren CLOUD (1840-14 Nov 1903) . . . . . . . . . . +Nancy MILLS (1846-1895) . . . . . . . . . . 6-William Henderson CLOUD (1842-13 Apr 1909) . . . . . . . . . . +Emaline WOODS (-) . . . . . . . . . . +Evaline WOODSON (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Mary CLOUD (1845-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Abraham CLOUD (1846-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Nancy A. CLOUD (1850-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Martha E. CLOUD (1854-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Edly Houston CLOUD (25 May 1858-25 Oct 1858) . . . . . . . . +Elizabeth SHUMATE (-) . . . . . . . . +Elizabeth (Shumate) HILL (-) . . . . . . . . 5-Greenberry CLOUD (1815-) . . . . . . . . +Elizabeth MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . 5-Burrell (Burl) CLOUD (abt 1816-bef 1840) . . . . . . . . +Mary Jane (Polly) MCCULLOUGH (17 Jun 1817-aft 1880) . . . . . . . . . . 6-James Madison CLOUD (abt 1830-15 Mar 1862) . . . . . . . . . . +Eliza MILLS (Mar 1832-bef 17 Jun 1900) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Lydia Miranda CLOUD (12 Jan 1854-22 Feb 1911) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-William T. CLOUD (12 Oct 1856-15 Sep 1877) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Jefferson C. (Jeff) CLOUD (7 Jul 1858-) . . . . . . . . . . +Eliza MILLS (Mar 1832-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Liza M. CLOUD (1854-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-William CLOUD (1856-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Jefferson C. CLOUD (Jul 1858-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Comfort Jane CLOUD (23 Mar 1832-17 Jul 1907) . . . . . . . . . . +James Matthew (Mat) MILLS (abt 1825/26-27 Feb 1864) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-William Burrel MILLS (9 Jun 1851-22 May 1917) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Henry Joseph MILLS (16 Apr 1854-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-John R. MILLS (9 Jan 1857-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Thomas Jefferson (Jeff) MILLS (6 Mar 1859-1 Jul 1915) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Betti J. MILLS (6 Aug 1864-5 Oct 1921) . . . . . . . . . . +James Davis HOLSTEIN (-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Julia HOLSTEIN (15 May 1874-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-David HOLSTEIN (23 May 1872-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Joseph CLOUD (1836-aft 1869) . . . . . . . . . . +Polly A. UNKNOWN (1842-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Sarah Angelina CLOUD (1859-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Orlena CLOUD (1862-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Joseph CLOUD (1866-) . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-Lauriel CLOUD (1869-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-William,Sr. CLOUD (14 Oct 1838-12 Oct 1918) . . . . . . . . 5-Female 1 CLOUD (-) . . . . . . . . +John DEVAULT (-) . . . . . . . . 5-Mary CLOUD (-) . . . . . . . . +Joseph (Joel) MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Mariah MILLS (12 Sep 1830-30 Sep 1915) . . . . . . . . . . +Thomas WINKLER (-) . . . . . . . . . . +Wesley COLLINS (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-William Cloud MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . +Louise OGAN (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Mary MILLS (1832-22 Nov 1889) . . . . . . . . . . +Edly WOLFE (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Marvel MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . +Julia Ann GOFF (-) . . . . . . . . . . +Hannah MCGINNIS (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Orville MILLS (Jul 1838-22 Sep 1919) . . . . . . . . . . +Melvina WOLFE (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Joseph C. MILLS (-aft 1861) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Sarah Jane MILLS (-) . . . . . . . . . . +James EPPERSON (-) . . . . . . . . 