It saddens me to tell you that William Thomas Cloud (1929-2006) passed away 2-28-2006 and services are today at 1:00 here in Austin, TX. He is the brother of Bob Cloud, whose wife, Pat, helped found the Cloud Family Association. His obit was in the Austin American Statesman and can be seen at: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I81119&tree=mykindred01 (If that link has been corrupted by being wrapped, visit the main page and enter search for Cloud, William Thomas. He is the second in the list.) http://mykindred.com/ Tom Cloud

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/419.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello David, You sent me pictures of my Bissell family way back, and I never Thanked You! I'm Sorry for that! Well "Thank You" I loved seeing my Great Grandparents! I Have a picture of Harry and Nancy's son Albert (Bert) and his 2nd wife Ruth. I will try and send it to you (if I can learn how to scan it to email!) I'm not to good on the computer, but I will try! Again Thank You for the pictures. If you have anymore info on The Bissell side I would love to read it. Thank You Your Cousin (not sure what type cousin) Debbie Bissell

Tom, Developers must have run out of native American graves to build over so now they focus on graves from the Revolutionary period. Ray Shirley rshirley@icx.net > [Original Message] > From: Tom Cloud <tcloud@austin.rr.com> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/18/2006 11:48:18 PM > Subject: [CLOUD] Stop the Destruction of Historic Burial Sites in Alabama > > > The McDade-Manning Springs Cemetery, along with other historic burial sites in Montgomery Country, Alabama are being threatened by development. See recent article in the Montgomery newspaper > > http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060217/NEWS 01/602170325/1007 > > Please sign the petition at > > http://www.petitiononline.com/McDade1/petition.html > > Also, please contact your federal representatives -- these cemeteries contain the graves of Revolutionary War veterans, War of 1812 veterans and Civil War veterans. > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > .............................................................. > Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

I am forwarding these posts to the list in the hope that we can all, together, help preserve these cemeteries. A contact for questions: Ted Urquhart President Alabama Cemetery Preservation Alliance <ted.urquhart@cox.net> .................. The hearing on abandonment of the cemetery is Tuesday, allowing for construction over it. http://www.mc-ala.org/ The Pinkston Cemetery is not a McDade burial ground, but it is on the same preservation list as the McDade-Manning Springs Cemetery. Historic burial grounds should be preserved. The people who built this country -- who put their lives on the line to do so -- deserve more respect. Subject: Agenda Item 21 Dear [recipient name was inserted here], Vote against abandonment on Agenda Item 21, ( Tuesday February 21, 2006 - Pinkston Cemetery) ( Sign name only here ) Todd Strange, District 1 334-832-1210, office toddstrange@mc-ala.org, email Elton N. Dean, Sr. District 2 334-832-1210, office eltondean@mc-ala.org, email Dimitri Polizos, District 3 334-832-1210, office dimitripolizos@mc-ala.org, email Jiles Williams, Jr. District 4 334-832-1210, office jileswilliams@mc-ala.org, email Reed Ingram, District 5 334-832-1210, office reedingram@mc-ala.org, email

