I entered the wrong repository for several sources and have had no success in making corrections. Can find no answer in the manual and would appreciate help. Thank you. Marion Riggs

I do not have Clooz but I was wondering about it and that is why I joined this list. Does everyone like it? Does it do more than what you could put into Access yourself. I have quite a few Access files and Excel files that I have created on my own. Is there anywhere you can view screen shots of the program? I think the webpage is really vague. I was unable to download the manual and the demo is not ready. Paulette

Can two files be merged without duplications or do I need to do anything before merging the two files? Cathy

Jerry, there are directions for exporting from Personal Ancestral File on page 32 of the new Clooz manual. If you don't have the new version, you can download it from http://www.clooz.com/download.htm. On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:17:37 -0500 "Jerry Holland" <[email protected]> writes: > Does anyone know if you can import people from Personal Ancestry File > into > Clooz? If so, how? > > Jerry Holland > Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS, Ancestor Detective (R) Creator of Clooz-the electronic filing cabinet for genealogical records. http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing This is a temporary e-mail address. Please reply to [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Does anyone know if you can import people from Personal Ancestry File into Clooz? If so, how? Jerry Holland

Kerry, Open your Cloozimp.txt file from your word processor and look at person 5113 and the person just after and just before that one. One of them will either have too many commas or not enough commas. You will probably run into a few more of these before the import is complete. I know I did <g>. Cheers. Sherri Hessick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm & Kerry Waye" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:46 AM Subject: [Clooz] Importing to Generations > Is there anyone out there that can help me please ... I have only just > purchased the Clooz program and have tried to import from 'Generations > Grande Suite'. > > I keep coming up with the message "Person ID must be numeric correct > person ID for: > Last Correct ID was (5113)" > > I have checked and double checked that the first field contains only > numbers and don't know what else to do. > > Best wishes > Kerry Waye > Adelaide, South Australia > > > >

Is there anyone out there that can help me please ... I have only just purchased the Clooz program and have tried to import from 'Generations Grande Suite'. I keep coming up with the message "Person ID must be numeric correct person ID for: Last Correct ID was (5113)" I have checked and double checked that the first field contains only numbers and don't know what else to do. Best wishes Kerry Waye Adelaide, South Australia

In the document section, where you list the particulars about the record, do you put the name of the father, for instance, when you know it, but it is not stated on the record? Thanks, Janet

At 06:00 AM 9/2/00 -0700, you wrote: >From: "Martha Moss" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Clooz] Serial number > > >When I tried to run the "Clooz patch program file 1.22" it asked for a >serial #. Where do I find the serial #. > >Thanks, mm Hi Martha, Go to the Clooz website at http://www.clooz.com and from there is a link to request a password. I think it's at [email protected] There is one condition to getting a serial number. You must be a registered user of Clooz, which means if you sent in your registration card, you will be in the database. If not, you will need to send in a copy of the receipt. According to the Clooz newsletter, Liz started with serial numbers because she has now included a Demo version of Clooz on the website. Hope this helps, Debbie

1. From the Hub, click Censuses. 2. Select the census record you want to edit. 3. Click the Forms and Pencil icon and edit the record. Jack [email protected] wrote: > > How do I edit a census record from the Census window? I gave it an incorrect > Personal File name and want to change it but can't figure out how to do it. > > Thanks for any help! > Janet

When I tried to run the "Clooz patch program file 1.22" it asked for a serial #. Where do I find the serial #. Thanks, mm

How do I edit a census record from the Census window? I gave it an incorrect Personal File name and want to change it but can't figure out how to do it. Thanks for any help! Janet

Margaret, We agree with Debbie - that's EXACTLY how we did our Bible records - seemed to work fine. Mike & Linda Dickson Debbie Woolard wrote: > > Hi Margaret, > > Wouldn't it just be easier to the Bible record in as a Document with maybe > the file # as something like BIBLE 0001. > > You can link each person listed on the Bible record and put the details of > say "marriage between John Doe and Janet Jones on 03 Feb 1853" or "birth of > John Doe on 01 Jan 1830" etc. in the remarks field. > > This way you would only need to enter each bible record in once, just link > the people listed on it to that file. If I had Bible records to go by (I > don't) I would probably do it something like that. Maybe "tweek" it a bit. > > Debbie > At 03:00 PM 8/31/00 -0700, you wrote: > > >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:19:39 -0500 > >From: Margaret <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [Clooz] Bible Records > > > >Hi, > > > >I've searched the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives and still haven't > >figured out how to solve entering Bible Records. > > > >I do not want to have to make 25 copies of the Bible record to place in > >a folder (i.e. Birth00001, Marr00002. Death00004.etc.). I want one copy > >filed, three max. > > > >I found one entry that recommended numbering the document as B00001, > >M00002, D00010, etc. and then listing/linking each individual in this > >manner; however this doesn't solve the date at the top of the document > >file. Additionally each person listed in the record would be a primary > >person. > > > >Document date !0 September 1847 or would I change it to 1809-1901 > > > >I've had Clooz since Saturday, (love it so far) manually entered about > >65 people and 35 documents and went with the following numbering system > >after reviewing the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives for ideas: for > >census records: NC1800-00001; VA1850-00025 > >Birth00001; Death, Marr, Corr, Land0003, etc. I will use OTH for misc. > >records and eventually will add military, obits, etc. I will be into the > >next millennium adding all my documents (17 years- all in files, boxes, > >cabinets, drawers, trunk of my car- get the picture- the personification > >of disorganization) > > > >I started large 3 ring binders and have placed birth, death, and > >marriage in one (will move to three as these fill up- they have dividers > >between each section. I have one notebook for census records as it will > >fill fast and will have to have one for obits pretty quick. > > > >Please give me ideas for these Bible records and also census records. I > >created one record for state Z, County, B, Dist 2 and then just changed > >the family/dwelling number and linked every single individual in one > >district (in progress). Would it be better to have a separate file # for > >each household? What works and keeps the filing down? Again, I do not > >want several copies of the same record to file in more than one place. > > > >Thanks for any assistance to this newbie Clooz User, > >Margaret Tull

Margaret, I had a similar question a while back and a couple of people responded with a very good suggestion that I think would work here- might not be "perfect" but if you don't get too hung up on having every field filled out within Clooz it is a suitable way to handle documents with more than one event. If you name the document Bible001 and for each event assign it an additional lower case label, it works. That way, the document has only one filed copy in whatever folder you like, but the various events can be listed seperately: Example: Bible001a John Doe birth Bible001b John Doe marriage to Jane Smith Bible001c John Doe death Bible001d Jane Smith Doe death etc. I label the document as Bible001 and then add a card in the sleeve that shows the breakout with the small letters and associated events. If it is not an original document, I also lightly pencil in the lower case letters by each event right on the photocopy of the document for easy identification later. When you are working in Clooz and find an event that is marked Bible001d after doing a person report on Jane Smith, you will easily find the document marked Bible001. Then just look for the lower case letter in that document and you've got it. Hope this is helpful. Lori << Hi Margaret, Wouldn't it just be easier to the Bible record in as a Document with maybe the file # as something like BIBLE 0001. You can link each person listed on the Bible record and put the details of say "marriage between John Doe and Janet Jones on 03 Feb 1853" or "birth of John Doe on 01 Jan 1830" etc. in the remarks field. This way you would only need to enter each bible record in once, just link the people listed on it to that file. If I had Bible records to go by (I don't) I would probably do it something like that. Maybe "tweek" it a bit. Debbie At 03:00 PM 8/31/00 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:19:39 -0500 >From: Margaret <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Clooz] Bible Records > >Hi, > >I've searched the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives and still haven't >figured out how to solve entering Bible Records. > >I do not want to have to make 25 copies of the Bible record to place in >a folder (i.e. Birth00001, Marr00002. Death00004.etc.). I want one copy >filed, three max. > >I found one entry that recommended numbering the document as B00001, >M00002, D00010, etc. and then listing/linking each individual in this >manner; however this doesn't solve the date at the top of the document >file. Additionally each person listed in the record would be a primary >person. > >Document date !0 September 1847 or would I change it to 1809-1901 > >I've had Clooz since Saturday, (love it so far) manually entered about >65 people and 35 documents and went with the following numbering system >after reviewing the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives for ideas: for >census records: NC1800-00001; VA1850-00025 >Birth00001; Death, Marr, Corr, Land0003, etc. I will use OTH for misc. >records and eventually will add military, obits, etc. I will be into the >next millennium adding all my documents (17 years- all in files, boxes, >cabinets, drawers, trunk of my car- get the picture- the personification >of disorganization) > >I started large 3 ring binders and have placed birth, death, and >marriage in one (will move to three as these fill up- they have dividers >between each section. I have one notebook for census records as it will >fill fast and will have to have one for obits pretty quick. > >Please give me ideas for these Bible records and also census records. I >created one record for state Z, County, B, Dist 2 and then just changed >the family/dwelling number and linked every single individual in one >district (in progress). Would it be better to have a separate file # for >each household? What works and keeps the filing down? Again, I do not >want several copies of the same record to file in more than one place. > >Thanks for any assistance to this newbie Clooz User, >Margaret Tull >>

Hi Margaret, Wouldn't it just be easier to the Bible record in as a Document with maybe the file # as something like BIBLE 0001. You can link each person listed on the Bible record and put the details of say "marriage between John Doe and Janet Jones on 03 Feb 1853" or "birth of John Doe on 01 Jan 1830" etc. in the remarks field. This way you would only need to enter each bible record in once, just link the people listed on it to that file. If I had Bible records to go by (I don't) I would probably do it something like that. Maybe "tweek" it a bit. Debbie At 03:00 PM 8/31/00 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:19:39 -0500 >From: Margaret <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Clooz] Bible Records > >Hi, > >I've searched the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives and still haven't >figured out how to solve entering Bible Records. > >I do not want to have to make 25 copies of the Bible record to place in >a folder (i.e. Birth00001, Marr00002. Death00004.etc.). I want one copy >filed, three max. > >I found one entry that recommended numbering the document as B00001, >M00002, D00010, etc. and then listing/linking each individual in this >manner; however this doesn't solve the date at the top of the document >file. Additionally each person listed in the record would be a primary >person. > >Document date !0 September 1847 or would I change it to 1809-1901 > >I've had Clooz since Saturday, (love it so far) manually entered about >65 people and 35 documents and went with the following numbering system >after reviewing the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives for ideas: for >census records: NC1800-00001; VA1850-00025 >Birth00001; Death, Marr, Corr, Land0003, etc. I will use OTH for misc. >records and eventually will add military, obits, etc. I will be into the >next millennium adding all my documents (17 years- all in files, boxes, >cabinets, drawers, trunk of my car- get the picture- the personification >of disorganization) > >I started large 3 ring binders and have placed birth, death, and >marriage in one (will move to three as these fill up- they have dividers >between each section. I have one notebook for census records as it will >fill fast and will have to have one for obits pretty quick. > >Please give me ideas for these Bible records and also census records. I >created one record for state Z, County, B, Dist 2 and then just changed >the family/dwelling number and linked every single individual in one >district (in progress). Would it be better to have a separate file # for >each household? What works and keeps the filing down? Again, I do not >want several copies of the same record to file in more than one place. > >Thanks for any assistance to this newbie Clooz User, >Margaret Tull

Hi, I've searched the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives and still haven't figured out how to solve entering Bible Records. I do not want to have to make 25 copies of the Bible record to place in a folder (i.e. Birth00001, Marr00002. Death00004.etc.). I want one copy filed, three max. I found one entry that recommended numbering the document as B00001, M00002, D00010, etc. and then listing/linking each individual in this manner; however this doesn't solve the date at the top of the document file. Additionally each person listed in the record would be a primary person. Document date !0 September 1847 or would I change it to 1809-1901 I've had Clooz since Saturday, (love it so far) manually entered about 65 people and 35 documents and went with the following numbering system after reviewing the 1999 and 2000 mailing list archives for ideas: for census records: NC1800-00001; VA1850-00025 Birth00001; Death, Marr, Corr, Land0003, etc. I will use OTH for misc. records and eventually will add military, obits, etc. I will be into the next millennium adding all my documents (17 years- all in files, boxes, cabinets, drawers, trunk of my car- get the picture- the personification of disorganization) I started large 3 ring binders and have placed birth, death, and marriage in one (will move to three as these fill up- they have dividers between each section. I have one notebook for census records as it will fill fast and will have to have one for obits pretty quick. Please give me ideas for these Bible records and also census records. I created one record for state Z, County, B, Dist 2 and then just changed the family/dwelling number and linked every single individual in one district (in progress). Would it be better to have a separate file # for each household? What works and keeps the filing down? Again, I do not want several copies of the same record to file in more than one place. Thanks for any assistance to this newbie Clooz User, Margaret Tull

If I have version 1.21, is it necessary to download 1.22 or does 1.22 contain all that I already have? Thanks for any help. Janet

At 05:19 PM 8/29/00 -0400, [email protected] wrote: > When I started using Clooz a couple of months ago I imported my entire >list of people from TMG. For many reasons I now wish I could just enter >people one at a time as I need them. > > Is it possible to delete everyone? What happens to those I've already >attached to documents? If you try to delete a person who is attached to documents (from within Clooz), you'll get an error message telling you there is a relationship between that person and other documents. You won't be able to delete the person until you've unlinked him/her from the documents. > Can I delete everyone all at once? If not, can I delete one at a time? >(I hate to think how long that will take.) No, you can't delete everyone all at once unless you go into your database through Access 97 or Access 2000. Yes, you can delete one at a time. Double click on the person's name from the People list and then click on the red X on the toolbar. Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

When I started using Clooz a couple of months ago I imported my entire list of people from TMG. For many reasons I now wish I could just enter people one at a time as I need them. Is it possible to delete everyone? What happens to those I've already attached to documents? Can I delete everyone all at once? If not, can I delete one at a time? (I hate to think how long that will take.) I'd appreciate any help about this. Lillian Cain

Carol asked re importing from TMG. I initially had problems the people. As I recall my list had some extraneous punctuation mark (maybe quotes??). Once I removed the punctuation mark, the list came in very easily. However, if I had it to do over again, I don't think I'd import the people. This list has had a discussion about importing an entire database or entering one at a time as needed. I think most import. I wish I had simply printed out my entire TMG list of people and then entered as needed. Many of my Clooz documents list the women by their married names, and I have to figure out who they are anyway. I think a printed TMG list of people and a TMG list of married couples (alphabetical by wife's maiden name) kept by my computer would be as quick as getting them from Clooz. That way if I asked for a list of people in Clooz I would only get the ones that I've entered into the program. I use TMG for my genealogical research and only use Clooz to keep track of my documents. I use the Clooz document template for everything and only put in a minimum amount of info. I'm glad I have Clooz because I'm slowly getting all my zeroxed genealogical info put away (where I can find it). When I go to the library, once I'm finished, I'll know what I've already xeroxed. Lillian Cain