5-Male CLOUD (aft 1820-) . . . . . . . . 5-Calvin CLOUD (28 Jun 1821-11 Oct 1862) . . . . . . . . +Mary Jane NAIL (-) . . . . . . . . . . 6-Greenbury CLOUD (-) . . . . . . 4-Greenberry CLOUD (1785-) . . . . . . 4-Benjamin Franklin CLOUD (1787-) . . . . . . +Spouse UNKNOWN (-) . . . . . . 4-Martin CLOUD (1796-1885) . . . . . . 4-George Washington CLOUD (1798-1858) . . . . . . +Lucinda WALKER (-) . . . . . . 4-Elizabeth CLOUD (1800-) . . . . . . +Spouse CARLIN (-) . . . . . . 4-Lucinda CLOUD (1802-) . . . . . . +Spouse MANSLINE (-) . . . . . . 4-Mary CLOUD (1804-) . . . . . . +Jim RUSSEY, JR. (-) . . . . . . 4-Samuel CLOUD (1806-) . . . . . . +Spouse UNKNOWN (-) . . . . +Nancy VAUGHN (-) . . . . . . 4-Adelline CLOUD (1839-) . . . . . . 4-Washington CLOUD (8 Feb 1842-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <tcloud@austin.rr.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: [CLOUD] Mary Polly Cloud & Comfort Jane Cloud > > Looking for: > > - Mary Polly Cloud m. Joseph (Joel) Mills > > - Comfort Jane Cloud m1 - James Matthew Mills (died in Civil War). > m2 - Holstein > > They all lived in Tennessee. > > Tom > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >
Looking for: - Mary Polly Cloud m. Joseph (Joel) Mills - Comfort Jane Cloud m1 - James Matthew Mills (died in Civil War). m2 - Holstein They all lived in Tennessee. Tom
Tom, Fasinating. I was able to make a copy, too. It's difficult to relate to all that information, however, unless we can find actual examples. Just for general information, you may find this interesting from an arrticulate cousin from way back: He wrote in 1857 from Indiana, "...pork is worth $20 per pound; wheat is only $1.00 corn 50 cts. per bu. oats 60. Coffee and sugar 15 cts per lb." In 1864 he wrote: "....wheat is near $2 - corn 1. Corn meal $1.50 hogs gross 6 to 7 dollars. Beef cattle $5 gross for good quallity. Sheep 4 or 5, horses $150 - coffee 60 - sugar 35 ." In 1876 from Colorado Territory, "Old potatoes are worth $3 per bu.....Beef Steak here 10 to 15 cts per lb, flour 8 to 9 dollars per sack." mary jane battaglia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <tcloud@austin.rr.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:27 AM Subject: [CLOUD] Comparative values of U.S. currency > Please take a look at the page I've posted to allow the comparison > of currency from 1800 to present in the U.S. > http://www.mykindred.com/cloud/TX/Documents/dollar/ > > Let me know if ... > - you have any suggestions > - it looks bad on your computer screen > > BTW, this was prompted, among other things, by the probate of > my 4th-g-grandfather Jeremiah Cloud's will. I wanted to know > about what the things then might cost today (of course, this > is impossible, for something hand-made then is mass-produced > today, and they didn't have antibiotics, etc. > > Take a look also at the accompanying graph -- notice how the > cost of living began its (?exponential?) climb right after WW-II. > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > >
Recently someone posted the obit of Davis Beauregard CLOUD who died at Longview TX 27 Jun 1889 at the age of 27 years. His father was Benjamin Franklin CLOUD, a physician in Webster Co MO shown there in the 1860 census, then in the 1870 census was living in Dallas Co TX, Precinct No. 4, PO Dallas, also listed as physician. His mother was Columbia BOULDIN. Benjamin Franklin CLOUD married Columbia BOULDIN in Webster Co MO 17 Dec 1856. Benjamin Franklin CLOUD was s/o Benjamin CLOUD & Susannah BONDURANT. The elder Benjamin died in Claiborne Co TN in 1842 and Susannah eventually moved with her children to Webster Co MO and was living with son Benjamin Franklin & Columbia in the 1860 census in Webster Co. Imogene Bennett Springfield, MO Imogene.Bennett@att.net