... DO NOT delete this line of text. This is a Windows system file that helps recreate long file names if they get corrupted. A warning about this hoax appears in today's version of the Dallas Morning News, page 10D. DICK FOLKERTH Dallas

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Lindley" <[email protected]> To: "Marianne Lindley (Girten)" <[email protected]> Cc: "Yvonne Robinson" <[email protected]>; "William Weber" <[email protected]>; "Wade Hamiel" <[email protected]>; "Virgene Hanna" <[email protected]>; "Vickie M. Main" <[email protected]>; "Vicki Akenhead" <[email protected]>; "Uncle Freek and Aunt Yoshiko" <[email protected]>; "Tracy Manning" <[email protected]>; "Tracy (at FHC Tuesdays)" <[email protected]>; "Tina Kautter" <[email protected]>; "Thomas Dillon" <[email protected]>; "The Mark Reilly Family" <[email protected]>; "Teresa Bishop" <[email protected]>; "Suzanne and Keith Dahlberg" <[email protected]>; "Susan Soderberg" <[email protected]>; "Sue Campbell" <[email protected]>; "Sue and Lance Warnick" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Steven D. Smith" <[email protected]>; "Spam Stoppers" <[email protected]>; "Sharon M. Smith" <[email protected]>; "Sandra Mierop" <[email protected]>; "Sandi Bennett" <[email protected]>; "Ruth Heffington (Union Co.)" <[email protected]>; "Ruth Ann Jennings" <[email protected]>; "Rosie Scott" <[email protected]>; "Ronn and Rita King" <[email protected]>; "Robin Lindley" <[email protected]>; "Robb and Samantha Tracie" <[email protected]>; "Rick Greenspan" <[email protected]>; "Reesa Parker" <[email protected]>; "Ray Thibault" <[email protected]>; "Pien" <[email protected]>; "Phil and Chizu Lindley" <[email protected]>; "Peggy Antone" <[email protected]>; "Peg Ronish" <[email protected]>; "Paul Lindley" <[email protected]>; "Patrick Ivers" <[email protected]>; "Patrick and Kelly Reilly" <[email protected]>; "Pam Pressley" <[email protected]>; "Pacific Rim Reporting" <[email protected]>; "Mum and/or James" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Michael and Barbara Inman" <[email protected]>; "Michae Hall (U.S. Courts)" <[email protected]>; "Merilyn Sanchez" <[email protected]>; "Mary Vavrik" <[email protected]>; "Marty (St. Louis whiz) Walsh" <[email protected]>; "Maellen Pittman" <[email protected]>; "Lynda Batchelor" <[email protected]>; "Lisa Shaffer" <[email protected]>; "Lisa Nagy-Baker" <[email protected]>; "Linda Snider" <[email protected]>; "Linda Gerberding" <[email protected]>; "Leslie J. Knisley" <[email protected]>; "Leseman_Wendy" <[email protected]>; "Lenny DiPaolo" <[email protected]>; "KY (Young Library) Ref. Desk" <[email protected]>; "Kim Kachelmuss" <[email protected]>; "Kim Behrens" <[email protected]>; "Kevin King" <[email protected]>; "Kelly and Mike in Colorado" <[email protected]>; "Keith Lemons" <[email protected]>; "Kathy Novak" <[email protected]>; "Kathy Bush" <[email protected]>; "Kathleen Slocum" <[email protected]>; "Karilyn Lindley" <[email protected]>; "Karen Y Chalem" <[email protected]>; "Karen Ford" <[email protected]>; "Karen Carlson" <[email protected]>; "Judy Houska" <[email protected]>; "Joy Brauer" <[email protected]>; "Jeanine Huston" <[email protected]>; "James Roberts" <[email protected]>; "Harry & Vicki Sinz" <[email protected]>; "Ginger and Mark Martens" <[email protected]>; "Gary Brooking" <[email protected]>; "Gail Ruth Peckham" <[email protected]>; "Eric Baldwin" <[email protected]>; "Eric and Becky Nutt" <[email protected]>; "Eileen Formento" <[email protected]>; "Edward Girten" <[email protected]>; "Ed's family" <[email protected]>; "Diane Dorwart" <[email protected]>; "Deirdre Radcliffe" <[email protected]>; "Deb Anderson" <[email protected]>; "Deb and Wayne Anderson" <[email protected]>; "Deanna Baker" <[email protected]>; "Davenport Iowa Library" <[email protected]>; "Dave Dawley" <[email protected]>; "Danni Kennedy" <[email protected]>; "Clooz list" <[email protected]>; "Chuck Blanfrd" <[email protected]>; "Carol McCue" <[email protected]>; "Bryce and Mary Healy" <[email protected]>; "Ann LeRoy" <[email protected]>; "Ann Forte" <[email protected]>; "Angela Ard-Peronto" <[email protected]>; "Amanda Lindley" <[email protected]>; "Alaska Steno" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: URGENT -- DO NOT REMOVE SULFNBK: Re: I found this on mine, too. > THE VIRUS ALERT IS A HOAX EMAIL!!!! > > This file is a real file that must be on your pc. Here is an article about > it: > > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html > > -Paul (Marianne's brother) > > "Marianne Lindley (Girten)" wrote: > > > > Please act URGENTLY. > > VIRUS could be in your computer files now, dormant but >will become active > > on June 1. > > PLEASE FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > > > This virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it and to my surprise I > > found it in my computers. > > > > follow the directions and remove it from yours TODAY!!!!!!! > > > > No Virus software can detect it. It will become active on June 1, 2001. It > > might be too late by then. It wipes out all files and folders on the hard > > drive. > > This virus travels thru E-mail and migrates to the 'C:\windows\command' > > folder. > > > > To find it and get rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > > > > Go to the "START" button. > > > Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > > Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > > Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" drive. > > > Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > > Click begin search. > > > If it finds it, highlight it. > > > Go to 'File' and delete it. > > > Close the find Dialog box > > > Open the Recycle Bin > > > Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > try the above again, just to make sure it was removed. > > > > > You should be safe. > > > > The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. Many major companies > > have > > found this virus on their computers. Send this to all your friends > > !!!!!!!! > > Mike Aridi >

