Thanks for the replies Gary and Georgia. It would a pretty big drawback doing double entry. So far I don't find Clooz all that intuitive but admit that I haven't devoted hours to it. I'll have to give it some thought. So far I've been just using Excel to keep track of documents and Clooz might be a better solution than that. I have also been filing things under names rather than type of document (census etc). I'm not new to genealogy so have a lot of paper and electronic info - not much of which is organized to maximize retrieval unfortunately. I guess that no matter which method one chooses the key is to use it thorough, documenting diligently filing and re-filing etc. Right now I'm looking at a rather untidy workspace and that is where I'll start today. I think that I'll check the Legacy boards/list and see if others have talked about it there. All the best in your research Kathy -----Original Message----- From: G.Olds [mailto:oldsg@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:40 AM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Cc: kathyw@magma.ca Subject: FW: [Clooz] updating Clooz from Legacy In other words Kathy, you are back to double entry recording once you make the initial merge from Legacy to Clooz. There in lies the problem. You must be the judge whether that extra effort is worth using a separate program such as Clooz. The alternative is encouraging Legacy programmers to incorporate a cataloging module within the Legacy program itself. The ultimate solution. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL [mailto:liz@ancestordetective.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:28 PM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Clooz] updating Clooz from Legacy Kathy, instead of reading the 1.23 manual, you need to read the directions in online help within Clooz 2. Everything is explained there. I worked hard on that online help so that everything would be understandable. I'm working on the Clooz 2 manual and it should be available for download soon. But, all the directions are there for what you're trying to do. After you've linked your Clooz and Legacy databases together, you can't currently add people to Clooz that you've added to Legacy. You can, however, add people to Legacy when you're adding them to Clooz. So that's the better way to go at present. Hopefully Millennia will add that feature to Legacy. Liz Kerstens >On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:31:59 -0400 "Kathy Wallace" <kathyw@magma.ca> >writes: > > Hi - I'm new to Clooz 2.0 (still a trial user) and admit that I > > haven't read > > the entire online manual for the older version. I'm a Legacy > > Family Tree > > user and had no trouble importing data to create a Clooz database. > > I then > > started inputting data for the Canadian 1851/52 census and realized > > that the > > census gave me more people than I had in Legacy. I went back and > > added > > names for a family but, of course, they were not in the Clooz > > database. I > > then saved the updated Legacy file with a new name and tried to > > import the > > new information into Clooz. It worked - but I lost the census > > information > > that I'd been working on and when I try to access the Clooz file > > that > > matched the earlier Legacy info Can someone suggest what I should > > have > > done so that I was able to keep the Clooz census info and bring the > > new > > people in to the database so that I could link them? > > > > Thanks > > > > Kathy > > Ottawa, Canada -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 5/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 5/16/2006

I didn't see original my posting come through. Here it is again in the event it helps clarify somewhat for anyone else who may be on the fence with Clooz. Gary -----Original Message----- From: G.Olds [mailto:oldsg@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:40 AM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Cc: kathyw@magma.ca Subject: FW: [Clooz] updating Clooz from Legacy In other words Kathy, you are back to double entry recording once you make the initial merge from Legacy to Clooz. There in lies the problem. You must be the judge whether that extra effort is worth using a separate program such as Clooz. The alternative is encouraging Legacy programmers to incorporate a cataloging module within the Legacy program itself. The ultimate solution. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL [mailto:liz@ancestordetective.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:28 PM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Clooz] updating Clooz from Legacy Kathy, instead of reading the 1.23 manual, you need to read the directions in online help within Clooz 2. Everything is explained there. I worked hard on that online help so that everything would be understandable. I'm working on the Clooz 2 manual and it should be available for download soon. But, all the directions are there for what you're trying to do. After you've linked your Clooz and Legacy databases together, you can't currently add people to Clooz that you've added to Legacy. You can, however, add people to Legacy when you're adding them to Clooz. So that's the better way to go at present. Hopefully Millennia will add that feature to Legacy. Liz Kerstens >On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:31:59 -0400 "Kathy Wallace" <kathyw@magma.ca> >writes: > > Hi - I'm new to Clooz 2.0 (still a trial user) and admit that I > > haven't read > > the entire online manual for the older version. I'm a Legacy > > Family Tree > > user and had no trouble importing data to create a Clooz database. > > I then > > started inputting data for the Canadian 1851/52 census and realized > > that the > > census gave me more people than I had in Legacy. I went back and > > added > > names for a family but, of course, they were not in the Clooz > > database. I > > then saved the updated Legacy file with a new name and tried to > > import the > > new information into Clooz. It worked - but I lost the census > > information > > that I'd been working on and when I try to access the Clooz file > > that > > matched the earlier Legacy info Can someone suggest what I should > > have > > done so that I was able to keep the Clooz census info and bring the > > new > > people in to the database so that I could link them? > > > > Thanks > > > > Kathy > > Ottawa, Canada -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 5/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 5/16/2006 ______________________________

In the previous version of Clooz you could click on a button to "Preview a Report of the Current Document" on the document entry screen and then printout a copy of the document entry, census record or whatever you were viewing with the linked people and the information entered for each person. That button & option appears to be missing from the update. I looked in the online manual but I could find no mention of printing out a single document entry. The reports function does not provide this option and I found it useful to printout a copy of the Clooz information to keep with the document. Thanks for any help. Roland