I have downloaded the new version of Clooz. Do I need to uninstall the old version before I install the new version? Mike

Hi--I just installed v. 2, and I'm getting an error. However, I think the problem may be more to do with my computer than the software. I turned off and exited all Windows programs, virus and spyware programs. Installed Clooz. Then the question at the end--"Launch Clooz"--I did, instead of rebooting. At the dialog box to enter new database name (I did) then received the following: ERROR-- Project Name: Clooz Source: frmMain.SelectDatabase Description: The type initializer for "Clooz.modOpenDatabase" threw an exception I have Norton virus & spyware, Ad-Aware, Spybot, and Windows Defender (in Beta 2 phase--it just updated last week from Beta 1 phase). These were all turned off during install. Is there something else I'm missing? Thanks for any help. Betty G.

You shouldn't be prompted for anything. Please be patient. There are a lot of people trying to download at the same time. I wasn't able to download from either site just now. But I know the links are working as I tried them both this morning. I guess my websites can only handle so much traffic at one time. At 03:52 PM 5/11/2006, Markie Flint Blackmon wrote: >I'm unable to download Clooz from the ftp site. I'm being prompted >for username/password. I've tried logging in as an anonymous user, >but then I'm told to enter my email address for a password. When I >enter my email address, I get a "Login Incorrect" error message and >the connection drops. > >I've tried in both IE and Firefox. > >Anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks, >Margaret > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I'm unable to download Clooz from the ftp site. I'm being prompted for username/password. I've tried logging in as an anonymous user, but then I'm told to enter my email address for a password. When I enter my email address, I get a "Login Incorrect" error message and the connection drops. I've tried in both IE and Firefox. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Margaret

I've seen today many messages about people having trouble. The site does work, I downloaded this morning with out a hitch. I admit it does help I downloaded it on a very fast connection. Mike

I've seen today many messages about people having trouble. The site does work, I downloaded this morning with out a hitch. I admit it does help I downloaded it on a very fast connection. Mike

In case anyone else experiences this problem. I normally use Download Accelerator Plus for all my downloads. However, in trying to get Version 2, I kept getting a message 'Authorization Required' and asking for UserID and Password. In order to get the download, I had to turn off DAP and use the Windows downloader. David Williams Galiano Island, BC Canada

I forgot to add to my previous e-mail that if you downloaded the Clooz beta and installed it, you should probably uninstall it before installing the release version. Liz Kerstens

List, Clooz 2 is now available for download from http://www.clooz.com/download.htm. There are two links. I expect it will be busy initially, so if they don't work, it's because of traffic, not because the link is broken. I've tested both links. I'm working my way through the stack of orders, sending each person an e-mail with his or her serial number. I hope to be through the stack today, but if I haven't sent yours yet, please give me some time. I'm sending them one at a time. As I explained yesterday, the download is the full program in demo mode. Anyone can download the program. If you want to keep using the program after 30 days or 15 tries, you'll need to purchase the program to get a serial number. If you're not sure why you should upgrade, see http://www.clooz.com for a list of the new features in Clooz 2. Please look in Help within the program for explanations of the features within Clooz. It's searchable and easy to use. I'm working on the manual and hope to have it ready soon. It will be available free as a download from the Clooz website, and the printed version will be for sale soon. Additionally, I should have a Clooz tutorial on DVD ready soon. Thanks and I hope you enjoy the program! Liz Kerstens http://www.clooz.com

