I also would like to thank Liz for a wonderful product. I've been using Clooz to supplement Family Tree Maker for at least 4 years and feel that the program does exactly what it is supposed to do. The program is advertised as an "electronic filing cabinet" and that is exactly how it performs. I don't expect anything else. Every program on the market has its limitations and Clooz is no exception. I have learned to work with or around those limitations just as I have done with every other piece of software I have ever owned. I can tell from the changes in Clooz that Liz listens to what we have to say and tries to accomodate whenever practical. If only the makers of Family Tree Maker would listen so well. Sometimes it seems that others who use the program and post to the mailing list did not read the information on the website before purchasing or utilize the Help files before jumping in to the program. From reading the help files I see that Clooz has a **limited** relationship with Legacy that **could** make data entry easier. That is more than FTM users get and I don't hear any of us complaining. I think the functionality some Legacy users want would have to come from Legacy's end not Liz. And I guarantee that it would not be a "seamless" process. I have used certain other types of programs that profess to "read" FTM files. They do such a horrible job that I simply no longer use the program. I would rather do double entry (actually I use cut & paste) than have to fix an import of data. If you don't see a use for the program, don't use it. If you have a problem with Liz, send an email or letter to her to discuss the issue. If you want to "bash" Liz and/or Clooz, start another mailing list. The rest of us find the program useful and are on this mailing list to share ideas and help each other. Terri Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Garner" <jgarner@tbaytel.net> To: <clooz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [CLOOZ] Question on Clooz/Legacy Source Interaction >I have used Clooz since the first version was released and have found it to > be a very useful product. Liz has always supplied excellent supprot for > the > program. Naturally there will be those who have no use for the program > and > may complain about it. But in my opinion it performs as I expected and I > think it is great. > > If Mr. Davis is so dissatisfied with Clooz 2.0 I wonder why he bothers > with > this message board. Also if he believes those who speak out against the > program will be removed from the list, how is it that he is still on it? > > Rather than Legacy I use Clooz along with Family Tree Maker. The two go > good together. > > Keep up the good work, Liz. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Davis" <Dick.Davis@verizon.net> > To: <clooz@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: [CLOOZ] Question on Clooz/Legacy Source Interaction > > >> Gary - I am very glad you posted as I have used cloozed and was one of >> the beta testers to see the new functionality. I provided numerous >> points to make the program better, get it to where it was "not a >> re-entry" of the legacy data and provide a breakdown and such for the >> various features that could be added to make the program useful. After >> working with Liz for more than 5 months - and providing numerous design >> flows, methods of making the program a true companion - she flat out >> told me that "you don't know what you are talking about, and the program >> will remain as designed". Well at that point, I close my ability to work >> with her, and provide any new recommendations. What I have found is that >> the program is nothing more than a new interface and such for a program >> that caused more re-entry of duplicate data and really did not add to >> any analysis of research data already held. >> >> I don't know what Ken's plans are - but he could take this and run with >> it to the point that he has an outstanding product. But I think that >> this would be out of his vision for the Legacy product as he has >> provided numerous other vendors to supply companions that could easy be >> added. >> >> In summary - Clooz V2 is only a "new coat of paint" on a cracked wall >> and the plaster is falling. I have talked with a guy about a similiar >> product that would ready the Legacy data, be a true companion and would >> be able to tell you information - such as if you know the birth date, >> and location, then the marriage date and location, then the death date >> and location - well there are a number of census records that you can >> get. the scheme would create a search on the Internet and then provide >> back the results. Also, their would be a profile for an individual that >> would provide a listing of all the documents currently held, those that >> could be obtained and then if you want to create a real "to do >> research" listing. But I guess programming is a slow process and the >> development of code is tedious - but from the last communication that I >> had with him, he is progressing - just at a slower pace than I would >> want to be experiencing at this point. >> >> Also, be aware that since you spoke out against clooz, you will most >> like be removed from the list and then black listed from re-subscribing. >> Liz has a definite set of blinders on and really has not done a lot of >> true capabilty enhancements to the product. Sorry if negative, but same >> as you frustrated great with the lack of something that seems so needed >> and simple. >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CLOOZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >