This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/855.1.1.1.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: I know someone who is researching her name (Cloud) and she lives in Corsicana. I will pass this link to her. Thankyou for your responce. Her first name is Barbara.Hopefully she will contact you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/855.1.1.1.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Barbara, All of my immediate ancestors were from Milam county (mostly Rockdale & Cameron), which is about 100 miles South of Corsicana, but there were other Cloud families in Texas also. ... what time period are you talking about? Tom

No Cloud's from TX that I recall. Tom King, Sr.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cloud Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/855.1.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Tom, do you have any Cloud family from around Corsicana, Texas area?

This man served under Captain Joseph Cloud. Ray Shirley Ask me about the Cloud DNA Project rshirley@icx.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Deloris Williams <delwilliams@insightbb.com> > To: <NCGRANVI-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 7/10/2005 4:24:40 AM > Subject: [NCGRANVI] CARTER HUDSPETH/HEDGEPETH-Granville>Surry Counties,NC-Revolutionary Pension File > > CARTER HUDSPETH -Surry County,North Carolina-Revolutionary War Pension > > (Transcribed by Deloris Williams - delwilliams@insightbb.com- from microfilm > copies of M805- Roll 451 - Image 514 - File - S.7058 - > Born in 1747 in Granville County North Carolina , and later moved to Surry > County, North Carolina, according to the Pension application. Sometimes > listed as Hedgepeth, Hedgpeth, Hedgebeth or Headspeth, probably the son of > the person by the same name who was listed on several land records for > 1760 -1762 as living in Granville County, North Carolina, near Fishing > Creek. May have been the chain carrier for Giles Hedgepeth, along with > George Hedgpeth, in 1760. Carter Hedspath, Sr. had land beside Valentine > White near Fishing Creek, in 1761. Carter Hedge Beth was among the signers > of a Petition filed in 1771, from a group of Granville County inhabitants > asking for a repeal of the Act making Free Negroes & Mulatto Women and all > spouses of the same, listed as tythables. There was also a Carter Hedgpeth > in Nansemond County, Virginia, in 1755, who turned up in Granville County, > NC for the first time that same year, probably Carter Hedgepeth, Sr. > Transcribing as is, misspellings included. Notations below enclosed within > square [ ] brackets are mine) > > 12 075 > North Carolina > CARTER HUDSPETH > Of Surry in the State of N. Car. > Who was a Pri in the _______commanded > By Captain ________of the Regt. > Commanded by LYTLE in the N. Car. > Line for 1 year. > > Inscribed on the Roll of N. Carolina > At the rate of 40.00 Dollars ___cents per annum > To commence on the 4th day March 1831 > > Certificate of Pension issued the 22nd day of March > 1833 and sent to JOHN WRIGHT > Hamptonville > > Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 - 80.00 > Semi-annual allowance issued 4 Sept. - 20.00 > --------- > $100.00 > Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 > Recorded by NATHAN RICE, Clerk > Book 3 - Vol - 6 - Page 42 > > 7058 > INVALID > CARTER HUDSPETH > Priv Rev War > Act: June 7, 1832 > Page: 184 > > Brief in the case of CARTER HUDSPETH of Surry County in the State of North > Carolina > Act 7th June, 1832 > > 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Justice of the > Peace > 2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by > bodily infirmity? Yes > 3. How old is he? 84 Years > 4. State his service as directed in the form annexed. > > In 1778 Drafted - Duration: 6 Months - As a: Private - Generals & > Field Officers: GENERAL RUTHERFORD, CAPT. HAPPUM > In 1780 Volunteered - Duration: 3 Months - As a: Private - Officers: COL. > LITLE, MAJOR NELSON, MAJOR NELSON, CAPT. MCLOUD > In 1780 Volunteered - Duration: 3 Months - As a: Private - Officers: WM. > HAITHCOCK, RANGER CAPT BURKE > > 5. In what battles were you engaged? ?Brow Creek? > 6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Surry County, No. Car. > 7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by > traditionary evidence, or by the rolls? One living witness in > part & traditionary > 8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? And if so, in > what respect? ---- > > I certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the > evidence in the case above mentioned. > > [signed] > O.S. -Examining Clerk > > > > CARTER HUDSPETH > North Carolina > No. 5832 > Admd for 12 mos > ??????? $40.00 > ?CAP HEPTED? > COL ?JESSIE? > For? 1778 > NC Militia > Pg 113 > 29 Nov > JOHN WRIGHT > Hamptonvill > NC > ED > > > State of No Ca > Surry County > > On this 23rd day of August in the year of Our Lord One thousand Eight > Hundred and Thirty two. Personally appeared before me JOSIAH COWLES a > Justice of the Peace