From: Ted Urquhart, President Alabama Cemetery Preservation Alliance Subject: RE: Pinkston Cemetery - On Tuesday's Mtgy Co Commission Meeting's Agenda - Update Walter Byers, City Attorney, returned my call yesterday and confirmed that the county has jurisdiction over the cemetery. Commissioner Reed Ingram and I just talked - and he was not optimistic for the commission ruling in our favor. He explained that the developers are contributors to the individual board members, including himself, and he believes he will be the only one to vote against declaring the cemetery abandoned. He did encourage me to be at the 8:00 meeting Tuesday and to point out the Alabama Supreme Court case ruling - he had read it prior to the meeting two weeks ago but didn't know if the others had. Can we influence the vote? We've got Reed's vote - he represents Dist 5. A bit late, but if any of you know any of the other commissioners, live in a different district or know someone who does, a call to the other commissioners encouraging them to vote against abandonment on Agenda Item 21 could help. The Montgomery County website at http://www.mc-ala.org/commission/2006/default.htm only lists their names and office phone and email and, of course, Monday's a holiday, so need to try to reach them at home. I'll be at the 8:00 meeting to present our case. For those of you who can't make it to Tuesday's meeting, wish us luck. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Ted Urquhart [mailto:ted.urquhart@cox.net] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:40 PM To: Ann Biggs Williams; Lee Anne Wofford; Frank Brown; Paul Mcguire; Phyllis Armstrong; Cindy Kirkland; Jan Allison; L. J. Nicoll; Lisa Baggett Subject: Pinkston Cemetery - On Tuesday's Mtgy Co Commission Meeting's Agenda Importance: High We're up again on the County Commission's Formal Session Agenda Tuesday, Feb 21, 9:30 - the last item: 21. Consider Adoption of Resolution Regarding the Declaration of Abandonment of a Cemetery Located on Chantilly Parkway I contacted the Commission's (Clerk??), Donald Mims, and he said the county and city attorneys got together and determined that the county had jurisdiction. I missed Commissioned Reed Ingram at the courthouse and have left a voice mail on his home phone to call me to see his take on the outcome. I also called Jeff Downes, the Mayor's Exec Assistant, and he was not aware of the two attorney's getting together and gave me the City Attorney, Walter Byers, name and phone number - I've left a message with his office to call me as well. I plan on being in the County Commission's 8:00 meeting Tuesday morning. Would appreciate those of you who can to attend the 9:30 formal session. Will advise if I hear anything back from these turkeys - err, gentlemen. Ted

The McDade-Manning Springs Cemetery, along with other historic burial sites in Montgomery Country, Alabama are being threatened by development. See recent article in the Montgomery newspaper http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060217/NEWS01/602170325/1007 Please sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/McDade1/petition.html Also, please contact your federal representatives -- these cemeteries contain the graves of Revolutionary War veterans, War of 1812 veterans and Civil War veterans.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YNJ.2ACIB/857.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am still struggling with the various names and so forth. I'm not even sure Nancy-is-Liza-is-Celia? Not to mention Margaret-is-Sarah? Much more research to do... happy hunting to you! Janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CLOUD, SEYBOLD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/857.3 Message Board Post: Janet and DeAnne Please see the information I have for the Joseph Britten Cloud family at http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I67245&tree=mykindred01 or Search at http://mykindred.com/ I don't have a daughter Mary jane or Nancy there, much less a marriage for them. I would like to have them, if you don't mind. My most recent research for this branch of our Cloud family has been with Joseph's grandparents, Joseph Cloud and Jane Carpenter. I have listed there all census and other information for them and their descendants (that I could find) -- and would appreciate any corrections or anything you think ought to be added. There is a "Suggestion" button where you can post things for each person, or just write me. WRT Wiley Van Buren Cloud dying in I.T. ... my Cloud line split up and my g-grandfather went to I.T. It is interesting how all of those descendants think they have Indian blood, partly because they were born and grew up on various Indian Reservations ... while the other branches, that did not migrate to I.T. have no such stories (about having Indian blood). My grand-aunt, Idumea Seybold Moore (grandma Cloud's sister), even filed for citizenship with the Cherokee Nation, going so far as to get an old chieftan to lie for her about knowing her (deceased) parents and how they were Indian, which they were not. Her application is in the rejected file! I think many of them were so poor, they were looking for any way to get by.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YNJ.2ACIB/857.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm just now getting back to the research...sorry it took so long. YES! Liza and Nancy were sisters to Mary Jane. It's frustrating...on one census it lists Mary Jane as Martha even though there is a Martha at the bottom. It only happens on one of them. I, too, found the mistype of the wedding and thought my g-grandma was illegitimate for a while. I found links that take the clouds all the way back to England in the 1500's. I'm beginning to think that one of the Clouds must have married an Indian...but it's soooo hard to tracy the maternal side. Thanks for your info. and I'm going to save these in case I find more....OH! I almost forgot. The ONLY Indian reference I've found is in Wiley Van Buren Cloud...he is the brother of fLiza, Nancy and Mary Jane...he died in Oklahoma in the Choctaw Indian territory. I just found that the other day and haven't had time to look into qualifications to live in this area or anything. Let's keep each other posted. DeAnne

In case anyone else is looking at this same line, here is my family tree. Me - Debbie Miller Daughter of Edward Miller and Barbara Ann Shreve (both are now deceased) Edward was son of Pearl Chester Miller and Elnora "Ella" Ford Elnora Ford was daughter of Jasper Newton Ford and Sarah C. Brown Jasper Newton Ford was son of Newton W. Ford and Elizabeth Ann (Arrendt? - not sure of spelling) Newton W. Ford was son of Adam Cloud Ford and Eliza Nelson Adam Cloud Ford was son of John Ford and Hannah Cloud And the rest you already have in your data banks....... Thanks to all who have helped me with Adam Cloud Ford's ancestors - I've filled in gaps!!!! If anyone needs info on my Fords, I have it in my records and will be glad to share! I have a will, and lists of children, etc. Debbie Miller Blacklick OH

List I recently subscribed to these lists and wanted to share some info I got from the library. In the Cemetery List for Dovel Memorial Cemetery, Violet Township, Pickerington, OH I fould the following: notes in ( ) are from the transcription; my notes/questions are in italics. 1. Ford, __________, _______ of Adam C. (broken and misplaced) I'm assuming this was Eliza Ford wife of Adam Cloud Ford. But not sure. 2. Ford, Elnor (Elmer) Jane, daughter of A.C. and E; died Jan 23, 1845 aged 19y 9 m (in wrong row) 3. Ford, Hannah, wife of John, died Oct 23, 1824, aged 67y (61y) 6 m 16d 4. Ford, John, died 24 July 1830, aged 72y 3m 15d 5. Ford, Edward, son of J.B. & J.J. (L.E & L L) died Aug 27, 1867, aged 5m 23 d any ideas who this baby was? 6. Ford, James, son of P & E (R & E) died Apr 28, 183 __ (1836) aged 20d or this baby? 7. Ford, Nancy, daughter of P.A. & E (stone broken off) [daughter of R & E] died May 10, 1829 aged 1 y 7 m 13d or this little girl? 8. Ford, Nathan, son of P & E died 21 Jun 1833, aged 12 y 4 m 5d 9. Ford, Adam G [C] died Jan 19, 1861, aged 12y 4 m 5d (82 y 4m 9d) broken off could this be Adam Cloud Ford? If anyone can ID these folks - I'd appreciate it. I'm especially curious about who P & E Ford was. Next, does anyone have directions to Dovel Memorial Cemetery. I live in Columbus, but am not familiar with the Pickerington area. Also, as time permits, I'll be sending in my info for Cloud/Ford from Adam Cloud Ford - forward in time. Thanks Debbie Miller

Dear Newbie, Glad to have you along! However, perhaps you might find you get more assistance if you were to put the name, year (even approx), and area of the person or persons you are trying to research in your subject heading. Many of us are subscribed to numerous lists and we use the subject headings to simply delete many of the hundred or more messages we get every day from rootsweb.com lists. People will know if you are possibly among the folks that they can make a connection with if you used a better subject heading. Has anyone told you yet about the websites of Tom Cloud and Ken Cloud? They both operate as sort of clearing houses for Cloud family names. There are differences in their pages so it is definitely worthwhile to go to both. Neither Tom nor Ken vouches for any of the folks in their huge ged.coms except for the people that they themselves have researched and proved (or nearly proved through secondary sources and good reasoning). I, however, found some incorrect information on Ken's site that I could put together with some family oral history and I was able to sort out the booboo and break down a very old brick wall! It is well worth checking out any information in both sites. It could be really good information! And, if it is somewhat flawed, it may give you just enough information to find your family and to get to the documents that show they are yours! Ken's website address is called Kennyc's Cloud Family Page. Get into the database by going to: _http://www.cloudweb.org/_ (http://www.cloudweb.org/) Tom's website is called My Kindred.com. Get into his database to see if you can find matches at: _http://mykindred.com/sitemap.htm_ (http://mykindred.com/sitemap.htm) Good luck with your research! Karen Carter Leander, TX

