I have two parents for William Cloud (1621 Eng - 1702 PA) who m. Susan James. 1 - Robert Cloud& Joan Norys 2 - William Cloud & Joanne (unknown) Please help me with this. thanks, Tom Cloud

Who is R.P. Cloud who married Lulu Miller in 1917, Liberty county, TX ?? have been unable to locate in 1920 or 1930 census or in TX birth records. thanks, Tom Cloud

Man, this is going to take me a little time to get all of my documentation together. I'll try to answer your question as soon as possible as give you the reasons for my answer. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/21/2005 5:29:56 PM > Subject: [CLOUD] parents of Wm. Cloud (1750-1842) > > Can someone tell me who the parents are of Capt. Wm. Cloud > (SEP 17 1750 - FEB 8 1842) who married > - 1773 Adeline Martin > - 1795 Mary Morgan > - 1836 Nancy Vaughn > > >From the data I've been given, he has two parents: > > Wm. Cloud & Alice Hardin > and > Joseph Cloud & Nancy Moore > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://raogk.rootsweb.com/index.html >

Can someone tell me who the parents are of Capt. Wm. Cloud (SEP 17 1750 - FEB 8 1842) who married - 1773 Adeline Martin - 1795 Mary Morgan - 1836 Nancy Vaughn From the data I've been given, he has two parents: Wm. Cloud & Alice Hardin and Joseph Cloud & Nancy Moore thanks, Tom Cloud