and a member of the County Court of Surry State of > North Carolina CARTER HUDSPETH a resident of said County aged eighty four > years who first being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the > following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress > passed June 7th 1832- that in or about the month of October in the year 1778 > he was drafted in to the company of North Carolina Militia commanded by > CAPT. JAMES SHEPPARD, LIEUT JOHN DUNLAP, ENSIGN AARON LISBY, that under > their command he marched to the ???????? at Salisbury No. Ca. thence under > the command of GENERAL RUTHERFORD they marched on to ?Purisburgh? on the > Tavana River the army moved by the ?east? of Camden South Carolina on by > Dorchester Smoky Camp at which place our army was cald on for volunteers to > go under COL LITTLE & MAJOR NELSON of the Continental line. We were cald on > for two days. I made one of the no who volunteerd and in sted of two days > was gone two months and our tour had a fatal termination at the Battle of > Briar Creek where the Americans were most shockingly massacred but I had the > fortune to escape by swimming the River with the loss of all army ammunition > & clothing except his hat I then joined GEN RUTHERFORD and term of five > months was gone out but by particular request he volunteered till relieff > should come which was one month longer making in all six months, he was > months back to No. Ca. & then I was virbaly discharged not thinking it was > necessary to have a written one having faithfully served his time the next > time was in the Summer of 1780 when he volunteered as a Ranger under CAPT > CLOUD, LIEUT BLALOCK he were severly employed in keeping down the Tories, > he took several and dispersed them in many places. He performed his tour & > returned home he did apply for a discharge the Tories were very > troublesome and kept us very busy. This tour was for three months. > Shortly after this, soon after the Battle at Guilford C.H. he served three > months under CAPT. BANKS of the Militia. The following answers are made to > the queries as propounded by the Magistrate. The same as sets down in the > directions. > > 1 - I was born in Granville County No. Ca. in the year 1747 > 2d- None but in a family record of my grand Fathers, which is now destroyed > 3 - I lived in Surry County No. Car. & have since lived in Surry > 4 - I was drafted to go to Purisburgh was a volunteer at all other times > 5 - As to the Regular officers I recollect GEN LINCOLN, GEN ELBERT, GEN > WILLIAMSON, GEN BRYANT. BRYANT was at the Battle of Bryce Creek > 6 - I have no recollection of receiving but one discharge, it was for three > months signed by ROBERT BURTON & is cost, I have no documentary evidence. > 7 - To prove his claim as to the veracity & belief as to service he refers > to THO WRIGHT, ZACHARIAH PETTY & Others. > He hereby ??????? an claim whatever to a Pension or Anuity except the > present and declare that his name is not on the Pension roll of any Agency > in any state or teritory Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid > > [signed] > J. COWLES, JP & M.C.C. > > CARTER HUDSPETH > > > We JOHN ANGEL a clergyman residing in Surry County & THOS WRIGHT residing in > the same county hereby certify that we are well acquainted with CARTER > HUDSPETH who has signed the above Declaration that we believe him to be 84 > years of age. That he is reported & believed to have been a soldier of the > Revolution and that we concur in that opinion. Sworn to and subscribed this > day and date first above written. > > [signed] > JOHN ANGEL > T. WRIGHT > > J. COWLES, JP & M.C.C. > > > > > > > And the said magistrate does declare it is his opinion after the > investigation of the matter and putting the investigatories prescribed by > the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary > soldier & served as he states. And further that applicants claim that JOHN > ANGEL who has signed the prescribed certificate is a clergyman and that THO > WRIGHT who had also signed the same is a credible president and both > residents of Surry County and their statement is entitled to credit. > > J. COWLES, JP & M.C..C. > > > > > > > > State No. Ca. > Surry County > > This day came ROBERT HORN [there is a name inserted above, but it is > illegible] before per JOSIAH COWLES, a Justice of the Peace for said county > and made oath in due form of law, that he was in the army of the Revolution > and was in CAPT. SHEPPERD' company of N. Ca. Militia and that CARTER > HUDSPETH who has signed the preceding declaration was in the same company > and they served the whole tours through together. The draft was for 5 > months but they staid 6 months as stated in the declaration. And that they > returned home together & that Pr HUDSPETH did perform thru the whole tour > with honor & that he thinks HUDSPETH was discharged at the same time as > himself but has forgotten it. Sworn to & subscribed this day & date as > above written > > [signed] > ROBERT HORN > J. COWLES JP & M.C.C. > > > I