In a message dated 6/18/2006 7:11:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dick.Davis@verizon.net writes: I would recommend that if this discussion has to be continued, then it be continued off the list. I agree with Dick on this. As Cheryl said "She uses Clooz as a stand alone." Clooz IS a stand alone program and needs to be just that. It keeps track of your documents and links people to them. Clooz keeps me organized and allows instant retrieval of any and all documents I have entered. The alternate ID number allows me to enter a person's individual number no matter what genealogy program is being used. I use the Alternate, ID number to keep track of all of the "not known if they are related" BOYD's/GORDON's/ARMSTRONG's on the Griffith's Valuations and other Irish records I've used. By putting the Townland in the space I can group every name in that Townland. Not everyone is going to enter information the same. Liz has done a fine job on the manual but each of us will have to make the final decision on how we want the program she designed to fit our individual needs. I'm not a programmer but doubt that every program can be everything to everybody. Marie Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C. --------------------------------------------------------------- CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.