Hi Kym I'm afraid I only have an indirect answer to an direct question. I, too, am a user of both TMG and Clooz. First off, my indirect answer to your question - if Clooz has such a copy feature, I haven't seen it yet. I suspect not. I have used a similar approach to yours, in dealing with both TMG and Clooz at the same time, but with a few differences. Because of the lack of a programmatic link between TMG and Clooz, I elected to enter my people into Clooz manually rather than through the import process. That's because my TMG database is still in relatively early stages of development, with only about 2500 people in it, and once I have imported them, I would need to manually enter new people that I add to TMG into both databases anyway. And since the Clooz person record only contains 6 fields, I don't find that a great inconvenience. Besides that, this way the only people that I actually have entered in Clooz are the ones that I actually have documents for. So when I enter a new person into Clooz, I let it use whatever number it wants for the primary ID. I then enter the Alternate ID from my corresponding TMG record, and the other 5 bits of data about the person. That way, I have a reference number between the 2 databases. The downside is that I can never use TMG's record renumbering utility, because that would demolish the relationship between the records in the 2 databases. For what its worth, I also use 2 (at the moment) other types of alternate IDs in Clooz. Since Clooz doesn't care what sort of value you place in the alternate ID field, and since those values don't have to be unique, I use the words UNRELATED and UNKNOWN for certain people. An example of where I find this useful is with census records (which, quite frankly, is where most of my experience with Clooz is at this point). Sometimes I have an ancestor who was doing something like living as a boarder in an unrelated person's household. So the actual census record might have 6 or 8 individuals in the household, but the only 1 that I have recorded in my TMG database is my ancestor. Depending upon who they are, sometimes I list the other individuals in the memo field of my census tag in such a way that they appear appropriately on my narrative reports. Those people, do, however, have a place in my Clooz database, because, otherwise I will have a census record in Clooz that has nothing in it except for my relative. So I put a record for everyone who was in the household in the Clooz census record. That is where the UNRELATED and UNKNOWN alternate IDs come in. I use UNRELATED as an alternate ID when I absolutely know that the person has no blood or marital relationship to my family. I use UNKNOWN when I don't know if there is such a relationship. So far that is working pretty well for me, although I freely admit that I am rather a novice at this whole genealogy game. I'm having a real ball with it though... Hope this helps Mike D. -----Original Message----- From: clooz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:clooz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kym Lister Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:29 PM To: CLOOZ@rootsweb.com Subject: [CLOOZ] Copying IDs I imported from TMG to Clooz. I had the import include all my TMG Data Set ID numbers as those are the IDs I use to identify my people and I don't use another form of reference ID. Is there a way to copy those IDs to the Alternate ID column? I need to do this because the TMG ID is my only identifying reference number for all my people. As I begin using Clooz, the new people I enter may not have been entered into TMG and received a TMG generated ID yet so I need to be able to leave the Alternate ID column blank for this use. Is there any way to do a simple copy from the ID field to the Alternate ID field before I start using Clooz from this point? Thanks! Kym Lister ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CLOOZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kym - - I'm another TMG / Clooz user who has successfully managed to do what you're trying to do -- import people from TMG into Clooz while storing the TMG ID into the Clooz Alternate ID field. But it requires that you have a copy of Access installed on your PC. If you have Access let me know and I'll give you some more details. Dan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Daugherty" <mmj7806@adelphia.net> To: <clooz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [CLOOZ] Copying IDs > Hi Kym > > I'm afraid I only have an indirect answer to an direct question. I, too, > am > a user of both TMG and Clooz. First off, my indirect answer to your > question - if Clooz has such a copy feature, I haven't seen it yet. I > suspect not. > > I have used a similar approach to yours, in dealing with both TMG and > Clooz > at the same time, but with a few differences. Because of the lack of a > programmatic link between TMG and Clooz, I elected to enter my people into > Clooz manually rather than through the import process. That's because my > TMG database is still in relatively early stages of development, with only > about 2500 people in it, and once I have imported them, I would need to > manually enter new people that I add to TMG into both databases anyway. > And > since the Clooz person record only contains 6 fields, I don't find that a > great inconvenience. Besides that, this way the only people that I > actually > have entered in Clooz are the ones that I actually have documents for. > > So when I enter a new person into Clooz, I let it use whatever number it > wants for the primary ID. I then enter the Alternate ID from my > corresponding TMG record, and the other 5 bits of data about the person. > That way, I have a reference number between the 2 databases. The downside > is that I can never use TMG's record renumbering utility, because that > would > demolish the relationship between the records in the 2 databases. > > For what its worth, I also use 2 (at the moment) other types of alternate > IDs in Clooz. Since Clooz doesn't care what sort of value you place in > the > alternate ID field, and since those values don't have to be unique, I use > the words UNRELATED and UNKNOWN for certain people. An example of where I > find this useful is with census records (which, quite frankly, is where > most > of my experience with Clooz is at this point). Sometimes I have an > ancestor > who was doing something like living as a boarder in an unrelated person's > household. So the actual census record might have 6 or 8 individuals in > the > household, but the only 1 that I have recorded in my TMG database is my > ancestor. Depending upon who they are, sometimes I list the other > individuals in the memo field of my census tag in such a way that they > appear appropriately on my narrative reports. Those people, do, however, > have a place in my Clooz database, because, otherwise I will have a census > record in Clooz that has nothing in it except for my relative. So I put a > record for everyone who was in the household in the Clooz census record. > That is where the UNRELATED and UNKNOWN alternate IDs come in. I use > UNRELATED as an alternate ID when I absolutely know that the person has no > blood or marital relationship to my family. I use UNKNOWN when I don't > know > if there is such a relationship. So far that is working pretty well for > me, > although I freely admit that I am rather a novice at this whole genealogy > game. I'm having a real ball with it though... > > Hope this helps > Mike D. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: clooz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:clooz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Kym Lister > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:29 PM > To: CLOOZ@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CLOOZ] Copying IDs > > I imported from TMG to Clooz. I had the import include all my TMG Data > Set > ID numbers as those are the IDs I use to identify my people and I don't > use > another form of reference ID. Is there a way to copy those IDs to the > Alternate ID column? I need to do this because the TMG ID is my only > identifying reference number for all my people. As I begin using Clooz, > the new people I enter may not have been entered into TMG and received a > TMG > generated ID yet so I need to be able to leave the Alternate ID column > blank > for this use. Is there any way to do a simple copy from the ID field to > the > Alternate ID field before I start using Clooz from this point? > > Thanks! > Kym Lister > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CLOOZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CLOOZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message