the magistrate is of the opinion that the above named CARTER HUDSPETH > could not without ?spirit? ?????? & inconvenience go to court as he is very > feeble. The distance is 17 miles & very bad roads & dangerous ford across > the Yadkin & no ferry > > [signed] > J. COWLES JP & M.C.C. > > > No. Ca Surry County > JNO REAVES SR. swears that he was in the Company to ?Surry County? And that > he concurs the above affidavit of ROBERT HORN as to the service of CARTER > HUDSPETH. Sworn to as above > > [signed] > > JOHN REAVES > > J.COWLES, JP > > > I JOHN WRIGHT the Clerk of the County Court of Surry County State of North > Carolina do certify that JOSIAH COWLES whose attestating signature appears > to the foregoing is a Justice of the Peace & a member of the County Court of > Surry County and is sworn as mag. And that all due forth credit us & ought > to be given his official acts as such. > Given under my hand & seal of office this 24 day of August 1832 > > [signed] > JOHN WRIGHT CC > North Carolina > Surry County > > This day came CARTER HUDSPETH whose signature is to the foregoing > Declaration and made oath in due form of law before me JOSIAH COWLES one of > the Magistrates of Surry County & a member of the County Court to the > following additional particulary that by reason of bodily infirmity, and the > failure of memory consignant on old age, he cannot be more particular than > set forth in the foregoing declaration. He performed many short tours of > service the particulars of which are forgotten. He is certain of the twelve > months specified. He has no further testimony either oral or documentary > within the reach of his procurements Neither does he know of any other > living witnesses. > Sworn to and subscribed this 15th day of Dec. 1832 before me J.COWLES, > J.P., M.C.C. > > [signed] > CARTER HUDSPETH > > I JOSIAH COWLES a Justice of the Peace of Surry County do hereby certify > that ROBERT HORN & JOHN REAVIS who have certified to the foregoing described > services of CARTER HUDSPETH are both men of fair & impeachable character for > truth. > [signed] > J. COWLES, JP. M.C.C. > > > I JOHN WRIGHT the Clerk of the Court of Surry County do hereby certify that > JOSIAH COWLES whose signature appears to the foregoing certificate & > alteration is a magistrate & a member of the County Court of Surry County & > that all due faith & credit is & right ought to be given to his official > acts as such & further that the above signature are genuine. In testimony > whereof I have affixed my seal of office & subscribed my name officiate this > 15th day of December 1832. > > [signed] > JOHN WRIGHT, CC > > > > Hamptonville > March 33 > > J. L. EDWARDS, ESQUIRE, Commissioner of Pensions > Washington City > > Hamptonville 30 March 1833 > > Sir in the certificate you sent me of C. Hudspeth you will find it enclosed > for correction. If you will examine you will find that the applicant is > Carter Hudspeth and not Charles as stated in the certificate. You will much > oblige an old feeble man C. Hudspeth by returning Certificate with dispatch. > Likewise the applicants named James Anthony, Overton ?Pearce? and the > Reverend John Angel would be gratified to hear from the Department these on > the explanations I sent on in February. > > Very Respectfully, > John Wright > ====================== > > Deloris Williams > > > > ==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== > Granville County List Administrator > Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

IT IS A COMPUTER...WHAT CAN I SAY? SOMETIMES THEY WORK ,SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. I HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS....PLEASE TRY AGAIN.. ----- Original Message ----- From: NanaKip2@aol.com<mailto:NanaKip2@aol.com> To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Vital Records I don't know why I got this email returned to me? Kip Mehring ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .................................................................. Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html<http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html>

At 06:51 AM 7/4/2005, NanaKip2@aol.com wrote: >I don't know why I got this email returned to me? Kip Mehring > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== Kip, the email you responded to was forwarded from the Cloud bulletin board. To respond to the author, you have to post to the bulletin board also. Either click on the link provided in the email or go to the Cloud bulletin board at rootsweb.com. That said, let me add ... 1 - this email forum is protected in that only subscribers may post to it. You're not likely to be exposed to inappropriate emails or to shady offers. 2 - the bulletin board is not protected in that way -- anyone may post to it, so be careful. I am administrator for the Cloud bulletin board. Should you or anyone else notice anything that seems to be suspicious or inappropriate, please notify me. I will remove inappropriate posts from the bulletin board. - I am not familiar with the person who posted that notice. - I am not familiar with what she is offering to do -- I do not know whether it is a valid offer or a scam. You can find vital stats for free at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ they are incomplete and difficult to search http://searches.rootsweb.com/ incomplete and with varying levels of search sophistication You can pay for vital stats at: http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ it has a poor user interface and a poorly designed search interface, but it works. ... about $50 / year I use it and recommend it. (Remember that only a few states are available.) http://adoptionsearching.com/genarc -- these are CD's, I think $99. The search interface is really bad! It is a subset of the data available from vitalsearch above. I don't know whether vitals can be found at ancestry.com or not. If so, they will charge you for them. The message you responded to is copied below: ... once again, I don't know anything about this person or the service they provide .... use your own judgement -- caveat emptor. *** Should you use the service, you might consider reporting back to the list about your experience with it. sincerely, Tom Cloud >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Classification: Query >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/875 >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>Hi, I have recently started a website where people can donated the vital records they have so others can view, download and print them for FREE. >> >>I have recently had an inquiry about this surname. So if anyone has any records they would/could donate please check out the website for details on how to do that. >> >>The more people who donate what they have, the better the odds are of finding a record you need for FREE. >> >>Thank you - Krystal Wilson - Vital Tree >>http://vitaltree.bravehost.com/index.htm >>http://clik.to/vitaltree

I don't know why I got this email returned to me? Kip Mehring

Thank you for your email...I am very interested and do have records on the Cloud name...BUT your email held three addresses included and I do not know which one is for the site you mentioned...please clarify...Kip Mehring/wife of David Cloud Mehring

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/875 Message Board Post: Hi, I have recently started a website where people can donated the vital records they have so others can view, download and print them for FREE. I have recently had an inquiry about this surname. So if anyone has any records they would/could donate please check out the website for details on how to do that. The more people who donate what they have, the better the odds are of finding a record you need for FREE. Thank you - Krystal Wilson - Vital Tree http://vitaltree.bravehost.com/index.htm http://clik.to/vitaltree

Hi Kathy...am a little slow in reacting, but I have been searching the 1910 census with no luck thus far. Am curious as to why you think they are in Tennessee during that period. Would appear based on the 1920 census you show that their first child was born between 1910 and 1911 and she was born in Missouri. I have been querying for Homer born MO in all states; Cloud, soundex, born in MO. So far no luck. Must not have yet found the right "key" (or he eluded the census takers). Maybe when ancestry.com has it indexed by individual, we might be able to find Lorna. Thus far, they only have it indexed by HOH. Lura

Alexandria Town Talk, Alexandria, Louisiana Carl Evans Cloud Funeral services for Mr. Carl Evans Cloud will be held at 2 p.m. Monday, June 20, 2005 in Trinity Baptist Church, Oakdale with Reverend Tony Robinson officiating. Interment will follow in Oakhill Cemetery under the direction of Rush Funeral Home, Oakdale. Mr. Cloud, 59 of Oakdale passed away with his family by his side, after a long battle with lung cancer on Saturday, June 18, 2005 in Rapides Regional Medical Center. He was preceded in death by his parents, Tullay and Euna Cloud. He was owner operator of Carl Cloud Construction, a member of Trinity Baptist Church and a good friend to everyone. He is survived by his loving wife of thirteen years, Sondra Atkinson Cloud of Oakdale; three sons, Ricky Cloud and his wife, Denise of Oakdale, Cody Cloud of North Carolina and Aaron Cloud of Oakdale; three daughters, Dana Cloud of Oakdale, Jackie Alexander and her husband, Brad of North Carolina and Michelle Cloud of North Carolina; one stepson, Dustin Doyle of Pineville; four brothers, Mickey Cloud and his wife, Elaine of Elizabeth, Travis Cloud of Oakdale, Troy Cloud and his wife, Marilyn of Ponca City, Oklahoma and Donald Cloud and his wife, Melinda of Justin, Texas; three sisters, Ersa Welch of Oakdale, June Lee Thompson and her husband, Tommy of Mesquite, Texas and Sybil Vessels of Garlin, Texas; twelve grandchildren and his best friend, Richard "Ike" Welch of Oakdale. Friends may call at Trinity Baptist Church, Oakdale from 8 a.m. until time of service on Monday, June 20, 2005.

this was posted to another rootsweb forum ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:47:53 -0600 From: Cooking0404@aol.com Source: PIERSON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thomas Pierson In a message dated 6/20/2005 5:00:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, PIERSON-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: _RHamman209@aol.com_ (mailto:RHamman209@aol.com) Janet there are 4 Thomas PIERSON's in my Tree.. Here is what I have: 1. Thomas PIERSON (son of Joseph PIERSON and Mary TUCKNISS) b. 18May1761 m 19 Mar 1796 Sarah CLOUD 2, Thomas & Sarah had a child Thomas PIERSON b.10 Oct 1799 m. Martha Wilson 3. Thomas & Sarah also had a grand son named Thomas: Thomas Ralston PIERSON b. Jun 1831( son of Thomas & Mary's son Samuel W & his wife Mary Elizabeth FOOTE) I have no spouse or other information on this grandson. 4. Thomas & Sarah also had a great great grandson named Thomas: Thomas B. PIERSON (son of Frank B. PIERSON & Ethel (unknown ) b 21 Aug 1911 m. before or around 1930. Mabel J. BROWN ( he is the great great grandson of Thomas PIERSON & Sarah CLOUD , son of Frank B. PIERSON & wife Ethel (unknown).. Frank B. PIERSON is the son of Nelson John PIERSON and wife Sarah A. WOODWARD, Nelson is the son of Laban PIERSON & wife Mary Ann GREGG, Laban is the son of Thomas PIERSON & wife Sarah H. CLOUD ( Laban PIERSON is the Brother of the Thomas PIERSON married to Martha WILSON & also the brother of Samuel W. PIERSON married to Mary Elizabeth FOOTE. Does this fit into your family? Hope this helps. Take care. Vickie

this was posted to an alternate rootsweb forum ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:49:23 -0600 From: Sue Jones <jonessh@swbell.net> Source: HANCOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: William Hancock of Campbell Co., TN http://www.tngenweb.org/campbell/hist-bogan/hancock.html FRANK IRWIN, WILLIAM HANCOCK BECAME FIRST SETTLERS OF WALNUT GROVE (TN), BETWEEN RIVERS By Dallas Bogan Reprinted with Permission from Dallas Bogan. This article was published in the LaFollette Press. The settling of Walnut Grove in Campbell County, between the Powell and Clinch rivers, began many years ago. In the 1770's no white man had ever set foot between the rivers or had seen what is now called Walnut Grove unless it was the longhunters from North Carolina. An assumption of the name Walnut Grove possibly came from the many walnut trees surrounding the area. Historians claim that the Indians called the Clinch River "Turkey River" or "Pellissippi." Years before the Revolutionary War, Frank Irwin and a younger brother crossed the mountains of North Carolina, now Tennessee. They both took part in the Battle of Kings Mountain, a very decisive encounter for the Continental Army. It should be noted that Frank could have possibly fired the deadly bullet into the body of General Ferguson, the only Englishman. Frank's brother was possibly killed in this battle. After the Land Grab Act, about 1789, Frank Irwin and WILLIAM HANCOCK ventured west among the Indians and the wild animals. They arrived on the Holston River and then pressed forward to Big Valley where Frank met and married Nellie Lyons. In this area Frank purchased 1,000 acres, possibly from the Indians. While on a hunting venture one day, Frank forded the Clinch River and found the valley between the rivers, Walnut Grove. Frank and William Hancock became the first settlers, each buying 500 acres of land and building shelters or huts about 1 1/2 miles apart. Frank gave a filly and a rifle for his share of the purchase. William built his homestead on Powell River, which later became the home of Henry Irwin. (See website for rest of story -- see new story below) Information from this article was extracted with permission from Dr. Miller McDonald's book Campbell County Tennessee USA: A History of Places, Faces, Happenings, Traditions, and Things, Vol. 1. http://www.tngenweb.org/campbell/history/county.html The first settlers to the Campbell County area were the Cherokee Indians who made their reservations at the present-day sites of Caryville, La Follette, and Well Springs and other small communities. Throughout the 1700s, the white settlers began trickling into the area and establishing their roots. The first major white settlement in the area was established in 1783 when Thomas Henderson procured a tract of 200,000 acres of land from North Carolina (this grant was awarded July 7, 1794 by the state of North Carolina and is recorded as Grant Number 252). This tract of land included a large portion of Campbell County. As more and more white settlers settled into the Indian occupied territory, numerous bloody battles erupted between the two groups of people. The last of the Indians were chased across the Cumberland Mountains, and the chief of the tribe was killed near the Campbell County line in Kentucky. On September 11, 1806, the Tennessee State legislature passed an act allowing the creation of Campbell County from parts of Anderson and Claiborne Counties. Campbell County was created "on account of the large extent of the counties of Anderson and Claiborne rendering it grievous and burdensome to many inhabitants of the Clinch River to attend court, general matters, elections and other public meetings." Campbell County was named for Colonel Arthur Campbell, a soldier of the Revolutionary and Indian Wars. The act to establish Campbell County appointed James Grant, WILLIAM HANCOCK, Jacent Cloud, Robert Glenn, Richard Linville, Sampson David, and John Inglish as commissioners to set up and select the county seat. There were three locations selected as potential spots for the county seat: Grantsboro, Big Creek Gap (later called La Follette), and Walnut Cove (later called Jacksboro). The commissioners favored different localities and could not reach an agreement on which to select. At the convening of the General Assembly in 1807, these commissioners had failed in their task. On November 30, the General Assembly passed an amendment to the original act: "Whereas, the commissioners appointed by the aforesaid act have omitted to perform the duties thereby enjoined on them." It then appointed the following men as new commissioners: Thomas Murray, Robert Glenn, Sampson David, John English, John Yount, James Rice, and John Newman. On January 20, 1808, Colonel Hugh Montgomery deeded 60 acres to the new commissioners for setting up a new town called Jacksborough, named in honor of Andrew Jackson, President of the United States. Jacksborough became the county seat for Campbell County. The first deed recorded in Campbell County was from Thomas Campbell to Henry Carlock for 500 acres, and the first will recorded was for David Haley.

this was posted to an alternate rootsweb forum ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:59:17 -0600 From: Charlotte Coats <coats@hotmail.com> Source: COATES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: FW: Re: [COATES-L] RE: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates ----Original Message Follows---- From: "brenden1mom2001" <MOMANN1@AOL.com> Reply-To: Coates_Coate_Coats@yahoogroups.com To: Coates_Coate_Coats@yahoogroups.com Subject: FW: Re: [COATES-L] RE: [Coates_Coate_Coats] My Coates Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:51:29 -0000 Don't think they are the same a Cleminsons, but will look further, thank you for your help. I found the following ,Just posting incase someone else can use it: James Clemson 1654-1718 compiled and written by Paulette Haynes August, 1985 Records for James Clemson in America are limited although his origin in England was apparently at Tettanhall, Staffordshire Parish, England. His christening was recorded there on 10 Aug 1654 and he was the son of Alexander and Elizabeth (Green) Clemson who married 27 September 1652. James Clemson's first marriage to Katherine Wright, of Dudley, was recorded 22 Nov 1682 and the christening at Tettenhall for several of their children followed. James and Katherine Clemson also appear in the register of Dudley parish in 1697/98. Hannah "Clempson" daughter of "James Clempson" was christened 3 Aug 1692. The parish church of Tettenhall is St. Michael & All Angels and the registers begin in the year 1602 (see note). The first record in America for James Clemson is a 13 Oct 1699 deed to him, a blacksmith, for 4 acres and 2 lots near the town of Chichester, on the Delaware River, now called Marcus Hook. By 1702, he moved several miles inland to a one hundred thirty-five acres farmstead property at Booth's Corners, and in 1710 purchased a three hundred acres tract on the Bethel-Concord township line in Chester County, Pennsylvania from the heirs of William Cloud. On 18 May 1716 he acquired a patent of 600/636 acres in Salisbury Twp, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Five hundred acres of this was a grant to him and the other one hundred was sold to him by William Lewis. An additional 36 acres was a road allowance. On 1 Jun 1716 James Clemson made a trust deed to his daughter Mary Guest (wife of Henry Guest), of the 300 acres farm in Concord Twp. with the conditional grantee Sophia Clemson, a daughter, of five pounds, if Sarah "now the wife of James", to be cared for by Mary and her husband Henry through illness as long as she lived, did not live 5 years. It is evident by this trust deed that in 1716 James Clemson was married to a woman named Sarah. James Clemson wrote his will 12 July 1718 in Philadelphia and at this time he was married to the widow Joan Coates. The will was probated in Philadelphia, August 1718. It is often stated that James Clemson was buried in the Quaker Cemetery in Philadelphia but