Well, hallelujah! We are trying to launch Clooz 2.0. Some of you might have jumped the gun and downloaded before I announced the release. Not a problem. I put up a setup earlier today and some folks downloaded it. My programmer tells me that's not the release setup. He's in the process of uploading the file to me so I can put it on the servers to be downloaded by you. So, I've removed the link for the time being until we get the release setup uploaded. If you did download the one that was put up earlier today, not a problem. You can use it. It's the same program, but the release setup will be minus the debugging information. So, by tomorrow morning, you should be able to download Clooz 2.0 from http://www.clooz.com/download.htm. Everyone can download it. You don't need a serial number to install the program. You'll be able to use the program in demo mode for 30 days or 15 tries. After that you'll need a serial number. If you've purchased Clooz from me, I will be going through the process of sending out serial numbers to everyone over the next day or two. Please be patient. I will get to you. I have a large stack of orders that I need to deal with. But, you will be able to use the program in the interim without the serial number. Don't worry, you'll be reminded and will be given the opportunity to enter your serial number either when you start the program or from the Help menu. I hope you feel the program has been worth the wait. I am excited to use it myself. I've got a bunch of stuff sitting waiting. Now I just need data entry time... Liz Kerstens

This is directly from Clooz Help in version 1.23: "Before you start, realize the difference between a source and a document. In short, a source is the place where you got the information and a document is the record itself, such as a census record." That's how Clooz distinguishes between the two. At 12:02 PM 4/27/2006, Doug & Cathy SCW wrote: >I understand Georgia's question to be how Clooz intends the two >fields to be used, not on general genealogical citation. We >appreciate the reference to Cindis list as a reminder, but a short >answer about how Clooz is structured would be helpful. Thank you. Cathy >----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Clark" <georgiapat@juno.com> >To: <Clooz-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:31 AM >Subject: Re: [Clooz] Source vs. Document > > >>Cindi's list has information about citing sources: >> >>http://www.cyndislist.com/citing.htm#Genealogy >> >>Georgia >>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:33:42 EDT JCAcker@aol.com writes: >>>I am new at using Clooze, and am trying the older version. Could >>>someone >>>please explain the difference between source and document entry. I >>>have always >>>considered each document a source when entering into my genealogy >>>program >>>(TMG). It looks like the document is more related to events, so I >>>am very >>>confused. Thanks >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>>Learn more: >>http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 >>&targetid=5429 >>> >>> >> >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

I understand Georgia's question to be how Clooz intends the two fields to be used, not on general genealogical citation. We appreciate the reference to Cindis list as a reminder, but a short answer about how Clooz is structured would be helpful. Thank you. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Clark" <georgiapat@juno.com> To: <Clooz-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Clooz] Source vs. Document > Cindi's list has information about citing sources: > > http://www.cyndislist.com/citing.htm#Genealogy > > Georgia > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:33:42 EDT JCAcker@aol.com writes: >> I am new at using Clooze, and am trying the older version. Could >> someone >> please explain the difference between source and document entry. I >> have always >> considered each document a source when entering into my genealogy >> program >> (TMG). It looks like the document is more related to events, so I >> am very >> confused. Thanks >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 > &targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi all-- Just wanted to update you on Clooz 2 progress. I was hoping to get Clooz 2 released this week, but it's not going to happen. We're very close, however. We're really just cleaning up some details and working on the final setup. I really hope to have it out next week, but we'll see as I'm having some outpatient surgery on Monday. Anyway, it will be released very soon. The good news is that we've managed to get all of the U.S. population census reports into this version; others will follow. I dare say I'm more anxious than you all to get the program out there, as I want to use it! As I've said before, the initial release will be a download only, as not all of the reports have been included in the program yet. So, if you've purchased the upgrade or the full version, when the program is released you'll get an e-mail with your new serial number and download instructions. Anyone will be able to download Clooz 2, as it will be in demo mode initially. You'll have 30 days to register the program with your serial number. This serial number will be different than the one you already have for earlier versions of Clooz. You MUST register the program through the Register item on the Help menu to continue to work in it. The beta that's up on the website now will expire on 30 April. I'm not going to put another beta up. The next version will be the initial release. When the program is released, if you've downloaded the beta, please uninstall the beta and delete any databases you've created with the betas before installing the new version of Clooz. You WILL have to create new databases with the release version, as we've made changes to the database structure. I hope that everyone will enjoy the new version. I'm very anxious for it to get out as I have a bunch of data entry sitting waiting for its release! Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

Cindi's list has information about citing sources: http://www.cyndislist.com/citing.htm#Genealogy Georgia On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:33:42 EDT JCAcker@aol.com writes: > I am new at using Clooze, and am trying the older version. Could > someone > please explain the difference between source and document entry. I > have always > considered each document a source when entering into my genealogy > program > (TMG). It looks like the document is more related to events, so I > am very > confused. Thanks > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 &targetid=5429 > > >

I am new at using Clooze, and am trying the older version. Could someone please explain the difference between source and document entry. I have always considered each document a source when entering into my genealogy program (TMG). It looks like the document is more related to events, so I am very confused. Thanks

I tried it and it worked for me. None of the people are there? The problem is that Clooz doesn't know the sex, so in Legacy it will be in italics until you give it a sex. I would like to ask, again, if anyone trying the beta has problems, if they would please report them to me directly. The list can't do anything about the problems in a beta. Since it's still in beta testing, I'm the one to notify about problems. At 06:13 PM 4/21/2006, Carol wrote: >Hi, > >Whenever I add a new person to Clooz, the program asks if I want to add the >new individual to Legacy. I click "yes", but when I check Legacy I cannot >find the new person in my Name List. I have checked both of my Legacy >databases (neither one has the new people), and I am working with Clooz and >Legacy open at the same time. Is this feature not functional yet? > >Carol > > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

Hi, Whenever I add a new person to Clooz, the program asks if I want to add the new individual to Legacy. I click "yes", but when I check Legacy I cannot find the new person in my Name List. I have checked both of my Legacy databases (neither one has the new people), and I am working with Clooz and Legacy open at the same time. Is this feature not functional yet? Carol

This is by design. Clooz copies sources to Legacy and Legacy copies sources to Clooz. You will have duplicates initially. And the census descriptions are described in help. At 06:07 PM 4/20/2006, David P. Williams wrote: >I am using version 2 linked to Legacy. I have just looked at my Source list >in Legacy and find that each entry has been at least duplicated. In the case >of my census sources, the entry seems to have been replicated by the number >of entries I have for that particular census. Instead of a source line for >each of the UK censuses 1841 thru 1901, I now have upwards of a hundred >source lines, each line having a three digit number appended. e.g. Instead >of just 1841 UK census, I now have 1841 UK census 001, 1841 UK census 002 >etc. Each of the replicated lines seems to be empty, in that no person is >attached to it. > >Has anyone else experienced this? > > > >David Williams > >Galiano Island, BC > >Canada > > > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

I just checked my Legacy, build 6.0.0.83 and Clooz Build 2.0.10 - I have do not have the same problem that was described by David. AOL - - DDavis5310 and Yahoo - - DickDavis60 -----Original Message----- From: David P. Williams [mailto:dpw@cablelan.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:08 PM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Clooz] Legacy Source List I am using version 2 linked to Legacy. I have just looked at my Source list in Legacy and find that each entry has been at least duplicated. In the case of my census sources, the entry seems to have been replicated by the number of entries I have for that particular census. Instead of a source line for each of the UK censuses 1841 thru 1901, I now have upwards of a hundred source lines, each line having a three digit number appended. e.g. Instead of just 1841 UK census, I now have 1841 UK census 001, 1841 UK census 002 etc. Each of the replicated lines seems to be empty, in that no person is attached to it. Has anyone else experienced this? David Williams Galiano Island, BC Canada ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

I am using version 2 linked to Legacy. I have just looked at my Source list in Legacy and find that each entry has been at least duplicated. In the case of my census sources, the entry seems to have been replicated by the number of entries I have for that particular census. Instead of a source line for each of the UK censuses 1841 thru 1901, I now have upwards of a hundred source lines, each line having a three digit number appended. e.g. Instead of just 1841 UK census, I now have 1841 UK census 001, 1841 UK census 002 etc. Each of the replicated lines seems to be empty, in that no person is attached to it. Has anyone else experienced this? David Williams Galiano Island, BC Canada