I have been tracking down Clouds in Americus, Sumter Co., Georgia. It seems that's where allot of Elijah Cloud's (Macon Co., GA) descendants settled. On these marriages, I assume W W Cloud is Elijah's son William who I find there in the censuses and he dies there in 1922. I don't have a clue who these other guys are. Cloud, Dock married Sims, Berta >29 Mar 1920 18 39 Cloud, J H married Bass, Nellie 12 Jul 1884 6 377 Cloud, John married Harris, Harriett 17 Apr 1885 8 347 Cloud, W W married Dupree, Alice G 3 Dec 1882 6 357 Any ideas? Thanks, Sharon McChrystal

This is good information ... read on ..................... From: "sanndy kelly" <SandyKelly@worldnet.att.net> Date: October 4, 2005 11:11:52 PM EDT To: VAFLOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Good site A fellow in a genealogy class I take wrote the following and sent it to our classmates in an e-mail. I am sending it on to you folks because it is very useful and he wrote it well. Hope it helps some of you. Sandy the LDS Family History Library has announced that it has begun the process of digitizing and making available on the Internet all of the Family History books in their collection. These are primarily books in the "929.273 Series" that are currently housed on the first floor of the Family History Library (previously housed on the fourth floor of the Joseph Smith Memorial Building). At the present time (September 2005), about 5000 books have been digitized and are available, and they have announced that they are adding about 100 titles a week to the on-line collection. Copyright issues are playing a role in determining the order in which they progress through this task; books out of copyright are being done first. As these Family History books are digitized and placed on-line, an entry is being placed in the Family History Library on-line catalog with a hyperlink to the digitized image. By going to the FHL On-Line Catalog, you can search for a specific name, find a book that has been indexed using the name, and view it on-line, flipping through the pages as separate "pdf" images, much the same as if you were on the first floor of the Family History Library. Of course, the indexing that is available through the FHL Catalog is only as good as the human indexers made it; typically they only include the "top" 4 to 6 names that appear in each book in their indexing efforts. But there is even better news! The digitized images of these Family History books are actually being stored on the electronic servers at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah. By going directly to the BYU web site to view the images, there are several additional possibilities that provide genealogists functionality that they have never had before. You are now able to do full-text searches on each book, and on every digitized book in the collection. Now you can locate the small two- paragraph entry on Grandpa Ebnezer McGarrah that is buried in one of the Family History books that you would have otherwise never thought to look at before. This can open up a huge new possibility for extending lines, getting past brick walls, and uncovering new relatives! How to Find The Digitized Images? Go to the web site of the Harold B. Lee Library at BYU at http://lib.byu.edu and on their home page, follow the links "Find Other Materials/Electronic/On Line Collections at BYU". Click on the "Text Collections" tab and select the "Family History Archive" from the list of collections that are displayed. You would then normally want to use the "Search All" feature with the "Search Full Text" box checked, although the "Advanced Search" will allow very high-powered searches that will allow certain phrases to be searched for and other words to be used to exclude potential hits. As you make selections from the "hits" that are displayed, you will need to use the "Click Here to View Item" button near the top of the screen to display the actual image of the page. You can page through the entire document using the index displayed on the left side of the screen. Each page may be printed after being viewed. One interesting sidelight is, when you are at the first web page for the Family History Archive (the page that lets you begin a search), click on the "Browse the Collection" button. This will display every Family History book that has been digitized and is available in the collection. You can scroll through this list much the same as if you were walking up and down the stacks at the library. At the top of the first page of the search results, it displays the number of hits, which (in this case) is the number of books in the collection. If you keep track of this number, you can get a pretty good idea of how fast they are adding titles to the collection as you revisit the web site from time to time. I think you will want to visit this site often as the collection grows!

I also have Albert Cloud b 1916/17 Al to William T. Cloud and Gussie and that line goes back to Jeremiah unconnected . Goes thru Thomas Newton Cloud, William Cloud & Margaret Frizzle, to Jeremiah. I have no notes on the origin of the data there. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <tcloud@austin.rr.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 08 October, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Albert Louis "Bill" Cloud (1916-1981) > > I'm looking for any info on Albert Louis "Bill" Cloud. > > He was born in Alabama in 1916 and died in California in 1981. > His SSN is from OK, so he must have lived there after 1936. > > Albert went by the nickname "Bill". He had two sisters, Athias, > b. ca 1914, and Martha, b. 1918/1919, both b. AL. I know nothing > of them other than the census info. > > His parents were William T. Cloud (1875 AL- aft 1920) of > Montgomery cty, AL and Gussie W. Money. They are on the > 1910 and 1920 census of Montgomery cty. > > His grandfather money was William Thomas "Tom" Money b. 1854 AL > and Tom's wife Sarah J. He had an aunt Carrie Money who was > born 1891 in AL. (Carrie and Gussie, his mother, had a brother > named Reuben who died prior to the 1910 census.) Carrie was > living with Bill and his family in 1920, so his grandparents > Money may have died by that time. > > Bill is my 2nd cousin twice removed, the g-g-grandson of "my" > Jeremiah Cloud (1784 GA - 1861 TX). He is the grandson of Thomas > Newton Cloud (1843-1915) and Martha Pugh, who lived their lives > in Bullock and Montgomery cty, AL. > > I would really, really like to find out if Bill had any children, > and especially sons, so I can recruit them for our dna project. > His line is the last male line of Thomas Newton Cloud of Alabama. > His uncle James Wesley Cloud's male line died with James' son > Lonnie (1922-1972), Bill's first cousin, died in San Francisco. > > (I will send a second email asking for information on Lonnie, for > we don't know whether he ever married or not, either.) > > The info for Bill Cloud's family is on-line at the URL below > (his sisters are shown as "Living" ... that will be corrected > at the next update.) > http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I15560&tree=mykindred01 > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ > >

A Williamson county, Texas researcher, Pam Cain, contacted me with questions about a school photo -- she thinks they are Cloud boys she lived near. The pictures are at: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/pictures/unknown/pcain.htm This regards the sons of Stephen Ross Cloud http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I78310&tree=mykindred01 There are pictures in the database of his sons Leroy Carl Cloud, who died in WW-II, and an obit & photo of his brother, Ross Cloud. sincerely, Tom Cloud

I'm looking for any info on Albert Louis "Bill" Cloud. He was born in Alabama in 1916 and died in California in 1981. His SSN is from OK, so he must have lived there after 1936. Albert went by the nickname "Bill". He had two sisters, Athias, b. ca 1914, and Martha, b. 1918/1919, both b. AL. I know nothing of them other than the census info. His parents were William T. Cloud (1875 AL- aft 1920) of Montgomery cty, AL and Gussie W. Money. They are on the 1910 and 1920 census of Montgomery cty. His grandfather money was William Thomas "Tom" Money b. 1854 AL and Tom's wife Sarah J. He had an aunt Carrie Money who was born 1891 in AL. (Carrie and Gussie, his mother, had a brother named Reuben who died prior to the 1910 census.) Carrie was living with Bill and his family in 1920, so his grandparents Money may have died by that time. Bill is my 2nd cousin twice removed, the g-g-grandson of "my" Jeremiah Cloud (1784 GA - 1861 TX). He is the grandson of Thomas Newton Cloud (1843-1915) and Martha Pugh, who lived their lives in Bullock and Montgomery cty, AL. I would really, really like to find out if Bill had any children, and especially sons, so I can recruit them for our dna project. His line is the last male line of Thomas Newton Cloud of Alabama. His uncle James Wesley Cloud's male line died with James' son Lonnie (1922-1972), Bill's first cousin, died in San Francisco. (I will send a second email asking for information on Lonnie, for we don't know whether he ever married or not, either.) The info for Bill Cloud's family is on-line at the URL below (his sisters are shown as "Living" ... that will be corrected at the next update.) http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I15560&tree=mykindred01 thanks, Tom Cloud