that apparently cannot be verified. James Clemson bequeathed to his three sons (John, James & Thomas) 536 of the 636 acres in Lancaster County on which he had obtained a patent in 1716. He bequeathed to his daughter Sophia 39 pounds in bonds after the death of his wife Joan who had the life interest on the bonds. His eldest daughter, Mary, was not mentioned in his will because he had given his 300 acre Concord Twp. property to her and her husband Henry by a trust deed dated 1 June 1716. Hannah and her sister Rebecca were not mentioned in the will having been given 50 acres each of the patent land, in Salisbury Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. This gift was made between June 1716, when he acquired the patent and July 1718, when he wrote his will. The heirs of James Clemson agreed to the division of the 636 acres, in quit claim deeds dated 26 Mar 1731 (the second day of 1731). At this time, Hannah Clemson was married to Joseph Haynes, a yeoman "of the province of West Jersey". On 6 October 1731, Hannah Haynes declared she signed the deed of her own free will, and her fifty acres of property was sold by Joseph and Hannah Haynes "of West New Jersey" to her brother, John Clemson in 1733. On the 15th of May 1742 Joseph Haynes acknowledged having received the sum of ten pounds for the land and being "fully satisfied". Children of James Clemson (who lived to adulthood ; several were of the Quaker faith): 1. Mary Clemson christened 8 Mar 1685 Tettenhall, Staffordshire Parish, England married Henry Guest 2. Hannah Clemson christened 3 Aug 1692 Tettenhall, Straffordshire Parish, England married Joseph Haynes. The Clemson family history contains no further record of Hannah and Joseph Haynes. Burial places and death dates for them have not yet been found, and their children, if any are not known. 3. John Clemson born ca 1701 Pennsylvania married (1) Mary Elliott and (2) Elizabeth Way 4. James Clemson (2nd son) born Pennsylvania married Mary Halliday. 5. Rebecca Clemson married Dennis Onan 6. Sophia Clemson born 1705 Pennsylvania married William Sawyer of Derry Twp. Lancaster Co. PA 7. Thomas Clemson (3rd son) born before 1710 Pennsylvania married Elizabeth Strode * The parish register of the parish church of St Michael & All Angels commences in 1602. The original registers for the period 1602-1968 (Bapts), 1602-1948 (Mar) & 1602-1946 (Bur), and Banns for the period 1754-1799 are deposited at Staffordshire Record Office. Bishops Transcripts, 1687-1859 (with gaps 1692-96, 1699-1715, 1717- 1800, & 1837) are deposited at Lichfield Record Office. A transcript of the St Michael & All Angels registers for the periods (part 1) 1602-1744, and (part 2) 1745-1839 (Mar) was published in 1930 and 1967 by the Staffordshire Parish Register Society and has been reprinted by the Birmingham & Midland SGH.

this was posted to an alternate rootsweb forum ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:49:13 -0600 From: "tdgx4leeds@juno.com" <tdgx4leeds@juno.com> Source: TNCLAIBO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Frank James, Friend of Benjamin Schultz I'm from Missouri, not far from where the James Brothers are from so I have an interest in them and was curious when I ran across suggestions of them having Claiborne Connections as well. My Mother is from the Evans family from Tazwell. Here is what I found. Also, in a book I checked out from the local library on the James Family (A genealogy type book) I believe Schultz or someone from Claiborne County, TN built a house here in MO near the James and they ended up with it. KCMO MAILTO:"JPAYNE5744@AOL.COM"JPayne5744@aol.com Subj: Frank & Jesse James Date: 11/3/00 1:32:28 PM Eastern Standard Time From: ShariBen@aol.com To: JPayne5744 Hi Joe, I was just browsing through your website to see what's been updated. I noticed that you had a link for the Outlaw Jesse Woodson James. I didn't know if you would be interested or not, but in my search on the Shultz family I came across a story of Frank James coming to Tazewell, TN to visit Benjamin Franklin Shultz. [Benjamin Frankin Shultz b. February 12, 1842 was the son Jacob Shultz Jr. & Louisanna Cloud] (Source: "Chadwell Heritage: A Family History" by Mary Wolfinbarger Braun and Sharon Chadwell Phillips, page 165) FRANK JAMES VISITS BENJAMIN SCHULTZ AT TAZEWELL IN 1875 An interesting sidelight on the life of Benjamin Schultz was his friendship with Frank James, the notorious Missouri outlaw, and brother of Jesse James. Benjamin and Frank served under General Price in the confederate Army, both drove ordinance wagons in some battles. Before that Frank James had ridden with Quatrell's men. It would have been a strange friendship, on the surface -- Benjamin Schultz being an honorabel and high principled man, of unusual intelligence, but, on looking deeper in the family history, we