Sorry Debbie, but what you see is what I got. Ken Cloud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miller, Debbie L (DSCC)" <Debbie.Miller@dla.mil> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 09 February, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [CLOUD] New member > Ken, > I've spent a bit of time looking at your site and WOW. I found a lot of > Hannah's line in there so I was happy. > > Do you happen to know any thing about Adam Cloud Ford and Elizabeth > Nelson - and an American Indian connection. One source mentions that > there is one. > > Thanks, > Debbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken C [mailto:kec@cox.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:39 AM > To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CLOUD] New member > > I have the following notes for Hannah Cloud Ford: > > 1. Marr John Ford abt 1781 in PA or norther De. death data > > from tombstone per > > Frances Knapp *P RSXW26A > > 2. b & d date, marr from data received from Harley A. Cloud, > > 7805 Birnam Wood Dr., McLean, VA 22102-2708. > > His sources not noted. Ken Cloud > > I am a descendant of Hannah Cloud who married John Ford and lived in > Ohio. > Hannah and John, along with thier son, Adam Cloud Ford and his wife > Elizabeth Nelson, are buried in Dovel cemetery in Pickerington, Ohio. > There must have been a story to explain how John Ford and Hannah ended > up so far from thier home. I live in Pickerington. Pat Sheridan-- > ptsheridan@hotmail.com > > I also show Adam Cloud Ford married Elizabeth Nelson, date unk. > > > > Ken Cloud > > www.cloudweb.org > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Miller, Debbie L (DSCC)" <Debbie.Miller@dla.mil> > To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 09 February, 2006 10:11 AM > Subject: [CLOUD] New member > > >> Hi >> I'm a new list member and am researching.... >> Adam Cloud Ford who was the son of John Ford and Hannah Cloud, from > the >> Fairfield Co., Pickerington, OH area. >> IRT Hannah Cloud I have that she might have been born 17 Apr 1757 in > VA, >> but don't know when she married John ford or when/where she died. >> I also have the name John Coke Cloud - don't know who he is or if he > is >> related? >> >> Does anyone know of these folks? Were they Native Americans? >> >> Thanks Debbie >> >> >> >> >> ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== >> ................................................................ >> Cloud Family DNA Project >> http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ >> >> > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > Visit the Cloud Family Association web pages: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud/ ... http://mykindred.com/cloud/ > >

Ken, I've spent a bit of time looking at your site and WOW. I found a lot of Hannah's line in there so I was happy. Do you happen to know any thing about Adam Cloud Ford and Elizabeth Nelson - and an American Indian connection. One source mentions that there is one. Thanks, Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Ken C [mailto:kec@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:39 AM To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CLOUD] New member I have the following notes for Hannah Cloud Ford: 1. Marr John Ford abt 1781 in PA or norther De. death data from tombstone per Frances Knapp *P RSXW26A 2. b & d date, marr from data received from Harley A. Cloud, 7805 Birnam Wood Dr., McLean, VA 22102-2708. His sources not noted. Ken Cloud I am a descendant of Hannah Cloud who married John Ford and lived in Ohio. Hannah and John, along with thier son, Adam Cloud Ford and his wife Elizabeth Nelson, are buried in Dovel cemetery in Pickerington, Ohio. There must have been a story to explain how John Ford and Hannah ended up so far from thier home. I live in Pickerington. Pat Sheridan-- ptsheridan@hotmail.com I also show Adam Cloud Ford married Elizabeth Nelson, date unk. Ken Cloud www.cloudweb.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miller, Debbie L (DSCC)" <Debbie.Miller@dla.mil> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 09 February, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: [CLOUD] New member > Hi > I'm a new list member and am researching.... > Adam Cloud Ford who was the son of John Ford and Hannah Cloud, from the > Fairfield Co., Pickerington, OH area. > IRT Hannah Cloud I have that she might have been born 17 Apr 1757 in VA, > but don't know when she married John ford or when/where she died. > I also have the name John Coke Cloud - don't know who he is or if he is > related? > > Does anyone know of these folks? Were they Native Americans? > > Thanks Debbie > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== ................................................................ Cloud Family DNA Project http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/

I have the following notes for Hannah Cloud Ford: 1. Marr John Ford abt 1781 in PA or norther De. death data from tombstone per Frances Knapp *P RSXW26A 2. b & d date, marr from data received from Harley A. Cloud, 7805 Birnam Wood Dr., McLean, VA 22102-2708. His sources not noted. Ken Cloud I am a descendant of Hannah Cloud who married John Ford and lived in Ohio. Hannah and John, along with thier son, Adam Cloud Ford and his wife Elizabeth Nelson, are buried in Dovel cemetery in Pickerington, Ohio. There must have been a story to explain how John Ford and Hannah ended up so far from thier home. I live in Pickerington. Pat Sheridan-- ptsheridan@hotmail.com I also show Adam Cloud Ford married Elizabeth Nelson, date unk. Ken Cloud www.cloudweb.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miller, Debbie L (DSCC)" <Debbie.Miller@dla.mil> To: <CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 09 February, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: [CLOUD] New member > Hi > I'm a new list member and am researching.... > Adam Cloud Ford who was the son of John Ford and Hannah Cloud, from the > Fairfield Co., Pickerington, OH area. > IRT Hannah Cloud I have that she might have been born 17 Apr 1757 in VA, > but don't know when she married John ford or when/where she died. > I also have the name John Coke Cloud - don't know who he is or if he is > related? > > Does anyone know of these folks? Were they Native Americans? > > Thanks Debbie > > > > > ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== > ................................................................ > Cloud Family DNA Project > http://mykindred.com/cloud/dna/ > >

THANKS!!! I'll check it out. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Cloud [mailto:cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:23 AM To: CLOUD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CLOUD] New member At 09:11 AM 2/9/2006, you wrote: >Hi >I'm a new list member and am researching.... >Adam Cloud Ford who was the son of John Ford and Hannah Cloud, from the >Fairfield Co., Pickerington, OH area. >IRT Hannah Cloud I have that she might have been born 17 Apr 1757 in >VA, but don't know when she married John ford or when/where she died. >I also have the name John Coke Cloud - don't know who he is or if he is >related? > >Does anyone know of these folks? Were they Native Americans? > >Thanks Debbie Debbie, This is not my line, but data submitted for Adam Cloud Ford can be seen at mykindred.com at: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I69224&tree=mykindr ed01 Tom Cloud ==== CLOUD Mailing List ==== .............................................................. Join the Cloud Family Association: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cloud

Hi I'm a new list member and am researching.... Adam Cloud Ford who was the son of John Ford and Hannah Cloud, from the Fairfield Co., Pickerington, OH area. IRT Hannah Cloud I have that she might have been born 17 Apr 1757 in VA, but don't know when she married John ford or when/where she died. I also have the name John Coke Cloud - don't know who he is or if he is related? Does anyone know of these folks? Were they Native Americans? Thanks Debbie

At 09:11 AM 2/9/2006, you wrote: >Hi >I'm a new list member and am researching.... >Adam Cloud Ford who was the son of John Ford and Hannah Cloud, from the >Fairfield Co., Pickerington, OH area. >IRT Hannah Cloud I have that she might have been born 17 Apr 1757 in VA, >but don't know when she married John ford or when/where she died. >I also have the name John Coke Cloud - don't know who he is or if he is >related? > >Does anyone know of these folks? Were they Native Americans? > >Thanks Debbie Debbie, This is not my line, but data submitted for Adam Cloud Ford can be seen at mykindred.com at: http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I69224&tree=mykindred01 Tom Cloud

At 12:13 AM 2/2/2006, you wrote: >please drop me from this list serve. > >Thanks Folks, To refresh everyone's memory ... to subscribe / unsubscribe from the list send the appropriate word (subscribe or unsubscribe) in the subject field or the body of the email to cloud-L-request@rootsweb.com (This is the same for all rootsweb email groups.)

please drop me from this list serve. Thanks