I have a Missouri C. Cloud married to C. P. Wale. She is dau of Burton Cloud of Elizabeth Little. She what I have at www.cloudweb.org then look in the listing of those I cannot connect to a Cloud line. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: <LBLACK50@aol.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 21 October, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Celia Missouri Cloud > Hi... Your query was posted to the Cloud discussion group. I am not sure > what resources you have or what research you have done, but I checked the > ancestry.com census data. This is what I found: > > 1930 census for Washington Township, Stone County, MO; taken 5 Apr, page > 234, > Joel B. Norman, first married at 18, current age 57, born MO, father born > W. > VA, mother born: USA, prosecuting attorney for the county. Missouri C., > wife, first married at age 20, current age 60, born: ARK, father: TN, > mother: > MO; Ruth, daughter, age 22, born MO, bookkeeper in Post Office. They > lived on > Court St, and in Galena Town. > > 1920 census for Washington Township, Stone County, MO; taken 3 Jan, page > 257, > Joel B. Norman, age 48, born MO, father born VA, mother born: MO, > occupation > listed as none. Missouri C., wife, age 50, born: ARK, father: TN, > mother: > MO; Eva M., daughter, age 21, born MO, clerk in R. E. Office; Elton S., > son, > age 18, born MO; George W., age 15, born MO; E. Ruth, daughter, age 12, > born > MO. They lived in Galena Village > > 1910 census for Ponce de Leon Township, Stone County, MO; taken 5 Apr, > page > 269, > Joel B. Norman, age 39, married 21 years, born MO, father born VA, mother > born: MO, Lawyer, General Practice. M. C., wife, age 41, married 21 > years, had > 7 children, 6 children living, born: MO, father: USA, mother: USA; Edith, > daughter, age 16; Nell, daughter, age 14; Eva, daughter, age 11; Elton, > son, > age 8; George W., age 6; Toola (??), daughter, age 2. > > > 1900 census for Ponce de Leon Township, Stone County, MO; taken 23 Jun, > page > 259, > J. B. Norman, age 29, born May 1871, married 10 years, born MO, father > born > VA, mother born: MO, farmer; Missouri, wife, age 41, born Dec 1969, > married > 10 years, had 4 children, 3 children living, born: MO, father: TN, > mother: > MO; Edith, daughter, age 7, born Feb 1893; Nellie, daughter, age 4, born > Jan > 1896; Eva, daughter, age 1, Nov 1898. > > Earlier census information is not easy to pinpoint. Let's take Joel...In > the 1910 census, there is on the same page as Joel, Thomas S. Norman > (born in > VA), wife Alzora (would appear to not be the mother of Joel), # years of > present marriage 29. family # 50. Joel was family # 56. In the 1900 > census, > family #277 is T. S. Norman (born in VA), wife listed as Francis (would > appear to > be another name for Alzora since names of children are the same) Joel > was > family # 286. > > 1880 census for Osceola Township, St Clair Cty, MO, taken 9 Jun, page 349 > T.S. Norman, age 50, farmer, born Penn, parents place of birth blank. S. > E., wife, age 34, born IL, father born Penn, mother's place of birth > blank; J. > A., son, age unclear (somewhere between 10 and 16), born MO; J. B., son, > 8, > MO; R.E., daughter, 5, MO; T. F., son, 4, MO; C.B., daughter, 1, MO. > [note: > if this is Joel's mother, she must have died within about a year after > this > census and then Thomas married Alzora/Francis.] 1870 census for Osceola > Township, St Clair Cty, MO indicates Thomas is 30, born in VA, wife > Sally, 24, born > in MO, son, Albert, age 2. Would appear to be the same family as the > 1880 > census (although, there is another Thomas Norman living in the same > county, > unmarried, age 38, and born in Penn, and works as a carpenter). > > As for your Missouri, I can't find anyone by that name or initial of M. > C. > I see what appear to be 2 possibilities. > > Possibility #1: In the 1900 census, there is a Sarah C. Cloud > enumerated > on the same page as Joel and Missouri. She is widowed. She is family > #280 > while Joel and family are # 286. Sarah C. Cloud, 65, widowed, born Sep > 1834 in > Tenn, had 11 children, 8 living. Children living with her are J. L. > widowed, age 43; Thomas H., age 25, Martha E., age 23; grandson, William > E., 14. In > 1910, she is on page 267 of Ponce De Leon (Joel and MIssouri are on page > 269), age 73, living with her son Sherman H., widowed with two daughters. > Sarah > is shown born in TN with parents born in VA. If Sherman should possibly > be > the brother of Missouri, it is shown that both his parents were born in > TN. > In the 1880 census I find who appears to be Sarah - Cass Township, Stone > Cty, > MO (it is also shown they live in Galena P.O.). Joseph Cloud, 44, b: > TN, > parents b: TN; Sarah, 43, b: TN, parents b: VA; Joseph, 22, MO; Wiley, > 21, MO; > Martha, 16, MO; Grant, 12, MO; Sherman, 12, MO; Liza, 10, MO; George, 8, > MO; > Tom, 6, MO; Martha, 3, MO. [note: yes, the census shows two Martha's. > If > this is the parents of Missouri, it would probably mean that she is Liza. > Missouri may have been a nickname, since she was born in Missouri and > appeared > to live her life there.] Assuming for a moment this is she, the 1870 > census > would indicate that her name was Nancy L. > > Possibility # 2: 1880 census, Benton Township, Newton Cty, MO. > Alexander > C. Cloud, 53, b: TN, parents b: TN; Martha, 46, born: IL, father born: > KY, > mother b: MO; Henry F., 20, MO; Ida Flora, 15, ARK; Thomas L., 12, MO; > Mary C., > 10, MO; Martha W., 9, MO; Charles T., 6, MO; Maggie L., 4, MO. 1870 > census > shows this family in Elk, McDonald Cty, MO. Basically the same info, > Alex > born, TN, Martha b: IL, an additional brother, William, 12, born in MO, > and > Henry, Thomas and Mary born in MO, with Ida born in ARK. I picked this > as a > possibility because of the birthplace of the father, the current location > being > in MO, and if Missouri is a nickname, her real name could be Mary and C > is her > middle initial (Celia??). > > Please note, I know nothing about this Cloud branch of the family. All I > know is what I found in the census in which I have tried to describe > above. > Good luck on your search. > > Lura > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >

Hi... Your query was posted to the Cloud discussion group. I am not sure what resources you have or what research you have done, but I checked the ancestry.com census data. This is what I found: 1930 census for Washington Township, Stone County, MO; taken 5 Apr, page 234, Joel B. Norman, first married at 18, current age 57, born MO, father born W. VA, mother born: USA, prosecuting attorney for the county. Missouri C., wife, first married at age 20, current age 60, born: ARK, father: TN, mother: MO; Ruth, daughter, age 22, born MO, bookkeeper in Post Office. They lived on Court St, and in Galena Town. 1920 census for Washington Township, Stone County, MO; taken 3 Jan, page 257, Joel B. Norman, age 48, born MO, father born VA, mother born: MO, occupation listed as none. Missouri C., wife, age 50, born: ARK, father: TN, mother: MO; Eva M., daughter, age 21, born MO, clerk in R. E. Office; Elton S., son, age 18, born MO; George W., age 15, born MO; E. Ruth, daughter, age 12, born MO. They lived in Galena Village 1910 census for Ponce de Leon Township, Stone County, MO; taken 5 Apr, page 269, Joel B. Norman, age 39, married 21 years, born MO, father born VA, mother born: MO, Lawyer, General Practice. M. C., wife, age 41, married 21 years, had 7 children, 6 children living, born: MO, father: USA, mother: USA; Edith, daughter, age 16; Nell, daughter, age 14; Eva, daughter, age 11; Elton, son, age 8; George W., age 6; Toola (??), daughter, age 2. 1900 census for Ponce de Leon Township, Stone County, MO; taken 23 Jun, page 259, J. B. Norman, age 29, born May 1871, married 10 years, born MO, father born VA, mother born: MO, farmer; Missouri, wife, age 41, born Dec 1969, married 10 years, had 4 children, 3 children living, born: MO, father: TN, mother: MO; Edith, daughter, age 7, born Feb 1893; Nellie, daughter, age 4, born Jan 1896; Eva, daughter, age 1, Nov 1898. Earlier census information is not easy to pinpoint. Let's take Joel...In the 1910 census, there is on the same page as Joel, Thomas S. Norman (born in VA), wife Alzora (would appear to not be the mother of Joel), # years of present marriage 29. family # 50. Joel was family # 56. In the 1900 census, family #277 is T. S. Norman (born in VA), wife listed as Francis (would appear to be another name for Alzora since names of children are the same) Joel was family # 286. 1880 census for Osceola Township, St Clair Cty, MO, taken 9 Jun, page 349 T.S. Norman, age 50, farmer, born Penn, parents place of birth blank. S. E., wife, age 34, born IL, father born Penn, mother's place of birth blank; J. A., son, age unclear (somewhere between 10 and 16), born MO; J. B., son, 8, MO; R.E., daughter, 5, MO; T. F., son, 4, MO; C.B., daughter, 1, MO. [note: if this is Joel's mother, she must have died within about a year after this census and then Thomas married Alzora/Francis.] 1870 census for Osceola Township, St Clair Cty, MO indicates Thomas is 30, born in VA, wife Sally, 24, born in MO, son, Albert, age 2. Would appear to be the same family as the 1880 census (although, there is another Thomas Norman living in the same county, unmarried, age 38, and born in Penn, and works as a carpenter). As for your Missouri, I can't find anyone by that name or initial of M. C. I see what appear to be 2 possibilities. Possibility #1: In the 1900 census, there is a Sarah C. Cloud enumerated on the same page as Joel and Missouri. She is widowed. She is family #280 while Joel and family are # 286. Sarah C. Cloud, 65, widowed, born Sep 1834 in Tenn, had 11 children, 8 living. Children living with her are J. L. widowed, age 43; Thomas H., age 25, Martha E., age 23; grandson, William E., 14. In 1910, she is on page 267 of Ponce De Leon (Joel and MIssouri are on page 269), age 73, living with her son Sherman H., widowed with two daughters. Sarah is shown born in TN with parents born in VA. If Sherman should possibly be the brother of Missouri, it is shown that both his parents were born in TN. In the 1880 census I find who appears to be Sarah - Cass Township, Stone Cty, MO (it is also shown they live in Galena P.O.). Joseph Cloud, 44, b: TN, parents b: TN; Sarah, 43, b: TN, parents b: VA; Joseph, 22, MO; Wiley, 21, MO; Martha, 16, MO; Grant, 12, MO; Sherman, 12, MO; Liza, 10, MO; George, 8, MO; Tom, 6, MO; Martha, 3, MO. [note: yes, the census shows two Martha's. If this is the parents of Missouri, it would probably mean that she is Liza. Missouri may have been a nickname, since she was born in Missouri and appeared to live her life there.] Assuming for a moment this is she, the 1870 census would indicate that her name was Nancy L. Possibility # 2: 1880 census, Benton Township, Newton Cty, MO. Alexander C. Cloud, 53, b: TN, parents b: TN; Martha, 46, born: IL, father born: KY, mother b: MO; Henry F., 20, MO; Ida Flora, 15, ARK; Thomas L., 12, MO; Mary C., 10, MO; Martha W., 9, MO; Charles T., 6, MO; Maggie L., 4, MO. 1870 census shows this family in Elk, McDonald Cty, MO. Basically the same info, Alex born, TN, Martha b: IL, an additional brother, William, 12, born in MO, and Henry, Thomas and Mary born in MO, with Ida born in ARK. I picked this as a possibility because of the birthplace of the father, the current location being in MO, and if Missouri is a nickname, her real name could be Mary and C is her middle initial (Celia??). Please note, I know nothing about this Cloud branch of the family. All I know is what I found in the census in which I have tried to describe above. Good luck on your search. Lura