find that they were bound by family ties as well as friendship. The parents of Jesse and Frank James were known to have been highly respectable people -- Mrs. James being from a good Kentucky family, the Shacklefords. Dr. Gabriel Shackleford came down from Kentucky and married Benjamin Schultz' aunt, Nancy M. Cloud in Tazewell, Tennessee. Dr. Shackleford was an esteemed physician and citizen of Tazewell until his wife's death and he went to Missouri. Nancy Cloud's sister married a Norfleet, whose family also married into the Shackleford family. But a close family tie was Benjamin's sister's marriage to W. S. Norfleet in Springfield, Missouri. W.S. Norfleet was a son of David Norfleet and Elizabeth Shackleford. That Benjamin and Frank James' friendship survived the War is revealed in Dr. Robert L. Kincaid's book, "The Wilderness Road." In a chapter describing a hanging in Tazewell on August 23, 1875, Kincaid writes that there was a crowd of people gathered to see the hanging of a convicted murderer, estimated to be between five and six thousand people -- men and women and children. Kincaid opines that if the people had known it, their attention to a well built, bronzed, man with steel gray eyes would have vied with the interest of seeing a man hanged. For that man in the crowd was Frank James who had accidentally fallen in with a company of riders, and with his companion, George Shepard, had arrived in Tazewell to visit his old companion of the Confederate Army, Benjamin Schultz. The steely eyed James had given a native a five dollar gold piece to find him a good seat. In 1893 when Frank James was a member of the St. Louis Police Force, he went to Nashville to seek information about the death of his old chieftain, William Clarke Quantrill, who was killed in Kentucky during the close of the Civil War. At that time he told Nashville friends that it was a quiet interim in the careers of him and his brother Jesse, that took him to Tazewell. It was easy for a man to hide himself in the wild Kentucky hills where men still lived much as they wished. Information from Daily Press and Knoxville Herald August 15, 1875. Also Knoxville Messenger, August 18, 1875. Also interviews with eye witnesses. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :)shari Chandler, AZ http://members.fortunecity.com/shariben/ http://members.aol.com/shariben/ From the notes of Descendents of Jacob Shultz Thanks to Jim Shults, Knoxville, Tennessee and Roy Shultz, Greenville, Texas Eliza's father, Thomas Johnson, came to Claiborne County from Mobile, Alabama about 1840 and married Eliza J. Graham, whose father, Dr. Andrew Graham, had been a surgeon in the British Navy. Thomas Johnson was later in the Confederate Army during the Civil War. Eliza's sister, Mary, married Alexander Cloud. Benjamin was a Confederate veteran of the Civil War. He moved to Missouri with his parents in the late 1850's. After the War he went to Navarro Co, Texas where he hauled freight between Millican and Dallas for about two years. In 1868 he returned to Tazewell, TN. For a number of years he was engaged in the mercantile business, as his father had been. He was Postmaster at Cumberland Gap, TN in 1894. Benjamin was a close friend of Frank James, brother of Jesse. He and Frank served together in the Confederate Army and both drove ordinance wagons. In August 1875 Frank came to Tazewell to visit with his old friend, Benjamin. The book "800 Missouri Families" 4 Vols, Feb 1989, by Don Vincent, Volume 3, page 16 has a small article by one Milburn Divine. He writes of Benjamin: "He was a Capt. in [the same] Confederate Cavalry troop in Missouri in which both Frank and Jesse James were members. Schultz built "Meadow Hill" house and farm here Frank and Jesse came when wanted in Missouri. Schultz sold "Meadow Hill" to Dr. John W. Divine (an ancestor of the Milburn Divine writing the article...jrs) and old papers found in the garrett over the kitchen in this house in 1954 confirm the Schultz-James story."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/874.1.1 Message Board Post: Interesting - any idea as to the source of this information? And how would one obtain a copy of this journal?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/874.1 Message Board Post: In the Cloud Family Journals Vol IX-3, pg 17 there is a marriage of Emphesia Cloud to Charles McFarling on that date in Fredericks Co. VA. I can find nothing further on them. Ken Cloud www.cloudweb.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/874 Message Board Post: Has anyone run across a Euphemia Cloud? There is a Frederick County, VA marriage reference to Euphemia Cloud marrying Charles McFarland 10 Dec 1824 - and no further information about either of them.

I am trying to contact a Pamela? Robinson, who old Prodigy address was HKNB02B. Any helpappreciated. Ken Cloud