If all you have is floppies to save to, you'll need to get a program such as WinZip (www.winzip.com) to make the file smaller to fit on your floppy. At 01:19 PM 2/2/01 -0800, pjnvr wrote: >I am getting the error message, "The file being copied is too large for >the destination drive. If possible insert a highter-capacity disk," >whenever I try to save my CLOOZ files to a 1.44 floppy disk. I thought I >had done this in the past but cannot remember how I did it or where to >find how to do it again. Will you help me, please? > >Thanks, > >Velma > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

David, What a good question. I will be waiting to hear some comments. I have only assigned one reference number, but some folks might do it differently. Don -----Original Message----- From: David J. Crowell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 2:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Several Surnames on single page of Directory List,When multiple Surnames are list on a single page, should only one Personal File # be assigned to that page, or should a Personal File # be assinged for each Surname, and like Surnames filed id separate file folders? Thank you, davidc ============================== 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/

List,When multiple Surnames are list on a single page, should only one Personal File # be assigned to that page, or should a Personal File # be assinged for each Surname, and like Surnames filed id separate file folders? Thank you, davidc

Hello I had a problem with my computer and lost my info, however I did have some backup. My question, my file on a zip drive with the extension .mdb, I open it with Clooz, but then there is no info when it is done loading. Where did my info go? Maria

Gail & Ron I have been able to create reports using the existing Clooz database without linking to a blank database. Just use the Clooz database as you would any other and create reports. Gail Budda wrote: > Ron - I was able to create a new, blank database in Access 2000 then link to the clooz database I had created for my family. After doing that, you would be able to create whatever reports you wanted. It would be important to link the tables rather than copy them, however, as you would want to be able to create and run reports from current tables. > > Access is a very expensive program. I am not certain if the database provided with MS Works would be sufficient to the task - does anyone else know? > > Gail > > Ron Adams wrote: > > > Access 97/2000 Users: > > > > I have the Stand-Alone Version of Clooz and I wonder if those of you who have either Access 97 or 2000 can create and print custom reports. I am not totally satisfied with printing the standard reports because most of them are too elaborate for my use and take too much paper. However, they are find for looking up information on the screen. Also, I would like to be able to chose which fields to print and how to sort them. If the Access Version does provide these options, I need to consider purchasing Access and that version of Clooz. > > > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > > > Ron Adams > > > > Neighbor to Historical Fort Atkinson that overlooks the Missouri River Valley from Nebraska. > > > > ============================== > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/

Ron - I was able to create a new, blank database in Access 2000 then link to the clooz database I had created for my family. After doing that, you would be able to create whatever reports you wanted. It would be important to link the tables rather than copy them, however, as you would want to be able to create and run reports from current tables. Access is a very expensive program. I am not certain if the database provided with MS Works would be sufficient to the task - does anyone else know? Gail Ron Adams wrote: > Access 97/2000 Users: > > I have the Stand-Alone Version of Clooz and I wonder if those of you who have either Access 97 or 2000 can create and print custom reports. I am not totally satisfied with printing the standard reports because most of them are too elaborate for my use and take too much paper. However, they are find for looking up information on the screen. Also, I would like to be able to chose which fields to print and how to sort them. If the Access Version does provide these options, I need to consider purchasing Access and that version of Clooz. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Ron Adams > > Neighbor to Historical Fort Atkinson that overlooks the Missouri River Valley from Nebraska. > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

Just received my copy of Clooz. Unfortunately when I install, it first asks for the serial number [on the back of the jewel case] and then the password. Neither of these things are mentioned anywhere I can find, not on the CD, not on the jewel case, not on my order paperwork and not in the manual. So now the computer thinks Clooz is installed but the icon is not up, nothing I click on will bring up the program and putting the installation CD back in only prompts another request for the elusive password. I have sent two emails to Clooz support with no replies. Should I uninstall the whole thing? Should I send it all back and request a refund? Help!

Access 97/2000 Users: I have the Stand-Alone Version of Clooz and I wonder if those of you who have either Access 97 or 2000 can create and print custom reports. I am not totally satisfied with printing the standard reports because most of them are too elaborate for my use and take too much paper. However, they are find for looking up information on the screen. Also, I would like to be able to chose which fields to print and how to sort them. If the Access Version does provide these options, I need to consider purchasing Access and that version of Clooz. Any advice would be appreciated. Ron Adams Neighbor to Historical Fort Atkinson that overlooks the Missouri River Valley from Nebraska.

I am getting the error message, "The file being copied is too large for the destination drive. If possible insert a highter-capacity disk," whenever I try to save my CLOOZ files to a 1.44 floppy disk. I thought I had done this in the past but cannot remember how I did it or where to find how to do it again. Will you help me, please? Thanks, Velma

--WebTV-Mail-30935-1610 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit unsubscribe http://community.webtv.net/n5khs/Larry Peterson, Notary Public --WebTV-Mail-30935-1610 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by storefull-286.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 445A0172; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:21:47 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id D390C134 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f113HCF13303; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:17:12 -0800 Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:17:12 -0800 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Wed Jan 31 19:17:12 2001 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Kay Allen Groves" <[email protected]> Old-To: "Clooz" <[email protected]> Subject: Subject heading Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:16:06 -0800 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/12 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] For the past few weeks the "Clooz-L" heading has been missing from the Listers' messages subject line. I believe this was due to a crash of sorts at Rootsweb and other lists have had to re-enter their headings. I hope someone can fix this because there may be messages I miss as I am inclined not to open e-mail that I don't recognize. -kay thesarge ============================== Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp --WebTV-Mail-30935-1610--

For the past few weeks the "Clooz-L" heading has been missing from the Listers' messages subject line. I believe this was due to a crash of sorts at Rootsweb and other lists have had to re-enter their headings. I hope someone can fix this because there may be messages I miss as I am inclined not to open e-mail that I don't recognize. -kay thesarge

At 01:05 PM 1/31/01 -0500, Clyde M. Watson, Jr. wrote: >1. I have inadvertently deleted a database. Fortunately, I do have a >backup on a floppy disk. However, I do not know how to restore a Clooz >datebase from the floppy and I cannot find it in the manual. So, I need >some help on this one. Open Windows Explorer (right click on Start and select Explore). Find the file on your floppy and click and drag it to the folder where you want it to be on your hard drive. That's it. If you don't know how to use Windows Explorer, there are instructions in Start/Help. >2. Can you rename a database, and if so, how do you do it? The manual >tells how to rename an archived file, but I do not find anything about >renaming a database. It would be the same process. An archived file is a database. >3. Another concern!: Fairly often when I exit Clooz the screen >freezes. So far I have been able to "unfreeze" it by using "Endtask" >and have not lost anything when this happens, but it is annoying. >Anyone know how to fix this? I don't know why this is happening. You might try uninstalling and reinstalling Clooz to see if it makes a difference. >4. A curiosity question!!! I notice that Clooz creates an Access file >for some of the surnames I have entered, but by no means all. Since I >have Clooz 1.22 stand-alone version I cannot open these files >individually outside of Clooz, so I don't know what's in them. Anybody >know anything about this? I don't know what you mean by this. The only file that is created using Clooz is the database you create. And all of your people are in it. Why do you say Clooz creates an Access file for some of your surnames but not all? You have to input data into Clooz. Clooz doesn't do anything on its own. Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

1. I have inadvertently deleted a database. Fortunately, I do have a backup on a floppy disk. However, I do not know how to restore a Clooz datebase from the floppy and I cannot find it in the manual. So, I need some help on this one. 2. Can you rename a database, and if so, how do you do it? The manual tells how to rename an archived file, but I do not find anything about renaming a database. 3. Another concern!: Fairly often when I exit Clooz the screen freezes. So far I have been able to "unfreeze" it by using "Endtask" and have not lost anything when this happens, but it is annoying. Anyone know how to fix this? 4. A curiosity question!!! I notice that Clooz creates an Access file for some of the surnames I have entered, but by no means all. Since I have Clooz 1.22 stand-alone version I cannot open these files individually outside of Clooz, so I don't know what's in them. Anybody know anything about this? Any and all help greatly appreciated. Clyde Watson

Good Morning, I need a little help please. I am putting thumbnail photos into CLOOZ and when I print the report out the photos are all distorted. I am resizing them before I put them in to make sure that one side is an inch but they always seem to come out wide on the "preview person with all documents" report. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Velma

I have been burned badly by Windows in the past when I made a backup of a file and then discovered (after the program crashed) that my backup was also corrupted. Since that time I have always saved the last two backups. It's possible to back up one's file and then verify that it is not corrupt before deleting the previous backup, but I'm not nearly THAT efficient. Doug

My Clooz databases ( I have two) are in My Documents as are the archived ones with the dates. Any time that I archive, I also copy the archived database to a floppy plus I trash any previous dated archived copies of the same database. That means for each database My Documents has only the original (example: Keren) and the most recent archive (example: 01/23/01Keren). Is this right or does it work differently? Keren

>Hi, I realized I haven't seen this request answered, so I thought I'd >describe what my files look like. > >Every time you archive, a new file is created. It is called the same name as >your database, except the date is at the front (today's archive would be >"010122filename.mdb"). They are in the same location as the original >database. To save it elsewhere (on floppy), you need to copy/paste it using >explorer. > >To use an archived file, you open clooz, but click on the "browse" button >(the folder button that's on the first dialog box). Browse to the location >of the file, click it, and then select it. > >If you just double click on the file in explorer, it will open Access (if >you have the Access version, anyway), but the result is NOT the familiar >clooz setup. Personally, I wouldn't know how to use the files in Access w/o >the clooz "packaging". > >Tina > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Clyde M. Watson, Jr." <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 4:20 PM >Subject: Archive/Backup > > > > I've been using Clooz a short time, getting names in, etc. I'm unclear > > about just how the Archive function works. Each time I exit Clooz I do > > click on Archive. Where does the archived file go and how do I access > > it??? I have gone into Windows Explorer and there are 7 files that I > > think are archived files, but I'm not sure. When I try to open one of > > them I get a blank dark screen. All 7 are 424KB. I'm adding data each > > time I use clooz, so if these are my archived files why are they all the > > same size? And why do I have 7? If each time I archive the file it > > overwrites the previously archived file how have I accumulated 7 > > archived files, each taking up 424KB on hard drive. I have tried to > > delete the oldest one and get the message that this file cannot be > > deleted. The only help the Manual offers is to say you should "Archive" > > frequently and that you should copy archived file onto floppy disks. > > Assuming that the 7 files I've found are my archived files, how do I > > move an archived file to a floppy disk? I've not been able to do this. > > I would like to get archived file onto a floppy disk and off my hard > > drive. It would sure be nice if I could just backup my data straight to > > a floppy like I can with my genealogy program (TMG). > > > > Help please, > > Clyde Watson > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

I have not had exactly this problem, but I am using CLOOZ to tracking some research that I am performing. Basically, I wanted to record the information from different references, among them books concerning the research SURNAMES. Since this was a unique project, I just assigned a reference number to the book. This worked fine for the book, but when I wanted to link the SURNAMES to the reference, I found I needed to add each SURNAME to the people list. As I continued my research, I extracted some information from a SOUNDEX file, and realized that if I used the census forms, I would also have to add the individual names. Since this was more than I desired to do, I will be using the correspondence document category, as it seems to fit my needs. Maybe a generic extract document category should be added. Not sure. Anyway, in answer to your question, you could use anything you wanted to, but I would not include the speccific surname. Your reference number should refer to the entire source, not portions of the source. That is what the linking to specific name provides. Don McNeeley -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, CGRS [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 5:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Fwd: Document number for books >What kind of personal file number should I use for books or articles in >journals that I own? I won't be making copies of them. But I would like >to reference everyone mentioned in these sources. > >For example, I have a book called "Old Families of Louisiana". It is >broken down into sections by family name. Because so many people are >mentioned in this book, I would like to break down my Clooz document >groupings by these sections. > >So, the source would be "Old Families of Louisiana". And let's say one of >the sections I'm referencing is "Watts". Any suggestions as to what I >should use for the Document number? Book-Watts? Book-OFL-Watts? (I >thought I should perhaps start the document number with "Book" because it >is filed with my books.) > >Has anyone else run into something like this? > > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com ============================== Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life If you know how to reduce these risks. http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

Hi, I realized I haven't seen this request answered, so I thought I'd describe what my files look like. Every time you archive, a new file is created. It is called the same name as your database, except the date is at the front (today's archive would be "010122filename.mdb"). They are in the same location as the original database. To save it elsewhere (on floppy), you need to copy/paste it using explorer. To use an archived file, you open clooz, but click on the "browse" button (the folder button that's on the first dialog box). Browse to the location of the file, click it, and then select it. If you just double click on the file in explorer, it will open Access (if you have the Access version, anyway), but the result is NOT the familiar clooz setup. Personally, I wouldn't know how to use the files in Access w/o the clooz "packaging". Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde M. Watson, Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: Archive/Backup > I've been using Clooz a short time, getting names in, etc. I'm unclear > about just how the Archive function works. Each time I exit Clooz I do > click on Archive. Where does the archived file go and how do I access > it??? I have gone into Windows Explorer and there are 7 files that I > think are archived files, but I'm not sure. When I try to open one of > them I get a blank dark screen. All 7 are 424KB. I'm adding data each > time I use clooz, so if these are my archived files why are they all the > same size? And why do I have 7? If each time I archive the file it > overwrites the previously archived file how have I accumulated 7 > archived files, each taking up 424KB on hard drive. I have tried to > delete the oldest one and get the message that this file cannot be > deleted. The only help the Manual offers is to say you should "Archive" > frequently and that you should copy archived file onto floppy disks. > Assuming that the 7 files I've found are my archived files, how do I > move an archived file to a floppy disk? I've not been able to do this. > I would like to get archived file onto a floppy disk and off my hard > drive. It would sure be nice if I could just backup my data straight to > a floppy like I can with my genealogy program (TMG). > > Help please, > Clyde Watson > > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

>What kind of personal file number should I use for books or articles in >journals that I own? I won't be making copies of them. But I would like >to reference everyone mentioned in these sources. > >For example, I have a book called "Old Families of Louisiana". It is >broken down into sections by family name. Because so many people are >mentioned in this book, I would like to break down my Clooz document >groupings by these sections. > >So, the source would be "Old Families of Louisiana". And let's say one of >the sections I'm referencing is "Watts". Any suggestions as to what I >should use for the Document number? Book-Watts? Book-OFL-Watts? (I >thought I should perhaps start the document number with "Book" because it >is filed with my books.) > >Has anyone else run into something like this? > > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com