LISTING OF INHABITANTS IN 1765 CHESTER COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA Compiled by Victoria McQuillis Copyright 1987 by Southwest Pennsylvania Genealogical Services P. O. Box 253, Laughlintown, Pennsylvania 15665 FAMILY HISTORY LIBRARY CALL # 974.8A1 # 285 CLOUD, Abner Emb CLOUD, Abr'm Eca CLOUD, Edw'd (inmate) Loc CLOUD, Jason Eca CLOUD, Jason Wna CLOUD, Jeremiah (inmate) Ken CLOUD, Jesse (single) Emb CLOUD, Jno Loc CLOUD, Joseph (carpenter) Con CLOUD, Joseph Con CLOUD, Jos (freeman) Loc CLOUD, Mordecai Eca CLOUD, Mordecai Emb CLOUD, Mordicah Upc CLOUD, Wm Emb Cloud, Wm Ken The three letters represent the town in Chester County. I know that CON = Concord and KEN = Kennett __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/886 Message Board Post: Seeking parentage, childhood, and/or obit. Celia Cloud born AR or MO abt.1870. Married Joel Norman 1890, Stone Co., MO. (Stone Co. website transcript is incorrect) Died, buried 1931 Stone Co., MO.

No. He is a different Joseph. I am sending documentation to your personal email address. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: <irish.lass@cox.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/20/2005 10:24:26 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > So this Joseph Cloud Jr. is not the same as the Joseph Cloud who married Jane Carpenter, lived in Hawkins County, TN, and had many kids including son Burwell/Burl Cloud (my gggg-grandfather)? > > > > > From: "Harry Hogan" <hogahl@starpower.net> > > Date: 2005/10/19 Wed PM 04:53:40 EDT > > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > > > Joe -- a couple of other points. Most of the records I have seen point to > > Jane Carpenter as the wife of Joseph son of William. As for the "Nancy Jane > > Moore" mentioned in the Chadwell book, the generally agreed-upon wife of > > Joseph Cloud Sr.(1709-abt 1778), father of Captains Joseph and William > > Cloud, was Nancy Moore (making her those boys' mother, of course, and the > > grandmother of the Joseph you write about). I have never seen the "Jane" > > before. Harry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Farrell" <jpf81504@yahoo.com> > > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > > > > > > Thia could be the Joseph Cloud, son of Capt. Wm. Cloud > > > (Rev. War) > > > > > > refer to: "Chadwell Heritage" by Myrtle W. Braun & > > > Sharon Chadwell Phillips 1973- Phillips Press. > > > > > > 1. Joseph was great-grandfather of Alexander Moore > > > Cloud. According to Alexander Joseph settled in Stokes > > > Co, NC. (according to "Chadwell" he married Nancy Jane > > > Moore. He came over the mountains to TN in the latter > > > part of the nineteeth century and settled on a large > > > tract of land including what is now Bean Station. He > > > had several children. > > > > > > --- Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is > > >> mentioned > > >> in the inventory below? > > >> > > >> Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC > > >> Wills 1790-1864, > > >> inventory, page 155 Will book I > > >> > > >> September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William > > >> Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, > > >> Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > > >> > > >> Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas > > >> Cardwell > > >> > > >> > > >> thanks, > > >> Tom Cloud > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > >> > > >> > > > .............................................................. > > >> Join the Cloud Family Association: > > >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > > > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > > Monica Barber > Researching McKinney, Cloud, DuFour, Barber, Barnett family trees. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ >

So this Joseph Cloud Jr. is not the same as the Joseph Cloud who married Jane Carpenter, lived in Hawkins County, TN, and had many kids including son Burwell/Burl Cloud (my gggg-grandfather)? > > From: "Harry Hogan" <hogahl@starpower.net> > Date: 2005/10/19 Wed PM 04:53:40 EDT > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > Joe -- a couple of other points. Most of the records I have seen point to > Jane Carpenter as the wife of Joseph son of William. As for the "Nancy Jane > Moore" mentioned in the Chadwell book, the generally agreed-upon wife of > Joseph Cloud Sr.(1709-abt 1778), father of Captains Joseph and William > Cloud, was Nancy Moore (making her those boys' mother, of course, and the > grandmother of the Joseph you write about). I have never seen the "Jane" > before. Harry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Farrell" <jpf81504@yahoo.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > > > Thia could be the Joseph Cloud, son of Capt. Wm. Cloud > > (Rev. War) > > > > refer to: "Chadwell Heritage" by Myrtle W. Braun & > > Sharon Chadwell Phillips 1973- Phillips Press. > > > > 1. Joseph was great-grandfather of Alexander Moore > > Cloud. According to Alexander Joseph settled in Stokes > > Co, NC. (according to "Chadwell" he married Nancy Jane > > Moore. He came over the mountains to TN in the latter > > part of the nineteeth century and settled on a large > > tract of land including what is now Bean Station. He > > had several children. > > > > --- Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is > >> mentioned > >> in the inventory below? > >> > >> Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC > >> Wills 1790-1864, > >> inventory, page 155 Will book I > >> > >> September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William > >> Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, > >> Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > >> > >> Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas > >> Cardwell > >> > >> > >> thanks, > >> Tom Cloud > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > >> > >> > > .............................................................. > >> Join the Cloud Family Association: > >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > Monica Barber Researching McKinney, Cloud, DuFour, Barber, Barnett family trees.

Tom, Harry got it mostly right. He and I have been chasing this guy for years. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: Harry Hogan <hogahl@starpower.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/19/2005 4:37:42 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > Tom -- I feel pretty sure that this was the guy usually designated Joseph > Cloud Jr., of the Peter's Creek family. He fought in the Rev. (King's > Mountain, for one battle) and is generally referred to as Capt. Cloud (acc. > to one source, "Major"). He was prob. married to Mary ("Polly") Lawson. A > surveyor as well as farmer, he was an early settler of the area that became > northeast Tennessee and helped to lay out Rogersville, county seat of > Hawkins Co., TN, as well as holding a number of other county offices. After > a period in Tenn, he returned to Stokes Co., where he lived until his death > in 1825. Harry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Cloud" <tcloud@austin.rr.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:32 PM > Subject: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > > > > > Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is mentioned > > in the inventory below? > > > > Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC Wills 1790-1864, > > inventory, page 155 Will book I > > > > September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William Webb, deceased 1,135 > > acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > > > > Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas Cardwell > > > > > > thanks, > > Tom Cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

The name is still there on a highway sign - the station is gone. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: Ric Gordon <gordonfinder@sbcglobal.net> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/19/2005 2:55:47 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > You mean to tell me Bean Station is still there? > > Ric Gordon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Farrell > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > > Thia could be the Joseph Cloud, son of Capt. Wm. Cloud > (Rev. War) > > refer to: "Chadwell Heritage" by Myrtle W. Braun & > Sharon Chadwell Phillips 1973- Phillips Press. > > 1. Joseph was great-grandfather of Alexander Moore > Cloud. According to Alexander Joseph settled in Stokes > Co, NC. (according to "Chadwell" he married Nancy Jane > Moore. He came over the mountains to TN in the latter > part of the nineteeth century and settled on a large > tract of land including what is now Bean Station. He > had several children. > > --- Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is > > mentioned > > in the inventory below? > > > > Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC > > Wills 1790-1864, > > inventory, page 155 Will book I > > > > September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William > > Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, > > Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > > > > Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas > > Cardwell > > > > > > thanks, > > Tom Cloud > > > > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > > > > .............................................................. > > Join the Cloud Family Association: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .................................................................. > Have you submitted your Cloud lineage to the List? > Submit a brief description of your ancestry. >

That Joseph Cloud was my ancestor. He was Captain Joseph Cloud married to Polly Ukn. He led a company of mounted militia at the battle of King's Mountain and Cowpens. He received several generous land grants from the Governor of North Carolina following the War of Independence. One grant was for 3,000 acres in Stokes County laying on the waters of Peter's Creek and Snow Creek and Furies Fork. He was very active and involved in local and state political affairs. He was a judge in local elections. He was a Justice of the Peace and served on the bench of Stokes County Superior Court. He was appointed a Commissioner to settle estate problems and served as guardian of the interests of orphaned and illegitimate children. He was the surveyor for Stokes County. He died in March, 1828. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/19/2005 1:37:13 PM > Subject: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > > Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is mentioned > in the inventory below? > > Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC Wills 1790-1864, > inventory, page 155 Will book I > > September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > > Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas Cardwell > > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

Joe -- a couple of other points. Most of the records I have seen point to Jane Carpenter as the wife of Joseph son of William. As for the "Nancy Jane Moore" mentioned in the Chadwell book, the generally agreed-upon wife of Joseph Cloud Sr.(1709-abt 1778), father of Captains Joseph and William Cloud, was Nancy Moore (making her those boys' mother, of course, and the grandmother of the Joseph you write about). I have never seen the "Jane" before. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Farrell" <jpf81504@yahoo.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > Thia could be the Joseph Cloud, son of Capt. Wm. Cloud > (Rev. War) > > refer to: "Chadwell Heritage" by Myrtle W. Braun & > Sharon Chadwell Phillips 1973- Phillips Press. > > 1. Joseph was great-grandfather of Alexander Moore > Cloud. According to Alexander Joseph settled in Stokes > Co, NC. (according to "Chadwell" he married Nancy Jane > Moore. He came over the mountains to TN in the latter > part of the nineteeth century and settled on a large > tract of land including what is now Bean Station. He > had several children. > > --- Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> wrote: > >> >> Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is >> mentioned >> in the inventory below? >> >> Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC >> Wills 1790-1864, >> inventory, page 155 Will book I >> >> September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William >> Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, >> Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. >> >> Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas >> Cardwell >> >> >> thanks, >> Tom Cloud >> >> >> >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >> >> > .............................................................. >> Join the Cloud Family Association: >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >> >> > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ >

Joe - The estimated birth date of Joseph, son of William (Rev. S.) is 1789, meaning he would have been 11 years old in 1800. His uncle, William's brother -- Capt. Joseph Cloud -- was very prominent in Stokes Co. at that time and was frequently called on to be an estate executor or witness. The question of which of all the possible Josephs was the great-grandfather of Alexander Moore Cloud of Tazewell, TN, has been hotly argued for many years. I count myself as in the camp of those who think it was Capt. Joe, through his son Benjamin Franklin Cloud. That view would hold that he (Joseph) did indeed come "over the mountains," but after a number of years went back over them to his old home on Peter's Creek. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Farrell" <jpf81504@yahoo.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > Thia could be the Joseph Cloud, son of Capt. Wm. Cloud > (Rev. War) > > refer to: "Chadwell Heritage" by Myrtle W. Braun & > Sharon Chadwell Phillips 1973- Phillips Press. > > 1. Joseph was great-grandfather of Alexander Moore > Cloud. According to Alexander Joseph settled in Stokes > Co, NC. (according to "Chadwell" he married Nancy Jane > Moore. He came over the mountains to TN in the latter > part of the nineteeth century and settled on a large > tract of land including what is now Bean Station. He > had several children. > > --- Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> wrote: > >> >> Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is >> mentioned >> in the inventory below? >> >> Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC >> Wills 1790-1864, >> inventory, page 155 Will book I >> >> September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William >> Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, >> Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. >> >> Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas >> Cardwell >> >> >> thanks, >> Tom Cloud >> >> >> >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >> >> > .............................................................. >> Join the Cloud Family Association: >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >> >> > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ >

Tom -- I feel pretty sure that this was the guy usually deisgnated Joseph Cloud Jr., of the Peter's Creek family. He fought in the Rev. (King's Mountain, for one battle) and is generally referred to as Capt. Cloud (acc. to one source, "Major"). He was prob. married to Mary ("Polly") Lawson. A surveyor as well as farmer, he was an early settler of the area that became northeast Tennessee and helped to lay out Rogersville, county seat of Hawkins Co., TN, as well as holding a number of other county offices. After a period in Tenn, he returned to Stokes Co., where he lived until his death in 1825. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Cloud" <tcloud@austin.rr.com> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) > > Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is mentioned > in the inventory below? > > Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC Wills 1790-1864, > inventory, page 155 Will book I > > September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William Webb, deceased 1,135 > acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > > Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas Cardwell > > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud >

You mean to tell me Bean Station is still there? Ric Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Farrell To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [CLOUD] Inventory Estate of William Webb (Joseph Cloud) Thia could be the Joseph Cloud, son of Capt. Wm. Cloud (Rev. War) refer to: "Chadwell Heritage" by Myrtle W. Braun & Sharon Chadwell Phillips 1973- Phillips Press. 1. Joseph was great-grandfather of Alexander Moore Cloud. According to Alexander Joseph settled in Stokes Co, NC. (according to "Chadwell" he married Nancy Jane Moore. He came over the mountains to TN in the latter part of the nineteeth century and settled on a large tract of land including what is now Bean Station. He had several children. --- Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is > mentioned > in the inventory below? > > Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC > Wills 1790-1864, > inventory, page 155 Will book I > > September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William > Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, > Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > > Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas > Cardwell > > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/

Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is mentioned in the inventory below? Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC Wills 1790-1864, inventory, page 155 Will book I September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas Cardwell thanks, Tom Cloud

Thia could be the Joseph Cloud, son of Capt. Wm. Cloud (Rev. War) refer to: "Chadwell Heritage" by Myrtle W. Braun & Sharon Chadwell Phillips 1973- Phillips Press. 1. Joseph was great-grandfather of Alexander Moore Cloud. According to Alexander Joseph settled in Stokes Co, NC. (according to "Chadwell" he married Nancy Jane Moore. He came over the mountains to TN in the latter part of the nineteeth century and settled on a large tract of land including what is now Bean Station. He had several children. --- Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know who the Joseph Cloud is that is > mentioned > in the inventory below? > > Mrs. Abshers' will abstracts, Stokes County, NC > Wills 1790-1864, > inventory, page 155 Will book I > > September term 1800. Inventory Estate of William > Webb, deceased 1,135 acres land; 5 negroes, Tom, > Doss, Rose, Dick and Nelly; other articles. > > Signed Martha Webb, Joseph Cloud, and Thomas > Cardwell > > > thanks, > Tom Cloud > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/

Does anyone on the Cloud mail list know the story of Roy F. Cloud of Chickasha, Indian Territory? He won land in the El Reno District Land Lottery held on August 1, 1901. Where was he born? Did he have children? Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net