I just finished today loading and transferring my legacy records to Clooz V2.0.10 and I experienced no errors, hangs etc. I transferred more than 56, 600 individuals and more than 350 sources from legacy. I am working with Legacy 6.0.0.83 and windows XP service pack 2 and all the updates. AOL - - DDavis5310 and Yahoo - - DickDavis60 -----Original Message----- From: Dick Davis [mailto:Dick.Davis@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:19 PM To: 'Clooz-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [Clooz] New Clooz 'final' beta Well, based on the most two recent problem, I presume that we have to wait for a new version before we can work this out with Legacy and Clooz. AOL - - DDavis5310 and Yahoo - - DickDavis60 -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL [mailto:liz@ancestordetective.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:04 PM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Clooz] New Clooz 'final' beta Greetings everyone, If you go to clooz.com, you'll be able to download version 2.0.10 of Clooz. We've worked the kinks out of the GEDCOM, and the Legacy compatibility and I believe everything is working ok now. This version will expire on 30 April 2006. I hope to have the testing wrapped up in the next week and get the program released before the end of April! I still have some writing to do in Help, particularly about the Clooz-Legacy compatibility. Basically, * if you create a new Clooz database and say you want to use Legacy, Clooz will copy all your Legacy people, sources, and repositories into your Clooz database. * if you convert your 1.23 database and say you want to use Legacy, Clooz will NOT bring in your Legacy people, but will bring in the sources and repositories, so there may be duplicates. * if you import a GEDCOM, you can import it into a new Clooz database that doesn't hook up with Legacy, or you can import it into an existing database, and there you can choose to import into a Clooz database and use Legacy. Then, Clooz will bring in your sources and repositories. * if you are using the two programs together, and you add a new person to Clooz, the program will ask if you want to add that person to Legacy. Obviously, if you don't use Clooz with Legacy, none of this applies. If you have any problems with the program, please let me know off this list so I can fix them. This is still a beta test and the same warning applies about adding too much data. You shouldn't start doing heavy data-entry until the final program is released. We're almost there!!! So, enjoy the beta and happy holiday! Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx www.mailfiler.com [DD-5CKT7C]

I'm having a problem with the Source Title Dropdown list, which appears on many input screens (Marriage Record, Birth Record, Death Record, Funeral/Burial Record, Photo, etc.). The dropdown list spans the entire screen width with no vertical scrollbar, but only shows the first 6 sources and does not scroll beyond those 6. I can't select any source other than those 6.

Hi, When I couldn't create a Clooz db linked to Legacy, I created a standalone db and imported my data via gedcom. I entered a few test records and ran a report. When I tried to export the report, the export failed with the following error message: Method 'ISCREditableRTFExportFormatOptions_reserved5' on type 'CrystalDecisions.ReportAppServer.ReportDefModel.EditableRTFExportFormatOptionsClass' from assembly 'CrystalDecisions.ReportAppServer.ReportDefModel, Version=11.0.3300.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=692fbea5521e1304' is overriding a method that has been overridden. Report export fails for multiple formats (.pdf, .doc, etc). Photos are being rendered extremely small in reports - so small they look like dots. Original photos are 560 x 836, 348 x 512 and 332 x 558.

Well, based on the most two recent problem, I presume that we have to wait for a new version before we can work this out with Legacy and Clooz. AOL - - DDavis5310 and Yahoo - - DickDavis60 -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL [mailto:liz@ancestordetective.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:04 PM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Clooz] New Clooz 'final' beta Greetings everyone, If you go to clooz.com, you'll be able to download version 2.0.10 of Clooz. We've worked the kinks out of the GEDCOM, and the Legacy compatibility and I believe everything is working ok now. This version will expire on 30 April 2006. I hope to have the testing wrapped up in the next week and get the program released before the end of April! I still have some writing to do in Help, particularly about the Clooz-Legacy compatibility. Basically, * if you create a new Clooz database and say you want to use Legacy, Clooz will copy all your Legacy people, sources, and repositories into your Clooz database. * if you convert your 1.23 database and say you want to use Legacy, Clooz will NOT bring in your Legacy people, but will bring in the sources and repositories, so there may be duplicates. * if you import a GEDCOM, you can import it into a new Clooz database that doesn't hook up with Legacy, or you can import it into an existing database, and there you can choose to import into a Clooz database and use Legacy. Then, Clooz will bring in your sources and repositories. * if you are using the two programs together, and you add a new person to Clooz, the program will ask if you want to add that person to Legacy. Obviously, if you don't use Clooz with Legacy, none of this applies. If you have any problems with the program, please let me know off this list so I can fix them. This is still a beta test and the same warning applies about adding too much data. You shouldn't start doing heavy data-entry until the final program is released. We're almost there!!! So, enjoy the beta and happy holiday! Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi, When I tried to create a new Clooz database from my Legacy 6 database, I got the following error message during the Source import: Project Name: CLOOZ. Source: CBLDictionary.DictionaryDataAdd Description: The field is too small to accept the amount of data your attempted to add. Try inserting or pasting less data. The program hung at the "Transferring Sources (586)..." screen, with no movement of the progress bar. Is there a limitation on some of the Legacy source field sizes? Thanks, Margaret

Greetings everyone, If you go to clooz.com, you'll be able to download version 2.0.10 of Clooz. We've worked the kinks out of the GEDCOM, and the Legacy compatibility and I believe everything is working ok now. This version will expire on 30 April 2006. I hope to have the testing wrapped up in the next week and get the program released before the end of April! I still have some writing to do in Help, particularly about the Clooz-Legacy compatibility. Basically, * if you create a new Clooz database and say you want to use Legacy, Clooz will copy all your Legacy people, sources, and repositories into your Clooz database. * if you convert your 1.23 database and say you want to use Legacy, Clooz will NOT bring in your Legacy people, but will bring in the sources and repositories, so there may be duplicates. * if you import a GEDCOM, you can import it into a new Clooz database that doesn't hook up with Legacy, or you can import it into an existing database, and there you can choose to import into a Clooz database and use Legacy. Then, Clooz will bring in your sources and repositories. * if you are using the two programs together, and you add a new person to Clooz, the program will ask if you want to add that person to Legacy. Obviously, if you don't use Clooz with Legacy, none of this applies. If you have any problems with the program, please let me know off this list so I can fix them. This is still a beta test and the same warning applies about adding too much data. You shouldn't start doing heavy data-entry until the final program is released. We're almost there!!! So, enjoy the beta and happy holiday! Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

Hi everyone, I was hoping to have a new Clooz beta by now so people could check out the GEDCOM and Legacy functionalities, but my programmers computer died so I'm delayed. I'm hoping it will be up on my website by the end of the week. Stay tuned... Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

At 05:19 PM 4/6/2006, Doug & Cathy SCW wrote: >My computer died and when setting up the new computer, we had to >re-install Clooz (original). My data file was under My Documents, >and preserved. When we installed Clooz, the people wouldn't match >with the program UNTIL we installed, separately, Microsoft Access, >which seemed to enable to interface. Does anyone know why this >would be, and why Clooz would not operate as a stand-alone? Bigger >question: Is there a similar problem with Clooz 2? >Cathy I suspect that you selected to use one of the Clooz Access versions instead of the stand-alone version for 1.23. The stand-alone version of 1.23 does not require you to install Access, but the Access versions do. Version 2 is not written in Access. It's written in Visual Basic.net. There will only be one version. You do not need to have Microsoft Access to use Clooz (and you didn't for 1.23 either, if you installed the stand-alone version). Your database will still be a Microsoft Access database and if you want to view it outside of Clooz, you will need to use Microsoft Access 2003 to do so. Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

Carl, I just went through the Help screens on People and all 7 displayed fine. I had a similiar problem once on a install, when the people list wouldn't have anyone listed when you clicked on "People" in the left hand explorer bar. In my case a uninstall of the Clooz2 program and then a reinstall solved the problem and it worked fine since. I figured something went sour on the initial install. Just remember this is still a beta test program. The report area is still quite restricted and you might not be able to pull out information, the way you now do in Clooz1. At present I still use and maintain my data in Clooz 1. I'm sure Liz will tell us when we can safely start to fully convert our data over to Clooz2 and use it as our day to day working program. I would strongly sugesst for the moment that we use it to get a feel of what is to come and if there are still some bugs, let Liz know. Bob Running Clooz 2.0.7 with WindowsXP Pro with SP2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl" <carle@enter.net> To: <Clooz-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: [Clooz] People > On the old version you clicked on people and all the ones in your data > base > came up. The new version you click on people in Clooz or on the list on > the > left side and the hour glass that shows the file is doing something comes > on > for a few seconds and then goes away but no people come up. Also in Help, > Explore Bar, People, click on link to people and a message comes up saying > Page can not be displayed. Is there something wrong in the program? > I guess everybody else is not having trouble as no messages are coming > thru > about bugs in the program. > > Carl >

At 03:08 PM 4/6/2006, Carl wrote: >Also in Help, >Explore Bar, People, click on link to people and a message comes up saying >Page can not be displayed. Is there something wrong in the program? This problem was found in Help by a tester and has been fixed. We're hoping to put up a new beta setup on Monday. Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

Carl, it's better that you (and others) report bugs to me instead of the list as we're still in beta testing and I need to know the problems so I can fix them. Did you import your previous version? What version of Windows are you using? These are the kind of questions I need answers to when I troubleshoot, which is why it's better to send me the problem than the list. At 03:08 PM 4/6/2006, Carl wrote: >On the old version you clicked on people and all the ones in your data base >came up. The new version you click on people in Clooz or on the list on the >left side and the hour glass that shows the file is doing something comes on >for a few seconds and then goes away but no people come up. Also in Help, >Explore Bar, People, click on link to people and a message comes up saying >Page can not be displayed. Is there something wrong in the program? >I guess everybody else is not having trouble as no messages are coming thru >about bugs in the program. > >Carl > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org

Carl - have you rebooted, done a defrag on your machine? Sometime this helps. Are you using the right database that has your data in it - yes, your people ? In all the testing that I have done with Clooz - not see this one. AOL/AIM -- DDavis5310, Yahoo - - DickDavis60, MSN - - FDDavis53 -----Original Message----- From: Carl [mailto:carle@enter.net] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:08 PM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Clooz] People On the old version you clicked on people and all the ones in your data base came up. The new version you click on people in Clooz or on the list on the left side and the hour glass that shows the file is doing something comes on for a few seconds and then goes away but no people come up. Also in Help, Explore Bar, People, click on link to people and a message comes up saying Page can not be displayed. Is there something wrong in the program? I guess everybody else is not having trouble as no messages are coming thru about bugs in the program. Carl ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

On the old version you clicked on people and all the ones in your data base came up. The new version you click on people in Clooz or on the list on the left side and the hour glass that shows the file is doing something comes on for a few seconds and then goes away but no people come up. Also in Help, Explore Bar, People, click on link to people and a message comes up saying Page can not be displayed. Is there something wrong in the program? I guess everybody else is not having trouble as no messages are coming thru about bugs in the program. Carl

My computer died and when setting up the new computer, we had to re-install Clooz (original). My data file was under My Documents, and preserved. When we installed Clooz, the people wouldn't match with the program UNTIL we installed, separately, Microsoft Access, which seemed to enable to interface. Does anyone know why this would be, and why Clooz would not operate as a stand-alone? Bigger question: Is there a similar problem with Clooz 2? Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <List@rheinlander.org> To: <Clooz-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: [Clooz] People > Carl, > > I just went through the Help screens on People and all 7 displayed fine. > > I had a similiar problem once on a install, when the people list wouldn't > have anyone listed when you clicked on "People" in the left hand explorer > bar. > In my case a uninstall of the Clooz2 program and then a reinstall solved > the > problem and it worked fine since. I figured something went sour on the > initial install. > > Just remember this is still a beta test program. The report area is still > quite restricted and you might not be able to pull out information, the > way > you now do in Clooz1. > > At present I still use and maintain my data in Clooz 1. > > I'm sure Liz will tell us when we can safely start to fully convert our > data > over to Clooz2 and use it as our day to day working program. > > I would strongly sugesst for the moment that we use it to get a feel of > what > is to come and if there are still some bugs, let Liz know. > > Bob > > Running Clooz 2.0.7 with WindowsXP Pro with SP2 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl" <carle@enter.net> > To: <Clooz-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:08 PM > Subject: [Clooz] People > > >> On the old version you clicked on people and all the ones in your data >> base >> came up. The new version you click on people in Clooz or on the list on >> the >> left side and the hour glass that shows the file is doing something comes >> on >> for a few seconds and then goes away but no people come up. Also in Help, >> Explore Bar, People, click on link to people and a message comes up >> saying >> Page can not be displayed. Is there something wrong in the program? >> I guess everybody else is not having trouble as no messages are coming >> thru >> about bugs in the program. >> >> Carl >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I'm using Clooz, v. 1.23 and I have Microsoft Access 2002 on my computer. For business reasons, I need to upgrade to Access 2003. Will this affect Clooz?

Hi Liz, Does this cover the problem I have experienced? When I try to reopen a database which has been created from an imported GEDCOM the program tells me that the file (which is in Legacy format) needs to be updated to Legacy Version 6 and refuses to open. Please don't take this as a criticism; I think it's very brave to put the program out to public beta. Keep up the good work and thanks a lot. I look forward to the next version. Jim "Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL" <liz@ancestordetective.com> wrote: Dottie and all, there is a problem with the GEDCOM, and with linking to Legacy in the beta on the Clooz site. We're working on it and hope to upload another setup this week. Please don't spend any more hours working on these two options before I get another beta up there. I'll announce it here. (Final beta, apparently, doesn't really mean FINAL). At 02:25 AM 4/3/2006, CzechDot@aol.com wrote: >We downloaded OK, but I've got my gedcom and have tried for hours to gedcom >some people into Clooz so I can try out the beta testing model. My gedcom >will only work with Legacy. Is anyone else able to gedcom into >Clooz without >Legacy? There is no other option. > >Dottie Nash > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I am new to Clooz and have been entering information according to the help guidelines. However, I have not been able to find what the "edit lists" function is for. Why would you want to edit the choices of database, census, etc.? Glenda Holmes

Hi Glenda, Welcome to Clooz. The "edit lists" allows you to add those entries that are specific for you, and the option, to correct that entry you didn't mean to make or spell so creatively! For example, I do a lot of research in Norfolk Virginia. If I happened to spell it Norfolke, I can edit that! At the top of the edit List-Cities (for example), there is some additional information about the use of "edit lists." Ron Buchanan -----Original Message----- From: GH250@aol.com [mailto:GH250@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:25 AM To: Clooz-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Clooz] Edit Lists I am new to Clooz and have been entering information according to the help guidelines. However, I have not been able to find what the "edit lists" function is for. Why would you want to edit the choices of database, census, etc.? Glenda Holmes

So glad to see I am not alone!! I have tried to load a Gedcom, a Clooz 1.23 database and my Legacy6 fdb. Keep getting messages that the database needs to be in Legacy 6. Since I have been using Legacy 6 since its release, this was very frustrating. Like the new look and am anxious to be able to try it!! Sandra

Dottie and all, there is a problem with the GEDCOM, and with linking to Legacy in the beta on the Clooz site. We're working on it and hope to upload another setup this week. Please don't spend any more hours working on these two options before I get another beta up there. I'll announce it here. (Final beta, apparently, doesn't really mean FINAL). At 02:25 AM 4/3/2006, CzechDot@aol.com wrote: >We downloaded OK, but I've got my gedcom and have tried for hours to gedcom >some people into Clooz so I can try out the beta testing model. My gedcom >will only work with Legacy. Is anyone else able to gedcom into >Clooz without >Legacy? There is no other option. > >Dottie Nash > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx Liz Kelley Kerstens, CG, CGL @>---- Ancestor Detective, LLC http://www.ancestordetective.com Creator of Clooz, http://www.clooz.com Editor of Genealogical Computing, http://www.ancestry.com Editor of NGS NewsMagazine, http://www.ngsgenealogy.org