Liz, You wrote that "Clooz is being transitioned to Visual Basic. It's too hard to keep up with Microsoft's version changes, so there will only be one version of Clooz under Visual Basic. The database you create will still be a Microsoft Access .mdb database." Does this mean that when you transition Clooz to Visual Basic that I will still be able to read all my Clooz files in Access97 and make my own reports in Access if I wish? Do you have any idea when your Visual Basic will be out & what the cost will be for your current Cloozers? Thank you, Lillian Cain