----- Original Message ----- From: <JOJOVERN1@MSN.COM> > ===================================================================== > A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this > search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > ===================================================================== > Source: NCRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: What is the relationship between the Coad/Coode family, the > Combs family and the Cloud and Underwood > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Coode,Cude,Combs,Cloud,Underwood > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kUB.2ACE/1943 > > Message Board Post: > > 1784 Thomas Coode Surry Co. NC-----This appears to be a son of Thomas > Coad/Coode (1728)----What is the relationship between the Coad/Coode > family, the Combs family and the Cloud and Underwood families?------James > Dunbar was the half brother of the Coad children as Ann (Blackistone) Coad > married second, John Dunbar, Jr. James Dunbar died in 1750: ---Will of > James Dunbar, SMC 7/1/1750-9/24/1750. Father: John, use of negroes. Niece: > Henrietta Guibert, negroes George and Hannah after the death of my father > and "Timberneck" now in the possession of Thomas Underwood. To: John Coad, > son of John negroes Nessy and Nell after my father's death. Exec: Father, > John Dunbar. Wit: James Dickson, John Somerville, John > Guibert----Elizabeth (Coode?) Cloud Sex: F Birth: 14 OCT 1711 in Chester > Co., PA. ---Marriage 1 Thomas Underwood b: BET 1714 AND 1725 in > PA. --Married: 5 AUG 1738 in PA. - Kennet Monthly Meeting (Quaker) > 26 Dec 1749 Frederick Co, VA DB2:80. [Lease] Jeremiah CLOUD of Frederick > County planter to Henry HARDIN of County aforesaid... Grant lease to farm > Lett... all that tract of land joining to Jeremiah CLOUDS plantation... > from the River to the Waggon Road ... term of ten years... agree to pay > sd. Jeremiah CLOUD Five hundred weight of Cropp Tobacco Yearly during the > sd. Term of Ten Years. s/Jeremiah CLOUD. Wits: Marquis CALMES, Rebuen > PAXON, Tho. WOOD. Rec. 13 Feb 1749. (Extracted from Frederick Co, VA Deed > Book Series Volume 1, Deed Books 1,2,3,4, 1743-1758, Abstracted, Amelia C. > Gilreath, Nov 1989, by Combs Researcher Carole Hammet who adds: no release > found.)Notes: Henry HARDIN m bef 1741, Wilmoth GEORGE, d/o Nicholas > GEORGE. They were residing in Overwharton Parish, Stafford Co, VA when > daughter, Wilmouth, was b 14 Apr 1741, and their son, Nicholas, 6 Jul > 1743. Their daughter, Nancy, m John Combs, Sr., s/o Mason & Sarah Combs, > Sr. Both Henry and Wilmouth died testate in Shen! > andoah Co, VA, with each naming their daughter, Nancy Combs. --Thomas > Coad/Coode could have met Susanna Arnold very easily as King George Co. > VA. is almost directly across the Potomac River from where the > Coode/Coad’s lived. The relationship between the Combs and Coode > families goes back to Thomas Gerrard and Philip COMBE. Dr. Thomas GERARD'S > overseer was Philip COMBE, who arrived in St. Mary's County, Maryland, in > 1664. Philip claimed 150 acres, later identified as Combs Purchase in > Charles Co. MD. When John Combs died in 1716/17 in Richmond (King George > Co.) County, he named his wife, Hannah Combs, and one John ANDERSON > co-executors, but in Nov 1721, John ANDERSON died, too: > At a Court held for King George County the first day of December 1721: The > last Will and Testament of John ANDERSON, deceased, was presented into > Court by William BROWNE his Executor who made oath thereto and the same > being proved by the oaths of Isaac ARNOLD, William PULLEN and William > HARVEY witnesses thereto subscribed as the instance of the said Executor > is admitted to Record--My Will and Desire is that whatsoever I am justly > indebted to Mason Combs be paid unto him. Thomas Coode’s father-in-law > and John Combs were connected in some way. Mason Combs and Thomas Coode > certainly knew each other. Isaac Arnold is involved in another will for > the Combs family---.06 Jun 1735 (King George Inventory Book, 1721-1744, > pp. 195-6) Inventory of the Estate of Archdell Combs deced .. items valued > and totalled, L 24.13.7 .. made by Isaac ARNOLD, Thos. GOUGH, Thos. > DICKESON (The Gough name could have been Goffe or Coode)---Mason Combs > appears to have traveled with Thomas Coode and! > they were neighbors in Rowan Co. NC.-Thomas GOFF Sex: M Birth: ABT 1728 > Death: 1782--Father: Thomas GOFF b: AFT 1656 --Mother: Margaret ARNOLD b: > ABT 1671--Marriage 1 Sarah Mrs Thomas GOFF b: BEF > 1728 --Children --William Goff GOUGH b: ABT 1716 in Stafford County, West > Virginia USA---Marriage 2 Hannah CHADWELL b: ABT 1743 --Children ----James > GOFF b: 6 MAR 1770 in Surrey County, North Carolina USA --John GOFF b: > AFT 1770 > > Mary Coode/Cude 24 Apr 1766 Frederick, MD, USA- Spouse: Tidence Cloud > Lane --- Sarah (Coode/Cude) Could-- Spouse: Philip Mose Marriage Date: 15 > Aug 1779 Baltimore Maryland --If the marriage records above are right, > Timothy Coode/Cude’s first daughter (Mary) was born in Apr. 24 1766 and > he spent time in Maryland before settling in NC. In 1779.--TIMOTHY > (Coode/Cude) COOD: Randolph Co. NC Township: Tax List Year: 1779 > Database: NC Early Census Index ---How many wives did Timothy Have? Did he > have more than one? Timothy (Coode/Cude) Code Township: Not Stated County: > Randolph State: North Carolina Year: 1790 Roll: M637_7 Page: 98 > Image:0163--Elizabeth Massey, Spouse: (?) Coad-Marriage Date: 01 Dec > 1766-King George Co. Virginia---Note the King George Co. VA. Timothy > Masey: Guilford Co. North Carolina Year: 1790 Roll: M637_7 Page: 152 > Image: 0285 --- Were these relatives of Timothy Many of their cousins > moved to the same area. Randolph Co. was formed from Rowan Co-.Th! > ere is a 7 year gap between Mary and William. There would be about 25 > years from his first to last child. Mary Jane Cude F 1768 in Randolph Co. > NC, - William A Cude M 2 Apr 1773 in Randolph Co. NC, - Sarah Cude F 1774 > in Randolph Co. NC, - John Horner Cude M 1776 in Randolph Co. NC, - Mary > Ann Cude F 1778 in Randolph Co. NC, Elizabeth Cude F 1780 in Randolph Co. > NC, - Timothy Cude M 30 Mar 1782 in Randolph Co. NC, - Lydia Cude F 1784 > in Randolph Co. NC, - Sylvania Cude F 1786 in Randolph Co. NC, - James > Cude M 1788 in Randolph Co. NC, > William (Coode?) CLOUD Sex: M Birth: 1700 in Frederick Co., Va. Death: JUN > 1791 in East Marlbourgh, Chester Co., Penn. Fact 1: See Note Page Note: > Facts about this person: Burial June 19, 1791-East Marlbourgh, Chester > Co., Penn. > Father: WILLIAM COODE? B: 1677 St.Marys Co. Maryland > Mother: Elizabeth Ann HAYES b: 11 FEB 1692/93 in Fulwell, Oxfordshire, > England > Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown --Married: WFT Est. > 1719-1751--Children --Jeremiah CLOUD b: WFT Est. 1721-1750--Marriage 2 > Mary PIERCE b: 3 MAR 1716/17 --Married: 24 AUG 1739 in East Marlbourgh, > Chester Co., Penn.--- A Pierce Codey was listed in the household of a > Thomas (Coode) Coody in 1748 in Lunenburg Co. VA . A reasonable > interpretation of this entry, taken in isolation, would be that Thomas was > head of the household, at least 21 years of age, thus born before 1727, > with his (brother or cousin? We have no idea what their relationship was, > but they tended to travel together at times.) Pierce. This was the year > that we believe Timothy T Cude/Coode was born in.---1748 Tax List of John > Phillips > > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/885 Message Board Post: I am trying to find info on a Martha Cloud or McCloud who was born in England about 1890. She lived in West Virginia or possibly Kentucky & married a Lenard Miller (b 12-1889 in WVA & d about 1984 in Kermit WVA) They had several children one of whom was Fred Miller. I believe that Martha died in WVA as well. If any one knows of this line I would be eager to learn more

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CLOUD Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/884 Message Board Post: CLOUD_Irene_Mary_1914-1985.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Abiding Love Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 125,634 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/883 Message Board Post: I recently found a letter in my mother's possession. The letter was from Amy Cloud to her relative, Mrs. Harry Brandenburg who lived at 919 N. 4th St., Arkansas City, Kansas in 1957. Amy wrote about her 3 sons: Ray Cloud born Feb. 3, 1943: Richard Cloud born Apr. 12, 1946; Marvin Cloud born Jan. 4, 1953. This family lived in New Pine Creek, OR. at that time. I am a third cousin to these brothers and hope to make contact with them as soon as possible. I can be e-mailed directly at: iamearthangel77@yahoo.com Joan Endsley

Be aware that the genealogy / family history scams are still out there. Check out "The Genealogy Hall of Shame" ... http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame/morphcorp.htm I assume many of you received the Order form for the: - "Cloud Family Yearbook" and CD-ROM for $39.85 I strongly recommend you not waste your money -- and I also suggest you warn your kinfolks about them -- and encourage them to join CFA instead! (And, remember, they're hitting all the various surnames, so don't spare your warnings to just Clouds.) Your first clue should be the phrase ...... "The last 2000 years of Cloud history." That means they've found our ancestors back to the time of Christ!!! Go figure -- I didn't know they had surnames back then ?? This is a fraud, a poor collection of readily available data, such as phone books, census, SSDI, etc. Companies like this give good companies a bad name and hurt all of us. The company that is foisting this "service" on us ??? Their web addresses are: http://www.ourfamilynewsletter.net/ http://www.ourfamilyyearbook.com/ The company name is "Morphcorp" and the address they give is a fake -- it's a park in Denver (yes, that's correct, a park!): 1181 S. Parker Rd. Suite 105, Denver, CO 80231-2152 MorphCorp, AKA: Mountain West News Service, Mountain Pacific News Service Further information on this "yearbook" can be found at: http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaff/spring2005/text/page1-3.txt http://www.timyoho.com/YohoPage/YohoPage.htm http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaff/spring2005/page3.pdf#search='year%202005%20international%20family%20yearbook' ************************************* The technical "Whois" information on their domain is: Morh Corp 1181 S. Parker Rd Denver, Colorado 80231 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: OURFAMILYYEARBOOK.COM Created on: 10-Mar-04 Expires on: 10-Mar-06 Last Updated on: 10-Mar-04 Administrative Contact: MacMaster, Maxwell dnsadmin@mountaininternet.com Morh Corp 1181 S. Parker Rd Denver, Colorado 80231 United States 3039105223 Technical Contact: MacMaster, Maxwell dnsadmin@mountaininternet.com Morh Corp 1181 S. Parker Rd Denver, Colorado 80231 United States 3039105223 Domain servers in listed order: DNS1.MOUNTAININTERNET.COM DNS2.MOUNTAININTERNET.COM

You send it Kathy and I'll post it. We will be away for about a week or so, so take your time and write it well. We lived in Biloxi and Ocean Springs some 30 years ago and thank God we didnt live there now. Send it when you get it done. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "mkmarlow" <mkmarlow@cwnet.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 16 September, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: [CLOUD] How too? > Hi Ken, > Has been awhile, but wanted to check with you regarding submitting an > obituary of my grandfather as he passed as a result of a heart attack > while > Hurricane Katrina passed through his home in Gulfport, MS. He was 91 > years > old and I know you have him in your records as Walter J. Cloud, Jr. I am > in > the process of writing his obituary, things are a bit disarray in Gulfport > right now, but want to publish it here in the Sacramento Bee and on your > site. Any tips on writing it? I'll forward it soon for the site. He > was > a fan. > Thanks, > Kathy Cloud > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Matthew, Macik, Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/882 Message Board Post: See attached,,,,,,,,,,,no relation to above............

Hi Ken, Has been awhile, but wanted to check with you regarding submitting an obituary of my grandfather as he passed as a result of a heart attack while Hurricane Katrina passed through his home in Gulfport, MS. He was 91 years old and I know you have him in your records as Walter J. Cloud, Jr. I am in the process of writing his obituary, things are a bit disarray in Gulfport right now, but want to publish it here in the Sacramento Bee and on your site. Any tips on writing it? I'll forward it soon for the site. He was a fan. Thanks, Kathy Cloud

Tom, I've been "out of pocket" for a couple of days. I have logged on the sites you have posted and get an almost instant page on my screen. The only place where I experience a delay of a few seconds (less than a minute) is in the "Other Features" section. That could be caused by the size of the files linked in that section. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: Tom Cloud <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/15/2005 10:53:25 AM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] DNA project > > > Living people are supposed to be masked -- their names > given as "Living". > > I made the project members "not living", but made their > given names be their kit number. > > Your kit number is 32731. Your record in that database is: > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/getperson.php?personID=I1299&tree=cloud-dn a > > On the "Results" page, you can also click on your kit number at > the bottom of the page: > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/results/cdnareport.php > > > There is a nice script on that link that only shows the > paternal line (since that's pretty much all that's there > anyway). > > > ... I don't know if it's my location ?? .... but is the > mykindred site incredibly sloooooooooooow for anyone else? > > Tom > > > At 09:43 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote: > >Tom > > > > When I try to find myself in the data, it cannot find me. > >Am I not included in the data? > > > >Ken > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu> > >To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: 15 September, 2005 9:47 AM > >Subject: [CLOUD] DNA project > > > > > >>Cousins, > >>The dna project results page is ready for viewing. > >>Check it out at > >>http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/ > >> > >>As usual, I am not happy with the way it is laid out. > >>Suggestions solicited. > >>Even if you are _not_ a member of the dna project, you can > >>submit Histories or genealogy data, etc. Just click on the > >>link "Register for a Member Account". > >>Tom Cloud > >> > >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >>.................................................................. > >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > > > > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > >Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ >

Tom When I try to find myself in the data, it cannot find me. Am I not included in the data? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 September, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: [CLOUD] DNA project > > Cousins, > > The dna project results page is ready for viewing. > > Check it out at > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/ > > > As usual, I am not happy with the way it is laid out. > Suggestions solicited. > > Even if you are _not_ a member of the dna project, you can > submit Histories or genealogy data, etc. Just click on the > link "Register for a Member Account". > > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > >

Just ordered the kit to test Dad. "Thank you for ordering the Y-DNA25 test. Your sample kit number is 43861. " Dad's lineage is: Direct Descendants of Noah David Cloud 1 Noah David Cloud b: Abt. 1752 in VA d: 15 August 1838 in Edgefield Co, SC .. +Eunola Unity Carroll b: Abt. 1755 m: 26 April 1788 d: 04 December 1844 in Edgefield Co, SC ..... 2 John B. Cloud b: 13 February 1789 in Elbert Co, GA d: 17 June 1856 in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL ......... +Margaret Ann Swearingen b: 29 January 1790 in Pine House, Trenton, Edgefield Co, SC m: Abt. 1808 in Edgefield Dist, SC d: 18 November 1868 in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL ............. 3 Jeremiah T. Cloud b: Abt. 1812 in Edgefield Co, SC d: March 1880 in Macon Co, AL ................. +Susan Capers Glenn b: 02 January 1822 in Sumpter Co, SC m: 22 August 1845 in Russell Co, AL d: 05 April 1871 in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL .................... 4 Sampson Carroll Cloud b: 15 January 1848 in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL d: 02 July 1904 in LaPlace, Macon Co, AL ........................ +Elizabeth Florence Hamilton b: 01 September 1853 in Tuskegee, Macon Co, AL m: Abt. 1882 d: 06 April 1928 in Cairo, GA ............................ 5 Archibald Hamilton Cloud b: 01 August 1883 in La Place, Macon Co, AL d: 25 February 1940 in Dadeville, Tallapoosa Co, AL ................................ +Ida Louise Warren b: 29 January 1887 in Lochapoka, Lee Co, AL m: 14 November 1915 in Auburn, Lee Co, AL d: 22 November 1935 in Montgomery, Montgomery Co, AL .................................... 6 Hamilton Warren Cloud b: 1919 in Loachapoka, Lee Co, AL

Living people are supposed to be masked -- their names given as "Living". I made the project members "not living", but made their given names be their kit number. Your kit number is 32731. Your record in that database is: http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/getperson.php?personID=I1299&tree=cloud-dna On the "Results" page, you can also click on your kit number at the bottom of the page: http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/results/cdnareport.php There is a nice script on that link that only shows the paternal line (since that's pretty much all that's there anyway). ... I don't know if it's my location ?? .... but is the mykindred site incredibly sloooooooooooow for anyone else? Tom At 09:43 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote: >Tom > > When I try to find myself in the data, it cannot find me. >Am I not included in the data? > >Ken >----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu> >To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: 15 September, 2005 9:47 AM >Subject: [CLOUD] DNA project > > >>Cousins, >>The dna project results page is ready for viewing. >>Check it out at >>http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/ >> >>As usual, I am not happy with the way it is laid out. >>Suggestions solicited. >>Even if you are _not_ a member of the dna project, you can >>submit Histories or genealogy data, etc. Just click on the >>link "Register for a Member Account". >>Tom Cloud >> >>==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >>.................................................................. >> Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? >> Submit a brief description of your ancestry. > > >==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. >Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

There have been several documents added to the Histories page on the dna project. Click on "What's New" to see all the new things or on "Histories" to only see the History additions. ... also, let me know if you're having the same problem with very sloooow response from the mykindred server. The Histories: - Kernion genealogy for R.E. Cloud - letter of Daniel W. Cloud, dec'd at Alamo - pension application of John Cloud, RS - Pension application of William Cloud - WW-I draft registrations for Clouds Tom Cloud

Cousins, The dna project results page is ready for viewing. Check it out at http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/db/ As usual, I am not happy with the way it is laid out. Suggestions solicited. Even if you are _not_ a member of the dna project, you can submit Histories or genealogy data, etc. Just click on the link "Register for a Member Account". Tom Cloud

Harry, I have been in the courthouse in Rogersville and in the Hawkins County library, genealogy room. I have also surveyed the records in the Knox County library McClung Collection and the UT Special Collections library. I have not attempted to go through the Hawkins County Courthouse archived records. Here are some of my findings. The McClung Collection has two collections relating to NC Land Grants. One collection contains an index of grants listed by Tennessee counties and includes the microfilm copies of the grants. The other collection contains an index of NC Grants relating to Tennessee and includes microfilm copies of the grants. A particular grant may be and almost always is listed in both collections. As far as I know there hasn't been an attempt to collate and compare the two collections. One microfilm collection contains North Carolina Grant Books "A", "B" & "C". The Tennessee microfile collection contains Hawkins County Land Grants, Books "A", "B" & "C". Irene M. Griffey has transcribed what she calls "Earliest Tennessee Land Records and Earliest Tennessee Land History." Her work includes all of the NC land grants and transactions in Tennessee and covers multiple counties, i. e. Sullivan, Washington, Hawkins, Green, etc. This is a monumental work published by Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., Baltimore, MD (2000). Billie R. McNamara has compiled, "Hawkins County, Tennessee Grant Books 1 & 2, 1787 - 1819." John Armstrong surveyed most of the land grants in East Tennessee and his entry books are in the McClung Collection. I have seen copies of his entry books and they are very difficult to read. Irene Griffey has transcribed Armstrong's Entry Books in two volumns, self published in 1993. When you see a citation given as Hawkins County, Deed Books 1 - 8, those are the WPA typewritten copies of the original Deed Books and these copies contain many errors. Some of the typists never cleaned their type face and they were probably the single finger hunt and peck sort of typists. I have never determined the source for the Hawkins County, Tennessee Deed Books "A", "B" and "C". Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/13/2005 8:10:47 AM > Subject: [CLOUD] Re: Early Hawkins deed books > > this was posted to another rootsweb forum > > >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:23:34 -0600 > >From: hogahl@starpower.net > >Source: TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: Early Hawkins deed books > > > > > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > >Classification: Query > > > >Message Board URL: > > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/3396.1.2 > > > >Message Board Post: > > > >Peggy, > >I appreciated your response to my inquiry about the deed books. The cites below give an indication of my problems. In most cases, I did not see these records myself. They were collected from various sources, and I don���t know how careful the researchers were about their citations. Some of them seem to be incomplete ��� e.g., the 1791 (5 Sept) record cite specifies ���op. cit.��� [referring back to the 1790 (2 Jan) record], but the page number (35) is lower than that of the earlier record (77). So that raises the question: is the 1791 deed actually recorded in Deed Book 3 rather than 2? The same thing applies to the last two in the list ��� the 10 June, 1793 record cite indicates ���op. cit.��� in reference to the preceding one but, again, has a lower page number, raising the question as to whether the later deed is really recorded in Book 4? Can you tell me how many deed books we are dealing with during that 1790-1801 peri! > > od? Should the 1795 transfer to Wm. Cocke have a deed book reference? > > Also, regarding the 1791 (21 Nov) record, which cites what appears to be a later compilation of several books into one that covers a 12-year period, am I right that you say that such compilations were put together by the WPA project and involved only indices? If that���s the case, I can���t figure how where the actual data came from. And is the exact title of the compilation as it appears in that 1791 cite or in the later one that specifies ���Tennessee Records of Hawkins County, Deed Book No. 1, 1788 ��� 1800.���? Then there is the 1795 cite to ���Hawkins County Tennessee Grant Books 1 & 2, 1787 ��� 1819. ???? > > > >I hate to bother you with these questions, but I���m sitting up in D. C., far away from Rogersville. I have checked the LoC and the D.A.R. collections, and they are both very limited in this area. Thanks for whatever help you can give me. Harry > > > > > >Hawkins Co. land deed transfers: 1790 - 1801 > > > >1790 (2 Jan) - For 500 lbs, William Cloud of Stokes Co., NC, sold James Armstrong of Patrick Co., VA, 640 acres on both sides of Poor Valley Creek. [Hawkins Co., TN, Deed Book 2, p. 77] > > > >1791 (5 Sept) - For 100 lbs, Jason Cloud of Hawkins Co., TN, sold the heirs of A. Campbell 300 acres in Carter's Valley, adj. to Robert Campbell. [Hawkins Co., TN., op. cit., p. 35] > > > >1791 (21 Nov) ��� William Cloud sold 640 acres on north side of Holston River to William Cocke for 200 pounds Virginia currency. The deed was registered on 8th August, 1792. Witnessed by W. Gillim, W. Owen and W. Donelson. [Hawkins County Deed Book No. 1, 1788 ��� 1800, p. 138] > > > >1793 (5 May) ��� Isaac Cloud, Grant No. 341 for 640 acres in Hawkins County. [Hawkins Co., TN, Deed Book 3, p.191] > > > >1793 (10 Jun) - For 200 lbs, Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sold Joseph Cloud of Hawkins Co., TN, 160 acres on the N. side of the Holston, known as the Blue Springs. Witnessed by Jas. McCarty, Jason Cloud, Wm. Condery. [Hawkins Co., TN, op. cit., p. 93] > > > >1793 (9 Sept) ��� ���For 60 lbs, Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sold Jno. Henderson of Hawkins Co. 44 1/2 acres on N side of Holston where J.H. now lives. Wit: Benjn. Cloud, Wm. Henderson.��� [Hawkins Co., TN, op. cit., p. 136] > > > >1793 (23 Oct) - Isaac Cloud assigned to ? (name illegible) 25 acres in Hawkins Co., TN, on the north side of the Holston River. [ ? Grant 451, Entry 516, Book 80, p. 290] > > > >1794 (28 March) - For $400, Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sold Benjamin Cloud of Hawkins Co. 160 acres on N side of Holston River, above mouth of Poor Valley Creek. Wit: Shadrack Hale, Wm. Henderson. [Hawkins Co., TN, op. cit., p. 149] > > > >1795 (25 Apr) ��� Joseph Cloud, of the County of Hawkins and Territory South of the Ohio, sold 230 acres to James Armstrong of Hawkins County for the sum of 257 pounds. The land was located on the north side of Holston River on the waters of Poor Valley Creek adjoining the lines of Richard Mitchell, Joel Dyer and others. The deed was registered on 15th March, 1796. Witnessed by Henry Rowan and Moses Rhea. [Tennessee Records of Hawkins County, Deed Book No. 1, 1788 ��� 1800, p. 190] > > > >1795 (28 May) ��� ���Jason Cloud to W. Cocke, registered 10th February, 1799. Know all men by these presents that I Jason Cloud for and in consideration of the full and just sum of one thousand dollars to me in hand paid by William Cocke the receipt whereof I do hereby acknowledge hath bargained sold enfeoffd (sic) and confirmed unto William a certain tract or parcel of land lying in the county of Hawkins containing six hundred and forty acres be the same more or less to have and to hold the said bargained premises from me my heirs and assigns or from any person claiming by from or under me which said land was granted unto the said Jas. Cloud the 20th day of September 1787 and No. 432 and bounded as follows beginning at a leaning beech on the south side of Holston River then with the meander down the said River to a poplar and black oak on a Cliff of rocks at the lower and thence south one hundred and forty six poles to a white oak then east three hundred poles ! > > to a stake then north three hundred and five poles to a stake then west one hundred poles to the beginning and known by the name of the little horse shoe which said land together with appurtenances I do by these presents grant unto the said William Cocke his heirs and Co from me and my heirs and Co or from all manner of persons claiming by from or under me as witness my hand and seal this 28th day of May, 1795.��� (Signed) Jason Cloud (Seal) Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of Joshua Allison, Jacob Dyer. Hawkins County November term, 1798. This deed was proven in open court, Let it be registered.��� Richard Mitchell, Clerk. [Hawkins County Deed Book, p. 276] > > > >1795 (15 Aug) ��� Joseph Cloud and John Medcaff did a survey on both sides of Caney Fork on the waters of Poor Valley Creek for John Laithem, assignee of Samuel Reeves. McNamara, Billie R. Hawkins County Tennessee Grant Books 1 & 2, 1787 ��� 1819, p 191] > > > >1801 (22 Dec) -- For $13 1/3, Joseph Cloud to Robert Coile, both of Hawkins Co., TN, sells 150 acres on Hickory Cove, adj. Joel Gillenwater. Wit: Benjamin Cloud, John Denny. (Hawkins Co., TN. Deed Book 3, p. 47) > > > >1802 (16 Dec) ��� To Isaac Cloud, Grant No. 870, Warrant No. 88, for 640 acres in Hawkins County. [Hawkins County Deed Book C, p. 409] > > > >1808 (19 Mar) - For $1,000., Isaac Cloud of Rutherford Co., NC, sells 100 acres on Holston River, known as Cables Island, to Mark Mitchell of Rutherford Co. (NC or TN?). Witnesses: Arthur Cable, John W. Flowers, Isaac Cloud, Jr. [Hawkins Co., TN, Deed Book 6, p. 351] > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >