I think the problem is that, from the outside, it looks as though Clooz and Legacy march hand in hand and are more integrated than perhaps the real case is. Certainly I've never seen any response to my queries about people using Clooz as a stand-alone document management system -- thus suggesting to my mind that Clooz users are also tied Legacy users. Are there Clooz users who use one of the other Windows-based genealogy programs? Kate, I use RootsMagic and I love it. I don't have a lot of documents entered into Clooz yet since I am trying to get my information into RootsMagic first, then copy what I can into Clooz. Dottie Nash