This is a HOAX. That file is the one that lets you use longer file names. Just for your information there is a site to check for viruses to see if they're real or a hoax. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html Just click on this link to go directly to the page. Be sure to check before you send it to all your friends because these things travel like wildfire and really shake people up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Lindley (Girten)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: [Clooz] I found this on mine, too. > Please act URGENTLY> > If it finds it, highlight it.

DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS NOT A VIRUS!!!!!!!!! THIS IS A SICK HOAX AND THIS FILE IS VITAL TO YOUR COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "This particular email message is a hoax. The file that is mentioned in the hoax, however, Sulfnbk.exe, is a Microsoft Windows utility that is used to restore long file names, and like any .exe file, it can be infected by a virus that targets .exe files. The virus/worm [email protected] can arrive as an attachment named Sulfnbk.exe. The Sulfnbk.exe file used by Windows is located in the C:\Windows\Command folder. If the file is located in any other folder, or arrives as an attachment to a email message, then it is possible that the file is infected. In this case, if a scan with the latest virus definitions and with NAV set to scan all files does not detect the file as being infected, quarantine and submit the file to SARC for analysis by following the instructions in the document How to submit a file to SARC using Scan and Deliver. If you have deleted the Sulfnbk.exe file from the C:\Windows\Command folder and want to know how to restore the file, you should contact your computer manufacturer or Microsoft for assistance. As an alternative, If you are running Windows 98 or Windows Me, see the document How to extract files in Safe Mode under Windows 98 or Windows Millennium." http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html Sherry *+*+*+**+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* On 5/30/01 at 9:36 AM Marianne Lindley \(Girten\) wrote: >Please act URGENTLY. >VIRUS could be in your computer files now, dormant but >will become active >on June 1. >PLEASE FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT AND TO REMOVE IT >NOW. > >This virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it and to my surprise >I >found it in my computers. > >follow the directions and remove it from yours TODAY!!!!!!! > >No Virus software can detect it. It will become active on June 1, 2001. It >might be too late by then. It wipes out all files and folders on the hard >drive. >This virus travels thru E-mail and migrates to the 'C:\windows\command' >folder. > >To find it and get rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > > Go to the "START" button. > > Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" drive. > > Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > Click begin search. > > If it finds it, highlight it. > > Go to 'File' and delete it. > > Close the find Dialog box > > Open the Recycle Bin > > Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin >try the above again, just to make sure it was removed. > > > You should be safe. > > The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. Many major companies >have > found this virus on their computers. Send this to all your friends >!!!!!!!! >Mike Aridi > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Please act URGENTLY. VIRUS could be in your computer files now, dormant but >will become active on June 1. PLEASE FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. This virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it and to my surprise I found it in my computers. follow the directions and remove it from yours TODAY!!!!!!! No Virus software can detect it. It will become active on June 1, 2001. It might be too late by then. It wipes out all files and folders on the hard drive. This virus travels thru E-mail and migrates to the 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > Go to the "START" button. > Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" drive. > Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > Click begin search. > If it finds it, highlight it. > Go to 'File' and delete it. > Close the find Dialog box > Open the Recycle Bin > Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin try the above again, just to make sure it was removed. > You should be safe. The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. Many major companies have found this virus on their computers. Send this to all your friends !!!!!!!! Mike Aridi

Robert, I hate to say it but the only way you can do that without starting over is to type in the numbers one at a time. However, if you put the TMG number in the PersonID field, you do have the TMG number in your database, it's just in the PersonID field. At 11:53 PM 5/29/01 -0500, Robert V. Montague wrote: >When I was a newbie learning Clooz I did an import of 6000 names from TMG >without changing PersonID to AlternatePersonID. Now I don't have TMG >numbers in Clooz for those first 6000. The next time I imported 1000 >additional people I did it properly by changing PersonID to >AlternatePersonID per the Clooz manual. Question is: Can I go back and >get those first 6,000 TMG ID numbers into the Clooz alt ID field? Thanks > >Robert V. Montague >2500 Cypress Point Cir. >Navarre FL 32566 >850-936-0188 > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS, CGL Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

At 08:28 PM 5/29/01 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >Liz, > You wrote that "Clooz is being transitioned to Visual Basic. It's too >hard to keep up with Microsoft's version changes, so there will only be one >version of Clooz under Visual Basic. The database you create will still be a >Microsoft Access .mdb database." > > Does this mean that when you transition Clooz to Visual Basic that I > will >still be able to read all my Clooz files in Access97 and make my own reports >in Access if I wish? Do you have any idea when your Visual Basic will be out >& what the cost will be for your current Cloozers? Yes, that's what I mean. We're just starting the transition, so I don't know when the new version will be ready and I've learned not to predict. I also don't know the cost, but it will be reasonable, but more than the current upgrade. Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS, CGL Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

When I was a newbie learning Clooz I did an import of 6000 names from TMG without changing PersonID to AlternatePersonID. Now I don't have TMG numbers in Clooz for those first 6000. The next time I imported 1000 additional people I did it properly by changing PersonID to AlternatePersonID per the Clooz manual. Question is: Can I go back and get those first 6,000 TMG ID numbers into the Clooz alt ID field? Thanks Robert V. Montague 2500 Cypress Point Cir. Navarre FL 32566 850-936-0188

Liz, You wrote that "Clooz is being transitioned to Visual Basic. It's too hard to keep up with Microsoft's version changes, so there will only be one version of Clooz under Visual Basic. The database you create will still be a Microsoft Access .mdb database." Does this mean that when you transition Clooz to Visual Basic that I will still be able to read all my Clooz files in Access97 and make my own reports in Access if I wish? Do you have any idea when your Visual Basic will be out & what the cost will be for your current Cloozers? Thank you, Lillian Cain

Clooz works with Windows 2000 and Windows ME. I haven't seen Access XP and probably won't be making a Clooz version to work with it as Clooz is being transitioned to Visual Basic. It's too hard to keep up with Microsoft's version changes, so there will only be one version of Clooz under Visual Basic. The database you create will still be a Microsoft Access .mdb database. At 08:41 PM 5/27/01 -0400, Mary Brenzel wrote: >Good question! I just got a new computer which has Windows ME. >Unfortunately, I don't have Access yet as I'm waiting for Office XP to >arrive in the next week or so. > >Elizabeth, will Clooz work with Access XP? > >Mary > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sherry" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:18 PM >Subject: [Clooz] Clooz & Win2000 > > > > Does Clooz run under Win2000? I'm thinking of upgrading to that OS for >stability but won't if my favorite programs won't run under it! > > > > Sherry > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS, CGL Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

Good question! I just got a new computer which has Windows ME. Unfortunately, I don't have Access yet as I'm waiting for Office XP to arrive in the next week or so. Elizabeth, will Clooz work with Access XP? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: [Clooz] Clooz & Win2000 > Does Clooz run under Win2000? I'm thinking of upgrading to that OS for stability but won't if my favorite programs won't run under it! > > Sherry > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Clooz does not "want to use a single list of people for all databases." Clooz uses the people that you enter into the database. Create a new database and only import the names you want in there. You'll have to export just the people you want from your genealogy program. At 07:51 PM 5/12/01 -0400, Roland Limpert wrote: >I have been using Clooz to enter data from my side of the family and I now >want to start to enter data from my wife's side. I would like to have a >seperate list of people for her side. I have many more names for her side >than mine and I already find it hard to navigate through the 400+ names I >have entered from my side. Therefore I would like to keep her names >seperate from mine for ease of finding people. However, Clooz seems to want >to use a single list of people for all databases. Is there a way to have a >list of people that is unique to each database? > >Thanks > >Roland > > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS, CGL Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

Hello Roland, I just created a second database to separate my lines from my husband's and it seems to be working perfectly--I have two entirely separate People lists and I presume the documents will also be separate. I'm using the 'stand alone' mode--would that make a difference, I wonder? Stella Howlett BC, Canada > From: Roland Limpert [mailto:[email protected]] > > I have been using Clooz to enter data from my side of the > family and I now > want to start to enter data from my wife's side. I would > like to have a > seperate list of people for her side. I have many more > names for her side > than mine and I already find it hard to navigate through > the 400+ names I > have entered from my side. Therefore I would like to > keep her names > seperate from mine for ease of finding people. However, > Clooz seems to want > to use a single list of people for all databases. Is > there a way to have a > list of people that is unique to each database?

I have been using Clooz to enter data from my side of the family and I now want to start to enter data from my wife's side. I would like to have a seperate list of people for her side. I have many more names for her side than mine and I already find it hard to navigate through the 400+ names I have entered from my side. Therefore I would like to keep her names seperate from mine for ease of finding people. However, Clooz seems to want to use a single list of people for all databases. Is there a way to have a list of people that is unique to each database? Thanks Roland

I follow the advice of Elizabeth Shown Mills -- author of "Evidence! : Citation & Analysis for the Family Historian" -- regarding LDS and census film references. She recommends using the FHL in Salt Lake City and the National Archives in Washington, D.C., respectively, as the source repositories. I think her reasoning is that those are the central repositories for these kinds of micropublications. If you referenced the specific Family History Center, say, in Cleveland, OH, those who are inexperienced with LDS records might erroneously think that it is only available in Cleveland. Likewise, I view census microfilms at the local university library, but I always list the source repository as the National Archives and use NARA's micropublication and roll #'s because my local university's numbering system will mean very little to someone searching for the same film at their local library. As for source titles and IDs... for FHL films I use the same title as referenced in the micropublication, e.g., "Death Records, Kalkaska county, Michigan, 1881-1904" with a source ID of "Death 0039." For census films, I again follow Ms. Mills' advice and refer to it in a descriptive way, "1880 U.S. census, Michigan, Kalkaska county, Excelsior township" with the source ID as "MI 0067." Yes, there is redundancy of some information in the titles and IDs, but I'd rather be clear about it than confused. My personal opinion is that the source repository (archive, library, etc.) does not need to be referenced in the source ID, but others may disagree. Kathy Bovenschen <[email protected]> >------------------------------ > >X-Message: #1 >Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 18:02:35 -0700 >From: helen graves <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Clooz] Source ID -- what do you use? > >I am in a quandry and need advice. > >What do you use as a source when you found the >record/info on an LDS >film? > >I have seen: > >FHL Film No. >FHC Film No. >LDS Film No. > >I am inclined to use FHL (Family History Library), >but what is the >correct one to use? > >OK, now what do you use when it was a census film >you read at a Natl >Archives? > >-- Helen >

Yes, Clooz runs under Win2000. At 09:18 AM 5/6/01 -0700, Sherry wrote: >Does Clooz run under Win2000? I'm thinking of upgrading to that OS for >stability but won't if my favorite programs won't run under it! > >Sherry > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB Liz Kelley Kerstens, CGRS, CGL Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com

List- after checking my import again and again, I discovered that it was the names of living individuals that was causing the import to fail. I didn't realize that each field for each individual had to have something within that field. My people who are still living I had just left the death year field blank. Once I went back through and put living in the death year field, or unknown, the import worked succesfully. Anita

Can someone please help? I have created an import list from my geneaology program(TMG) following the directions in the Clooz manual. When I attempt to import I get the message. "PersonID must be numeric. Please correct PersonID for : Johnson Last correct ID was: 7" Does this mean Person ID 8 is wrong? I have tried retyping the entire line, deleting the line, just retyping the numeric. Nothing works! I have checked to make sure there are no spaces and that there are not any hard returns. This is what PersonID 8 looks like 8,Johnson,Doris Loraine,01 January 1917 Any suggestions would be most apprecieated. About ready to delete this entire mess Anita

Does Clooz run under Win2000? I'm thinking of upgrading to that OS for stability but won't if my favorite programs won't run under it! Sherry

Elise, That's what we do except we give them separate numbers - Death 001 and Death 002. But , we do put two documents in the same sleeve. We use the A, B, etc. suffix when we have several related document - for instance, a letter and its envelope. But whatever works for you is fine - what's important is that you do it consistently the same way. Hope this helps, Mike Dickson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elise Morris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: [Clooz] Filing for notebooks > I'm thinking of filing two like documents i.e. (single sheet death certificates for two different > people) back to back in the same plastic sleeve numbering them Death 001A and Death 001B. > > Does anyone see a potential problem in doing this? > > Elise Morris > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >